Ok, I just received the N910FXXU1COJ3 OTA on my DBT N-910F with all the security updates. Great, but I did notice that the conveniet app manager feature that killed background processes inside Smart Manager is now gone and from the looks of things, there is a new "alternative" ambiguously called App optimization, within the battery section.
Now I for one am getting pretty tired of this inconsistency and constant feature swapping and come here seeking information. Can anyone actually clear things up for me and explain what exactly App optimization means. Will it simply kill the apps background services and if so, why is the minimum timeout 3 days? I also heard that it is more like a disable fuature for the selected apps, meaning no activity whatsoever, like notifications.
Is there any way that i can make use of the convenient "garbage collection" that Smart Manager used to offer, or am I hopelessly stuck dealing with Samsung`s ADD?
Thanks, any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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I think it is something like Doze or Greenify
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Sry I`m on mobile and thats the best i could do, plus i can`t post links
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Sry I`m on mobile and thats the best i could do, plus i can`t post links
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Ok that's no good.
Go to play store and install Tapatalk and then you can upload screenshots directly to here from Tapatalk app like this image.
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Ok. I have a call recorder. It just happens to stop working after awhile. I went to app optimazation and disabled it. Does that mean now that my Call Recorder app doesn't apply to these rules and should never shut off or stop working if I disabled it for that app. It's so annoying because all of sudden your looking and your call isn't being recorded. I have to open the app...then it works again. Am I using the app optimazation option improperly?
When I bought the pro version; a message appeared explaining to disable app optimazation for the app so it continuously works. Is this right? And I'm just dealing with an app problem or I'm I not using this feature properly. I want my call recorder to always be working. [email protected]
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App Optimization is Doze mode, that simple
You have to disable App Optimization for apps that should always run in background or be accessible without opening the app itself like Tesla Unread, Torchie, some reminder apps an some e-mail apps. In my expirience if an app is being optimized it will not show any notifications and such until "acitivized" by opening the app itself.
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You have to disable App Optimization for apps that should always run in background or be accessible without opening the app itself like Tesla Unread, Torchie, some reminder apps an some e-mail apps. In my expirience if an app is being optimized it will not show any notifications and such until "acitivized" by opening the app itself.
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how do you actually use it?
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how do you actually use it?
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Apps that I don't need running in background and have used more battery than I think they should when in background are set to "Always power saving". Exaples: 9GAG. Previously I used Greenify for these apps.
Apps that need to stay active at all times are set to "Disable for". Examples: Reminders, Tesla Unread.
Most of other apps are set to "Automatically optimising".
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This.
This feature can also be found on aosp based roms like cm13.
i cant find some apps in the optimization list (like whatsapp) and messages comes really slowly !
Any suggestions?
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Just few quick tips that will help you get amazing results:
1. get the app called Autostarts from the market
2. in the app kill after reboot google maps, talk and social hub(you can find it on scond line in the application from the possible options.
3. Get Titanium
freeze wifi sharing manager and wifi manager.
You are done
Enjoy!
Have you tried dl'ing anything from the market after doing this? Because in the help section it says you might not be able to dl anything from it if you disable Google Talk.
Why not just log out from Google Talk instead?
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O-o-ps!
I just realized that I've madeb a mistake:
I was meaning google voice but not google talk.
SORRY!
Elaborate on point 3 please.
What is wifi sharing manager and wifi manager?
You can stop most, but not all services by going to Settings, Applications, Running...
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You can stop most, but not all services by going to Settings, Applications, Running...
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I think the point is to have it done automatically every time.
Exactly! You can stop them manually but they will reappear again. With the program mentioned above you can do it for good - google maps, google voice will not longer drain the battery without need. Tiatanium will take care for wifi sharing manager and wifi manager - yet another big, big battery drainer that won't affect the phone in any way
Thanks for the tip. I got the program autostarts but I am not able to manually disable google map and voice. I just see several lines of google services framework. Is this it?
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Time to do some testing. I already had autostarts on another recommendation, but was lost on what to do with it.
I have found that using a very (very) minimal homescreen on a black background, using a dark profile for all apps that have the option, and turning wifi off when not needed, I can get at least 2 and a half days out of one charge with light use.
Going to see if this impacts my numbers any. Thanks!
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That is what i see. I want to see which item you have crossed out/disabled.
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Keep in mind, phone has to be rooted for app to work.
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That is what i see. I want to see which item you have crossed out/disabled.
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It says which in the OP...
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The trick of my recommendation is that the phone is folling in deep sleep when not in use and by that way you can almost double the battery life, of course if not in constant use. To be sure that you are doing alright go get frkm tne market Battery monitor widget, install the widget and if you are running at about 50mA in sleep mode you are just fine.
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found quite a number of Autostarts, but didn't see the one mentioned.
Hi xda users,
I've got a big problem here, and to simply explain it, I'll do it in pictures:
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things I've tried to use to solve this data leak:
- disabling auto sync
- restricting background data on my wifi router
- disable location via mobile network.
and those above didn't help. the consumption keeps rising as i currently write this... any help please?
EDIT: SOLVED!
i went to settings - apps - running
i killed the MEDIA service, then went to cached apps (the top left button on the same screen) and killed MEDIA. the wifi up and down icon stopped instantly.
Turns out, the Downloads app is the one causing the trouble. So by force closing it through its app info, you're stopping this hog.
5 minutes later it showed up again, and i force closed it again.... still testing. maybe greenify it?
EDIT2: greenified and solved:
I can even go to downloads app, and still no download loop
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A few of us have noticed the same problem. My original thread here, and another person describing the same symptoms. No real answers yet.
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A few of us have noticed the same problem. My original thread here, and another person describing the same symptoms. No real answers yet.
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thanks for the fast reply!
i've removed my google account, and Google Services are STILL downloading!
what the hell is happening??
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thanks for the fast reply!
i've removed my google account, and Google Services are STILL downloading!
what the hell is happening??
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SOLVED!
i went to settings - apps - running
i killed all google related services and the MEDIA service, then went to cached apps (the top left button on the same screen) and killed google play services, also MEDIA. the wifi up and down icon stopped instantly.
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the solution was temporary until i greenified the culprit.
solved in under an hour
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Hey this problem is driving me nuts. Can u explain how you greenieifed it? I've bought the donate version and when I try and greenjfy it by selecting the running service from 'apps' it just tries to greenify the 'settings' which obviously doesn't work.
Thanks!
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Hey this problem is driving me nuts. Can u explain how you greenieifed it? I've bought the donate version and when I try and greenjfy it by selecting the running service from 'apps' it just tries to greenify the 'settings' which obviously doesn't work.
Thanks!
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search for the apps from the list from the greenify app itself.
or click on the search button and launch "downloads" app then greenify that
The problem also is related to the playstore app on android 4.2.2 which causes that loop. i manually updated the playstore and the problem is gone even without greenify
i don't have a link right now, but the thread related to this is somewhere in the Q&A forum (if I'm right)
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Thanks Riro I used the greenify downloads which seems to work for now. Ill look into a more permanent fix over the weekend. Legend
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I just disabled "Download" And "Download Manager".
Are these essential or anything?
Google Messenger v.1.0123 (Black Out & Clear) ​
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Stay in touch with family and friends . Google Messenger is a messaging application that allows you to send and receive SMS and MMS messages to any phone. You can also send group text and your pictures , videos and even favorite audio messages to your contacts .
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283828
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283828
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So better with the source
How to edit color text share apktool boss
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how to install?
I cant seem to install apk since my device already had google messenger installed. So how would i uninstall the stock messenger?
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I cant seem to install apk since my device already had google messenger installed. So how would i uninstall the stock messenger?
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You need to uninstall the original apk (root required if it's installed as a system app).
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You need to uninstall the original apk (root required if it's installed as a system app).
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Yes I am rooted and running a custom 5.0 ROM. How do I go about uninstalling the default app. Btw the app was pre-installed with the ROM.
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Yes I am rooted and running a custom 5.0 ROM. How do I go about uninstalling the default app. Btw the app was pre-installed with the ROM.
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There's a tons of tools to uninstall system apps like Titanium backup. Or you can simply remove the apk and related files with a file manager.
Looks really nice(clear). Have this weird background issue though when going into conversations.
If you scroll the convo it disappears to clear background, but still lol
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Blackout is nice to, but a lot of screen flashing when entering and exiting conversations, and noticeable lag when trying to scroll through convo.
Great so far tho.
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Looks really nice(clear). Have this weird background issue though when going into conversations.
If you scroll the convo it disappears to clear background, but still lol
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This is nice but I have this strange problem too
Update v30 in playstore
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Very nice. Although it goes bat crazy when opening a big message thread then fc but it's progress...
Addressing MMS:
It fails to retrieve but it seems like it sends pictures just fine. I have sent pictures to myself but have to change messaging apps to retrieve them. Occasionally, it will give me an APN error of some sort.
Guys go to the link I posted on the first page (2nd post of this thread). That's the source of this app. It belongs to Team BlackOut. If you want to follow the actual development of this app, and not report bugs to some random person just sharing the app who hasn't replied back to this thread once, go there. There's probably newer versions since this OP posted this anyways.
I bought them for almost two months and overall satisfied with everything except one thing - push notification issue. This is apply to all apps that owner need to be notified such as LINE, WhatsApp or even Gmail. It would happen around 1-3 minutes after your phone standby. Delay could be from 5 minutes to 15 minutes and more. No "Power saving" and "Wifi sleep" enabled. This was happen a much less when I was with 4..5.2.5A rom and much more when I upgraded to 4.5.2.7A. You could see messages only if you open those app manually most of the times. It was ridiculous
Here are solutions I tried and non of them work so far.
1. Went to Security --> Permissions --> Set "LINE" / "Google Services Framework" / "Google Account Manage" as auto restart.
2. above + Went to Security --> Power Saving --> Set "LINE" available to run while idle. Two setting simultaneously and still not work.
3. above two + lock "LINE" application to work on background. Three combination still doesn't ring a bell.
4. Roll back to 4.5.2.4A / 4.5.2.2A / 4.5.2.1A and still the same. (4.5.2.5A has been merged by Meizu developer so non available for download at the time.)
5. Try install almost every Launcher, every notification apps and even "push notification fixer" (for non-root) and still the same.
Do you have any idea or recommendation for a custom rom or a custom fix for this issue?
Hi.
I have just the same issue with recently bought Meizu M2 mini: Hangouts, Skype, Gmail - no notifications.... It's really frustrating
I have never had notification problems with M2 and MX5, this is what I do:
Security App, permission, Launch. Here every app to notify. Google stuff also.
Security app, powersaving. The same
Also this apps blocked in the multitask
Settings, wifi, advanced, wifi sleep disabled
Lock the app in ram via multitasking bar, this will not let the app to turn off.
anyone find a solution to this?
Hi
I found the solution 100% working for me. Just enter in security app/power/settings and disable the option " disable Linked Launch" thats all. Enjoy!
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hi
i found the solution 100% working for me. Just enter in security app/power/settings and disable the option " disable linked launch" thats all. Enjoy!
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lol you're my last hope if it works i'll make you a little donations
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lol you're my last hope if it works i'll make you a little donations
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Hehe look my screenshots and good luck [emoji6]
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Hehe look my screenshots and good luck [emoji6] View attachment 3703154
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same settings same apps plus added them in battery, more modes, standby still doesn't work 5.1.4.0 stable
I have the same version in my MX4 and this configuration and I receive all notifications of WhatsApp try reboot
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I had the same problem and solved it by
1. un checking 'disable linked launched'
2. Allowing all apps in security/power/app management
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Hi
I found the solution 100% working for me. Just enter in security app/power/settings and disable the option " disable Linked Launch" thats all. Enjoy!
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Thank you, it was when I tried
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Thank you, I've done it
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Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
Try this go into settings and search optimize battery usage, and then press optimize battery usage listed. You have the options to see what is not optimize battery usage or all click all on top left and see If maps is toggled on. If so toggle off.
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Hi guys, is anyone here still using Google maps v6?
It is still working fine, except that on this phone (s10+ Exynos) the app gets killed when running in the background.
At first i believed it to be because i had added the app to the sleep list. I had done that because the system keeps saying the app is eating up battery, even when not running.
So I removed the app from the sleep list, but it keeps getting killed.
How can i make sure that an app never gets killed when running in the background?
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I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
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I have those settings now, and removed the app from the sleeping apps (again). I'm afraid the system will put it back on the 'sleep' list again because it uses a lot of battery in the background (I get regular warnings about that).
Anyone have an idea why this app would be so active while not even used?
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I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
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I have the same settings as you have.
What happens is that i get warnings about the old apps eating battery. I guess i then put it to sleep without noticing.
I restarted my phone, did NOT start mapsD, but its still doing something on the background.
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It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
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It's a modded maps correct? It eats alot battery not even sure it's worth it. What use it ?
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It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
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It's v6 of Google Maps. It had a much simpler interface, and easier to use when looking for alternative routes.
And it doesn't have all that commercial baggage of the new version, which is way slower too btw.
The only thing is, why does it use battery when not even started....
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Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
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Being it's an old version I would think you downloaded it from the net and not the play store. Maybe it has hidden spyware etc?
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I actually got it here from XDA, posted by a senior member.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566159