Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
Yeah this needs to be fixed
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Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
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It's because you aren't aware of what you are leaving on. Not only wifi, NFC, Bluetooth but also applications that are memory hogs that maybe running in the background not allowing your tablet to go into deep sleep. Don't blame the tablet. Also I don't know if you remember this but you paid $250 dollars tops for this tablet. Why are you complaining?!
Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
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Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
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More likely about the person leaving it there. Take the ten seconds to power it off.
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May have paid 200 for the nexus but paid 500 for the 7.7 and had the same problem with it. Sold it to buy the nexus... thought newer software might mean better power management... guess not... still behind the iPad in that department. Ridiculous to have to disable and shut off stuff everytime your not using it... guess its back to the old airplane mode toggle widget... maybe android version. 5 will solve this.
Mine can last about a week (extrapolating from power stats, of course; I'm not crazy enough to just do that). Phone's actually being more annoying in this respect; I have to figure it out and possibly change kernel.
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I really can't see the point of why wanting something to hold a charge for 5 days without use is an issue!
I use my phone and my Nexus 7 everyday and charge it at night .
Why pay for an item and not use it?
I don't buy the argument that you paid just 200 dollars so you should STFU. Yes, the standby time is really crappy.
I have found a solution for it - it's called Llama. It is similar to Tasker, but free. I have set up a profile - 'Turn airplane mode on 1min after screen turns off. And turn airplane mode off when screen turns on'. So you don't have to remember to turn airplane mode on/off yourself every time you put the tablet on standby.
With this app and setting, my tablet loses 5-6% in 1 day.
Its not that I don't pick it up but once every 5 days.... for example it probably had around 30 percent 15 hours ago when I got up and I used it for 15 minutes.... well when I picked it up tonight to use it to Delve into a chapter of World War Z I'm reading it had 11 percent left... I knew I would have to deal with it plugged in while I was reading... I was pissed and decided to post since this happens practically on a weekly basis. .... Anyway I'm over it and thanks for the heads up on that llama app.Verrjiggy. I will give it a shot
My guess is something is continuining to run and use resources in the background even if the screen is off.
Go into Settings, WiFi, Advanced and make sure wifi is turned off when the screen goes off.
Install Auto Airplane Mode
Install CPUSpy and see whether it goes into deep sleep when you're not using it.
HTH
It seems simple enough to just plug it in to charge every day or two.:laugh:
I find a couple days of use great battery time and don't mind charging mine every other night.Shut down the wifi/bluetooth ect,stop auto updates and sync manually and you can probably see 5 days of coffee table use.
People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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While it has a bit to do with apps, the way Android functions is also to blame. I am a big time Google fanboy. So please don't give me fanboy-istic arguments and ask me to get an iPad. Overlooking shortcomings of Android is not the best stand to take. Or saying - 'Hey, that's how Android is!'
Turning off wireless is definitely a solution (see my post above on this thread), but it is not ideal.
More so, if you are blaming apps, blame Google's own apps also. Cos they keep refreshing all the time as well.
I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
For your last point as to why people leave their devices sitting around. Well, different people use their devices differently. I just use the tablet for a couple of hours in the evening. Vacation, travel for work, blah blah blah. There can be a thousand reasons. You can't fault them cos they don't use their tablets.
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I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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I could see it using 2% in 24 hours with wifi off & nothing syncing, overnight mine uses about 2-3% in 8 hours with wifi on & stuff still syncing in the background.
If you didn't know, if you go to Settings - wifi - Advanced there is an option to be able to turn off wifi while in sleep mode. It works awesome and on a whole battery with average use and little gaming, I get about 4 days charge. I'm also running Paranoid Android with Trinity kernel.
O.P. Seriously? Put your damn tablet on your charger every other day while you sleep if you need it to last longer than 4 days. Who gives a **** if an ipad has an extra days battery life, it wouldn't last 5 days if someone picked it up and actually used it instead of it being a fancy paper weight.
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I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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To be honest; I found it hard to believe myself but I kept an eye on it for several nights and I saw the same results. If I have a strong battery; I'm not complaining!!
Y'all realize the iPad 3 battery is almost 3 times larger than the n7s? The iPad 2 batt is over one and a half times larger. So really what did you expect? GTFO.
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There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
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IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
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Alarm clock
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Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
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As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
Gizmodo and MobileCrunch have pretty much bashed the battery life to make it sound like if its not on the charger, it will die in a matter of an hour or three. For the people who got one from the I/O or other means. What do you get from the phone during a normal days usage? If its that bad, have you guys use SetCPU/Locale/App Killers etc? Thanks.
With light to moderate use, it lasts through the day. A bit worse than Nexus One in that respect, but not too bad.
Agree with sergey.povzner.
Android central had a great review on this. I have heard a mixed bag of battery life. Some sounded very good some didn't. But it's the most power smartphone out there so additional drain is expected.
http://www.androidcentral.com/review-sprint-htc-evo-4g-android-smartphone
It not as good as my n1 but its close. It gets a lot better with custom roms without sense.
Uptime 10:08:35
Awake time 1:46
I had it plugged into computer for about 25 mins to transfer a movie.
I have 80% battery left.
No bluetooth, no GPS, no WIFI.
I don't have anything extra except gmail and another account frequently syncing. I get 4-5 hours of browsing and email with 4g on or off, wifi off, gps off. Standby time doesn't seem to have significant effect though I'm sure it would be measurable if you left it in standby for a day. Adequate to get me though a day, but I hardly use voice.
What if you are watching full length movie on HTC Evo, how long will the battery last (especially if I put it on airplane mode)?
I am planning to switch from from Xperia X10i to HTC Evo. My x10 has the usual battery drain problem but I have controlled it with task killer. However, I am yet to run a full movie on it. If x10's battery life has more survival time (with task killer on it of course) then HTC Evo then I might think twice.
Also can the 'task killer' improve HTC Evo's battery life?
Does anyone know if the Evo uses the HTC Touch Pro size battery like the Hero?
If so then I've already got an external charger and three extra batteries!
Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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Honestly if anyone is that worried about battery life get another battery as a backup. Its been said many times on these forums that a HTC Touch Pro 2 and also a HTC Hero all use the same batteries as the EVO. (Confirmed). You can pick them up on ebay for around 7 or 8$. Which is pretty cheap! Nothing better than having an extra juice pack laying around waiting to be used! Hope this helps somewhat
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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LOL we posted at the same time, thanks for answering my question! I'll keep a backup in my glove box and one in my back pocket. This method worked great with my Hero.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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Great minds think a like. Ya man wont get to hot in that glove box either. Its always nice to have a little something extra especially when we will be showing this bad boy off 24/7 to anyone that wants to see it! Cant wait to "Officially" get mine lol. Im about 17 hrs and 3 minutes form my appt.
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i'm so excited, wish I had an extra battery though, it'd be nice
8hrs 15min till i get mine!
Gotta say this thing blows my old Moment's battery out of the water... 4.5 hours hard and heavy use... 60% left - no 4G coverage area (but it was left on by accident - ooops) and no video watching, but heavy text, email, and facebook/twitter activity.
I ordered the extended slim battery from seidio.com. 1750 vs 1500. Should give a bit more in the long run.
Its been decent for me though. Just dont jack up your brightness, keep it on auto.
Wifi kills my battery. The signal never settles even though the coverage should be good all over my house.
You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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You want to go into advanced wifi settings and change WiFi sleep policy to never otherwise your phone will shut off WiFi after 15 mins of screen being off and you'll be using 3g which will use a lot more battery.
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Its already set to never.
Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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Mybattery was pretty terrible. Lose 10% per 40 minutes on standby mode alone. After messing around with it for a while I discovered the culprit was the location services. I turned them off and now I lose about 2% per hour on standby.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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I'm curious, how exactly do you go about turning off the location services? Unless it's included with the GPS tab of the settings, I haven't been able to find such an option on my brother's Hero.
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It's under settings , location and then location setting. This does not disable the 911 location which is good.
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
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My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
opie2l said:
I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
trojandnc said:
This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
trojandnc said:
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
trojandnc said:
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
No joda!
Sent from my EVO!
very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
make sure you are signed out of googletalk !!
I've tried to resolve each issue individually and have done my best to see if I could make this one work but5 this is getting ridiculous. Yesterday was the last straw.
Friday I had problems with the gps. It showed me about 3 blocks from where I really was and could not figure out what direction I was traveling. At one point it actually showed that I was going in the opposite direction I was really driving. I decided to give it another shot yesterday on a drive down to the keys. I was on US1 in a convertible with the top down, clear view of the sky and driving about 60mph. The gps using both Maps and ATT navigator showed me about 300 or 400 yards off the road and in the freakin water!!!!
And the GPS kept losing a lock on the sats.
Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
Add that to my wifi disconnect/reconnect issues and the communication error when checking for software updates (tried through wifi and through 4G and same thing on both) and I think I'm going to take advantage of the exchange period and get a new phone next week. This is ridiculous.
Juice defender is part of your problem.
butter and jelly please...
Yes screw juice defender!
You have a defective phone, go get another S III.
lol....now this morning it's not even being recognized by my PC. I connected it so I could take some pictures I took last night off of it and it's not even being recognized.
Yeah you got a lemon just take the phone back to at&t if you got it from a company owned store and your within your 30 days then they will just swap it out for you if you got it from a 3rd party like a best buy or a amazon then obviously you would follow their return and exchange policy, oh and ditch juice defender it doesn't work well with Ics at all do a search on the topic and you will see ( gingerbread yes, Ics its a no go).
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Seeing that you'd probably be factory resetting before returning I'd do that and just see if the issues continue. If so then return promptly. It could be any number of apps screwing with battery life and who knows juice def could be messing with GPS and wifi. Worth a shot. Factory reset and try some out without any apps added
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BonesHopkins said:
I've tried to resolve each issue individually and have done my best to see if I could make this one work but5 this is getting ridiculous. Yesterday was the last straw.
Friday I had problems with the gps. It showed me about 3 blocks from where I really was and could not figure out what direction I was traveling. At one point it actually showed that I was going in the opposite direction I was really driving. I decided to give it another shot yesterday on a drive down to the keys. I was on US1 in a convertible with the top down, clear view of the sky and driving about 60mph. The gps using both Maps and ATT navigator showed me about 300 or 400 yards off the road and in the freakin water!!!!
And the GPS kept getting a losing a lock on the sats.
Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
Add that to my wifi disconnect/reconnect issues and the communication error when checking for software updates (tried through wifi and through 4G and same thing on both) and I think I'm going to take advantage of the exchange period and get a new phone next week. This is ridiculous.
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seeing how the majority of people arent having these issues at all id say its safe to say you just have a defective phone so you should just exchange it for a new one...
morpheus928 said:
Yeah you got a lemon just take the phone back to at&t if you got it from a company owned store and your within your 30 days then they will just swap it out for you if you got it from a 3rd party like a best buy or a amazon then obviously you would follow their return and exchange policy, oh and ditch juice defender it doesn't work well with Ics at all do a search on the topic and you will see ( gingerbread yes, Ics its a no go).
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I bought it through ATT customer service by phone. I had an online chat with a tech last week about the battery and wifi issues and he suggested I take it to a store and they would exchange it for me. I tried to fix the issues so I wouldn't have to do that but now after the gps issue and last night's 60% in 3 hour while asleep problem, it's going back. Hopefully the store will exchange it without any problem.
I have Juice Defender Ultimate and Power Save Mode on and use my navigation almost every day and never had any issues. Sounds like a defective phone.
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I really think those are apps that are past their prime. I wouldn't put any of that junk on a new phone.
I've had the wifi connect/disconnect issue a lot. Not sure if I should return or wait for a software update.
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woody296 said:
I really think those are apps that are past their prime. I wouldn't put any of that junk on a new phone.
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I thought the same but if you're a smartphone power user and want a full days use WITH 4 to 5 hours of screen time you need Juice Defender. I'm always on the go and started to leave the iPad at home because this phone with the right power saving apps can take the distance. I couldn't even do that with my Galaxy Note. Samsung S3 does.
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Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
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I've had some bad battery days. Get something like SystemPanel that will let you see the historical cpu usage of system processes. I'll bet you a dollar that gsiff_daemon is running amok and killing your battery. A reboot will fix it but it will probably come back. I haven't found the pattern yet but I have noticed that the phone gets very warm, so I'm thinking that it may be somehow related to my signal strength.
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I tried factory reset and wipe cache but it didnt work. pls help
I had the same issue for a while.
Setting Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to Never fixed it for me.
Maybe it needs to go to gym before bedtime and don't give it coffee or energi drinks after 4pm. And don't use sleep tablets because it will make it worse after some months.
And give no junkie food to it.
Trust me it will work.
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robert_3EC said:
I had the same issue for a while.
Setting Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to Never fixed it for me.
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its not work for me. still 0s deep sleep :crying:
This device / samsung software / Android - Just don't want to work together, I have used over 2weeks to narrow down this problem to try fix this. And nothing works, even when you think it's working it will just take a day/next charge/next restart and it will "**** up" again.
My best advice is to try live with it, cause unless android do something theres nothing we can do. And its a huge deal on the whole android phone market. Unless you are ready to get a new ROM... I think that is the only way to fix this.
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its not work for me. still 0s deep sleep :crying:
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Do you have the latest software updates?
If you don't find a solution, return it if you still can. Or you could try using a custom ROM, but that might or might not work and you're also going to void your warranty.
robert_3EC said:
Do you have the latest software updates?
If you don't find a solution, return it if you still can. Or you could try using a custom ROM, but that might or might not work and you're also going to void your warranty.
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i have solution now
1 - settings -> device -> sound. close all sounds ( touch, screen lock, haptic feedback, pen, dialing..) if closed: open all sound. after close all again.
2 - settings -> airplanemode on
3 - power off
4 - remove battery. 1 min after attack battery.
5 - power on and wait 10mins
6 - airplanemode off
7 - open wakelock detector and its done. deep sleep working (Sorry for my english.)
Not to be a negativ douch. But give it a day and you will most likely be back to square one.., Maybe 2... l have done countless things like this, it will work for a day and next day all will be back to the same. Sorry to say!
.....battery usage posts are like Jehovah's Witnesses and battery life computation is like oral 53x, it depends @ which end you find yourself.
@OP
I guess some would be happy to get your stats, I'll excuse myself first on that list. You lost 7% battery within 5 and smth hours. THAT IS GREAT! no issue whatsoever . I would gladly report that my device is humming away 4~7% each hour, no matter what (wifi vs 4G, great vs good GSM reception, cache flush, etc). Deep sleep apps and the other shenanigans are not relevant at the end of the day.
Android is a mobile OS that is open, aka you can side load a ton of crap on it. The little imaginary sandboxes are quite open to any app and merciful enough to tolerate any app get go postal on power like a Tasmanian devil. Quite the opposite of other OSes.
Still, if you do the math, even 1% hour is huge, compared to what ARM/qualcomm/sammy advertises about the so-called improvements. My old SGS2 had a median of 0.7~1% per hour while screen off. That was a good 7% over a 8hrs overnight, 1900 mAh battery ( almost identical sync accounts on both device, minus FB now) . This, scaled to the 3200 SGN3's battery, is almost 4 percent. Well, the only difference (while sleeping) between the two devices is the CPU and OS version. So, either the new CPU architecture is less power efficient or the OS is more hungry. That's only a part of the story. The other story there are a lot of sensors that get monitored also, regardless of screen off or not, you know Life Companion!.
My advice would be to get over it, no matter what will you do, battery life will be as good as our perception is about it . It is great out of the box, with time and apps installed, it decreases more and more
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zipn said:
Not to be a negativ douch. But give it a day and you will most likely be back to square one.., Maybe 2... l have done countless things like this, it will work for a day and next day all will be back to the same. Sorry to say!
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you are right. it doesn't work. it work 3 hours and back to the same.
restart phone it work and after few hours doesnt work. my phone always working 250mhz.