My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
FYI - All the same apps,widgets, and settings
**UPDATE**
Doing a factory reset fixed the problem for me!!
opie2l said:
My battery made it to 1:00 o'clock today with the new 2.2 update that i did last night. It normally lasts till 11 - 12 at night. Whats up with that?
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Strange, I'm sitting at 75% after 5 hours off the charger and using it for moderate text usage (probably less than 80 messages today). Usually around this time it's sitting closer to 60%.
i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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i have the .3 update and went from about 24 hours to about 8-10 hours. Battery life cut in half. My friend who has .3 is having same issue too. So much for increasing battery life.
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Wow. Have you searched the forum to see if anyone else has the same issue? If not I hope it's not an isolated incident. Then again if it's isolated maybe you can get support on it better...? Good luck finding a solution.
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
yeah some people are reporting bad battery life after update. most people i know are on .3. don't know if .6 fixes this hopefully we get update soon
I did a test last night. Dropped 13% between 1130 and 3:30am With wifi on (got up cause of baby), then only 10% between 330 and 8am with wifi off. So a drop of only 23% overnight.
That's with one exchange account, one gmail account (both syncing as items arrive), htc news set to not sync, but newsdesk and feedr both syncing. Facebook for htc set to sync contacts only.
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I had the same issue on all 2.2 ROMs I tried.. i am now going through the apps one at a time to see which one is the issue.
right now I am 7 hours in and sitting at 75% very light use ( read about 7 emails, 5 new articles and little to no Web surfing). installed 10s so far other than the standard with Fresh latest ROM that is.
I've actually had very good battery life, I'm running the .3 release. Battery life for me has been very comparable to running Baked Snack 9.6, with its underclocking/undervolting power save features. Moderate use of the phone for 8 hours (wifi, browsing websites here and there, one navigation route, texting, bunch of short phone calls, playing some games), my battery was around 65 or so, same as I had before for similar usage.
I did do a full wipe though, and haven't calibrated my battery since updating.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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I am just stating a observation on my part. And i know all the little tricks of how to get better battery life. But like i said, before the update i was getting a full day of battery and now after the update i am getting half. With the same settings and the usage on my part.
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maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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Yeah, i already went through all the settings last night.
Aridon said:
You gave us zero information to help you. So thus, you will not get any help.
There are about a billion threads on here about battery life and how to tweak it. When you flashed 2.2 you will need to do those steps again.
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This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
You should send that rant to HTC and Sprint... I think we all stand behind you on that one.
there are lots of reasons a battery might not last. there are way to many tweaks out there which is why you have to do it yourself.
First set the phone up like you normally have it and test the battery life. if you can live with it your good. if not start looking at the settings. Read the tweaks but don't just take them as golden as everyone is different and uses their phone different. Ask yourself if you real need that setting. (I like my screen time out at 2 min. do I need it NO 1 min is fine). When done with the settings move to the apps. load the flat ROM no apps and run for a hour and track your battery life. then add the apps 1 at a time or in small groups and let run an hour and track. there are was if find what apps are using the CPU or Battery but many do this normally and yet don't effect the battery much. Only way i have found is old school add them one at a time. When you find a bad one decide if you need it or can find a replacement.
I am done with Sense as Launcher Pro Plus is awesome and now with the only Widget I was missing (Calendar). Once I done going through my app list I will create a new thread in General to list the bad application I found unless someone else has or does before I done that is.
From what I have gathered from using .3 that apps auto sync/update on their own now with "always on mobile data" turned off. if you use advanced task killer, do a kill of all apps then turn the screen off. If you wait for a few minutes and turn the screen back on you will notice that apps like news, messages, Twitter, Facebook clock, weather and others will be active. From what I gather the decrease in battery life is from apps like those will send/receive data on 2.2 while on 2.1 apps would not update/sync until you manually refreshed or opened the app, as long as you didn't have "always on mobile data" enabled.
Edit: this reason is why I uninstalled fring. Just too bad I cannot uninstalled qik.
trojandnc said:
This is not directed at you personally, but at the words you chose to use:
I am sick and tired of "tweaks and settings and cutting things off." I used them and got over 30 hours on both DamageControl and Fresh.
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It is a mini-computer. You don't use it like a "phone" anymore. You shouldn't expect more than 15-20 hours on it. Do you get angry when your laptop runs out of life after 5-6 hours? If you don't want to do tweaks, then don't. Keep a micro-USB at your desk at work and charge it there. I, myself, enjoy rooting so I don't mind tweaking it. I also get 30 hours of life on it due to this. If you don't like to do that, you get what you put into it.
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I paid Sprint/HTC good money for this awesome phone (and am committed to pay them a whole lot more over the course of the next 22 months).
While I can understand the 4G thing, why should I have to cut off Data-WiFi-Bluetooth, power down the CPU, not use it a lot in order to get... in short, drive it like a Toyota Prius when then phone is billed as a Maserati? Why should I have to try out this app and that app(Overclock widget, SetCPU, System Manager, Task Killer, Autostarts etc which all use battery too) in order to get the phone to do what it should have done on June 4, 2010?
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Again, you have unrealistic expectations for a smart phone it seems. All I have is Set CPU running on my phone with Fresh 3.0.1 and works just fine. I still use my phone like a "Maserati", it just lowers the CPU when the screen is powered off. That is like saying you want your car to idle when you get home at night until the next morning. It doesn't change how you drive it, just how you store it in the garage.
trojandnc said:
Most of the battery draining apps and widgets come pre-loaded with sense (i.e. the Favorite widget, Friendstream etc). Why should I have to resort to rooting my phone or not using it in order to get the thing to last all day?
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You don't have to use them though. You can remove friendstream and go with either the twitter or FB update app or go without either and just check facebook like anyone else. As far as favorites go, you don't have to use that either. You can just make shortcuts to each person's phone number on that same screen if you think that is sucking all your battery life. There are always other options or fixes, but again you expect the phone to come out of the box perfect without any customization. You are getting away from what Android really is. Something tells me the Iphone would have been more your liking since it is built around lack of true customization. This isn't a rip, but just saying if you want cookie cutter phone reliability, it is hard to beat Apple. If you want the ability to tinker with the phone, the power to change things, and the power to make your phone yours, then that is more Android.
trojandnc said:
I'm keeping my EVO cause I love the device, but maybe Sprint/HTC need a little of the medicine that Jobs/Apple is getting in the form of lawsuits due to over-promising/under-delivering.
/off_my_soap_box
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I can understand your frustration, but nothing was ever promised to us on purchase. I don't remember anywhere seeing something saying the battery would last 30+ hours out of the box. Apple had an actual structural issue with their phone, that is why they had the lawsuits and PR nightmare. This is just the phone doing what most would probably expect(at least anyone who had a G1 or Hero or any of the earlier Android phones). You love the device enough to keep it even with your frustration, something tells me it works quite well for you. But I have yet to see any over-promising/under-delivering on the Evo myself.
And no, I don't work for Sprint or HTC. And no offense meant to you as a person, just I didn't understand your motives on your frustration. Guess we will have different opinions on the Evo so far.
diomark said:
maybe because some of the htc sync stuff that you might have disabled before re-enabled.
Check that.
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I had the same battery problem after updating to 2.2. After 3 hours my battery was at 50%. Normally it'd be at 50% after 9 to 10 hours of usage.
I did find that some settings had been reset. Once I turned off all the crap syncing, gtalk logging in, Sprint Zone, etc my battery usage has seemed to flatten out.
I made it an hour and only dropped 2% which is much more like it. This is all with very little usage going on.
Buy a new battery! Best solution!
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very funny just pluged my phone in using flipz newest after 19 hours
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Hi! I am not sure if this exactly has been posted already, or if it's common knowledge and I am just slow lol, but the last couple days I found out how to maximize the battery life on my phone by (imho) a huge amount. And I wanted to share with the community.
So before I did this, I'd generally get maybe six to eight hours of uptime before the battery was critically low. This was really frustrating because by the time I got home from work my phone would be almost dead. So I'd charge it in my car for a little bit, but then when I went out I'd have to turn off Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, brightness all the way down etc. just to have enough battery to survive the night.
But now I managed to get 18-24 hours out of a single charge, without having to manually touch the settings too too much (GPS/Bluetooth when I need them.) Now I think a lot of this depends on your personal usage, but for me this worked great. And here is how I did it:
1. Disabling/making less frequent updates in apps. For me this was Twidroid, Facebook, and NewsRob. I realized that I keep notifications off for these apps (I don't need to see a notification everytime someone I follow tweets you know?) and that even when they were all set to auto-refresh every 30 minutes or whatever, I STILL always hit refresh when I went in anyway. So I disable automatic updating. Obviously this depends on your usage, but for me, I didn't need up to the minute social networking information, and manually refresh anyway. But I went through all my apps that updated automatically and changed the setting.
2. Task Killing. In a perfect world, Android would efficiently manage it's own app load, but unfortunately the world isn't perfect. I found that if I know I'm going to be putting my phone down for a while, take a second and kill all the runnings apps. I use Astro, but there are countless apps that can do this for you. This is something I don't do frequently, but for example, if I'm going to go to bed and I don't have my charger, but want my phone on in case of an emergency, I'll kill all the running apps.
3. Brightness. After weeks of changing it back and forth because I don't really love the way it auto adjusts, I just said f**k it and put in auto. While sometimes the level of brightness it selects seems a little whack, it's definitely saved battery life. And saves me the trouble of changing it myself. I also found that setting the timeout to 15 seconds seemed to improve battery life.
4. Juice Defender. You can find this app on the marketplace. It has two modes, easy and advanced. If you want, you can go into the advanced and set schedules and all kinds of stuff. But for me, I just went into easy and hit enable. From what I understand, what this does is that if the screen is off, it disables network access for 14 minutes, turns it back on for 1, then off again for 14 etc. So, something like Gmail which is push will only be able to access the network every 15 minutes. Unless you are on WiFi. Now, if you NEED push e-mail and don't have WiFi, this isn't a very good solution. But according the stats in the app itself this has given me a 99% increase in battery life, and I believe it.
5. The trackball. This is perhaps the weirdest of my findings. The trackball light apparently can DESTROY the battery life. The other morning at around 80% I let my alarm on the phone go off and didn't stop it, so the trackball was flashing really fast. Without a couple hours the phone was completely dead. Nuts right? So I found that if I disable the trackball light when I know that I won't be able to dismiss my notifications quickly (like in a meeting or sleeping or whatnot) I'm able to avoid this happening.
6. GPS/Bluetooth. Again, this might seem very case specific, but I use bluetooth ONLY with my rokr headset when I'm on campus at night, and I use GPS only for navigation. So I keep the off when I'm not using them. With the power strip widget this isn't very difficult.
Anyway, that's it really. Like I said, maybe this is all common knowledge and I am just stupid haha. But I figured if not, I was pretty thrilled to go from 6 hours to 24 hours without having to do too much. BTW, some weird things I found didn't have an effect as much as I thought they would - 2g/3g, I actually got MORE battery life when I had 3g enabled. And WiFi was the same way, even when I didn't have a wifi connection, the difference in life with having it on or off was negligible.
Anyway, I hope this is helpful! If I remember anything else I'll add it.
I really like this guide and I'm going to use it when I get my n1. I like all (and will try) of the steps except #5.. the trackball notifications is just too sweet to ever turn off imo. Thanks for the guide.
I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
I dont have rubbish notifications on either, nor bluetooth/GPS unless needed. Ive got auto brightness on too.... might try juicedefender in future actually, it does sound good.
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
cymru said:
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
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only about 6-8 hours.
crachel said:
I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
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I was too but I duplicated that scenario a few times to make sure. Also, it might matter that I am running trackball succession and color hacks.
Trackball succession is killing your battery, not the trackball light.
only about 6-8 hours.
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Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Geez, whats your secret?
ChillRays said:
Geez, whats your secret?
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I second that, holy crap lol.
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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!!! Were you hit by lightening as a child or something? I can only conclude your natural charge is keeping it going :->
Also - OP - nice set of tips - thanks
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Wow... I only get that good of a battery life if I turn my N1 off!
Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
cymru said:
Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
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48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 26 hours out of mine.
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Accidently typed in 36 when I meant to type 26. Fixed.
I have a noob question, which this forum is how I get most of my N1 knowledge...
Which uses up more battery life, 3G or wifi?
Thanks to whoever replies.. (my best guess would be 3G)
pjcforpres said:
48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 36 hours out of mine.
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That's actually 26 hours.
muncheese said:
That's actually 26 hours.
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Which is still a lot. I'd really like to know how you are doing this. Do you make any voice calls? Do you text/e-mail a lot? Watch videos? Browse the web? Play music etc.?
I mean my usage is based on maybe an hour a day of talking on the phone, and a few hundred text messages, maybe a couple e-mails, frequent twitter/Facebook updates, and maybe a couple hours a day of playing games, watching videos, reading news etc.
I imagine if I just left the phone there it'd be close to 26-30 hours, but not with regular use.
cymru said:
I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
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Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
Some nice suggestions there c0wb0ycliche! Thanks.
A couple of other thoughts/suggestions...
1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
2. Not sure how much extra juice is saved by not using a Live Wallpaper, but if we're talking about battery savings here it might as well be said.
I would not be surprised if a large majority of people who get 25+ hrs hook onto wifi networks for a majority of the data usage. When switching to wifi the phone steps down to 2g mode for phone services.
AndyCr15 said:
Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
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No. Some applications have sister services that do this, but not all applications.
Namuna said:
1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
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Good point, has anyone mentioned SetCPU? If you set up a profile, it will lower your clock speed to 300mhz while the screen is off. Saves quite a bit of power.
I know one of the major concerns regarding the EVO has been the battery life. It was the reason that I rooted my phone in the first place, granting me the ability to rip out bloatware to conserve battery life. It wasn't until Saturday that I got around to noticing the rooted version of the official 2.2 release. All I did was download the ROM and delete all the apks/odexes I didn't want from the zip file, load it, charge my battery. Currently, I've been going almost 70 hours and am still at 60% battery life under normal use. That's a significant increase. The best I ever got was after the rooted second OTA at about 40 hours pushing the battery down to about 10%. Have other people been seeing battery life increases like this?
No, we have not. Quit bragging..
Serious? Experiment with more use of battery life
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I have noticed better battery life but not as good as you say. I've tried many different roms and kernels also.
do you actually use your phone on a daily basis? do you have any emails being synched? gmail? exchange? do you use facebook? browse the internet every 4-6 hours to see whats news on BGR or usatoday/cnn? do you text msg.. etc etc
if i leave my phone sitting i can have great battery life too, don't get me wrong i'm not trying to bash you, just trying to understand how you use phone so i can guage if this can apply to me. i know people who haven't installed one single app on their evo yet, usuage is different for everyone.....
Did you say 70 hours? Is that a typo? That's 2.916666666666666666666667 days and you've only dropped 40% battery life?
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do you actually use your phone on a daily basis? do you have any emails being synched? gmail? exchange? do you use facebook? browse the internet every 4-6 hours to see whats news on BGR or usatoday/cnn? do you text msg.. etc etc
if i leave my phone sitting i can have great battery life too, don't get me wrong i'm not trying to bash you, just trying to understand how you use phone so i can guage if this can apply to me. i know people who haven't installed one single app on their evo yet, usuage is different for everyone.....
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I was super nervous when I suggested the evo to my aunt's family over the iphone 4. AT&T doesn't even have 3g where they live though. Asked them if they had any battery issues with their 4 evo's and they looked me like I was crazy. Then I found out that they all only had like 1 app installed. They get great battery life on their stock 2.2 phones. If I play around with my phone, and I do, I usually am riding the red line by the end of the day.
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I don't use my phone that much for phone calls, actually. Several hundred texts a month, several megs of data a month. It's synched with gmail, I have a separate phone for everything else (work). At work I'm always on 3G, at home wifi. The only time it's not actively connected to a network is when I'm sleeping (sleep profile is only for the alarm). Outside of synching, I use the internet for random browsing periodically, usually sports related, or anytime I'm not at home or work and want information.
When I put this ROM on, I stripped out over 60 files from the zip file (almost 20megs) and only installed about 8 apps that I use regularly. After I configure my phone for all my settings, I remove all the widgets everywhere and setup just three screens with my widgets.
Even though I'm in Dallas, I rarely use 4G (the higher wavelength doesn't penetrate well in the urban areas I work or live in), only turn on GPS when I'm using Google Maps to drive around, and never have both wifi and 3G (Mobile) on simultaneously. I have my profiles setup so that the only time my screen brightness is above 0 is when I'm in my car or on a need basis (separate Bright profile).
I probably would have rooted my phone eventually but I did it about the third day I owned it because of the battery life. Most of the settings and ways I use the phone revolve around making sure I don't tax the battery. My real goal was being able to leave home for more than a day and not having to worry about minimizing my usage of anything, and now it seems I've easily done that.
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I know one of the major concerns regarding the EVO has been the battery life. It was the reason that I rooted my phone in the first place, granting me the ability to rip out bloatware to conserve battery life. It wasn't until Saturday that I got around to noticing the rooted version of the official 2.2 release. All I did was download the ROM and delete all the apks/odexes I didn't want from the zip file, load it, charge my battery. Currently, I've been going almost 70 hours and am still at 60% battery life under normal use. That's a significant increase. The best I ever got was after the rooted second OTA at about 40 hours pushing the battery down to about 10%. Have other people been seeing battery life increases like this?
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Hey I did not even know you could get that much time out of a single charge.... I am going at least 17 hrs before empty but thats enough for me in a full day. Hey honestly a car charger is on $13 at Walmart.
well i tried the "shut the phone off" mod and ive been getting weeks of use out of my phone on a single charge.
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So, this post is 1/2 "rant" and 1/2 "any ideas", but the JI6 Update has been (in my opinion) a very serious letdown.
First of all, I can't be alone in thinking that the late-September update from Samsung would be a full-blown upgrade to Froyo. Obviously it's not. I guess we'll wait awhile before that's released
Secondly, I'm one of those sorry saps that had the update soft-brick my phone. It took me a few days to get around to the ODIN fix (bumping me back to "stock"), but it was still a royal pain.
Thirdly, I've already seen some issues that I didn't have before. For instance, the phone "froze" on me while sitting at home: no screen response. I had to pull the battery and power up again. Nice!
Finally, the battery life is utterly horrible for me -- and I'm not sure why. Currently at 26% battery life (now 8h 4m since unplugged). 34% of the usage is "display", which has been on for 28m total. 22% is cell standby. 15% is phone idle. 10% is voice calls (2m 10s of that). 8% is the Android System. So on and so forth. Basically, I've *hardly* used my phone today, yet the battery isn't going to last thru to the afternoon. I have 6 active applications, with none of them hitting the CPU at all currently. Best of all? The battery icon looks like I'm about 1/2 full, so evidently Samsung couldn't be bothered to make that icon accurate. I know about the battery icon mods out there (I've used 'em), but I figured Samsung would take care of that.
Sorry for the venting, folks. Is anyone else seeing similar stuff? Any ideas on the lame battery life??
Thanks,
Yip
For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
Better than Windows NT = 1.6
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
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Ha! You may just be right on that. Eclair seems like a fairly lame version of Android, if you ask me. Not horrible, but not great.
anthonys2r said:
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
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"Signs of warning" means nothing, my friend. There are folks who didn't even *root* that got soft-bricked with this update. It was (somehow) poorly handled.
As for your widgets comment, well... you would've lost the bet. I use a single screen, no widgets, no weather stuff, bluetooth off, wifi on (but currently turned off), and nothing extraneous. I run Android about as light & frothy as you can get! I prefer speed over just about everything.
Any other thoughts, though? Perhaps I should re-load Autostarts to see if there's anything strange launching at boot time...
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Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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Interesting. Any ideas what would be pinging the cell standby so much? I'm in a high-bandwidth area (full bars), so it's not like the phone is struggling to get signal. I use Gmail and Exchange, but my Exchange sync is set to "hourly", rather than push.
Doesn't seem like I'd need to disable my 3G connectivity. I certainly have never had to before.
You should probably reflash the update. JI6 was great on my phone, no hiccups, no lag, perfect GPS.
Also, you should recalibrate your battery after the update and give it a few days to settle down. I always get horrible battery life after flashing a rom, but after a few cycles I'm back up to 24h+.
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Honestly, I wouldn't know unless I knew your full setup. What I will say is that I do have a lot of widgets and apps running that pull from the internet but yet my cell standby isn't as high as yours. I haven't reduced any of my sync intervals either. The 3G radio can really drain battery fast, faster than even the screen so that is a problem.
Also, in JI6, they increased the strength of the radio so it drains even more battery. I am running the JI6 modem however.
You should use something like WatchDog to see what is constantly running and using CPU. That could give you an indicator of problem apps.
Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Oh wow, yea definitely you need to disable all of those. That's the first thing I do. I actually uninstall Visual Voicemail, Telenav, Amazon MP3 etc. ALL of those things constantly run for some reason even without you opening them once.
You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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Amen to that. Except that the GPS is still unreliable.
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I'm having terrible battery life as well.
i'm 24 hours unplugged, sitting at 27%
all stock JI6
Again, if you didn't do so after the update, wipe battery stats and then do a few full drain/charge cycles. My battery life always sucks after flashing a new ROM, but it always goes back to normal given time.
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after the update for me, my gps is much better, but i actually have more lag then i had stock before....
so I need to either flash a kernel, lag fix, or a rom with at least one of those.... its kind of frustrating to have lag just from opening or closing a simple app, messages, or call... I honestly cant believe a phone with these hardware specs can have lag just from somthing as simple going into the dialer and exiting out...
Battery life seems to have decreased a little but still getting a good 20+ hours. GPS is a little better with use wireless networks. Lag is an issue now though. Didn't have much before a the update. Hopefully its solved in another update or froyo.
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So I applied the update on Tuesday through Mini Kies. First experience with this update, it's been great. My phone seems to faster, really I hardly experience any kind of lag or slowdown (and this is in comparison with my stock vibrant running OCLF). Battery life even seems to be better, but that is probably to do with conditioning. So everything has been good except for the fact that my phone has froze on me TWICE today. I'm thinking it's something to do with the apps though. I was in Layar and it was working for a bit when suddenly, it froze, I didn't have to pull the battery I just held the power button down for a good 5-10 seconds and it restarted. The other time was in a game, which kind of concerns me. I suppose I can reinstall both and see how that goes. I'm thinking it has more to do with the apps possibly being corrupted. The first thing I did was install the 2.2 market on my phone and I ran the update all function on like 15 apps that needed updating. Not a good idea imo, the market went crazy and forced closed a couple of times. I'm not entirely sure what is going but it seems like my phone is only freezing in certain apps. I hope it's not just some random freeze that can happen at anytime, that wouldn't be no good.
You guys complaining about battery life... i would Love to have your times. I got 3 hours and 8 minutes today on a fully charged battery.
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Be careful with these 3rd Party batteries. Some may work, others may not.
Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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Generally I wouldn't use a cheap high capacity battery, you cannot be certain of their manufacturing process or reliability. I would recommend buying an additional "Official" HTC battery. I keep a spare, wrapped in cling-film, in my car.
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i wouldnt even trust the "official" ones, i have seen fake nokia batteries where the hologram has been counterfeit, and i would bet that happens with alot of "official" batteries...
I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
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I wouldn't buy anything "Official" from eBay anyway. Find an approved HTC re-seller and Robert's your fathers brother.
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Thanks for reply, but I allready contact HTC and they said can give me just same baterry 1230 mA, I don`t now, maybe in a future they will be realised another baterry better than this one which came in box with device
Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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If you like JD, look for Ultimate Juice. It's from the same dev as JD.
It allows further battery tweaks, CPU scaling, location based data to name a few. Its a nice addition to JD.
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Thanks Andy, I'll do that. Already passed the gospel according to JD on to another DHD owner at work (fracking copycat, if you ask me!) and a pal with a normal (now officially renamed "crappy" to my pal's face ) Desire, and it is doing the business for them too.
I forgot to mention, that people trying JD may need to set it up as an exception if they also use an auto task killer, or it may get killed as another process the user forgets to close.
No problem, you sure you need a task killer?
Android 2.2 does a very good job at handling tasks/apps. Plus its not like we're going to run out of RAM anytime soon.
No, I dont have a task killer, but the default android Task Manager (installed on my DHD as standard) has an exceptions list, so I make sure anything I dont want Android to kill is added to that. Belt and braces stop the girls seeing your kn*b until you want them to, as my Grandad used to say.
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Haveyou got Juice Defender installed?
Here's my tale...
I got my DHD last Saturday, having spent 2 years in the company of a reliable and juice-frugal TouchHD. What a shock the DHD was! I set it up to do the same things the THD did (push Exchange server, 4 other email accounts syncing every 10 minutes, FB, etc), and I found a full battery lasted 5 hours. After tweaking it to within an inch of its life, including making exchange only look for new mail every 30 mins, it was only marginally better.
I called HTC UK support on Thursday and described the issues. I had until this Saturday (yesterday) to decide if I was keeping the phone, and despite loving its features, design, etc, I just could not live with a battery which failed to last a full day without being tethered to a charger.
The chap I spoke to at HTC checked the incident logs and NO-ONE HAS REPORTED CRAP BATTERY LIFE OFFICIALLY TO HTC!!! I found that amazing, but I guess most folks would rather ***** on here about it than tell someone who really needs to hear it. ;-) Anyway, he systematically went through everything I needed to do with the phone so that he understood what kind of user I was, and then as an afterthought said, "I have a great little app on my phone which manages the services I'm not using and switches them off", so I asked him to tell me more... "Well, I'm not really supposed to push non-HTC apps", he said, "but if you squeeze and orange, you get...?" and then "...and in a football team you have strikers, midfielders, and ....?"
Juice Defender, says I. Yep, he says.
So, here I am, 3 days later, and this app has revolutionised the phone for me. I still have push email on, but juice defender just turns on 3G for 1 minute every 15 minutes and runs all the updates (5 mail accounts, FB update, exchange sync, etc). I put JD on a fully charged phone at 1pm on thursday, never charged it again, and went to bed with over 40% juice left. Right now, I've been up since 8amwhen the phone was unplugged, and its nearly 11am now, and I've been on ebay for 20 mins, played a pool game for 20 mins, checked my emails 3 times, and installed 2 apps via AppBrain, and I still have 87% battery. Without JD in, I'm convinced that would be down to about 25%.
Works like a dream for me, and it doesnt feel as though I'm sacrificing anything to achieve this great battery life. If I want to use the internet browser it just overrides JD, until I close the browser. Perfect!
Worth a try for anyone struggling with battery, and it certainly works for me. It also has a little widget which displays how "big" your battery is. Mine now thinks its 1.83 times the size of the battery I really have (which equates to having a battery of about 2250mAh!!!).
RTR
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Thanx for reply, But I don`t now how setup the JD, at the moment I`m using task killer, but if I install JD I still need the task killer or not????(sorry for my English)
No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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No, you don't 'need' the task killer as 2.2 manages background processes automatically. All JD does is shut down high drain services when you have your screen locked, rather than let them eat your battery away. Give it a go. You can easily install it if you find it does nothing for you.
Good luck
RTR
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Thanx, much apreciate!!!!!
Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
mugen make the best batteries, ive been buying them for all my devices for years
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/?gclid=CP30lrO7tKYCFYUe4Qoden-FHA
I am using Yoobao 1200mah battery, as good as original...I think we all just have to accept that big screen & slim phones won't have a good battery life. Just get a spare battery & a portable charger, and you will be set for a day.
I have tried JD Ultimate last version and it sucks my battery juice. I had to get rid off of it. Looks like some changes were done since the previous version. Previous version worked well for me.
I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standar...597794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f04ed4362
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Im allsaw thinking about these ebay batterys!
There are 1500 and 1600!
Any one who have tried them?
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I have a 1600 and it works great for me, on 4 bucks.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Standard...item3f04ed4362
would like to know something about this aswell
I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great. There are NO rogue apps running, I only have about 10 installed.
The phone is 4 days old, so it could be why but I've battery cycled it twice already (letting it run dead and recharging it for 10 hours). All my widgets are off except weather and that is set to update every 3 hours and it is NOT using GPS. Wifi is off, so is bluetooth. Gps is off as well.
Is anyone using maximum power saver or just the regular nighttime setting for those reporting better battery life? I also uninstalled launcher pro, it seemed to glitch my phone a lot with the google toolbar and also seemed to have a slightly bigger toll on my battery. Also battery health is stating "Good". Is that the best or does it still need more conditioning?
You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....
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You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....
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Well I'll give you an example. The phone was unplugged almost 6 hours yesterday, and I used it around 3 hours and 46 minutes max. It got down to 5 percent and shut off. I had my music i was listening to for 25 minutes. I had my IM program on for about an hour, had a 12 minute phone call. Was texting back and forth mainly, and I checked a few things on the browser and exited out. MY IM program uses GPS to get my location but only when I request to do so, then shut the gps off. I force closed it when I was done to be sure it wasn't gonna drain any more of my battery. My notifications are off mainly except for my texts and such. And this was with JuiceDefender on the last half of the battery.
I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.
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I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.
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Thanks. I just got the phone not sure why I would need to factory reset it. Is there a way I can back my data up and such like texts and pics/apps?
Also 40 hours!? Jeeze do you like never use your phone at all? haha. That is insane my iPhone 4 never even got that good of battery life.
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I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great.
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That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .
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That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .
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Ah, no I have about 4 bars of HSPA+ in my house, I think i'm good on that, thank you!
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
Kaoe said:
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?
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Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?
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(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?
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It's an application called WidgetLocker. It's quite an amazing application if I do say so myself.
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Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?
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Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.
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Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.
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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.
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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.
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Generally. I allow that there are some that are not battery hogs. I do know the chat program on my Touch Pro (I forget what it was) would suck my battery dry in an hour or two if left running in the background.