I've tried to resolve each issue individually and have done my best to see if I could make this one work but5 this is getting ridiculous. Yesterday was the last straw.
Friday I had problems with the gps. It showed me about 3 blocks from where I really was and could not figure out what direction I was traveling. At one point it actually showed that I was going in the opposite direction I was really driving. I decided to give it another shot yesterday on a drive down to the keys. I was on US1 in a convertible with the top down, clear view of the sky and driving about 60mph. The gps using both Maps and ATT navigator showed me about 300 or 400 yards off the road and in the freakin water!!!!
And the GPS kept losing a lock on the sats.
Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
Add that to my wifi disconnect/reconnect issues and the communication error when checking for software updates (tried through wifi and through 4G and same thing on both) and I think I'm going to take advantage of the exchange period and get a new phone next week. This is ridiculous.
Juice defender is part of your problem.
butter and jelly please...
Yes screw juice defender!
You have a defective phone, go get another S III.
lol....now this morning it's not even being recognized by my PC. I connected it so I could take some pictures I took last night off of it and it's not even being recognized.
Yeah you got a lemon just take the phone back to at&t if you got it from a company owned store and your within your 30 days then they will just swap it out for you if you got it from a 3rd party like a best buy or a amazon then obviously you would follow their return and exchange policy, oh and ditch juice defender it doesn't work well with Ics at all do a search on the topic and you will see ( gingerbread yes, Ics its a no go).
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Seeing that you'd probably be factory resetting before returning I'd do that and just see if the issues continue. If so then return promptly. It could be any number of apps screwing with battery life and who knows juice def could be messing with GPS and wifi. Worth a shot. Factory reset and try some out without any apps added
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I've tried to resolve each issue individually and have done my best to see if I could make this one work but5 this is getting ridiculous. Yesterday was the last straw.
Friday I had problems with the gps. It showed me about 3 blocks from where I really was and could not figure out what direction I was traveling. At one point it actually showed that I was going in the opposite direction I was really driving. I decided to give it another shot yesterday on a drive down to the keys. I was on US1 in a convertible with the top down, clear view of the sky and driving about 60mph. The gps using both Maps and ATT navigator showed me about 300 or 400 yards off the road and in the freakin water!!!!
And the GPS kept getting a losing a lock on the sats.
Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
Add that to my wifi disconnect/reconnect issues and the communication error when checking for software updates (tried through wifi and through 4G and same thing on both) and I think I'm going to take advantage of the exchange period and get a new phone next week. This is ridiculous.
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seeing how the majority of people arent having these issues at all id say its safe to say you just have a defective phone so you should just exchange it for a new one...
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Yeah you got a lemon just take the phone back to at&t if you got it from a company owned store and your within your 30 days then they will just swap it out for you if you got it from a 3rd party like a best buy or a amazon then obviously you would follow their return and exchange policy, oh and ditch juice defender it doesn't work well with Ics at all do a search on the topic and you will see ( gingerbread yes, Ics its a no go).
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I bought it through ATT customer service by phone. I had an online chat with a tech last week about the battery and wifi issues and he suggested I take it to a store and they would exchange it for me. I tried to fix the issues so I wouldn't have to do that but now after the gps issue and last night's 60% in 3 hour while asleep problem, it's going back. Hopefully the store will exchange it without any problem.
I have Juice Defender Ultimate and Power Save Mode on and use my navigation almost every day and never had any issues. Sounds like a defective phone.
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I really think those are apps that are past their prime. I wouldn't put any of that junk on a new phone.
I've had the wifi connect/disconnect issue a lot. Not sure if I should return or wait for a software update.
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I really think those are apps that are past their prime. I wouldn't put any of that junk on a new phone.
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I thought the same but if you're a smartphone power user and want a full days use WITH 4 to 5 hours of screen time you need Juice Defender. I'm always on the go and started to leave the iPad at home because this phone with the right power saving apps can take the distance. I couldn't even do that with my Galaxy Note. Samsung S3 does.
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Then when I went to sleep I had about 75% battery left. I woke up 3 hours later and it was down to 15%. I had nothing running, made sure the gps was off and the apps were closed, juice defender was on, power save mode was on, and still the thing burned through 60% of the battery life in 3 hours.
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I've had some bad battery days. Get something like SystemPanel that will let you see the historical cpu usage of system processes. I'll bet you a dollar that gsiff_daemon is running amok and killing your battery. A reboot will fix it but it will probably come back. I haven't found the pattern yet but I have noticed that the phone gets very warm, so I'm thinking that it may be somehow related to my signal strength.
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Ok, so what happenned on the 2 instances that this happenned was all of a sudden I lost cellular signal and the phone made a sound and the signal bars switched to a circular sign with the line across it. I put the phone in airplane mode but nothing happenned, within a min phone restarted it self...
The phone is stock. No root or anything like that.
Ps... using the keyboard to type this, and its much easier compard to my old droids kb.
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Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
Just did it again when I went into pandora. I realized its actually not resetting, but the phone freezes up and everything reloads. Including signal and 3G... the screen shutz off and you can't turn it back on until it reloads
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I had the same problem with mine. I exchanged it for another one and have had no problems since
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Damn. Just when I get it the way I wanted it... Ugh...
What exactly was yours doing big jim?
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Your second thread mention "problems" you have with your phone. Go to a Sprint store.
I agree exchange it urs must be defective. A couple others have hd same issue.
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I had the same problem on my original Epic. I had three problems in total on that phone.
Samsung's crap coding that caused the phone to not sleep. (fixed after 2nd update)
The phone would randomly restart itself
During calls, the screen would freeze while illuminated. The call wasn't interrupted, but aftwards I had to pull the battery.
In the end I had to exchange the phone for another. Only problem was, the new phone had that couple millimeter gap with the slider. Sprint said it wasn't enough for third exchange though.
Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
I'm gonna give it 1 more week see what happens, then return perhaps for another epic. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking to the epic though, i really like the camera capabilities of the phone.
I'm actually going to run 4 tests this week
I'm going to leave the phone untouched from 10:00 to 21:00 and note the percentage in battery with juice defender on/off and also noLED on/off, see what happens... to make it even, i'll just leave the phone in my car, and it won't be used except it's usual email checking/texts/missed calls etc.
my droid unused for that period of time usually was around 80%. it was running a custom rom with 1 ghz kernel as well, so same power requirements i'd say. except epic has a bigger battery.
Battery is pretty bad with the Epic but Im not surprised at all about that. I have about 50% right now with heavy texting, a few phone calls, and listening to music. 8hrs unplugged. I think it would make it to 14-15 hrs easy with heavy use.
Phone calls kill the battery the most I believe.
And I'm using Juice Defender.
Mine was dying with heavy texting, some GPS and browsing within 6-7 hours, no phone calls....
I did a little test today.
When I'm at the police academy my phone is in my car from 1000 to 2100. My rooted 1ghz droid would be at 80% by 2100. it'd get it's regular share of texting/emails and all that I couldn't look at until 2100.
I did the same thing today with the Epic, with juice defender, it was at 79%, so pretty much exactly the same...
tomorrow I'll do the same test with JD off and see if it makes a diff
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Man, this sucks... Just when I put all the apps I wanted on it and got it running the way I want it...
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Use titanium backup and u can restore all ur apps n settings in a jif
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I have just installed Juice Defender (free version) and using it as installed. I'll see if it helps. I have a question about the status of TRAFFIC, it is listed as "Leave Data/WiFi enabled while >50KB/15s", what does this mean? I can guess that JD will leave the Data connection ON, even if it is scheduled OFF, if the phone is sending/receiving data at a rate greater than 50KB/15s. Is this close?
Thanks
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Weird. Haven't experienced that before myself. I have had it lose signal and display the circle with a line through it but it's not very often and only for a second or two.
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Mine has been doing this every once in awhile. Even in a good signal area, its like the radio randomly decides to reset. I'm currently trying to see if its a software or hardware thing.
Sadly the modem was backported from the samsung moment. It has only partof it power managment system in it it will befixed swhen froyo comes
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I am having the same problem with my phone suddenly. If I have multiple apps open, such as radio, browser, and facebook at the same time, it seems to cause it to reset itself. It's not a full hard reset, but more of a soft one, screen goes black and everything starts up as if the phone was just turned on.
Maybe it's time for a replacement?
I am really confused at this point. I have 2 epics both with phoenix kernal and ee rom. My phone goes a full 14 hour day and typically has 40% battery left by the time I go to sleep. My wife's phone with the same kernel/rom is dead after 8 hours.
I am really stumped... she has some extra apps but they are set to update every 4-6 hours. Sync is off on both phones. The only real diff is I have 2 emails /w k9 (yahoo and gmail) and she has 3 using the default mail program for her work email due to k9 not syncing her calendar with her work exchange account. Both phones were odin flashed to stock before replacing the kernel/rom.
Any ideas? Both have gps off and just use the tower gps for some location updates. Both are set the same way. I am really confused and stumped.
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Could just be a bad battery. Swap your battery into your wifes phone and see if the problem moves.
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Yeah I can try that tomorrow.
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Do you both use 3g all day, do you use more wifi?
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Do you both use 3g all day, do you use more wifi?
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Well it varies. Some days when I work from home I use wifi all day. If I am at work physically I am on 3G. Her signal at work is about 4 bars, mine is about 2. Even when I go to work I still can easily go all day on a charge, she cant even with the stronger signal.
I was having problems with my battery only lasting until about 2 in the afternoon, so i went and bought 2 extra batteries and a docking charger. Then i ended up with a dead pixel in the middle of the screen and got a replacement phone. The manufacture date was a month later... and i havent had the same battery problems. My battery will now last all day and a good chunk into the evening before i have to charge it. (With lots and lots and LOTS of phone call usage.) Might want to try and find something wrong with your phone where you can get a replacement. Just a thought
Have you done the battery calibration on both phones per the EE instructions?
Got my LTE upgrade done on my Xoom and now the battery is a joke. I went into settings and disabled the LTE connection, so that now 3g is only used. I also turn wifi on when at home. Currently my Xoom is draining 4ish% per hour while in standby. That means this damn thing won't last a day just sitting there, locked, with no screen on. In Honeycomb 3.0 and 3.1 I could get a days of use with 4-5 hours of screen on time and about 22-26 hours of total unplugged time. Now, under 3.2.2 my battery is totally dead after 18 hours of unplugged time with around 1-1.5 hours of screen use. This is virtually unuseable for taking notes in graduate school after work, when being close to an outlet is impossible.
Any ideas as to what's going on? Tried using Watch Dog and System Panel to see if any apps were going nuts with random CPU usage or RAM usage and everything seems to be in-check in terms of system resource usage. Considering I have 4g totally turned off and wifi enabled when I'm in range of wifi (most of the day) I don't have a clue where this power drain is coming from. Any assistance is highly appreciated given how much I rely on my Xoom for day-to-day use. 3.2.2 seems to have killed it for me.
Please help! Will try any suggestions.
Thanks.
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Have you tried disabling mobile data entirely? When I'm in wifi, I disable the cellular connection but haven't performed any in-depth trials on battery life.
"Settings" > "Wireless & networks" > "Mobile networks" > deselect "Data enabled"
Its not just you, mine is the same way it sucks big time. There really isn't anything that I've found to fix it.
I loved how I used to be able more than a day out of a charge...
Anybody have any ideas? Maybe undervolt kernel???
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I just received my zoom Lte upgrade and haven't had any battery issues.
PengLord said:
Have you tried disabling mobile data entirely? When I'm in wifi, I disable the cellular connection but haven't performed any in-depth trials on battery life.
"Settings" > "Wireless & networks" > "Mobile networks" > deselect "Data enabled"
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I haven't but this isn't feasable. I use mobile internet for everything and even take notes and such on Google docs. Even though I'm near wifi for most of a given day, I shouldn't be bothered by manually turning mobile data on and off just to have power- mobile data should be mostly killed when wifi is active. That's how this Xoom worked before. A tablet without internet is nothing more than a paperweight to me. 2 classmates with LTE upgraded Xooms are having identical problems. No fixes found yet. Any other suggestions? This battery life is really, REALLY bad.
Tried going a factory reset and battery life is the same, horrid short, running nothing but stock apps.
Any other suggestions?
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I just received my zoom Lte upgrade and haven't had any battery issues.
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How long ago did you receive it? The degraded battery seems to have started shortly after the first initial charge after the LTE install.
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Same problem here, but I have the mobile network completely turned off and it still does this! Even with the switch to CDMA only!
I will keep reading this thread (only read the about half the posts before posting) so hopefully a solution will show up. But you're not alone in the horrible battery life post LTE upgrade!
I've had my Xoom back since last Wed.
No higher battery drain than previously.
I'm on wifi 90% of the time in home and office.
Yesterday I was all over north San Diego county using 4g. Got home with 60% charge which is about the same as for a prior trip with 3g.
Put your xoom back the way it was. The new hardware sucks the battery a little more. Buy a thunderbolt and then say the xoom battery life sucks. Never charged it during the day before the upgrade. Oh well, that's the price if 4g.
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Got my LTE upgrade done on my Xoom and now the battery is a joke. I went into settings and disabled the LTE connection, so that now 3g is only used. I also turn wifi on when at home. Currently my Xoom is draining 4ish% per hour while in standby. That means this damn thing won't last a day just sitting there, locked, with no screen on. In Honeycomb 3.0 and 3.1 I could get a days of use with 4-5 hours of screen on time and about 22-26 hours of total unplugged time. Now, under 3.2.2 my battery is totally dead after 18 hours of unplugged time with around 1-1.5 hours of screen use. This is virtually unuseable for taking notes in graduate school after work, when being close to an outlet is impossible.
Any ideas as to what's going on? Tried using Watch Dog and System Panel to see if any apps were going nuts with random CPU usage or RAM usage and everything seems to be in-check in terms of system resource usage. Considering I have 4g totally turned off and wifi enabled when I'm in range of wifi (most of the day) I don't have a clue where this power drain is coming from. Any assistance is highly appreciated given how much I rely on my Xoom for day-to-day use. 3.2.2 seems to have killed it for me.
Please help! Will try any suggestions.
Thanks.
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Download Auto Airplane Mode by DON from the market. It will help BIG TIME!! It does just what the title states, it puts the Xoom into airplane mode automatically as soon as the screen goes off. When you turn the screen back it, the data comes right back in 3 -4 seconds and you're good to go!
Also, you don't have to uncheck any settings or turn 4G off.
Update: Mobile data completely turned off, on wifi only with Xoom sitting about 4 feet from router all morning, so wifi signal was strong. This is the first time I've used the device today. Unplugged at 330am my time, its now 130pm. Device battery is at 60%. 10 hours and 40% of battery gone. That's with mobile data 100% disabled, wifi only- can't even get the Xoom to standby for a full day now. At this current drain rate, it would go from 100% to 0% in one day with no mobile data usage, no screen on time and no usage other than syncing Gmail every 2 hours.
Brother who commented above: Thunderbolt will standby for a full day with no screen on time on wifi only and it has under 1/3 the Xooms battery capacity. I should know- my wife has one and it now outlasts my Xoom. That should not be the case.
From my understanding the Xoom has two 3225ish batteries set up in a sequence. My battery life actually seems to be about half of what it was before. Is it possible that one of the two was disconnected during the LTE radio installation and not properly reconnected? Wasn't sure of the details of how the batteries were set up, but if the Xoom could function with the second battery not working, seems like that would precisely half battery life. Anyone familiar with exactly what had to be done internally to upgrade the radio? Looking at the ifixit teardown of the Xoom, the batteries cover the whole backside- looks impossible to do any internal work on this thing without removing them. Any thoughts?
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Landon
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Same here. Can't get a full day out of it. Hope a fix will be comming up.
Thunderbolt got the he-man battery and modded my otter box to fit. The xoom battery has entered the battery hog realm after the lte radio. As far as I can tell the radio is cdma/lte together. And it uses power even if wifi is on and data off. It's what I would call big brother watcher. Even if your not connected the radio is txing and rxing something. You know it's lojacked!
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Interestingly enough, removing the LTE SIM card and using wifi only made no improvement to battery life. I'm assuming the new radio is running at 100% all the time without throttling down, even if absolutely no connection exists or there is a string of faulty battery reinstalls in which only one battery is providing power. That might explain why some people seem to have greater battery issues than others.
Landon
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im glad im not the only one with this problem! its pathetic! im taking my charging cable from my dock with me to work so ill have at least some battery life when i take the train home in the evenings
i to am glad that I'm not alone with this either. I use to charge mine every 4 days with no wifi on and almost no use. Now I get about a day with no use. I mainly use it for web searching and dungeon defenders when I'm home. Horrid battery life for doing nothing. Luckly I mainly only use it at home and am almost always on the dock I got from motor from the upgrade. I use about 4% an hour also with nothing on. Mine is completely stock with no root.
Yahoo mine is stock with absolutely no root or other mods. I guess they knew about the pissy battery life and that's why they gave a free dock. Lol. Still trying to find exactly what's killing the battery. LTE does drain a lot of juice but as I've stated before my wife has a Thunderbolt and per mW of battery power, the thunderbolt is more efficient and that's not saying much. It can standby for over a day with no use fine and it has roughly a little less than 1/3 the Xoom battery capacity. Something isn't right. Its not supposed to be this bad. Anyone filed a complaint/tech request with moto/Verizon? I think its something that we should all do and report what they say here. I have a feeling more and more people are gonna have this issue if they do the upgrade. Maybe if enough of us make some noise, something will be done.
Landon
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Maybe it's not the radio.
3.2.2 may have some kind of interaction with something you guys were running that's causing wake locks to get stuck
Did you look at Settings:About Tablet: Battery Use ?
(tap on the histogram at the top for another, see if the time spent awake is solid or different from screen on)
I tested this on mine, with the mobile data disabled and lost about 1% battery every hour, this is on par with the performance I had pre-upgrade.
Rooted, stock kernel
I realize it does not help you but you might look somewhere other than the wireless radio for the problem. I unplugged my upgraded Xoom yesterday morning around 8:30 AM. It is now 8:20 AM and my battery is at 66%. I was on 4G for about 2-3 hours yesterday, the rest of the time on wifi. I check and respond to my mail on the Xoom so it saw some use yesterday, though not as much as I normally do.
Okay so I posted here a week or so ago about how my Xperia Play was epicly failing....it was force closing everything and dying in just hours.
So I factory reset and used Titanium to restore all of my apps and stuff...and so far the crawling speed/force closing has for the most part abated (opening up texts and contacts still sometimes takes forever or force closes)
but the battery issue remains. My battery is absolute garbage at the moment. It drains by 10 percent per half hour if being used or even more!! And it gets hot constantly, and obviously at that time it really sheds the power and dies quickly.
If I'm CHARGING the phone WHILE using it heavily, it WON'T power ABOVE the % it started at!! It stays constant or goes down!!
I'm not sure what to do. Should I let the phone die, keep it off, and charge it while off till its 100%?
Or maybe my phone is approaching the situation it was a week ago...I constantly check the running apps and its the usual suspects, nothing crazy. I had to delete official facebook app because it almost ALWAYS lagged and oftentimes force closed.
It says cell standby is using 40%, wi-fi using about 22%, voice calls 17%, phone idle 15%, and dialer 14%
What happened to my phone? Why is it such a clusterf*ck lately? Any ideas/advice?
Are you leaving wifi on because that will really suck the battery down? Also do you live in an area with bad signal? Put it in airplane mode and see if the battery still discharges as fast.
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Are you leaving wifi on because that will really suck the battery down? Also do you live in an area with bad signal? Put it in airplane mode and see if the battery still discharges as fast.
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My r800x dies in 6 hours whether it's on airplane mode or not. I've re calibrated the battery like 5 times so far, and it just won't get better. I'm regretting moving to verizon to this. I should just get a sim card and go back to my HTC Inspire. I can leave the r800x in idle with the screen off, while in airplane mode and it will still die in 6 hours. It doesn't even last a whole day of work. Mine's also rooted. I need some serious help with this phone.
Turn off wifi.
If you have it on it will search for wifi networks all of the time (unless you're home and connected to your own wifi) and it will suck your battery dry.
I don't even use wifi. I don't have access to the router at home, and my data is turned off when I'm not using it.
Perhaps you have a bad battery? Maybe replacing that will solve the issue.
It could be. Every time I try to check my battery's health, no matter what app I use, or even if I do it from the service menu it reads at "unknown". One app says that my phone doesn't even have a battery stat service, or something along those lines. I was considering just buying one of those mugen batteries for my phone, considering that I brought the issue to verizon's attention, and they told me they were gonna send me a replacement battery, but I never got it. This was all about 2 months ago though.
wow, sounds bad. mine will last all day, its an r800x on 2.3.3 as well but i can use it like normal, play about a hour of games on it, talk on it a lot, use wifi and 3g and do some average surfing and it will last at least 24-30 hours...
i'm thinking it must be a bad battery as well
Im running 2.3.3 verizon from the FTF and my r800x would last almost 3days, and thats with texting/talking/surfing using 3g and playing a shyt load of sonic . I would replace the battery with a genuine Sony replacement, dont ever buy a ebay knock off ! Furthermore, I don't believe apps that check your battery health are accurate at all, so dont waste your time.
Best way to check (imo) - Before you charge it up, let it go to 0% and die. Boot recovery and wipe the battery stats, turn the phone on and charge to full. After its fully charged, let it sit 10-15 mins on charge. Then pull of the charge and use normally, if it still dies fast, replace the battery.
If this idea was already posted sorry for double post
How do I go into recovery? My boot loader is still locked. As much as I want to unlock it to put abc xperia play rom on, I don't want to pay 25 bucks.
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How do I go into recovery? My boot loader is still locked. As much as I want to unlock it to put abc xperia play rom on, I don't want to pay 25 bucks.
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You cannot boot into recovery without an unlocked bootloader
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I swapped mine out for similar issues. The replacement doesn't have the same issues yet but I haven't put a single app on it. I can't say that adding apps caused it before because I remember it similarly not getting anywhere when charging while using. I also experienced it dropping while charging but it turned out to be a that the MTP device wasn't starting on the PC so it showed as plugged in and charging even though it wasn't (check the Device Manager). My Alienware M11x actually supports charging devices off that particular USB port when it is turned off so it was a bit hard to figure out when it seemed to charge some times and not others.
So I got a new battery. Battery life oz still terrible, phone still can't detect battery health.
Not sure why, but my battery voltages are higher than 3.6 :/
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Hate to tell you but it sounds like your Play is defective.
The only way it would always get hot like that is if it was always running, that would be mainly driven by being in a REALLY bad service area that its always searching. I have a boatload of games etc on mine and my battery life varies from 2 days to 3/4 of a day depending where I am. Heck my battery life varies as to whether I leave my phone on my desk at work or on the shelf above me (lasts longer on the shelf).
But the fact you said that even in airplane mode it eats the battery, and a new battery didn't do the trick. I would say you got a bad one. Still under warranty I hope?
i'm not entirely sure. I got mine through verizon in august or september of this year. Not sure if Verizon would handle replacing it, since I didn't buy their extended warranty. I read somewhere that SE themselves can handle it since it's not a year old yet, but my phone is kinda required for work.
Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
Yeah this needs to be fixed
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Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
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It's because you aren't aware of what you are leaving on. Not only wifi, NFC, Bluetooth but also applications that are memory hogs that maybe running in the background not allowing your tablet to go into deep sleep. Don't blame the tablet. Also I don't know if you remember this but you paid $250 dollars tops for this tablet. Why are you complaining?!
Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
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Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
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More likely about the person leaving it there. Take the ten seconds to power it off.
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May have paid 200 for the nexus but paid 500 for the 7.7 and had the same problem with it. Sold it to buy the nexus... thought newer software might mean better power management... guess not... still behind the iPad in that department. Ridiculous to have to disable and shut off stuff everytime your not using it... guess its back to the old airplane mode toggle widget... maybe android version. 5 will solve this.
Mine can last about a week (extrapolating from power stats, of course; I'm not crazy enough to just do that). Phone's actually being more annoying in this respect; I have to figure it out and possibly change kernel.
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I really can't see the point of why wanting something to hold a charge for 5 days without use is an issue!
I use my phone and my Nexus 7 everyday and charge it at night .
Why pay for an item and not use it?
I don't buy the argument that you paid just 200 dollars so you should STFU. Yes, the standby time is really crappy.
I have found a solution for it - it's called Llama. It is similar to Tasker, but free. I have set up a profile - 'Turn airplane mode on 1min after screen turns off. And turn airplane mode off when screen turns on'. So you don't have to remember to turn airplane mode on/off yourself every time you put the tablet on standby.
With this app and setting, my tablet loses 5-6% in 1 day.
Its not that I don't pick it up but once every 5 days.... for example it probably had around 30 percent 15 hours ago when I got up and I used it for 15 minutes.... well when I picked it up tonight to use it to Delve into a chapter of World War Z I'm reading it had 11 percent left... I knew I would have to deal with it plugged in while I was reading... I was pissed and decided to post since this happens practically on a weekly basis. .... Anyway I'm over it and thanks for the heads up on that llama app.Verrjiggy. I will give it a shot
My guess is something is continuining to run and use resources in the background even if the screen is off.
Go into Settings, WiFi, Advanced and make sure wifi is turned off when the screen goes off.
Install Auto Airplane Mode
Install CPUSpy and see whether it goes into deep sleep when you're not using it.
HTH
It seems simple enough to just plug it in to charge every day or two.:laugh:
I find a couple days of use great battery time and don't mind charging mine every other night.Shut down the wifi/bluetooth ect,stop auto updates and sync manually and you can probably see 5 days of coffee table use.
People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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kangxi said:
People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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While it has a bit to do with apps, the way Android functions is also to blame. I am a big time Google fanboy. So please don't give me fanboy-istic arguments and ask me to get an iPad. Overlooking shortcomings of Android is not the best stand to take. Or saying - 'Hey, that's how Android is!'
Turning off wireless is definitely a solution (see my post above on this thread), but it is not ideal.
More so, if you are blaming apps, blame Google's own apps also. Cos they keep refreshing all the time as well.
I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
For your last point as to why people leave their devices sitting around. Well, different people use their devices differently. I just use the tablet for a couple of hours in the evening. Vacation, travel for work, blah blah blah. There can be a thousand reasons. You can't fault them cos they don't use their tablets.
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I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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I could see it using 2% in 24 hours with wifi off & nothing syncing, overnight mine uses about 2-3% in 8 hours with wifi on & stuff still syncing in the background.
If you didn't know, if you go to Settings - wifi - Advanced there is an option to be able to turn off wifi while in sleep mode. It works awesome and on a whole battery with average use and little gaming, I get about 4 days charge. I'm also running Paranoid Android with Trinity kernel.
O.P. Seriously? Put your damn tablet on your charger every other day while you sleep if you need it to last longer than 4 days. Who gives a **** if an ipad has an extra days battery life, it wouldn't last 5 days if someone picked it up and actually used it instead of it being a fancy paper weight.
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I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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To be honest; I found it hard to believe myself but I kept an eye on it for several nights and I saw the same results. If I have a strong battery; I'm not complaining!!
Y'all realize the iPad 3 battery is almost 3 times larger than the n7s? The iPad 2 batt is over one and a half times larger. So really what did you expect? GTFO.
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