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Confirmed: The Nexus S Does Not Have Gorilla Glass

Confirmed: The Nexus S Does Not Have Gorilla Glass.
Samsungservice @colinsmall Hi Colin! I have confirmed that the Nexus D does not have Gorilla Glass. ^Sabrina

csmall said:
Confirmed: The Nexus S Does Not Have Gorilla Glass.
Samsungservice @colinsmall Hi Colin! I have confirmed that the Nexus D does not have Gorilla Glass. ^Sabrina
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Nexus D???

bummmmmmmmmmer

tekkitan said:
Nexus D???
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heh, I guess she hit the D key instead of the S key when she typed it.

Well, it might have monkey glass Less strong ... but allright.

I wonder how tough it is. Many people thought it had Gorilla Glass and that was part of their reasoning behind not using a screen protector etc...
Now not knowing how tough it is I wonder if people will reconsider going "naked"

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I wonder how tough it is. Many people thought it had Gorilla Glass and that was part of their reasoning behind not using a screen protector etc...
Now not knowing how tough it is I wonder if people will reconsider going "naked"
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Yes, I assumed the same thing, but I've gone "naked" with all my smartphones for a couple of years and never scratched any of them except my very first iPhone original model.
I wonder why they skipped the Gorilla Glass...all the other Galaxy S models have it. Maybe GG doesn't do the curve well?

I went naked with my EVO and never had a scratch. Just don't put it in your pocket with sand or car keys. Glass is very difficult to scratch.

Looks like Google is starting to cut corners.

They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?

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They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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I thought Gorilla Glass was a given on all new phones since at least iphone 4 came out with it. My Streak, captivate, galaxy tab, they all came with it. It looks to me like a step backwards on the Nexus S. Man, I really want to like this phone but...

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They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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Cost cutting.
Have you seen the prices of Galaxy S phones unlocked?

I opened mine brand new in the box.... and it has a few small fine scratches on it

JCopernicus said:
Cost cutting.
Have you seen the prices of Galaxy S phones unlocked?
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I haven't looked but 570 after taxes can't be too much lower. I probably would have paid a little more for the SD card/Gorilla Glass/Notification light etc...

calin75 said:
I really want to like this phone but...
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I feel this is the general consensus, and while I don't doubt there are many happy adopters of the NS, I can't help but feel some people are making excuses to justify their purchase. For example, many say we don't "need" HSPA+. Let's be consistent: there are many things on the phone we don't need. Yet when weighed against the fact that all carriers are pushing for "4G" going into 2011, disappointment over the lack of it is perfectly justified.
I want to like the Nexus S, as well.

youtube scratch test please
Highly recommend realook to anyone thinking of getting a SP
not sure if NS version is out yet
But I have one on my vibrant and cant even tell i have a SP on

onthecouchagain said:
I feel this is the general consensus, and while I don't doubt there are many happy adopters of the NS, I can't help but feel some people are making excuses to justify their purchase. For example, many say we don't "need" HSPA+. Let's be consistent: there are many things on the phone we don't need. Yet when weighed against the fact that all carriers are pushing for "4G" going into 2011, disappointment over the lack of it is perfectly justified.
I want to like the Nexus S, as well.
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I completely agree. Just because Google tells us that this is the best they could do this time, we have to bow down and take it; or find excuses to justify our purchase. That's why I got rid of my iphone; I was tired of making excuses about its limitations. I can forsee lots of buyer's remorse very soon.

Well it's been reported that the MT4G doesn't have gorilla glass either... screen seems just as strong as my Vibrant's, but again, that's just my opinion... haven't actually tested it heh.

calin75 said:
I completely agree. Just because Google tells us that this is the best they could do this time, we have to bow down and take it; or find excuses to justify our purchase. That's why I got rid of my iphone; I was tired of making excuses about its limitations. I can forsee lots of buyer's remorse very soon.
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I have remorse right now.... and I dont even have the phone yet. Still deciding whether to ebay it for a small profit or just wait for patches or fixes to the current problems we are seeing

csmall said:
They seem to have left out a bunch of things that were already present in the Galaxy S phones. Maybe to rush to market? Holiday sales?
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I agree.
Google hasn't given any good reasons for people to go for a N:S instead of other phones (for example Galaxy S, which IMO still is better).

Galaxy Note Dead in the Water

For me, the Galaxy Note is dead in the water. I went through 4 units, the last being croaked by ICS, and it also had the eMMc bug. Onwards and upwards. Talk of the Note 10.1 and Note Mk2 seem interesting, but by the time they hit the streets in the UK, other manufactures might have something else to consider.
These devices are way too expensive to take risks with, and considering the now tarnished reputation of the Galaxy Note, its a once bitten, twice shy situation. Its a great shame, the Galaxy Note could have been iconic, but its not. The experience of owning one soon becomes a burden. Watching the Samsung ads on the telly just making you feel a complete fool while you wait for the next replacement to arrive, and then, its only to find its just as bad as the one you sent back. Then comes the acceptance this is about as good as its going to get, so you keep it. I had in my mind that it would be out of date anyway, within a year or less, I could flog it on eBay and get a better, faster, more reliable, more feature rich upgrade. Samsung wasn't going to let me have that luxury, they hit me with the Ice Cream Sandwich. Well I'm not going to repeat that part of the story here, but suffice to say ICS to me meant 'Instant Crippled Samsungnote'. That was it, I'm out, I'm not sacrificing any more of my life in a quest to get something that really doesn't exist, and that something, is a product free from major defects and faults.
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bigstarrynight said:
For me, the Galaxy Note is dead in the water. I went through 4 units, the last being croaked by ICS, and it also had the eMMc bug. Onwards and upwards. Talk of the Note 10.1 and Note Mk2 seem interesting, but by the time they hit the streets in the UK, other manufactures might have something else to consider.
These devices are way too expensive to take risks with, and considering the now tarnished reputation of the Galaxy Note, its a once bitten, twice shy situation. Its a great shame, the Galaxy Note could have been iconic, but its not. The experience of owning one soon becomes a burden. Watching the Samsung ads on the telly just making you feel a complete fool while you wait for the next replacement to arrive, and then, its only to find its just as bad as the one you sent back. Then comes the acceptance this is about as good as its going to get, so you keep it. I had in my mind that it would be out of date anyway, within a year or less, I could flog it on eBay and get a better, faster, more reliable, more feature rich upgrade. Samsung wasn't going to let me have that luxury, they hit me with the Ice Cream Sandwich. Well I'm not going to repeat that part of the story here, but suffice to say ICS to me meant 'Instant Crippled Samsungnote'. That was it, I'm out, I'm not sacrificing any more of my life in a quest to get something that really doesn't exist, and that something, is a product free from major defects and faults.
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The second I find a phone just a big I'm jumping ship as well. I should have learned my lesson when I was getting crazy problems with the Samsung infuse. Note equally sucks
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Good for you, mine is flying along with a great ROM and has never once faulted because I follow all instructions laid out.
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Atomix86 said:
Good for you, mine is flying along with a great ROM and has never once faulted because I follow all instructions laid out.
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Heh heh... same here! :good:

Dunno y so many ppl r whining about the note.... showus one phone which is without any problems... i ve been using note from dec never found a prob..... all the problems ppl stating a software related and can be rectified by using different kernels....

Because this phone is horrible. Its the exact same thing as the sky rocket, its just over sized and has a POS pen with no calibration. Its worthless. Ode to the Samsung boat
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KangKilla said:
Because this phone is horrible. Its the exact same thing as the sky rocket, its just over sized and has a POS pen with no calibration. Its worthless. Ode to the Samsung boat
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Last I checked, this was the international version forums. I am 100% stock and locked and have had no problems. Hell, even with an occasional L2_hsic reboot, it is still better than an iphone.
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kvsandeepreddy said:
Dunno y so many ppl r whining about the note.... showus one phone which is without any problems... i ve been using note from dec never found a prob..... all the problems ppl stating a software related and can be rectified by using different kernels....
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Exactly, other devices have problems that affect day-to-day use for crying out loud. That LG 3D phone suffers from ghost calling, where the owner of the phone doesn't know calls were coming through, the iPhone dropped calls if you held the damn thing in a particular way! WTF are people whining about, when even the oh so mighty Apple even have flaws in their products that can affect all users, not just those who hack the crap out of them.
For a normal user who doesn't tamper, they will probably never know there is a fault with the emmc in the Note, everything else is pretty much software and can be sorted relativity easy. And for those users if something goes wrong Sammy will fix it, replace the unit, which ever, not the half arsed attempt like apple did and gave owners a cover!
They didn't fix it, they literally just covered the problem up.
Rant done!
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Samsung has sold over 7 million Notes and it has been universally acknowledged as a huge success and Samsung are preparing to release a Note 2. Dead in the water? I think not.

RavenY2K3 said:
Exactly, other devices have problems that affect day-to-day use for crying out loud. That LG 3D phone suffers from ghost calling, where the owner of the phone doesn't know calls were coming through, the iPhone dropped calls if you held the damn thing in a particular way! WTF are people whining about, when even the oh so mighty Apple even have flaws in their products that can affect all users, not just those who hack the crap out of them.
For a normal user who doesn't tamper, they will probably never know there is a fault with the emmc in the Note, everything else is pretty much software and can be sorted relativity easy. And for those users if something goes wrong Sammy will fix it, replace the unit, which ever, not the half arsed attempt like apple did and gave owners a cover!
They didn't fix it, they literally just covered the problem up.
Rant done!
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Couldnt agree more !!
I have to say, of all the phone companies out there Samsung have always been my favourite, The build quality isnt as good as say..... HTC, but in terms of hardware ive never had a fault !
Samsung seem to be the only ''Developer Friendly'' company out there! Replacing bricks, no questions asked, Releasing Source code instantly (SGS3 code was released before the phone !)
it all boils down to the user, I wont judge you for not liking the Note, But no matter what you say, You will not stop me liking the Note
I love my Note (Phablet) !!

4 units and you still get the same "defects"?
i'd say it's a user error.

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4 units and you still get the same "defects"?
i'd say it's a user error.
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Really!! How so?

Completly agree.
I got a good offer to swap my note+200$ for a brand new s3 but I am holding because it is another Samsung Phone.
I still love the note because of big beautiful screen - nothing else.
Let's see what HTC comes with.

What is wrong with people....if there were so many problems in this smartphone it would never get such good critics or get sold a lot....so the problem is with 7million who are using it or just you who don't know what android is and what galaxy note can run under its hood...this is like BMW m3 ....stop whining and replace the inner parts to boost it up...

Rulinglionadi said:
What is wrong with people....if there were so many problems in this smartphone it would never get such good critics or get sold a lot....so the problem is with 7million who are using it or just you who don't know what android is and what galaxy note can run under its hood...this is like BMW m3 ....stop whining and replace the inner parts to boost it up...
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Do you have Note without borked eMMC, screen issues and half arse ICS?
No one is whining.

Boy124 said:
Do you have Note without borked eMMC, screen issues and half arse ICS?
No one is whining.
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Yup, running CM9...

Rulinglionadi said:
What is wrong with people....if there were so many problems in this smartphone it would never get such good critics or get sold a lot....so the problem is with 7million who are using it or just you who don't know what android is and what galaxy note can run under its hood...this is like BMW m3 ....stop whining and replace the inner parts to boost it up...
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I dare say there are lot of very satisfied customers, but that is no excuse to continue to sell defective units, which it appears there are. Also, it is not an excuse to ignore, or disadvantage the minority who do most certainly have problems with the product..
Read my profile. I do know about andoid and where it came from, and I do know what runs under the hood of the 'note. Apart from that, I don't understand your argument. I own a Mitsubishi Truck and I don't care what's under the hood, that's Mitsubishis responsibility, and that's what they are paid to do.

Just found a guy on twitter, a Barrister and Advocate, slightly pissed with samsung. It just made me smile a little.

Boy124 said:
Do you have Note without borked eMMC, screen issues and half arse ICS?
No one is whining.
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My Note is running Asylum (a CM9 build) ROM. I have had ZERO screen issues. Stock ICS isn't bad, Touchwiz definitely isn't my favorite framework, but the good thing about Android is you DO NOT have to keep it. The Note is by far my most favorite phone I've had (And I had an Iphone).
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I dare say there are lot of very satisfied customers, but that is no excuse to continue to sell defective units, which it appears there are. Also, it is not an excuse to ignore, or disadvantage the minority who do most certainly have problems with the product..
Read my profile. I do know about andoid and where it came from, and I do know what runs under the hood of the 'note. Apart from that, I don't understand your argument. I own a Mitsubishi Truck and I don't care what's under the hood, that's Mitsubishis responsibility, and that's what they are paid to do.
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You say you had FOUR Notes. Okay, what happened to EACH of them? Did you brick each one via the emmc bug? Did you NOT learn your lesson? Give me a break! If you don't want to use your Note anymore, just move on from the phone and move on from the XDA forum. I'm just saying....

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Yup, running CM9...
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Fantastic comeback
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Nexus 4 quality prediction from a Nexus 7 owner POV

As you all must have read about the Nexus 4 with everything latest and greatest and also the lowest possible price 299$ what do you guys think the hardware built quality will be like? I really love my N7 and am totally happy with it but the several issues which can be read on this forum especially not to mention the screen lift and maybe touch screen dead spots for many people is no secret. So seeing the price of N4 what do you guys think the product will be like?

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As you all must have read about the Nexus 4 with everything latest and greatest and also the lowest possible price 299$ what do you guys think the hardware built quality will be like? I really love my N7 and am totally happy with it but the several issues which can be read on this forum especially not to mention the screen lift and maybe touch screen dead spots for many people is no secret. So seeing the price of N4 what do you guys think the product will be like?
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a little bit better than n7 but i dont think it would have a nice build quality since the price is crazily low for the spec

I'm very interested in the N4 but I will definitely be waiting to see if there are any build issues before I buy. No per orders for me.
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So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%

From what I've seen, LG has built some really solid Android devices. The problem with them is their software, which is really some of the worst OEM stuff. However, since it's a Nexus device with pure AOSP, I think there's a really good chance it could be great.

CrazyPeter said:
So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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It's not a crazy question by any stretch. The fact the it has a nexus branding means it has to be approved by Google. If Google did not have a problem approving the N7 inspite of the faults just for the objective of keeping the price low why would they not do the same for LG? Unless you are suggesting LG has some magic formula for manufacturing high quality products at even a lower cost. And I know 10 people with the N7 and they all have the screen lift issue including me. So if you are telling me I can return my N7 and get it exchanged for a proper one please tell me the procedure to do so. And If you meant I should return it because of the defect then please read my first post where I mentioned I am really happy with my N7. So your 0.01% logic is a fail.

CrazyPeter said:
So you are asking if the Nexus 4, which is a different product, from a different manufacturer, designed by a different team, using different materials, built in a different factory that only shares part of it's name with the Nexus 7, will have the same issues.
Do you know how crazy that question is?
Do you also understand the concept of scale? The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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This.

jshashwat93 said:
It's not a crazy question by any stretch. The fact the it has a nexus branding means it has to be approved by Google. If Google did not have a problem approving the N7 inspite of the faults just for the objective of keeping the price low why would they not do the same for LG? Unless you are suggesting LG has some magic formula for manufacturing high quality products at even a lower cost. And I know 10 people with the N7 and they all have the screen lift issue including me. So if you are telling me I can return my N7 and get it exchanged for a proper one please tell me the procedure to do so. And If you meant I should return it because of the defect then please read my first post where I mentioned I am really happy with my N7. So your 0.01% logic is a fail.
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ynrozturk said:
This.
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This

Optimus G is supposedly beautiful and my previous LG phone, the G2x, had great hardware as well.
LG knows hardware, so build quality should be great.

Nospin said:
Optimus G is supposedly beautiful and my previous LG phone, the G2x, had great hardware as well.
LG knows hardware, so build quality should be great.
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Not used Transformer Pads but I have heard they are great too

Seems like a nice phone, but it comes without LTE, only the ATT pseudo 4g.

Groid said:
Seems like a nice phone, but it comes without LTE, only the ATT pseudo 4g.
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True, but HSPA+ is fast enough for most people out there. In fact, I get more headaches dealing with the LTE to HSPA+ handoffs. I'm really considering this for my next device.

CrazyPeter said:
The Nexus 7 has sold multiple millions of units, what percentage do you think have been returned defective? 1%? - more like 0.01%
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If the figures HERE are any indication then your figures are way out.
I think a LOT more devices are defective but as Google / Asus will never admit it, we'll never know.
LG or Lucky Goldstar as they once were make decent kit so fingers crossed.
Like the poster above, I'll not be making a pre order but I will be buying an N4 rather than an N7 with 3G

lg>asus, although nexus 4 will come out with 32gb near early next year

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I see what you tried to do there.
Key word; tried.

AznDud333 said:
lg>asus, although nexus 4 will come out with 32gb near early next year
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That's a given. 64GB with LTE later in the year.
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ynrozturk said:
I see what you tried to do there.
Key word; tried.
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Lol I was thinking the same thing. Didn't plan it that way but liked the results

[Q] So uh... what are the odds of....

.. being an early adopter, and running into huge issues? O_O this is my first Nexus device I am going to purchase, and I'm planning on ordering it day 1. Should I be weary of "defects" from a first batch or no? Has this happened previously with a Nexus PHONE? (not a tablet).
I'm planning not to "wait a couple weeks and see the reviews" because in reality, we all got the same phone, so why wait to get the SAME phone? The only difference will be knowing what the "defects" are, which I honestly don't think there will be a whole lot plagued with this..

There shouldn't be major hardware defects. Although software glitches should be expected and Google will push an update to solve those relatively quickly.
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msavic6 said:
There shouldn't be major hardware defects. Although software glitches should be expected and Google will push an update to solve those relatively quickly.
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+1
You shouldn't experience any hardware glitches

iAndropple said:
So uh... what are the odds of.... being an early adopter, and running into huge issues?
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The same with buying any other smartphone.
Every smartphone out there has flaws that get blown out of proportion when released. Huge flaws? rarely.
Still you can bet your *** that I'm not spending $349 on a device until I feel certain, through enough reviews and early adopter feedback, that the issues are minor enough that they won't bother me. Otherwise I might have to pay a $50 restocking fee when returning it

ap3604 said:
The same with buying any other smartphone.
Every smartphone out there has flaws that get blown out of proportion when released. Huge flaws? rarely.
Still you can bet your *** that I'm not spending $349 on a device until I feel certain, through enough reviews and early adopter feedback, that the issues are minor enough that they won't bother me. Otherwise I might have to pay a $50 restocking fee when returning it
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Indeed. Just think of it this way. This is the Google development phone. So it's likely Larry, Sergey, Andy Rubin and the rest of the Google team are using. If it's broke, they are going to fix it for them and quick to get it usable since, well, it's them. By product is that we will get the same fixes quite quickly Best thing this time is that we are using the exact same model as them, no weird off variants like the Verizon LTE model.

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This is the Google development phone. So it's likely Larry, Sergey, Andy Rubin and the rest of the Google team are using it.
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They probably have special editions with LTE and micro sim cards

In case of galaxy nexus, the initial units were great (as far as I know). Just wait a little over a week, see reviews from the real users, and you'll be fine.
I stumbled upon the GNex quite late, when the faulty units had already started shipping, my dilemma has been about all the screen issues with it...

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There shouldn't be major hardware defects. Although software glitches should be expected and Google will push an update to solve those relatively quickly.
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Dunno about that... If the overheating thing as reported by Anandtech is true, that's a pretty big deal hardware wise.

red12355 said:
Dunno about that... If the overheating thing as reported by Anandtech is true, that's a pretty big deal hardware wise.
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I think running about 10 benchmarking tests would get any phone "hot". I'm sure the glass has a little to do with this when almost every other phone in the category is using plastic on the back.
I don't think any of the other reviews besides anandtrch noticed the heat but I'm willing to be proven wrong.
Also, I was on the same boat as you in terms of being a day 1 purchaser, but after seeing the benchmarking results I've decided to wait a few weeks before ordering.
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I do remember back then the i9000M got the internal storage problem,
It was pretty major and you have to send it back to Bell to fix.
And I was those people who got it off a private seller too ;C

Stop the panic!

I am sewing lots of people panicking because of some issues with some devices received.
I see this with nearly every handset I have owned, especially at the beginning.
It's as though a chain reaction starts when someone has a fault, others then look for the same fault, over analyse the phone and almost will themselves in to believing a small scratch or blemish is the same thing as the original complainant.
Out of all those who had "faulty" devices, how many do you think got perfectly working devices?
Don't have a knee jerk reaction and jump ship until you actually have a major problem with your own device. Give the manufacturer a chance first.
Sorry, just had to their this out there.
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And sorry for all the spelling mistakes... Damn predictive text and lazy proof reading
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Gotta agree with everything you wrote there, I've seen folk post saying it been delayed I'm buying something else, plus the hysteria over the phone getting too hot or the ringtones ain't loud enough etc etc.

BanziBaby said:
Gotta agree with everything you wrote there, I've seen folk post saying it been delayed I'm buying something else, plus the hysteria over the phone getting too hot or the ringtones ain't loud enough etc etc.
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The ringtones ain't loud enough? Better cancel my pre-order then :silly:

riso123 said:
I am sewing lots of people panicking because of some issues with some devices received.
I see this with nearly every handset I have owned, especially at the beginning.
It's as though a chain reaction starts when someone has a fault, others then look for the same fault, over analyse the phone and almost will themselves in to believing a small scratch or blemish is the same thing as the original complainant.
Out of all those who had "faulty" devices, how many do you think got perfectly working devices?
Don't have a knee jerk reaction and jump ship until you actually have a major problem with your own device. Give the manufacturer a chance first.
Sorry, just had to their this out there.
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"Give the manufacture a chance" is easy to say if you live somewhere where these phones have reasonable price or return window or good warranty...
Here where I live it's not like that, I have to pay more than a month's income for a flagship, sometimes a 24h return window if the device has a real issue sometimes not even that, also no proper warranty for Sony devices here, So I consider myself all the right to nitpick & panic
Cheers

riginal said:
"Give the manufacture a chance" is easy to say if you live somewhere where these phones have reasonable price or return window or good warranty...
Here where I live it's not like that, I have to pay more than a month's income for a flagship, sometimes a 24h return window if the device has a real issue sometimes not even that, also no proper warranty for Sony devices here, So I consider myself all the right to nitpick & panic
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Well if you have to pay over a months income to get a flagship, why are you getting one in the first place? As with everything else in life, everything just goes the way it goes. You won't get a faulty phone, and if you do, then its meant like that and you can learn from it. Just turn everything into positives.

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Well if you have to pay over a months income to get a flagship, why are you getting one in the first place? As with everything else in life, everything just goes the way it goes. You won't get a faulty phone, and if you do, then its meant like that and you can learn from it. Just turn everything into positives.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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I have been badly burned by multiple devices in the past.
1. Sony K810i (7 years back) - found out speaker was damaged 5 days after purchase. As @riginal pointed out, I was at a place where I cannot return the device the moment I walk out of the shop. By the end of one year, everything except battery in that phone was replaced. I had bought that model several months after it was released.
2. HP DV5 1015TX Laptop (6 years ago) - replaced display 3 times over a 1.5 year period because of the same issue. Lucky that I had warranty extension.
3. Asus TF700T - If I see the guy who tested it, I will hit him with the tablet until it breaks. I am not joking.
4. Nexus 7 2013 - replaced speaker 2 months after purchase.
5. Dell XPS 9530 Laptop - paid $2000 and got a machine that makes whining sound, throttles games to unplayable FPS.
After these kind of experiences, when I got my Nexus 5, I returned it without zero hesitation twice - first because of the yellow tint and second time because of the dead pixel. There should be zero tolerance when it comes to devices. I pay expecting a fully functional product. I am not paying to be their tester. Its high time companies are penalized for releasing defective units. If they can't ensure consistent quality, at least I should get a full refund even if it is after 1 year.
If the companies cannot guarantee that there would be defects during the initial launch period, either they should offer extended warranty with the guarantee that if its a factory defect, we will get a new phone no matter when it was reported.
Edit: Added item 2.

unni_kmr said:
I have been badly burned by multiple devices in the past.
1. Sony K810i (7 years back) - found out speaker was damaged 5 days after purchase. As @riginal pointed out, I was at a place where I cannot return the device the moment I walk out of the shop. By the end of one year, everything except battery in that phone was replaced. I had bought that model several months after it was released.
2. Asus TF700T - If I see the guy who tested it, I will hit him with the tablet until it breaks. I am not joking.
3. Nexus 7 2013 - replaced speaker 2 months after purchase.
4. Dell XPS 9530 - paid $2000 and got a machine that makes whining sound, throttles games to unplayable FPS.
After these kind of experiences, when I got my Nexus 5, I returned it without zero hesitation twice - first because of the yellow tint and second time because of the dead pixel. There should be zero tolerance when it comes to devices. I pay expecting a fully functional product. I am not paying to be their tester. Its high time companies are penalized for releasing defective units. If they can't ensure consistent quality, at least I should get a full refund even if it is after 1 year.
If the companies cannot guarantee that there would be defects during the initial launch period, either they should offer extended warranty with the guarantee that if its a factory defect, we will get a new phone no matter when it was reported.
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I think you must be cursed mate [emoji50]
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kersey said:
I think you must be cursed mate [emoji50]
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I have added one more - #2.
I too often think like that - whether I am cursed or if I am being punished by God for spending money on gadgets. There were a few who didn't give me problems as well- Galaxy S2, PS4, Sony TV..

unni_kmr said:
I have added one more - #2.
I too often think like that - whether I am cursed or if I am being punished by God for spending money on gadgets. There were a few who didn't give me problems as well- Galaxy S2, PS4, Sony TV..
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But all that doesn't mean it's going to happen to you with this device. Plus you could argue that you should learn from experience and wait for the device to mature before you leap in to a purchase of a newly released flagship device.
All this strikes me as nothing more than mass hysteria still. You can't judge a device and declare it as faulty before you have it in your hand.
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SuperMarioGalaxy said:
Well if you have to pay over a months income to get a flagship, why are you getting one in the first place? As with everything else in life, everything just goes the way it goes. You won't get a faulty phone, and if you do, then its meant like that and you can learn from it. Just turn everything into positives.
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If you really want the answer for your first question I'll manage, I usually keep whatever cellphone I buy for 2-3 years and right now I have Xperia X10 & wasn't gonna upgrade but my beloved X10 finally died on me & if I buy something I want to buy the latest & the greatest so yeah I manage but that doesn't mean I can afford to buy a premium device with premium price just to see it die a week later & toss it way only because there was a gap in the device & it wasn't waterproof as advertised, So I really appreciate people here nitpicking, It helps me make my decision between this, Note 3 & M8
and what to you mean it's meant like that? turn everything into positives? do we really need to get philosophical on this? I mean seriously is it asking too much to get a solid device as advertised for the price I pay?
Anyways don't really understand the purpose of this thread, Everyone here are just stating facts & sharing their experience with the device which unfortunately happens to involve high temperature, build quality issues, low ringtone...I don't really complain or nag, actually no one does except for the op of this thread