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Darn should have got an Iphone 4!

Just kidding. Read what a blog from Ziff Davis Publishing says about "their experience" with the Iphone 4. It confirms the N1 was a great choice
hxxp://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/my-iphone-4-is-a-lemon-oh-my/7387?tag=nl.e589

Big_O said:
Just kidding. Read what a blog from Ziff Davis Publishing says about "their experience" with the Iphone 4. It confirms the N1 was a great choice
hxxp://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/my-iphone-4-is-a-lemon-oh-my/7387?tag=nl.e589
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I think the apple fanboy comments are irritating

For the Apple haters...
http://filter.start.no/humor/6299

i just did a screen comparison of my n1 next to my managers new iphone for, on identical pictures the color on the n1 is LEAPS and BOUNDS above the iphone. I will admit that the pixel density on the iphones screen is really really good, but the color reproduction? totally washed out.
AMOLED displays have amazzzzzzing color and contrast, u would think a multimedia focused device, such as an iphone would have taken that into consideration.

Sindroid said:
For the Apple haters...
http://filter.start.no/humor/6299
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Beautiful. I will share this with many.

Big_O said:
Just kidding. Read what a blog from Ziff Davis Publishing says about "their experience" with the Iphone 4. It confirms the N1 was a great choice
hxxp://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/my-iphone-4-is-a-lemon-oh-my/7387?tag=nl.e589
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To be completely fair, the antenna issue is probably what caused his calls to drop. They shouldn't have been two separate categories.

Sindroid said:
For the Apple haters...
http://filter.start.no/humor/6299
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I'd sell it on ebay or CL if I was one of them to offset the cost of nexus one.

With the hole from the 50 cal? That was great thanks Sindroid

How about microwaving an iPhone 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xC47sEXvZs

Now im not a sadist, but i always find it amusing to watch iProducts get tortured.

cr0wnest said:
Now im not a sadist, but i always find it amusing to watch iProducts get tortured.
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yeah but you might be an iSadist if you dont like seeing them destroyed

Found this picture lol thought I would share

I love this thread! makes me even more happy to have a rare nexus one in the netherlands instead of a overhyped way to expensive piece of ****

iPhone 4 is good to buy and sell on ebay to get the cash for a nexus

teihoata said:
Found this picture lol thought I would share
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rofl
10+ Chars

Zenoran said:
iPhone 4 is good to buy and sell on ebay to get the cash for a nexus
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I've got an upgrade with AT&T and was actually tempted to use it on iphone4 and then sell it on ebay. Trouble is, I've only had my N1 for about a month, and there's nothing on the horizon that I'm dying to get my hands on. Maybe the horribly large Streak...

SoberGuy said:
I've got an upgrade with AT&T and was actually tempted to use it on iphone4 and then sell it on ebay. Trouble is, I've only had my N1 for about a month, and there's nothing on the horizon that I'm dying to get my hands on. Maybe the horribly large Streak...
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That's what I did. I sold my 3gs to get the n1 for att day one. And now I bought the 4 on the 29th and sold it a week later. I was worried that there are cool phones coming to att this summer and I already used my upgrade. But looking at reports I don't see anything coming up.
My n1 does everything I need and would want. And I got a nice pocket change for the iPhone 4. And the cool thing is that my wait time was only 2 hours.

malicious85 said:
AMOLED displays have amazzzzzzing color and contrast, u would think a multimedia focused device, such as an iphone would have taken that into consideration.
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I'm sure they did consider OLED for the iPhone, but there's no way anyone could meet the supply demands. Samsung can't make them fast enough.

Jesus guys, lay off already. iPhone 4 is an amazing piece of hardware, but Android phones are released every other week, and the hardware is bound to catch up and surpass apple's. The article's author clearly has a defective iPhone, writing about it as if it had any kind of relation to all iPhones is at the very least misleading.
We all know where this is heading. The world is moving towards Open, and eventually Jobs will kill iOS with all his crazy "save people from porn" shenanigans. We don't need to act as if they were religions. It's just a fact, with Google backing it, Android will eventually win out.

All iPhones 4's are defective with their external antenna design.
The actual hardware is sweet. Unfortunately the software is all chained up and limited.

Sales still rocketing on. Will it be enough to get proper support?

I was very pleased to read this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/200000_samsung_glaxy_s_phones_sold_in_south_korea_in_10_days-news-1786.php
Considering the fact that stocks sell off like hot scones in the UK and there are even shortages, and the fact that the device is selling well in the U.S even before carrier-based versions started selling, i see a bright future for the Galaxy S platform.
If in south korea alone it sold 200,000 , and in the UK Clove, Expansys and Handtec had severe shortages untill several days ago, i'm guessing it already sold over 300-350K worldwide.
Again, even before carriers around the world started marketing it.
Now i want to see what happens after carriers around the world start selling it, if these kinds of numbers will continue to flow in, i think it's close to impossible that samsung won't support it for a prolonged period.
Share your 2 cents, i'm having great expectations right now.

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If in north korea alone it sold 200,000 ,
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Thank you, that made my day

^ Yeah, I lol at that one.
But OP, your right. This is Samsung's all out effort to gain marketshare in the smartphone area. They are #2 when it comes to feature phones (dumb phones). However, in smartphone market, they are #4 or 5. In fact, last quarter they LOST market share. Analysts have projected that in a few years, the majority of phones sold will be smartphones, so it is imperative for Samsung to gain market share and win over customers. You can not do that with products that are unsupported. I bet they got a wake up call when HTC came out of no where and gained market share quicker then Samsung did. In fact HTC (which is very small company compared to Samsung), has a greater market share than the big ol Samsung. They know for a fact that with increased relations with developers, that their handsets have gained sales. Samsung created an open source distribution website where source codes for most of their products have been released since April of this year. So that is a good positive step in the right direction. Also, we all know Samsung makes great hardware, however their software side has been less stellar. Its beginning to be changed as more money and resources are pouring into the software side.(Bada, new R&D center in India devoted to software, new emphasis by corporate to focus more money in software etc).
I hope we are right.

As far as I can see, Samsung is winning customers over HTC right now. I am one of those, and I spotted many others in the forums.
IMO the point is that HTC's success has been largely undeserved, but rather based on the efforts of people here on XDA; on the contrary, it looks like they did everything they could to make people run away screaming. Despite all the work that has been done, even developers on XDA have never found a way to get a performance from, say, the Touch HD that could at least be called acceptable, if you look at the specs. Marketing a device as the "ultimate multimedia experience" and then selling it without proper drivers, is just pure BS. And this incredible problem affected an entire range of products for at least two years.
So, I would say, HTC should be paying a much higher price than they are, for their behaviour... we'll see in the next few months. I know I sound harsh but I seriously hope they lose it. Samsung FTW

OP needs to change his topic to something less misleading. When i first glance your "bright spot" made me thought that the new phones have some defect in the screen.
I thought your post was to say that samsung sold many phones with defective "bright spots" on their screens.

Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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INeedYourHelp said:
Thank you, that made my day
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Oh my
Fixed, although i'm sure even kim jong ill wouldn't mind a galaxy s.
And now can someone please translate AndroHero's post for me? i'm having trouble trying to discern what language is that.
Anyways, now that samsung is selling masses of their flagship phone, they have to be completely retarded to not support it properly. It would be equevilant to commiting suicide.
Also, it sold a lot on their "home court", if samsung will let even koreans down, their cellular department is going to take a major hit.

AndroHero said:
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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Is that an attempt at trolling? Your post doesn't make "sense" at all, please use the stock home screen.

gabbybob said:
No, it's because you're thick; now trot on son
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Well I must be thick too, cos I also made the same mistake and thought this was a bad news post, and relieved to see it was good news.
Since you are new here, you might try giving people the benefit of the doubt.

I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?

Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.

Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Looks good to me. But I had no issue with the original title either.

TravUK said:
Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
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Should be galaxies?

mickeko said:
Should be galaxies?
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You could be right....

A great copyrighting idea just popped in my head-
Samsung can make a centeral update/app center for galaxy devices.
The name?
Samsung Universe.

samsung
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody

tellos said:
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
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Here's the link
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2010/06/ask-korean-news-apple-v-samsung.html

Interesting to read someones opinion, but that's all it is. My other half is Korean, and she, like I work in the electronics industry and we're both intimately aware of how Korean giants like Samsung operate, the key element in the Galaxy S isnt rapid turn around, its a change in corporate policy towards the design of the phone, by involving hundreds of potential users in the development stages.
I also disagree with his premise that the iPhone 4 is a 'great' product. I've had a play with an iPhone 4 and I think it suffers from Form over Function. It's actually a little uncomfortable in the hand. It may be made from glass and steel and look great, but such hard materials with squared off edges and profiles doesn't sit right in your hand.
The objects we most commonly hold in our hands are cups/mugs, pens and computer mice. They're rounded and softened, ok household mugs are ceramic from a practical materials aspect, but even a travel mug has a rubberized grip.
I just don't get the hysteria over the IP4, when I look at it I do see a photogenic object, but I also see a design fail.

Leaving the comfortability issue aside, i'm bothered by the durability aspect.
Using superhardened glass may be good against scratches, but without a shock absorbing frame of some sort, the harder the galss- the more prone to shattering it will be, and harder glass shatters more catastrophically.
"regular" hardness glass usually gets cracks or little shattered points.
Superhardened galss- it's "all or nothing". Either nothing hapeens, or it shatters completely.
Deciding to put the glass ON the frame instead of IN the frame (like previous iPhones) was a much bigger design flaw than the less-round corners IMO.
I'm hearing a lott of buzz about samsung using mostly plastic, and how "inappropreate" it is for a super high-end device, but from a pratical viewpoint-
It's durable, it's cheap and easy to replace it's comfortable, and it doesn't block reception as much as more expensive materials.

Indeed, my BlackBerry is plastic, and that's never been an issue.

Pink Galaxy Note with ICS (4.0) out today!

Friends,
Just saw that Samsung confirmed the release of New Pink Galaxy Note, with android 4.0 ICS . Does that mean, android 4.0 ics is finally officially out today or tomorrow? Sounds exciting!
http://www.gsmarena.com/pink_samsung_galaxy_note_goes_on_sale_in_south_korea-news-4072.php
and
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2935418/pink-samsung-galaxy-note-korea-available-today
Along with the phone you get a matching pink S-Pen and a folding case. Interestingly, though, the phone is running Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as can be seen by the look of that Google Search widget and notification bar. The current Galaxy Note devices, as we know, are slated to get the update sometime this quarter with a special Premium Suite of apps - gsmarena.com
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Damn i hope so ....KEEP YOU FINGER CROSSED....

That girl displaying it looks very tasty.....and erm to keep on topic gotta be a good sign ICS will be out soon enough!

if the phone's screen is not a sticker then it is actually ICS , android 4.0 !!!!!!
but what is that supposed to mean

Are the majority of galaxy note owners girls?
I'm wondering because samsung's note commercials, even apps target female population (cutting out shoes in commercials, fingernail painter, makeup app...).
Kinda strange as it's such a huge phone

namelok said:
Are the majority of galaxy note owners girls?
I'm wondering because samsung's note commercials, even apps target female population (cutting out shoes in commercials, fingernail painter, makeup app...).
Kinda strange as it's such a huge phone
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Yeah, good point

girls usually have purses. anyone notice how extremely strange that ICS looks exactly like gingerbread with touchwiz...?
#disappointment

God knows. May be samsung is making april fool this late - that could be ics domination theme.
Fingers crossed

namelok said:
Are the majority of galaxy note owners girls?
I'm wondering because samsung's note commercials, even apps target female population (cutting out shoes in commercials, fingernail painter, makeup app...).
Kinda strange as it's such a huge phone
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I think they are making a big push towards females for this phone. Mainly because males are going to be more interested at first glance. Females may not at first since most females have smaller frames/hands. It makes sense that they would have more of a push towards females to maximize sales. The Dell Streak had almost no advertising and I don't recall many females buying it. At least not on here. There might be some, but not many. I think that Note sales are stronger for this. The S pen makes it more enjoyable to use with 2 hands instead of thinking, "ugh I always have to use 2 hands". The idea is that if they can show that females with smaller hands can use it, and enjoy it, then anybody can.
This isn't really based on any real numbers or anything. The just a guess and opinion. I'm quite possibly wrong.

Reclaim said:
I think they are making a big push towards females for this phone. Mainly because males are going to be more interested at first glance. Females may not at first since most females have smaller frames/hands. It makes sense that they would have more of a push towards females to maximize sales. The Dell Streak had almost no advertising and I don't recall many females buying it. At least not on here. There might be some, but not many. I think that Note sales are stronger for this. The S pen makes it more enjoyable to use with 2 hands instead of thinking, "ugh I always have to use 2 hands". The idea is that if they can show that females with smaller hands can use it, and enjoy it, then anybody can.
This isn't really based on any real numbers or anything. The just a guess and opinion. I'm quite possibly wrong.
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I have met 4 galaxy note users in New Delhi, and all of them are females
The guys seem to be kinda scared for big phones , which is kinda strange haha

Here in Singapore, I've seen slightly more female owners than male. Most of the guys who have seen my phone say "So big? It's not pocketable!" Perhaps Asian guys generally smaller built and hence have pants with smaller pockets.

RudiRulez said:
That girl displaying it looks very tasty.....
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I think you need to get out more often...or maybe glasses

jeffs99 said:
I think you need to get out more often...or maybe glasses
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Hey whats wrong with her .
Ahh and judging by the date and time in the photo's the phone is most likely a mock up and not actually working.

does look nice !
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I think you need to get out more often...or maybe glasses
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She could make me buy a pink phone

Doesn't look like mocks... in the official Samsung website they have posted loads of pics high resolution ones...
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sharp2G said:
girls usually have purses. anyone notice how extremely strange that ICS looks exactly like gingerbread with touchwiz...?
#disappointment
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Except that the search bar is ICS.

It seems it will go on sale in the summer. https://twitter.com/#!/SamMobiles/status/189338730774011906

Reclaim said:
I think they are making a big push towards females for this phone. Mainly because males are going to be more interested at first glance. Females may not at first since most females have smaller frames/hands. It makes sense that they would have more of a push towards females to maximize sales. The Dell Streak had almost no advertising and I don't recall many females buying it. At least not on here. There might be some, but not many. I think that Note sales are stronger for this. The S pen makes it more enjoyable to use with 2 hands instead of thinking, "ugh I always have to use 2 hands". The idea is that if they can show that females with smaller hands can use it, and enjoy it, then anybody can.
This isn't really based on any real numbers or anything. The just a guess and opinion. I'm quite possibly wrong.
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Valid point.
I got it as soon as I saw 5.3" + stylus, they didn't have to convince me a lot to move from sgs2 to the note

Someone in the main ICS thread (HINT!) pointed out that the Korean Note is actually different form the N7000.

I guess it is the chinese/korean version again. But if it was released we would have firmware already in this very forum.

Should I get one?

I know this is a cliche thread, but I need to know some stuff.
I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy Tab 10.1. I'm interested in buying a Nexus 7, however, I'm worried about the screen lifting and image retention. I know it's a problem that only affect a handful of devices--but with my luck, I'll get a busted one.
I was going to buy one off of Craigslist; so, I don't think I'd be able to get a refund or exchange it with Google if there was some sort of issue.
What do you think? Should I not be worried about the image retention? That's my biggest fear.

Sell the TAB and get the N7. Don't buy it off Craigslist. If you buy it from the Play Store at least you'll have options.
Mine's perfect.

Don't be worried about image retention. And if you can, buy from the play store or make sure you examine that craigslist purchase because there won't be a return that way.
I have an Og evo, evo lte, viewsonic g-tab, and transformer prime. The Nexus has become my favorite in my short time with it. for portability, gaming , and overall badassery.
I've never had image retention on the nexus, have had it on my prime though.

ya go for it, the best part about it seems to be even tho it's still so new the dev support is just booming with tons of customs roms and addons already...and they are good too.

Yes!!! There are lots of development now and many people have found ways to fix the issues. But I didn't have any problems with mine luckily. And if you don't really want a 10 inch device and want some portable, definitely go for the Nexus 7.

I wasn't worried about Development. I got a Galaxy Nexus doods. I root everything.
I'm really not concerned with software, more or less hardware.
For those of you that don't have issues, when did you get yours?
Edit: Also, the reason I'm buying off of Craigslist is because this guy wants to trade his N7 for my Tab 10.1.

Errm, why would you buy from a 2nd hand shop if you were worried about warranty?? That makes no sense.

CrazyPeter said:
Errm, why would you buy from a 2nd hand shop if you were worried about warranty?? That makes no sense.
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I'm not worried about warranty. I'm worried about if later down the road, problems arise.

natezire71 said:
I'm not worried about warranty. I'm worried about if later down the road, problems arise.
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Well, you know, many people feel like that so some bright spark invented these things called warranties

compact_bijou said:
Well, you know, many people feel like that so some bright spark invented these things called warranties
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That's great. I'm so happy for that guy. However, it is an irrelevant thing to discuss. I'm talking about the hardware defects people have had. I couldn't really find out how widespread the screen retention/screen lifting was.

You still have your Asus hardware warranty for a year, even if it's Second Hand.
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redmonke255 said:
You still have your Asus hardware warranty for a year, even if it's Second Hand.
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Won't I need proof of purchase?

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I'm talking about the hardware defects people have had. I couldn't really find out how widespread the screen retention/screen lifting was.
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Screen lifting is by far the most common defect, and it's pretty common.
Maybe the new batches (mine were from the first and second batch) are different, but I would advise you not to buy a Nexus 7 from anywhere that will not give you hassle free exchanges.

No because they just started making them. After a year you might need proof of purchase if you needed warranty under the 1 year war.
Don't buy second hand and you have both.
Via my HTC Rezound

[gauging interest] sgp bumper

Is there anyone here who would be interested in a bumper made by SGP? I know I would! I think if we can get our voices heard on their FB page and they feel there is enough demand we can get them to make one!
go to their Facebook page and leave a comment! I would really like to make this happen as the LG and poetic bumpers are just not enough....

Yea I left a post for a bumper
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I sent them an email and a tweet enquiring about an anti-glare screen protector for the Nexus 4. Not even an acknowledgement let alone a reply. Don't really appreciate their customer service even though they have quality products.
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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!

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I'd be interested if they would make one that would be similar to the Ringke Hybrid Fusion (ie clear back in addition to the edge-protecting bumper), but I really can't see any other style worthwhile. It is amazing there aren't more similar models; clearly the back of the Nexus needs some sort of protection against minor impact and there are many who don't want to add bulk or change the aesthetic.
That said, I wrote to SCP to ask them to bring the Glas.TR high end glass screen protector to the Nexus 4. They replied, but basically shot down the idea. I'm so bloody sick of how many of the high-end accessories are only available for the iPhone! I'd like to see Glas.TR brought over to compare it to the XGear and Clarivue glass protectors (with a high-end film protector included for the back) more than a bumper, but it doesn't seem this company is very receptive to our requests so far. Still, worth it to keep trying!
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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.

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I think they will acknowledge the request as long as we can prove that there's a demand for it. That's why we should write on the fb page so we can get heard. If they only get one person asking for it they're not going to produce it as it's not worth their time to make something just for one person (or at least in their mind it's only for one person). I'm sick of all the iPhone support as well. Even the GSII and GSIII got way more accessories by SGP. All we have so far is one measly case by them.
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To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.

Elsydeon said:
To be fair, both the iPhone and Galaxy series ARE considerably more popular, actually available across all carriers, and can actually be seen being used by people. There's already a feeling of huge pent up demand for the Galaxy S4. Seeing a Nexus phone in real life is still rare as a blue moon. Case makers have to skate where the puck goes...but yes I'd love to see some of the more unique and exotic type cases SGP makes for the iPhone brought over to the Nexus 4, not this generic bland stuff that can be found with any Chinese seller on Ebay.
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Yes I understand that's the reason why they get more support. I knew that. SGP is just going where the money is just like any other case maker would but they will make a case for a phone if they know there's a demand for it. We just have to prove it.

it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.

neotekz said:
it's kinda late to be asking companies to make cases for the phone we going to get a new nexus in 5-6 months. i think if companies waited this long then they are not going to start making them now. Has any of these petitions worked for the nexus 4? i see so many of these threads but none with any real results.
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the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.

kcbboy said:
the next Nexus won't be till Nov/Dec. That's more than 5 to 6 months away. Whether it works or not it's better to try than not try.
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i must of been thinking about how long since the phone has been out but i dont agree that it's better to try. If companies like sgp and otterbox dont make cases for the nexus then ill buy it somewhere else, it's their lost not mine. I had the sgp hydrid for my galaxy nexus and imo it is not better than my poetic(didnt have any of the peeling issues people reported) and have a LG bumper on the way. these petitions never work anyways so you are just wasting time. Petition with your wallet instead of facebook. I've stop buying any otterbox cases since they tend to focus mostly on the iphone(their iphone case is always nicer than any android version) and now i wont buy from sgp again either.