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Is it just me or after a few hours of use does TAJB's Jellybean rom become incredible slow and sluggish? I know its still in early development but its only an incremental update from ICS which seems to be stable (for the most part) but sometimes its just goes crazy on JellyBean despite the Project Butter enahncement. Im starting to think that these new versions of Android are startin to push the boundaries for our tired old Galaxy S1's :S
The hardware of the SGS1 is old and outdated its just something we have to come to terms with. After using other phones with official ICS I understand why the SGS hasn't been supported, so I'm guessing its much the same with JB..
I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
driodmaster92 said:
I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
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Yeah ive been using that too, its only slightly more responsive but still get the same problems. especially if i try to use google voice, the thing just goes berzerk.
I'm yet on unofficial CM10 v2 and it's very smooth, I fell diffrence than ics.
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I am using the cm10 unofficial its smooth as hell
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+1 :good:
It's the launcher, most likely. I ran into that problem as well.
I'm on iall5tar's GNex ROM 4.1.1 Port and it's smoother than ICS, which was already fairly impressive.
Our i9000's are old, but each software upgrade is just that—an upgrade. JB is better than ICS, and ICS was better than GB. We didn't get the official update because Samsung thought their Touchwiz skinned ICS wouldn't run on our hardware. In reality, it was likely because they didn't want to spend money updating a device they no longer sold. Not because our phones couldn't actually run it.
My phone has no been faster than it is now, with JB. Blame the ROM, not the OS or the hardware.
After coming from slim ics 4.2 I also noticed slowdowns almost everywhere such as app opening, entering settings etc. On the other hand I felt the same with early and not so early ics roms like icssgs, and always went to gb roms after day or two because of slowdowns, lack of toggles etc.
Then I tried slim ics 3.x and never looked back. Same will probably happen with jb, first builds are ummature but when devs look deeper into sources and find differences and optimization for sgs, the phone will be beast
I just hope there will be other option for handling the limited space in internal flash memory than removing datadata altogether, as jb seems to improve touch and animation smoothness there is little Google can do to improve I/O performance.
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JB is not the end!
Hey Guys
I am using JB at the Moment, too (TAJB v6). I tested every JB ROM for our SGS from start, and in my opinion, the GNex ports were the fastest and also very stable, but unfortunately, the people want to move forward to CM10! Anyway, JB is definetly not too much for the SGS! Everything feels fast and smooth, exept of the randomly occuring super-launcher-lags. If this happens, just kill the Launcher Task or reboot. I think JB is not the last update for our SGS!
The clue in most cases lies in the term Alpha! You flash Alpha roms you are in effect becoming a tester, so don't grumble....work towards finding solutions and posting relevant feedback and bug reports
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The clue in most cases lies in the term Alpha! You flash Alpha roms you are in effect becoming a tester, so don't grumble....work towards finding solutions and posting relevant feedback and bug reports
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this slowness is because v6 is based on pawitp's CM10 build which has datadata deleted and used instead of it slower data/data.
try derteufel's JellyBean v2 - it works like a charm!
[jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12)
I'm on [jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12) since yesterday and it is still smooth as babyskin. No slowing down trouble.
Only issue is my BLN does not work anymore, probably because of one little setting
Fixed the BLN issue,I had to RTFM Enable pulsating notification light.
Found one other issue, volume during phone call is loud and cannot be changed.
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I'm on [jRO03C] OFICIAL ANDROID 4.1.1 (JELLY BEAN) GNEX STOCK ROM (16/07/12) since yesterday and it is still smooth as babyskin. No slowing down trouble.
Only issue is my BLN does not work anymore, probably because of one little setting
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For those with lots of lag I recommend flashing again. I was on CM10 Alpha and it was super slow. Couldn't believe people were saying it was fast. Flashed Slim Beans which was also slow. Figured either people are crazy or it's me. Even read something about older phones having slower memory than newer ones etc.
Flashed Slim Beans a second time and this time there is no comparison. Now it is much faster. In fact it is almost like having a different phone.
I'm on [ROM GNEXUS PORT] jro03c 4.1.1 beta 4 [oficial jelly bean stock rom] and at first it's sluggish as hell...after a while it does begin to work a little bit smoother....but then again, it's nothing compared to other ICS 4.0.3-4.0.4 custom roms out there....it still needs a lot of work.
It has nothing to do with datadata and everything to do with the fact that project butter hasn't even been implemented yet. For example I use slim and it is super fast, it has no datadata.
Also we need a driver update and until we get that no butter for us.
Plus its an alpha build. Give it a break.
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vSync is not working yet. Also all JB releases are currently signed "Alpha" or "Beta", so what do you expect? They are not (yet) made for being used as a daily driver. Thanks to the devs, the development will continue
BTW: I also tried all current JB ROMs but they are still too unstable for me. It's nice to see that the i9000 can run them but actually they are not that stable yet.
yea it`s slow
i`m using JR003C it seems so slow and the network signal is down sometimes..:confused
There is a fix for the slow V6 on teamjellybean.noez.in but this is down for now... Wait for V7 and it will be smooth i think.
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this slowness is because v6 is based on pawitp's CM10 build which has datadata deleted and used instead of it slower data/data.
try derteufel's JellyBean v2 - it works like a charm!
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no its not i've tested the one with datadata and the one without there is no difference
Just starting this to see what all the hype is around Jelly Bean
Maybe the performance
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Just starting this to see what all the hype is around Jelly Bean
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poSFV9_abcw Check this out.
It has "Butter", they made the animations smoother.
The notifications in the drop down are also different, they can now contain more lines of text.
It is numerically superior to ICS (4.1 vs 4.0). Lol joke...
I guess the most anticipated feature is probably project butter, which ramps up the interface to 60 fps, eliminating the occasional stutter we see in ICS right now. Hopefully this will deliver a true lag free experience for our sgs
At this stage? It can make non rooted users jealous while they wait for an official version
Is just me or is Jelly Bean actually slower than ICS on HD2?
Easiest way to test this is by pulling down notification bar. In ICS it's smooth and it catches up with your finger. However in Jelly Bean you can see it lags behind your finger slightly.
Is that caused by builds that are not completely ready yet or is our HD2's hardware simply becoming too slow for Project Butter awesomeness?
I think devs still need to work on jb, since there are a lot of bugs. Ics is much older so it became really perfect(nexus hd2).
Anyway, maybe I'm wrong but jb is lighter than ics.
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Is just me or is Jelly Bean actually slower than ICS on HD2?
Easiest way to test this is by pulling down notification bar. In ICS it's smooth and it catches up with your finger. However in Jelly Bean you can see it lags behind your finger slightly.
Is that caused by builds that are not completely ready yet or is our HD2's hardware simply becoming too slow for Project Butter awesomeness?
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The project butter is just a nexus optimization, so on other devices jb is only a heavier ics. Without a right adaption of the code we can't get benefit from project butter specially if it is strictly hardware related
Hey XDA,
Alright first things first, this ISNT a ' which rom is the best ' thread.
I wanna know which android version is more stable for everyday use. I know some people say gingerbread is the fastest and absolute best BUT i want to know which out of Jelly Bean and Ice Cream Sandwich is better. Is Jelly Bean fast? Bugfree? Comparable to GB on the HD2?
Thanks in advance
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i want to know which out of Jelly Bean and Ice Cream Sandwich is better.
Is Jelly Bean fast? Bugfree?
Comparable to GB on the HD2?
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In my opinion, ICS is as smooth as Android can be on our old HD2, it is also fast. But sometimes it just hangs, like, when doing heavy stuff it can freeze (obviously).
On the other hand, jelly bean varies depending on which ROM and which version (still, based on my opinion).
As for version 4.1, it wasn't as smooth as ICS used to be (for me), it was fast, but not smooth, and yes, we do have HWA on JB and ICS.
For version 4.2, I had two experiences (which I couldn't find a reasonable explanation for).
I tried two ROMs: tytung's NexusHD2 and seaman2k's SeaJB.
I had an opposite experience from both. tytung's was fast, but not smooth, whereas seaman's was smooth but not fast. I know that that might not make much sense, so let me explain.
On seaman's, pulling down the notification's bar seems smooth and fluid, but on tytung's it kind of stutters and lags. But on tytung's, apps performance and launching speed was fast, on seaman's it was relatively slower.
I think the difference is because that seaman's is a port, while tytung's is built from source.
If you want to know whether a version is bugfree or not, just check some of the roms available. Roms with the same version are likely to have the same problem (if any). ICS and JB 4.1 are bug free as far as I know, but JB 4.2 has some issues with the camera (although I faced non, since I use a 3rd party cam app, and I don't record videos).
On GB, you might get the smooth and responsiveness, your device will also be stable (i.e. no sudden hangs or freezes like in ICS or JB) but since GB doesn't have HWA, it won't perform as good as in JB or ICS. I mean web browsing, running apps and playing games.
This was all based on my opinion. Feel free to do your own research.
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Thanks man for very details. I tried many roms before. I'm using JB 4.2.2 now but still want to come back GB. With clean rom everything is smooth, fast until install some apps.
Do you try MIUI? It's very good but get heavy battery drain with my phone & don't have soft button. I love MIUI theme, icons, call recorder, file manager, ...
This is my opinion.
Thanks.
Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.