Samsung is lying about ICS update - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hello everyone,
Samsung is releasing DUAL SIM card phone Galaxy S Duos phone (S7562).
Specs:
Additionally, the phone has Android 4.0, 1GHz CPU, 512MB RAM, 3G, 4-inch 800×480 display, 5 megapixel camera, Wi-Fi, GPS, microSD card slot and 1500mAh battery.
The same specs as our SGS have. With only 512 RAM and it will be ICS out of the box.
So our SGS capable of running Touchwized ICS.
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/07/30/samsung-to-launch-dual-sim-galaxy-s-duos/

The I9000 (SGS Amoled with Samsung SoC) is advertised as 512Mb Smartphone, like the I9003 (SGS LCD with Texas Instrument SoC) also. The I9000 have physically 512Mb RAM in the SoC, the 9003 have 640Mb, and you can see this difference between Stock Samsung ROM in 2.3.6 and the 128 Mb make a difference with LMK usage. End of story.

.Slane. said:
The I9000 (SGS Amoled with Samsung SoC) is advertised as 512Mb Smartphone, like the I9003 (SGS LCD with Texas Instrument SoC) also. The I9000 have physically 512Mb RAM in the SoC, the 9003 have 640Mb, and you can see this difference between Stock Samsung ROM in 2.3.6 and the 128 Mb make a difference with LMK usage. End of story.
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Does i9003 getting official ICS? If not, than samsung is lying about the i9003

Samsung doesn't care about customers on long term stages the only interesed that you buy new deveices every year.Apple is much better at this stage they care about it that their devices are updated and users satisfided.
So If you don't like apple you can buy nexus device this device is also up to date.

zmagas1 said:
Does i9003 getting official ICS? If not, than samsung is lying about the i9003
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Sales of i9003 are very different of i9000. And people who doesn't care to have a 9003 (SLCD, less powerful GPU, etc. etc. than i9000) mainly doesn't care to have Android 4.x instead of 2.3.x because their smartphone WORKS in 2.3.x. If you want a bleeding edge smartphone, go with the Nexus line, not a consumer line. Period.

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Could the samsung galaxy Droid OS be ported to the Wave 8500?

The Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Wave s8500 are practically twins with the Galaxy S using a bigger screen and the Android OS.
Problem is the Android Powered Samsung Galaxy S is almost two times the cost of the samsung wave s8500!
Now i dont know whether this is a tactical ploy by samsung to promote its own inhouse BADA operating system but the price difference between the two phones is really an eye opener.
The good android phones and the Iphones are a bit too expensive for my taste costing as much as an entry level laptop.
Now samsung came up with the Samsung Wave s8500 which has all the power of the More expensive Smasung galaxy S
yet at only 60 percent of the price.
granted the samsung galaxy s has a larger screen and uses Android but thats about it.
- Both phones use the The 1ghz hummingbird processor
- (Cortex A8 processor PLUS a powervr sgx 535.. much better combo than the qualcomm snapdragon processor)
- Both Phones have 5 meg cameras PLUS 720p recording
- Both use super Amoled Screens with the bigger screen going to to the Samsung galaxy S
- Both have 512mb of system memory
- I just dont get it why the Samsung Galaxy S costs almost twice the samsung wave 8500
- Maybe Samsung did this intentionally knowing most people would go for the cheaper yet identically spec-ed phone suppoting their own BAda OS.
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Still since the hardware under the hood is so similar is it possible to port the Android OS from the samsung galaxy to the samsung wave 8500?
I just like the samsung wave's price better
(prices for Samsung galaxy s in my country 32,000 pesos or 687.433 USD
Samsung Wave S8500 in my country 18,300 pesos or 393.464 USD

512MB SLC Nand, [ (256+128)MB LPDDR + 128MB Nand ] OneNand + 16GB Movinand

Can anyone who has done i9000 teardown confirm if this analysis is correct?
512MB SLC Nand, and (384MB LPDDR [2 piece 166Mhz Mobile DDR] + 128 MB Nand) OneNand, all packaged on a MPC with the PowerVr+Hummingbird core.
Then a 16GB piece MoviNand (samsung's version of MLC based eMMC), all manufactured by samsung.
If it's right, then all the galaxy s phones (i9000(m), vibrant, captivate.. etc) only have 512MB of true fast Nand rom, could be the cause of the lag issues.
Although I don't have a teardown of the Fascinate and Epic, I'd assume they are the same as the GSM versions, with the exception of a 1GB/2GB MLC nand replacing the 16GB MoviNand (ie. they have only 512MB SLC Nand too).
Samsung is very smart when it comes to lowering the BoM and ip costs in building this high spec android phone.
By comparison, SE Xperia X10 has a 2x512MB (1GB total) fast Micron SLC Nand rom, 3 piece 384MB of LPDDR (166Mhz, x16*2+x32) higher bandwidth than i9000's. Nand + Ram made by Micron (which makes superior ic's compared to samsung).
HD2, and Sprint Evo 4G all have the same MCP made by Hynix; Google Nexus One and Htc desire share a MCP made by samsung, even though they have different specified Ram amounts (512MB vs 576MB), could be caused by the different allocations of available OneNand?
It is very likely, that the minimum requirement for Android 3.o is not 512MB ram, but 512MB rom, (Android, like Maemo, is very good at memory management). I'd say that the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is actually more "future proof" than the i9000, and the HTC phones released so far.
I'm curious too. I thought this phone had 512MB of RAM...
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As described in the lag fix topics! is that they are not using slow nand but the filesystem is causing the lag!
Out of curiosity, what does your nickname stand for.. Sony Ericsson MC? There is a blog I noticed called SEMC.. I only ask because it clearly creates a conflict of interest for you to decide between both devices fairly.
NAND imho is considered to be flash, not RAM. Samsung officially said that they had 512MB RAM, and they seem to consider NAND to be flash too. In the case this unit didn't have 512MB LPDDR, it would mean they lied during the announcement: http://www.samsung.com/ph/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19925&gltype=globalnews , as the OneNAND/MoviNand site differentiates between flash and RAM too. I have emailed them though to ask specifically.
In regards to Micron vs Samsung RAM quality, to be honest, when working at an apple reseller, we didn't really have trouble with either. Both are fine, and Apple themselves went through various types of RAM (including Hynix and Samsung). We didn't notice any serious issues with either. Perhaps there is a difference when overclocking, but I hardly imagine anyone will use the phones after overclocking them much (although, someone already overclocked theirs to 1.6GHZ). Overclocking eats up battery life...
You forget that the i9000 has a MUCH faster GPU (90million triangles vs the X10 one), 802.11n, BT3 and REAL multitouch (if the SE gets multitouch, it will be a shonky hack with serious flaws that make it unusable for anything but pinching gestures). Where did you get your teardown specs from? Anyway, the truth of the matter, is that it depends what you need to do. But in almost any synthetic benchmark at the moment (not that they matter), Galaxy S is ahead.
It doesn't matter how great the X10 is anyway, because by the time it gets 2.1, Android 3 will probably be out. In fact, knowing Sony Ericson, you'll be lucky to get 2.2 (used to own a K750i, which was a W800 with crippled software, thanks Sony Ericcson). Honestly, Android 1.6 is close-to-ancient, and no developer is going to seriously buy a phone which runs such an old version of Android still (2.0, possibly, 2.1 yeah ok, 2.2... YAAAAAA).
So theoretically, maybe (I haven't seen the proof myself though). But, in reality, I'd expect the Galaxy S to have a longer useful timespan.. The X10 was announced 9 months ago. Google coded at least 2 major versions of Android within that time (and performed full QA too). So, the X10 is certainly NOT a phone I'd recommend. Whether or not it supports it, it is unlikely Sony ericsson will port Android 3 to it. They still haven't even ported Android 2.x to it yet, and it is their flagship Android mobile phone. And the X10 likely never attracted the kind of people who will port Android 3 by themselves, because they are also the kind of people who were unimpressed with the version of Android it shipped with.
Oh, and by the way, the lag likely isn't because of the RAM. There seems to be other factors at play (bad scheduling for instance would explain why GPS also goes funky sometimes, music skips at the beginning using doubletwist and the lag).
I think the OP was just using the Xperia for illustrative purposes. No one who has used both units will make a qualitative comparison between the X10 and the Galaxy S, which is in a different league.
Ultimately, it was not just Android 1.6 that made me sell my X10, but its horrible call quality, low 384Mb RAM (not so good for Gingerbread, which SE might never release anyway), and mediocre touch sensors that did it. It's a shame because with some tweaks, the X10 could have been spectacular. I do love its external design, 854x480 res., and excellent camera.
andrewluecke said:
(although, someone already overclocked theirs to 1.6GHZ). Overclocking eats up battery life...
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Source? I read that the cpu is capable of going to 1.6ghz, but I haven't read anyone actually OC to 1.6ghz.
In Canada, the retail prices between the Galaxy S ($500) and the Xperia 10 ($550) are actually laughable. Rogers and SE will have to do a BIG price drop ASAP.
INeedYourHelp said:
Source? I read that the cpu is capable of going to 1.6ghz, but I haven't read anyone actually OC to 1.6ghz.
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You are correct.. Must have read the headline from Reddit or something dodgy.
Also, I don't think the poster is using the Xperia X10 as an example, because he posted the same message, but also on the Xperia X10 board.. By the sounds of things, he could be working on an article (in which case he should probably pull the phones apart himself), or it sounds a tad like marketing. Or possibly neither...
Here is interesting reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752617
Saying that the X10 is ahead of the SGS is plain wrong, that device it self has NO support for multi-touch and wont be getting one anytime soon.
SEMC said:
Can anyone who has done i9000 teardown confirm if this analysis is correct?
512MB SLC Nand, and (384MB LPDDR [2 piece 166Mhz Mobile DDR] + 128 MB Nand) OneNand, all packaged on a MPC with the PowerVr+Hummingbird core.
Then a 16GB piece MoviNand (samsung's version of MLC based eMMC), all manufactured by samsung.
If it's right, then all the galaxy s phones (i9000(m), vibrant, captivate.. etc) only have 512MB of true fast Nand rom, could be the cause of the lag issues.
Although I don't have a teardown of the Fascinate and Epic, I'd assume they are the same as the GSM versions, with the exception of a 1GB/2GB MLC nand replacing the 16GB MoviNand (ie. they have only 512MB SLC Nand too).
Samsung is very smart when it comes to lowering the BoM and ip costs in building this high spec android phone.
By comparison, SE Xperia X10 has a 2x512MB (1GB total) fast Micron SLC Nand rom, 3 piece 384MB of LPDDR (166Mhz, x16*2+x32) higher bandwidth than i9000's. Nand + Ram made by Micron (which makes superior ic's compared to samsung).
HD2, and Sprint Evo 4G all have the same MCP made by Hynix; Google Nexus One and Htc desire share a MCP made by samsung, even though they have different specified Ram amounts (512MB vs 576MB), could be caused by the different allocations of available OneNand?
It is very likely, that the minimum requirement for Android 3.o is not 512MB ram, but 512MB rom, (Android, like Maemo, is very good at memory management). I'd say that the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is actually more "future proof" than the i9000, and the HTC phones released so far.
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Sorry to thread necro, but I'm from the Samsung Epic 4G forums and just ran across your thread because it was linked in an RFS vs EXT4 debate that's been raging for the last week or so.
I believe that you're close in your hardware analysis, the Galaxy S phones have 384 MB of LPDDR (I theorized DDR-400) but I believe instead of 128 MB of NAND, it's actually 128 MB of OneDRAM, which is a Samsung high-speed hybrid memory solution. I've seen teardowns that described a mystery NAND module and I'm pretty sure the OneDRAM is it.
Anyhow, here's my thread about it: I think it's likely that the I9000 uses more or less the same RAM configuration.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886793
Sorry for bringing this up but it is the only revelant thread to my question..Along with the SGS I also have a Desire HD.I noticed in quadrant (I know it doesn't count but I'm just being curious) that in memory benchmark the SGS scores about 1800 points while the DHD 1000-1100..Assuming they're both equipped with LPDDR1 memory modules, what favours the SGS to have better performance?

Xperia X10 is more future proof than galaxy s

From teardown of i9000, it has:
512MB SLC Nand, and (384MB LPDDR + 128 MB [2 piece 166Mhz Mobile DDR] ) OneNand, all packaged on a MPC with the PowerVr+Hummingbird core.
Then a 16GB piece MoviNand (samsung's version of MLC based eMMC), all manufactured by samsung.
If it's right, then all the galaxy s phones (i9000(m), vibrant, captivate.. etc) only have 512MB of true fast Nand rom, could be the cause of the lag issues.
Although I don't have a teardown of the Fascinate and Epic, I'd assume they are the same as the GSM versions, with the exception of a 1GB/2GB MLC nand replacing the 16GB MoviNand (ie. they have only 512MB SLC Nand too).
Samsung is very smart when it comes to lowering the BoM and ip costs in building this high spec android phone.
By comparison, SE Xperia X10 has a 2x512MB (1GB total) fast Micron SLC Nand rom, 3 piece 384MB of LPDDR (166Mhz, x16*2+x32) higher bandwidth than i9000's. Nand + Ram made by Micron (which makes superior ic's compared to samsung).
HD2, and Sprint Evo 4G all have the same MCP made by Hynix; Google Nexus One and Htc desire share a MCP made by samsung, even though they have different specified Ram amounts (512MB vs 576MB), could be caused by the different allocations of available OneNand?
It is very likely, that the minimum requirement for Android 3.o is not 512MB ram, but 512MB rom, (Android, like Maemo, is very good at memory management). I'd say that the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is actually more "future proof" than the i9000, and the HTC phones released so far.
hopefully what you analyzed is true! I really don't want 2.1 to be the last software update on my X10.
SEMC said:
It is very likely, that the minimum requirement for Android 3.o is not 512MB ram, but 512MB rom, (Android, like Maemo, is very good at memory management). I'd say that the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is actually more "future proof" than the i9000, and the HTC phones released so far.
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You had me until here. There is no "minimum requirement" listed for Android 3.0, since it hasn't been announced yet.
iead1 said:
You had me until here. There is no "minimum requirement" listed for Android 3.0, since it hasn't been announced yet.
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No, the next version of android hasn't been officially announced, but I think you'll find that future android devices running high end branch of android from SE (and other manufactures) will at least 1GB of nand rom.
SE Xperia X10 has a 2x512MB (1GB total) fast Micron SLC Nand rom
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can anyone explain me this part .....
For example, an OMAP4440 based 864*480 (Sharp panel for SE, a first i think ) device that's in the works ...
This may be pulling the strings bit too far but are U max from esato?
If yes, is there any truth in the psp phone rumor? Also, what are the next devices, the X10 successors lined up for in terms of Processor and GPU?
Also the galaxy S has a better CPU and GFX card, so the better RAm in the X10 wont do to make it more future proof.
Yes, SE will release Gingerbread for X10 in 2013 - after the machines take over.
More than any device specs holding back updates for existing phones is that SE & others don't want to give you a free update. Why would they want to provide you with a update to prolong the life of your phone, when they could sell you or your provider a new one for actual money . Future proof is a myth built in obsolescence is the reality.
Am I correct in assuming you are associated with Sony Ericcson somehow (SE-MC as your nick)? I only ask because it clearly creates a conflict of interest for you to decide between both devices fairly.
NAND imho is considered to be flash, not RAM. Samsung officially said that they had 512MB RAM. In the case this unit didn't have 512MB LPDDR, it would mean they lied during the announcement: http://www.samsung.com/ph/news/newsR...ype=globalnews , as the OneNAND/MoviNand site differentiates between flash and RAM too. I have emailed them though to ask specifically.
We never really had issues with Micron or Samsung RAM at the Apple reseller I worked at. Micron might possibly be better, but you probably wont notice any differences unless you start over-clocking.
You forget that the i9000 has a MUCH faster GPU (90million triangles vs the X10 one), 802.11n, BT3 and REAL multitouch. Also, if you are writing an article, shouldn't you perform your own teardown so you can be 100% sure of what you are writing about? Anyway, in almost any synthetic benchmark at the moment (not that they matter), Galaxy S is ahead. The X10 however is probably ahead in photo quality.
Both phones are suited towards different audiences really, and both have their own benefits. I'd expect the Galaxy S to have a longer useful timespan though.. Sony Ericsson 9 months after announcement have announced plenty of new phones, but haven't even updated Android to 2.0. They clearly have the resources, but their priorities seem to be capturing more of the market, rather than helping their existing customers. If anything, SE's attitude suggests A3 wont be ported to the X10. The X10 likely never attracted the kind of people who will port Android 3 by themselves either (1.6 is too old for developers). Sony Ericsson also have a strong history of using software to upsell customers.
Anyway, it depends on what your requirements are. Neither Sony Ericsson nor Samsung are known for great long term software support, ROM's for Froyo have already been leaked by Samsung for the Galaxy S, whereas, there is very little evidence that SE are actively working on upgrading theirs (seriously, by now they should have at least gotten 2.0).
Despite my uses for a camera Flash, I ended up settling on the Galaxy S though. It's up to people to make their own choice, but I personally believe that the SE is the better long term choice.
Yes, SE will release Gingerbread for X10 in 2013 - after the machines take over.
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Impossible cause the worlds gonna end in 2012. No Gingerbread for us x10 users.
Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk
se_dude said:
is there any truth in the psp phone rumor? Also, what are the next devices, the X10 successors lined up for in terms of Processor and GPU?
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Not very likely is it, with psp neXt gen coming . The 2 divisions operates quite independently. However, an android device (running a 'high end' branch of android ) is currently in internal testing, based on TI's OMAP4400 series, and paired with LPDDR2 I believe, since the performance put that of samsung's i9000 to shame. I don't know if this is the *supposed* psp phone, but it does have an unusually wide aspect ratio screen (864*480) which could suggest a gaming 'portal' is coming to select future se devices.
andrewluecke said:
NAND imho is considered to be flash, not RAM. Samsung officially said that they had 512MB RAM. In the case this unit didn't have 512MB LPDDR, it would mean they lied during the announcement: http://www.samsung.com/ph/news/newsR...ype=globalnews , as the OneNAND/MoviNand site differentiates between flash and RAM too. I have emailed them though to ask specifically.
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Nand is not 'considered' to be flash, it is flash. OneNand is just a mcp with 'flash' + ram. The problem is, on samsung mobile's own devices, i9000 in particular, are some custom mcp's that are not publicly available. There are some mcp's used here which have comparable public offerings (from samsung semi), the application processor for example; but even they are slightly different. Making analysis a bit painful, some purely based on experience.
I have a X10a but let's face it.
Galaxy S is the better smartphone now and will be in Q4 too.
While X10 will run 2.1, Galaxy S will run 2.2 which will give better performance.
Who cares about long distant future?
Next year, this time, probably only 20% of the current X10 'geek' owners will still have the X10.
The rest will move to better smartphones 1.2Ghz, 1.5Ghz, dual core, etc.
The usual, non geek, owner won't care anyway if he has 1.6, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, etc as hong as he can make calls, listen a few mp3s and take some nice snapshots.
Even the galaxy s has a life span so don't think that it will get 3.0 since Samsung support stinks
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If Android 3.0 will be "standalone" (only rumour yet) you dont need SE to install it in the X10.
Yes, the i9000 have better specifications, better graphic card, but and the construction? next year, half will had problems... they are having problems now.
I have changed HTC to SE because of all the problems i had with HTC, GPS no working, vibrate not working, etc etc... i'm tired of these problems.
consolation said:
Yes, SE will release Gingerbread for X10 in 2013 - after the machines take over.
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At 8:30 am, SE became self aware.
anjo2 said:
If Android 3.0 will be "standalone" (only rumour yet) you dont need SE to install it.
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Not with with a locked bootloader you won't!
andrewluecke said:
You forget that the i9000 has a MUCH faster GPU (90million triangles vs the X10 one)
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Bah... you should consider stopping repeating other people's **** when it makes no sense.
According to those numbers, that phone is like 2 times faster than a GameCube
Now if you look at GLBenchmark, it's not quite 90 millions per second, but more like 7 millions textured triangles per second while the snapdragon seems to cap at around 2 millions in all tests, and the older power VR in the droid does 2.5 millions.
The Galaxy S is thus quite faster in those benchmark.
Now that's a benchmark, in actual games/apps, you don't care about that, what you want is your framerate to stay higher than 30fps, and in this case what you get is more like 30.000 textured and lit tris per frame max on a snapdragon (X10), 37.000 tris on a PowerVR (moto droid) and around 65.000 on a Galaxy S.
So it's certainly faster like a bit more than 2 times faster than the older snapdragon, but those "90 millions triangles per second" are totally made up.
SEMC said:
Nand is not 'considered' to be flash, it is flash. OneNand is just a mcp with 'flash' + ram. The problem is, on samsung mobile's own devices, i9000 in particular, are some custom mcp's that are not publicly available. There are some mcp's used here which have comparable public offerings (from samsung semi), the application processor for example; but even they are slightly different. Making analysis a bit painful, some purely based on experience.
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Or assumptions/guessing, as it seems to be in this case..

Galaxy s 7562... or how Samsung tricked us..

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php
Incoming new galaxy s model...yet one in a million of galaxies ... But this one coming with official ics rom and poor hardware... So Sammy dont tell us bad excuses about our hardware cant handle ics...
sent from the other side of my Galaxy
Gusta_HR said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php
Incoming new galaxy s model...yet one in a million of galaxies ... But this one coming with official ics rom and poor hardware... So Sammy dont tell us bad excuses about our hardware cant handle ics...
sent from the other side of my Galaxy
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Yes yes we all know but we can`t do anything about it
Has more RAM than Galaxy S. They were both advertised as 512 MB but Galaxy S had 512 physical memory while Duo probably has 640 MB physical. Think i9000 and i9003.
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ballsofsteel said:
Has more RAM than Galaxy S. They were both advertised as 512 MB but Galaxy S had 512 physical memory while Duo probably has 640 MB physical. Think i9000 and i9003.
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130 mb cant be that hard to overcame if they wanted.
Pezmet said:
130 mb cant be that hard to overcame if they wanted.
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That is true for high RAM devices like Galaxy S II, as there is still plenty of RAM left, but 128 MB is actually a significant difference for low RAM devices like ours. The HTC Desire with 576 MB RAM (64 MB more than Galaxy S) couldn't even get a proper Gingerbread update due to RAM shortages as they had to fit Sense in. Imagine Galaxy S with 4.0 and Touchwiz? It's "impossible", by that I mean you won't even be able to multitask and run the device properly with all that Samsung bloat on top of it.
Galaxy S would run an AOSP properly because it is nowhere near as bloated as Touchwiz but no manufacturer (except google) has released such an update.
Also, keep in mind the issues we just ran into with our phones' jellybean update. The faster NAND on the device is limited; I guess this is just bad foresight on samsung's part. Raw ICS/Jellybean was already too big to fit onto the NAND. Put in Touchwiz apps and customizations and you need a much bigger NAND to fit it all in.

[Q] buying s4?

Hello,
i want a amoled screen for my next phone, with complete options, infrared, nfc, wirless charging (it optional but exist), 2 Gb og ram, removable battery, sd card slot, and for its accesoiry.. etc
i think that s4 answer to my needs.
But, i hesitate because of stocks updates, its 2013 models, and become old!
My question is if s4 is still worth this position on the 2015, and if there is equivalent new phone (full option) to him, for 300 euro budget
Thank for your answers and sorry for english
OTA_ said:
Hello,
i want a amoled screen for my next phone, with complete options, infrared, nfc, wirless charging (it optional but exist), 2 Gb og ram, removable battery, sd card slot, and for its accesoiry.. etc
i think that s4 answer to my needs.
But, i hesitate because of stocks updates, its 2013 models, and become old!
My question is if s4 is still worth this position on the 2015, and if there is equivalent new phone (full option) to him, for 300 euro budget
Thank for your answers and sorry for english
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GT-I9515 (GALAXY S4 VE) in my opinion :highfive:.
Well, the S4 GT-I9506 seems to have hardware that can somewhat match the latest models
S4 GT-I9506 specs:
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
CPU : Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
GPU : Adreno 330
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
And in comparison, the S5 specs:
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
As you can see, there is not a huge difference. The newer chipset model and 200Hz more processing power. But I don't think those 200Hz will make any big impact on performance. If it's going to be any performance differences then it's because of the newer chipset and maybe ram speeds.
Though the normal S4 GT-I9505 is still a good competitor today. Many people still use it as you can probably see by the activity on this forum.
It can still keep up with today's requirements. And it will for another 1-2 years at least.
If developers made apps only for the high-end smartphones then only those who can afford those kind of phones can use the app. And that's just not profitable for them, right?

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