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Quad core asus tablet announced , would you upgrade

A the title says Asus announced a quad core Nvidia tegra 3 tablet ,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/ personally if I get icecream sandwich I won't upgrade . What do you think ?
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.

Tivo7 said:
Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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like you I'm very tempted esp after seeing the pics of the new Transformer Prime. If I don't do an impulsive purchase, I'll wait to see if Samsung is going to release a Quadcore GTab.

If it's thinner, lighter and price-wise = or cheaper than the GT then hell yeah!

not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195

Maybe in a year or two, but I don't feel the need to update just because there's a newer faster Tablet on the horizon. I bought my Tab for what it's capable of doing right now.

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not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195
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On the emulator they found the tablet interface so ICS IS DESIGNED FOR TABLETS ALSO see the vudeo on engadget
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.

BarryH_GEG said:
Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I could care less about the display honestly

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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.

If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined.
Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Too funny...

wpghtc said:
If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
In my opinion, the TF is a different class of product to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is a definitely a "purer" tablet experience, and in general I do prefer my GT10.1 over my TF.
However, when I go on vacation next week, I will probably leave my GT10.1 at home, and take the Asus TF with dock instead because of the advantages the dock brings.
If the new TF can bring the tablet experience of the GT10.1, with the flexibility of the TF dock, I'm sold.
Regards,
Dave

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
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I have got the uk 3g here in Egypt from Vodafone official store and I liked the black back allot more valuable than both metallic and write backs, thanks for your reply and wating for your comparison between the two versions
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foxmeister said:
The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
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I wouldn't call it "crappy" but I'd say it's pretty average. I looked at all the tablets before buying the G-Tab and none of them were as refined h/w wise. The Transformer's I played with all creaked and the display wan't as good as the G-Tab. Friends have Transformer's and some have had to either exchange them or send them in for service for various h/w issues. (And I know, the G-Tab has Newton rings but it hasn't effected my two or those owned by friends.)

is it not scaring any of you that quad cores are coming so fast.. it means google and the manifacturers did not even give their tablets a year to sit on their thrones (not even a half year for many ones).. it gives me the fear of being outdated "abnormally fast" (please mind that statement=abnormally fast) no matter what i buy... and now there is the risk for our tegra 2 tablets not to get ICS.. it also scares me to be outdated easily again.. i mean, if the biggest rival apple is still caring about their iphone 3gs even after 2 more new models, what manifacturers are doing sounds so nokia-ish (like giving birth to many children but not caring about their growing).. is it not?

No plans on switching. Waiting for ICS update and I will be happy.
Regarding TF201 I don't really fancy the "rings" used on on the back and the bezel that is big. But it got better battery with the dock (hence the big bezel).
Love my Galaxy Tab and wouldn't trade it for a Transformer.

The tab I want next is based on these factors:
- form: how thin and portable is it
- display: must be vivid and sharp, no les than samsung quality
- expansion: absolute must. itis the single place the STab failed on for me
- price: has to be market price or better, no first adopter prices please
- processor: the more powerful a processor you get, the less likley you will need to upgarde for a longer term
I will hold no loyalty to a brand, but some brands do things better insome areas than others. For now, the Asus pad, at least visually, looks pretty sweet.

If the quad/tegra3 can play my 1080p mkv content off my portable hard drive while connected to a HDTV with the HDMI cable plugged in then I'm sold.
As of right now when I bring movies home to my parents for my dad to watch I still have to use my bulky laptop. I got the tab in hopes I could decrease my travel weight. Alas I've only added as now I bring my tab AND my laptop.
So sad.

I just bought a transformer and I was wondering......

Well I just bought an Asus transformer at best buy but my question was if it was really worth it or should I waited for the prime?
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Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.

Money is definately a factor and as for the features on the prime the only thing I was very amazed by was the speed with its quad core Tegra 3 thingy
If I had the money before buying the transformer I would definatley wait but I only had 400 dollars and I really needed a tablet or laptop because I recently sold my netbook which was freaking slow (that's why I sold it)
So in conclusion I might wait a few months maybe 5 months to upgrade and right now I'm looking for a cheap docking station because freaking best buy still has them at 150 dollars
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Malandro2011 said:
Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
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It's not really an extra cost !! the Prime costs 32GB for $500 and 64GB for $600 !! Same as the old one except that there's no 16GB !!
I would've chosen the Prime... I bought my Transformer 5 Months ago and I feel like It's already outdated !! the new one is so much better !!

The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be. Whereas the transformer is faster than it should be in my opinion. Also, apart from being slimmer and lighter, the keyboard has the same layout, not inproved in my book, annoying!
I will be waiting for the next one anyway!
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habylab said:
The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be.
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If I recall, same thing happened with Tegra 2. "Software not optimized" and so on.
Regardless of that, I agree with post #2, it depends on your "level" desired.
It's like buying a Nexus S or a Galaxy NX, or maybe from SGSII and Galaxy NX
If you have more than enough with the TF101 16GB then you chose correctly (I'm on the same situation)
I hate to bring this up but perfect analogy is iPhone 4 vs 4S in my opinion.

My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.

osho741 said:
My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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The right choice!
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The Transformer 1 does everything that I need it to do, including providing the best screen on any tablet/laptop right now (aside from the expensive IPS Thinkpad Tablet).
I got mine with keyboard for $350 CDN. The Prime with keyboard, even if available, will be more than double that amount. I'd rather spend the extra $350 on necessities.
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most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned.
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I bet that it will be quite awhile before Android takes full advantage of quad-cores. By then, we will have much faster tablets anyway. For those who have the money, the Prime is a great upgrade, but for most of us, we don't need 4 cores or the extra GPU power. I don't play intense games on my tablet. I find controlling the touch interface too much of a hassle.

yeah this was a quote from the review on the verge from Joanna Stern on the tegra 3 and its use on the transformer
GENERAL OS, EVERYDAY PERFORMANCE
Going into this review my biggest question was does Android and the general software experience benefit at all from the extra cores and power? I soon learned that the answer to that isn’t that cut and dry. While Nvidia says the general UI and OS should feel faster, I have only found that to be the case some of the time. While you can see in the video that swipes across homescreens are swifter, the waiting that frequently occurs when opening menus or toggling between apps on Honeycomb tablets isn’t completely gone. I also didn’t notice much of a difference when it came to multitasking — it didn’t have a problem running multiple apps, but I didn’t notice a speed increase between the Prime and the original Transformer under heavy loads.
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Also battery life was shorter
So a big update on the battery life. On our standard test with brightness set at 65 percent and power saving mode switched on, the tablet lasted six hours and five minutes — exactly an hour longer than when it was set to normal mode. Still, that's an hour shorter than the original Transformer
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As you can see i think it is generally an OS related problem right now than anything else. All that being said I couldn't justify the 200 dollars more for it.

The Prime is more elegant and definitely more powerful. But it is not a huge step and the Transformer 1 will get all Ice cream sandwich benefits also (probably including some speed/ smoothness improvements).
I find it a bit disappointing that there is no 16GB Prime for a lower Price but I will stick to my TF101 anyway (of course I'd switch to the Prime if someone gave it to me for free), but I'll rather wait for the next generation with higher resolutions and maybe more RAM (or Android Jellybean...)

Thanks for sharing. Missed that part, honestly.
For anyone else interested, quoted from: Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime review By Joanna Stern on December 1, 2011 01:00 am

Thanks guys you made my day I was starting to feel bad but all those feelings are gone now:-D
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If you want a rooted tablet, then the PRIME is not for you..bootloader is locked, apparently. So, despite hardware limitations, I am glad to have chosen the TF101 over the prime.

Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.

I just got a TF101 as well and learning today that the Prime's booloader is locked made me really happy I didn't fork out the extra cash.
My TF101 was so easy to root I couldn't believe it - the only device I've rooted before is my HTC Desire Z which was a lot more hazzle.
Very happy with my Transformer

Assdikes said:
Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
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I would also want to know if this "feature" is true. It has been sad that it is because a 5th low voltage core (600MHz I think) does your background stuff, like when you have it on idle.
I also have this decision to make. 1st prime is still not available in stores in my country, but I wonder if the prime is worth the extra cash. I'm thinking like this for now prime is more cool, more powerfull, better battery, more expensive and have some troubles with wireless antenas (someone please talk about these problems, how bad is it?). For cool, it lasts few time I think, after a while, you will want to play with it rather than admiring his looks. Powerfull, dont think I'll need the extra juice, battery - Strong pro point, poor wireless reception - Strong con point
Im guessing for 500$ (or €) I can get the TF101 16 GB with dock, or the prime 32GB without the dock. But havent decided yet, but more likely going to the tf101.
also check the prime TF700T, it was thought to fix the wireless antennas problem among other improvements (e.g. higher res screen), but will be more expensive, starting at 599$

Upgrade

So who plans to upgrade to the tf700
Or whatever I'm within my 30 day bestbuy return so I probably will.
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Not me. Sure it would be awesome to have that powerhouse of a tablet. But the 300 does everything i need it to and more for a good price.

The problem is one of apps, not hardware. Too many phone apps not optimized for tablets. The T300 is more than good enough. :thumbup:
Still Charged Up

Holding my upgrade till i see some windows 8 goodness or badness in upcoming tabs.
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The Infinity 700 isn't suppose to be a successor, just a more expensive and more polished version. 300 is for top specs on a budget, 700 is for top specs without a budget lol. If you have to pay extra I'd recommend just staying with the 300. With all the new events and tablets coming out not to mention Windows 8 I wouldn't recommend swapping if you already have a solid tab.

I'm my opinion the only thing the 700 has that I want is a brighter screen. Don't even really care about the resolution that much. Definitely not worth the 150 bucks more though.
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I copied my other post to give you my opinion on the TF300 VS TF700.
IMO it isn't substantial enough. Ok bear with me here, the new TF700 looks pretty cool and all but I see a few potential problems with it in the future.
Ok when Apple went from the ipad 2 to ipad 3 and the way higher res screen they knew the needed to have a CRAZY overkill GPU because not only did the ipad need to run current high demand games but also games in the future. Egypt screen off tests show how insane overkill the GPU is vs any other platform, but with the screen on benches obviously it drops a ton due to that resolution.
Here's one possible problem. You've upgraded the resolution on the TF700 but done nothing to the GPU to support the insane amount of extra pixels you've just added (and the CPU isn't even a MAJOR upgrade by any definition). So now games in the possible future may run like crap because you need to run it at such a high res without the CPU/GPU to back it.
A possible example of this is already happening is with the Acer A700, they put that 1900x1200 screen on it but have just the standard 1.3 Tegra 3 in it and it is having some serious gaming issues on games currently out. Now the only other difference between the TF700 and A700 is the TF700 is using DDR3 ram (Which I've yet to see any bench on any tablet that showed DDR3 having any major performance benefits) and the TF700 is running at a faster CPU speed (Same GPU speed). I'm not sure if the A700 problem is a software issue or the Tegra 3 simply can't drive the 1080p screen for intense 3d games but if the only difference between a game running smooth and choppy is 300mhz from the CPU then I see the TF700 having gaming issues very soon.
Also you have to remember there are almost no (Possibly no) apps that take advantage of that high of a res yet and by the time they start to be out in any number you'll probably be buying a new tablet with an 8 core CPU. But I have to admit text does look really nice on the TF700 screen.
That's just my personal feelings on it, I hope the TF700 doesn't run into the issue above but there is a reason Apple put that insane GPU in the ipad 3 and the TF700 isn't enough of an upgrade IMO. The extra battery time and IPS+ is pretty sweet but I just see that 1080P screen as a possible handicap in the near future.

Eh... not worth it.
It is like double the price for some little features I don't care too much about.
My next tablet will probably be an expensive windows 8 one with like i5 processor lol...

Not worth it to me. The tegra 3 is a disappointment to me. My tegra 2 A500 was just as smooth. I won't let the marketing hype get me again. Don't get me wrong, I love my 300, but if I would have had a 101 I probably would not have upgraded.
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Lots of valid points I looked at the iPad today and was blown away by the screen. Tablets are coming so fast it's too much to keep up.
Honestly I haven't turned it on this week.
Got the GS 3 too busy playing with it.
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Yes, I'm also within my 30-day window so I'll be returning my TF300.
Then I'll bounce off the walls for a week till I can pick up my TF700 on the morning of July 16th!

I was waiting for the tf700 for the longest time, until I realized that I could get the tf300+dock and a new phone for the same price. So, I picked up the 300 on Tuesday and f***ing love it!
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I will wait until there is a more robust gpu to support 1920x1200. The 300 is IMO a better fit for the Tegra's gpu. Especially for game emulators like N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded.
Another nice thing about the 300 is the touch response is as good as my iPad 3.
Now, if I did not play game emus and not had an iPad 3, I would probably switch.

I'm in the same camp. I just bought my tf300 and I have found it to handle everything I want very well so far. I can't see myself upgrading in the near future. I don't have the cash anyway. Haha.
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I had the Prime since launch and recently decided to sell it to purchase TF700 but after waiting for it to release for sometime I started looking at TF300 and luckily I got a great deal on Tf300 + dock from a fellow XDA member, which I received today and so far I like it a lot more than Prime (except for the lack of brightness). So for now I'm going to cancel my preorder and enjoy TF300 while I wait for a newer model that is significantly different from Prime/TF300/TF700 to justify an upgrade.
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what about me? i don't have a tablet yet and i want one, but should i wait for the tf700 or buy the tf300, i can buy it on amazon for $384 (tablet only)?
can you guys give me some advices, please?

nooktablet said:
what about me? i don't have a tablet yet and i want one, but should i wait for the tf700 or buy the tf300, i can buy it on amazon for $384 (tablet only)?
can you guys give me some advices, please?
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Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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I concur with the last post. This is enough to run all I throw at it very well.
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ajamils said:
Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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Plus one..
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ajamils said:
Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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funnel71 said:
I concur with the last post. This is enough to run all I throw at it very well.
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what about the gorilla glass 2, i heard you don't need a screen protector if the device has gorrilla glass, and does this mean the tf300 is easy to get scratch,
i usually don't use my finger to "touch" the screen but sometimes i accidentally do, should i worry about this or just buy a screen protector?

Reasons why you wouldnt get the Galaxy Note 2.

Besides the size and the cost, why wouldnt you get this phone? Lets hear what others have to say.
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There's nothing i can find why you shouldn't get this masterpiece.
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Because of these stupid, annoying and meaningless threads :crying:

1. No CM support (for now)
2. Old CPU and GPU (compared to A6 or Snapdragon S4 Pro)
3. I don't like SAMOLED screens because: A. low brightness B. burn in C. bad whites (compared to IPS). Also, PPI is pretty low for today.
4. Camera is not the best out there
The only deal breaker for me is no CM support.

DubelBoom said:
1. No CM support (for now)
2. Old CPU and GPU (compared to A6 or Snapdragon S4 Pro)
3. I don't like SAMOLED screens because: A. low brightness B. burn in C. bad whites (compared to IPS). Also, PPI is pretty low for today.
4. Camera is not the best out there
The only deal breaker for me is no CM support.
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A6? Its just Dual core and it ain't Cortex A-15 too and the Note 2 completely blows it off on geekbench.
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DubelBoom said:
1. No CM support (for now)
2. Old CPU and GPU (compared to A6 or Snapdragon S4 Pro)
3. I don't like SAMOLED screens because: A. low brightness B. burn in C. bad whites (compared to IPS). Also, PPI is pretty low for today.
4. Camera is not the best out there
The only deal breaker for me is no CM support.
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Yup, it makes sense to buy a note and remove all the stuff samsung puts in it to make this device unique in its genre with a CM

No SVDO on 3g may be a deal breaker

ask me if i care no im still buying it i dont really care about screen resolution or brightness o people complaining that is plastic
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what i care squadscore cup 1.6 2gb ram 64gb memorycard which you can find about 30 dollars all of those feature which come in handy in my daily life
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Besides the size and the cost, why wouldnt you get this phone? Lets hear what others have to say.
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overprice really for what you getting
ifyou dont like it the iphone is for you my friend if you wanna be behind old tech

system.img said:
A6? Its just Dual core and it ain't Cortex A-15 too and the Note 2 completely blows it off on geekbench.
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A6 is an AWESOME processor! who cares its dual core? and your right, its not Cortex A15, its something else Apple made, and its great.
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Yup, it makes sense to buy a note and remove all the stuff samsung puts in it to make this device unique in its genre with a CM
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For me, yes. Also, what will happen will Samsung stops the support for the device? we will need CM to use higher android versions.

One internal storage size.
Plastic.
Boring and dated physical appearance.
Some of the hardware reasons stated above.
Will be replaced in twelve months because that's Apple's policy.
Don't troll my opinions they can be changed but they're never wrong.
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Size is generally the biggest turnoff.
It is a very good point that without apps2sd, the 16 gig version is a problem if you are a big gamer.
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The only things i can think of are..
- It makes you a target for thieves and pickpockets who sees you with such a fine device that they want to steal it from you.
- Price is quite high
- It attracts women to you (it's definately not a negative thing, but i can't seem to get any work done because they are flocking around me)
- It makes Apple fanboys cry in shame of their own stupidity. And yes i have run into many who regret buying that shiny iPhone 5.
/ Magnus

What a stupid thread. :banghead:
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1, Stupid internal memory arrangement, only 10gb of app storage is daft and already filled
2, No flash supprt (tried installing the APK but no joy)
3, s4 Krait pro chipset should have been used instead of older exynos (even though it's still a performance beast)
But that's it
Everything else about the phone is fantastic, build quality, screen, performance, looks, Spen, Jellybean etc...

MadfishGTB said:
1, Stupid internal memory arrangement, only 10gb of app storage is daft and already filled
2, No flash supprt (tried installing the APK but no joy)
3, s4 Krait pro chipset should have been used instead of older exynos (even though it's still a performance beast)
But that's it
Everything else about the phone is fantastic, build quality, screen, performance, looks, Spen, Jellybean etc...
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If it was powered buy S4 Pro this device would be perfect
It would be so powerful and would get CM support!

GPU performance like desktops, mobile devices are now pretty much bottlenecked at gpu speeds and idiot manufacturers dont realoze it... except of course, apple... why must i wait til aple decides to do something before any other manufacturer does something? and I'd prefer a 1080p screen (not a deal breaker)

MadfishGTB said:
2, No flash supprt (tried installing the APK but no joy)
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Try different versions of Flash, and make sure you're using a browser that supports Flash. People are using Flash on their Note II's just fine with no issues.

I see where this thread is going lol
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

awesomedeals88 said:
Besides the size and the cost, why wouldnt you get this phone? Lets hear what others have to say.
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Despite the suggestion of reviewers, it doesn't seem to print instant money or sh** gold.:laugh:
Seriously, I suppose it could have a better camera, stereo speakers, screen etc but point to a better device in this class ATM?:good:
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MadfishGTB said:
1, Stupid internal memory arrangement, only 10gb of app storage is daft and already filled
2, No flash supprt (tried installing the APK but no joy)
3, s4 Krait pro chipset should have been used instead of older exynos (even though it's still a performance beast)
But that's it
Everything else about the phone is fantastic, build quality, screen, performance, looks, Spen, Jellybean etc...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHN3MAq7fwU
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/...roid/11.1.115.20/install_flash_player_ics.apk (<-You tried that one?)
I want the 64GB..also doesn't have a built-in HD projector or holographic capabilities yet..

DubelBoom said:
For me, yes. Also, what will happen will Samsung stops the support for the device? we will need CM to use higher android versions.
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When Samsung stops support for this device we'll all be on to bigger and better things.
By then I'll be rocking a Galaxy Note 5 with a 7" screen, 8 core processor running Android High Fructose Corn Syrup version 6.1.

New Asus Infinity vs Tablet Z vs Asus MemoPad FHD 10 inch

Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-memo-pad-fhd-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?

How's their support of this development community coming along? ...

Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.

cjdalessio said:
How's their support of this development community coming along? ...
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Asus's tablets have very good devs. In fact they are the reasons why users do not leave Asus for their bad software support.
Trno said:
Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.

I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.

It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.

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I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
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Asus is the quickest OEM releasing the new update (yep, crap but quick very near stock one)
Normally the bootloader is unlocked, even locked but not hard to pass.
The Jones said:
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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Yes, IMO it's a good selling point too, but now we still don't know the exact weight of the new Infinity. The dock is great, truely, that's why I bought three Asus tablets (tf201 is a nightmare though)

Definitely some impressive hardware from the new ASUS Infinity. It seems it has a great display as well, as expected from a SuperIPS panel and now at such high resolution. USB 3.0 is a good thing from the dock. $499 (dock included) would be a great price for such specs.
Weight is a big deal, personally. It's a 10.1, which means, if it's a kind of heavy tablet, it would be exhausting to use it for prolonged periods of time. I pre-ordered my XTZ, a week ago, but hasn't arrived yet. I think I'm gonna love it but I can deny that the ASUS Infinity would be a great option to wait for.

hung2900 said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.

Trno said:
I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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The New Transformer Pad Infinity is the first in ASUS range of innovative dual-purpose mobile devices to feature a 1.9GHz NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 mobile processor with quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72-core GeForce® GPU. The 10.1-inch LED backlit display has an ultra-sharp 2560 x 1600 resolution with IPS technology for 178-degree wide viewing angles, plus 10-point multi-touch for smooth and responsive fingertip control. ASUS SonicMaster-enhanced audio completes the mobile tablet entertainment experience. The redesigned keyboard dock now features a multi-touch touchpad, USB 3.0 and an SDXC card reader, and gives longer battery life when the tablet is docked.
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Source: Asus
http://press.asus.com/asus-transforms-expectations-for-computing-at-computex-2013/

I have been burned a few times on Asus tablets; the TF 201 had crappy wifi and gps reception, and the Infinity had terrible IO performance which made the tablet stutter badly when doing something like downloading an update, a file, etc. Also, the chassis started to separate from the screen bezel area on mine, and I barely used used it for a couple of months.
I like the innovation and many efforts that Asus makes when trying to do something different; but for me, build-quality is lacklustre. I would certainly wait for a while before going with any Asus tablet to see what the issues for that tablet will be. Perhaps they will grow of out these issues.

Members there is a thread in place for this...>>>>Here.