Well I just bought an Asus transformer at best buy but my question was if it was really worth it or should I waited for the prime?
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Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
Money is definately a factor and as for the features on the prime the only thing I was very amazed by was the speed with its quad core Tegra 3 thingy
If I had the money before buying the transformer I would definatley wait but I only had 400 dollars and I really needed a tablet or laptop because I recently sold my netbook which was freaking slow (that's why I sold it)
So in conclusion I might wait a few months maybe 5 months to upgrade and right now I'm looking for a cheap docking station because freaking best buy still has them at 150 dollars
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Malandro2011 said:
Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
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It's not really an extra cost !! the Prime costs 32GB for $500 and 64GB for $600 !! Same as the old one except that there's no 16GB !!
I would've chosen the Prime... I bought my Transformer 5 Months ago and I feel like It's already outdated !! the new one is so much better !!
The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be. Whereas the transformer is faster than it should be in my opinion. Also, apart from being slimmer and lighter, the keyboard has the same layout, not inproved in my book, annoying!
I will be waiting for the next one anyway!
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The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be.
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If I recall, same thing happened with Tegra 2. "Software not optimized" and so on.
Regardless of that, I agree with post #2, it depends on your "level" desired.
It's like buying a Nexus S or a Galaxy NX, or maybe from SGSII and Galaxy NX
If you have more than enough with the TF101 16GB then you chose correctly (I'm on the same situation)
I hate to bring this up but perfect analogy is iPhone 4 vs 4S in my opinion.
My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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The right choice!
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The Transformer 1 does everything that I need it to do, including providing the best screen on any tablet/laptop right now (aside from the expensive IPS Thinkpad Tablet).
I got mine with keyboard for $350 CDN. The Prime with keyboard, even if available, will be more than double that amount. I'd rather spend the extra $350 on necessities.
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most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned.
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I bet that it will be quite awhile before Android takes full advantage of quad-cores. By then, we will have much faster tablets anyway. For those who have the money, the Prime is a great upgrade, but for most of us, we don't need 4 cores or the extra GPU power. I don't play intense games on my tablet. I find controlling the touch interface too much of a hassle.
yeah this was a quote from the review on the verge from Joanna Stern on the tegra 3 and its use on the transformer
GENERAL OS, EVERYDAY PERFORMANCE
Going into this review my biggest question was does Android and the general software experience benefit at all from the extra cores and power? I soon learned that the answer to that isn’t that cut and dry. While Nvidia says the general UI and OS should feel faster, I have only found that to be the case some of the time. While you can see in the video that swipes across homescreens are swifter, the waiting that frequently occurs when opening menus or toggling between apps on Honeycomb tablets isn’t completely gone. I also didn’t notice much of a difference when it came to multitasking — it didn’t have a problem running multiple apps, but I didn’t notice a speed increase between the Prime and the original Transformer under heavy loads.
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Also battery life was shorter
So a big update on the battery life. On our standard test with brightness set at 65 percent and power saving mode switched on, the tablet lasted six hours and five minutes — exactly an hour longer than when it was set to normal mode. Still, that's an hour shorter than the original Transformer
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As you can see i think it is generally an OS related problem right now than anything else. All that being said I couldn't justify the 200 dollars more for it.
The Prime is more elegant and definitely more powerful. But it is not a huge step and the Transformer 1 will get all Ice cream sandwich benefits also (probably including some speed/ smoothness improvements).
I find it a bit disappointing that there is no 16GB Prime for a lower Price but I will stick to my TF101 anyway (of course I'd switch to the Prime if someone gave it to me for free), but I'll rather wait for the next generation with higher resolutions and maybe more RAM (or Android Jellybean...)
Thanks for sharing. Missed that part, honestly.
For anyone else interested, quoted from: Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime review By Joanna Stern on December 1, 2011 01:00 am
Thanks guys you made my day I was starting to feel bad but all those feelings are gone now:-D
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If you want a rooted tablet, then the PRIME is not for you..bootloader is locked, apparently. So, despite hardware limitations, I am glad to have chosen the TF101 over the prime.
Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
I just got a TF101 as well and learning today that the Prime's booloader is locked made me really happy I didn't fork out the extra cash.
My TF101 was so easy to root I couldn't believe it - the only device I've rooted before is my HTC Desire Z which was a lot more hazzle.
Very happy with my Transformer
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Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
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I would also want to know if this "feature" is true. It has been sad that it is because a 5th low voltage core (600MHz I think) does your background stuff, like when you have it on idle.
I also have this decision to make. 1st prime is still not available in stores in my country, but I wonder if the prime is worth the extra cash. I'm thinking like this for now prime is more cool, more powerfull, better battery, more expensive and have some troubles with wireless antenas (someone please talk about these problems, how bad is it?). For cool, it lasts few time I think, after a while, you will want to play with it rather than admiring his looks. Powerfull, dont think I'll need the extra juice, battery - Strong pro point, poor wireless reception - Strong con point
Im guessing for 500$ (or €) I can get the TF101 16 GB with dock, or the prime 32GB without the dock. But havent decided yet, but more likely going to the tf101.
also check the prime TF700T, it was thought to fix the wireless antennas problem among other improvements (e.g. higher res screen), but will be more expensive, starting at 599$
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I want to buy it in July in the U.S.
A. How his support on the ROMs? That I see in XDA forum and he has left ROOT but no ROM.
Do you think came ROM?
Two. How he compared to the prime? I want it that is unique and costs less and has no problems in GPS WIFI
Three. Has some problems familiar?
Four. Is any game that works in transformer work on transformer tf300?
GAMELOFT GAMES
I rooted mine, but I have not installed any ROMs. I have no need (yet) and I only rooted it so that I could change the hardware keymapping (to Dvorak). So rootable, but I cant comment on ROMs.
I have never used a prime, but from what I understand, and in my situation, I prefer the 300. Its cheaper, no gps/wifi issues, BUT, the prime does have a better display and slightly faster CPU.
I have had exactly two problems so far, and the google indicates that I am alone with these problems. First, I need a Dvorak keyboard, and there is no setting to change the key mapping to Dvorak. But I was able to change the keymapping and now it works great. The second problem is that I had some weird video noise to the far left of my screen. I rebooted and it went away and has yet to return. I have heard of no systemic problems.
My understanding is that games that run on the prime will also run on the 300.
PrimeTime OP.
as you can see from looking at the threads here in the 300 section, its going through same growing pains as prime did when it first cam out.
I would say base it on pricepoint. if you want the best display, highest spec device, get the prime. if you don't have money to spend on prime and can settle for lower spec, 300 is a great choice. although less powerful than the prime. its still more powerful than most tablets on the market.
either would be a good choice, honestly.
I went to go get the prime today but after stumbling upon this I had to get it. Its better then the prime because the plastic back let's signals get through. You'll give up a measley 100mghz. And gorilla glass. I think development will pick up in time as its so close to the prime and its got to be easy to port. Hopefully a genius that needs strong wifi will consider this beast. Already rooted and very happy with the display! I bought a galaxy tab 7+ and was not at all happy with it. First Asus product and me like it
I say pull the trigger bud
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Just watched the conference and the new nexus 7 seems pretty fantastic, listed with these specs that im very interested in
Tegra 3 Quadcore 4+1 SOC
1gb of ram
1280x800 ips screen
android 4.1 jelly bean
1.2 mega pixel front facing cam
paired with the fact its created by ASUS, and it is a Nexus device, means that this is now Googles new tablet Reference, pretty much any app that wants to work well on Google tablets has to work on this, this is VERY good news for us, as our tablet pretty much match the nexus' reference design spec for spec, im super excited to see what comes of this, hoping for some highly functional jelly bean ports soon
(i know the nexus includes things like NFC and such, but im not super hyped about that as we dont have it on out lovely tf300's )
Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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TF300T is better, for sure.
I like 10" screen and 32gb default.
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Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.
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It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.
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My mistake, i was basing it on UK pricing which is £400 for the transformer with dock. It still seems much much cheaper though. Similar hardware and i dont see how a micro SD slot or storage space takes away around £200!
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No HDMI port
No rear facing camera
No SD card interface
I don't use the HDMI port often, but I do use the rear facing camera. I like the SD card slot.
NFC - Not sure about that technology, I have no use for it currently, but if you're going to be taking your tablet out on the town alot I guess it could be useful - but it seems to me if you are taking your tablet out of the house you'd want a rear facing camera, or a way to transfer the image to the tablet (SD card slot)? Also wouldn't you want to scan UPCs?
Judging that the nexus tablet and this have very similar hardware, will that mean that we will get similar updates that the nexus tablet would receive?
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Prices of devices like the Nook, Fire, and Nexus are kept low because the related sellers anticipate making money off of the related app stores, be it Barnes and Noble, Amazon, or Google.
Nexus looks great. Still very happy with my TF300. I had the original Nook Color before. It was okay, but I wanted a larger screen and a keyboard. It makes for an entirely different experience.
I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.
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I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.
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Agree wholeheartedly. Project Butter to the rescue! :victory:
I can't imagine that this will take long at all to upgrade to 4.1. It's made by the same company that made the nexus so all the staff has had plenty of time to get it ready. The only thing that would make this take a while is their skin. However they have a very minimal and actually useful skin. Love the performance toggle. I see this out probably in less than a month. Plus it always helps to not have to deal with the carriers that phones and 4G tablets have to deal with.
Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.
this tablet also has corning gorilla glass. and the TF300 does not. :good:
I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.
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Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.
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I believe the only difference is the type of memory controller (ddr2 or 3) and speed on board
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I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.
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I would buy the nexus 7 as an impulse buy, $199 that's little over an hour of work, if I could buy it over here in Holland.
Are the api's closely related, as in, could we easily port jellybean onto ics without a ton of problems like gingerbread to ics, or are we just going to have to wait?
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One of the reasons I bought the TF300 was because I knew Asus was making the Nexus tablet and the specs would be very similar but I wanted a 10 inch tablet. This is great because we should get firmware updates super fast and the development community for this should grow also. I'm really excited about this. I may buy a Nexus for my daughter that has wanted a Kindle Fire for a while.
ihope jellybean come fast to asus developer and release it fast to fix bug of the tf300
Really liked the look of Google now and the smarter voice search as well.
If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...I never take my tablet out while driving (unless I'm watching old Simpsons episodes). Really excited to use it on here, but if carriers and manufacturers want to sell more Android products, they need to help foster a development community on a unified OS... I'm an android/linux /windows user (own an iPod, and went iPhone, 3g, original Droid, revolution), but I do admire apple's app store and their esthetic finesse. But that all could be better with android...
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If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...
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How would they ever sell newer and shinier devices then?
What do you think?
The TF700 is a terrible scam.. sorry, but this thing doesn't even work beyond something from the early naughties. It's seriously underpowered, and for an expensive tab it has some bloody cheap internals - Tegra 3 is 2 years old, it was never meant to power a 1080p screen for much more than movies. If you want proof, 1080p is one of the things they're touting with the Tegra 3+. So just grab a Nexus. It has a better screen, anyway.
My first phone was this Samsung brick thing back in 2007, and it could play music. The Infinity can't even do that without it dropping out or stuttering all the time thanks to its terrible NAND.
I think Kookas went of the deep end. TF700 isn't that bad. I think it has been the best 10 inch Android tablet until the Nexus 10 arrives. And the first Tegra 3 device (Transformer Prime I think) came out early this year, so the Tegra 3 isn't that old.
However, unless you NEED a keyboard, I see no reason to buy an Infinity now. Nexus 10 has much better specs and a stock Nexus software experience.
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I think Kookas went of the deep end. TF700 isn't that bad. I think it has been the best 10 inch Android tablet until the Nexus 10 arrives. And the first Tegra 3 device (Transformer Prime I think) came out early this year, so the Tegra 3 isn't that old.
However, unless you NEED a keyboard, I see no reason to buy an Infinity now. Nexus 10 has much better specs and a stock Nexus software experience.
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Best Android tab until now isn't really saying much, and actually in terms of specs the Note 10.1 completely surpasses it aside from the screen resolution.
Trust me, it is an absolutely horrific device. It's laggy as all hell while the Nexus 10 does that awesome resolution like a pro. Asus doesn't deserve a penny.
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Because of the resolution alone it has to be the N10, it's going to look gorgeous.
Re-post from a similar thread in the Infinity forum, although I feel it's appropriate in this one as well.
"I decided to return my TF700 today, and await the Nexus 10 release. Sure, some people are saying its "ugly" but it's a beast internally.
I don't use the keyboard dock, nor do I really care to own one. I have a laptop to do any content creation, which I don't do on the go anyway. I'll be using it as a pure consumption device around the house, and it seems like a better fit for me. I even plan to pick up the 16GB model and save a few dollars.
That said, anyone comparing the two devices "Apples to Apples" is just wrong. They appeal to two VERY different types of users, and in my opinion don't even really fall into the same category other than "Android Tablets". The TF700 isn't a bad tablet, and overall I enjoyed using it (CleanROM 2.3 + Data2SD changed my life). No reason for everyone to bash it, it may be the most versatile Android Tablet around for some time and it keeps getting better."
Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com
Just return it. They aren't going to check anything
Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....
The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.
I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.
I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.
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Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.
If you had a choice would you buy the Asus TF300T again?
Personally, I maybe about to switch to the Galaxy Note 10.1 as my Asus TF300T has been sent in for RMA due to banding (something inherent in 4.2, and not an issue it turns out). Anyway, I think I may have the chance to say 'if you can't fix it, I don't want it to my retailer (UK)'.
The things I like about the tablet are:
Fast updates
Smooth (at least some of the time)
The dock
It's creak free (mostly)
The things I dislike:
Very very slow internal storage makes the tablet lag
Creaking from the left bezel
Constant force close messages (improved a bit in 4.2, but still occasionally happening due to I/O issues)
Slow web browsing (improved partially since 4.2)
Edit: Just received my tablet back and it's in a worse condition. I'm now exchanging it with my retailer for a Note 10.1.
i wouldn't cause of the screen quality... i would probably go for a nexus 10
At the price I got mine at...yeah I would.
At the price I got mine (close to 400 euros, last summer), I wouldn't buy it again now. It's a good tablet, has been serving me very well, but technology has moved on and expectations have increased.
If I HAD to buy a tablet now, I would go for something cheaper, a nexus 7 would be okay or something at that price. Very similar to the TF300 in capabilities and much cheaper.
(btw, I use my tablet mostly for educational purposes... to read books, browser the web, youtube etc)
I am waiting for the next generation of tablets where 400 euros will buy me much more than the TF300 currently offers.
Yes, I would buy it again if it was at the same price I originally bought the 32gb tablet for $299 and the blue dock for $49.
I'm very happy with the TF300T. It does everything I need it to. The great Devs we have in the section are an added bonus.
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For me personally, I wouldn't buy it again because mine got give me a bit of issues when the touchscreen didn't work properly only after two weeks of having it before i teared the whole thing apart and fixed it which is still a bit wonky but i can cope with it.
But the device itself works very well but like what other have said, the technology with this tablet is a bit outdated compared to other tablet but the form factor of the tablet being able to transform to a netbook is what made me buy it.
If anything I might go with the tf700 as my next tablet or a future generation of the transformer series
I upgraded to the tf300t from a tf100 and I'm really happy with it. I don't like Android on tablets in general, I use Ubuntu mostly as it brings out the full potential, and makes it more of a netbook.
Build quailty isn't great mine scratches really easy being a white model and compared to my tf101 doesn't feel as sturdy. I previously had a samsung windows 8 hybrid tablet that cost waay more than the tf300t and the built quailty was terrible and the Intel atom processor was nothing on the performance of the tegra 3 not to mention the gpu on the tegra is about 5 times faster. I beleive the tf300 is well worth the price.
Although id proberly buy the tf700 if I had another chance.
Hmmm... Is this question asking "if you were to walk into a store today, would you buy the TF300T?" or more like "If you could go back in time, would you still buy it?"
I bought mine right after it launched. My only other real choices were the TF201, the Acer A500 (I think that was the model number; might have been the A510 or something), a Samsung Tab 2, or wait several months for the TF700. If I were to go back to that point in time, I would probably still buy it as it was the best option available.
If I were shopping for a tablet today, I would pass up the TF300T and get a Nexus 10. That's a no-brainer to me. It costs the same as I paid for my TF300T with a way better screen and dev community (not that our dev community isn't great, but let's face it; the TF300T isn't a Nexus).
No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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Mark930 said:
No I like it but I keep running into random lag issues for no real reason just flipping through the screens it some times lock up for a second. I also don't like the size of it I can't carry it around with me. Its even large for a 10. Inch tablet I got a 10 tablet case and it wouldn't fit. I wanted to get the galaxy tab 7.7 but felt that was extreamly over priced. If I were to buy a tablet now I would either get the note 8.0 or maybe Ipad mini even though I don't really like ios but size is more important to me.
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I got a tab 2 I'd trade ya
i wouldn't, keyboard is more novelty then useful for me and the tab is a bit too big for the task i use it for, i would just get a nexus 7...or something in that market
maybe if i didn't have a newer laptop and the tf300t was my main laptop then i would be singing a different tune...
I certainly wouldn't. A couple of days after creating this thread my tablet came back in a worse condition. I'm now about to exchange it for a Note 10.1
I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery. It's more likely that my next tablet will be iPad Mini or something really worthy on Android.
But I can't say this tablet is bad. It's okay but there are still some issues I really don't want to face again.
never ever asus again now switch samsung tab
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If I was to buy one today, I voted no. Back when I bought it for the price I got it for, yes. It was the best option for $280 when I bought it during the boxing week sale as no other comparable tablet was within a hundred bucks in my area.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
heins said:
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 on friday, and can with hand on heart tell that i would never buy another Asus pad again, i have had both the Tf201, and Tf300, and they are slow in everything, compared my new Samsung
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Agreed :good:
I'm very happy with my TF300T with CM10.1. Traded it for an Ipad. It was the best trade IMO.
Maybe I never had a Samsung so I don't notice the lag. The creaking from the left bezel is the only thing that annoys me.
Maybe it's just me but ... running the Tablet with CROMI 4.2.1 (4.5) with Hunds Kernel at 1.6 ghz...
For 250 $ (refurb) ... It's running flawlessly and it's fast.
Very pleased with it.
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I wouldn't because I'm completly disappointed with a Tegra 3 CPU, with TF300 screen and battery.
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Could you describe in a little more detail why you are completely disappointed in these three areas?
Tegra 3: Not the fastest but it's a pretty decent processor. Certainly not of the slower ones out there. I think the TF300T is having some performance issues due to its sloooow internal storage (the I/O issue). Where does the Tegra 3 disappoint you?
TF300 screen: I had the chance to check out a Samsung Note 10.1. The screen looked 'better' in the sense of more color saturation and less distance between the display and the surface (not that the TF300 is bad at this). But it wasn't a huge difference. What I wish was better on the TF300, is the glass. It's not very scratch resistant. Why are you completely disappointed in the TF300 screen?
battery: I think the TF300 has a pretty standard/expected battery life. Not outstanding but not too short either. I personally charge once per day or every couple of days. Are there tablets out there with substantially better battery life? The reviews I've seen do not point to such conclusion. (Perhaps you would get an extra hour or two at best?)