Just watched the conference and the new nexus 7 seems pretty fantastic, listed with these specs that im very interested in
Tegra 3 Quadcore 4+1 SOC
1gb of ram
1280x800 ips screen
android 4.1 jelly bean
1.2 mega pixel front facing cam
paired with the fact its created by ASUS, and it is a Nexus device, means that this is now Googles new tablet Reference, pretty much any app that wants to work well on Google tablets has to work on this, this is VERY good news for us, as our tablet pretty much match the nexus' reference design spec for spec, im super excited to see what comes of this, hoping for some highly functional jelly bean ports soon
(i know the nexus includes things like NFC and such, but im not super hyped about that as we dont have it on out lovely tf300's )
Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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TF300T is better, for sure.
I like 10" screen and 32gb default.
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Ive mentioned this elsewhere but HOW is this SO cheap compared to the transformer 300?!? The specs are the same, it has some extra features and costs less than half the price! I get that it is smaller, in both size and capacity but it seems very very cheap
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It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.
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It's certainly not less than half the price. The Nexus 7 16GB is $249.99 and the TF300T 16GB is $379.99. There is a cheaper 8GB version for $199.99, but that's still not less than half of $379.99. While the Nexus 7 has some extra features like NFC, it is missing other features found in the 300, like a rear-facing camera and Micro SD slot.
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My mistake, i was basing it on UK pricing which is £400 for the transformer with dock. It still seems much much cheaper though. Similar hardware and i dont see how a micro SD slot or storage space takes away around £200!
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No HDMI port
No rear facing camera
No SD card interface
I don't use the HDMI port often, but I do use the rear facing camera. I like the SD card slot.
NFC - Not sure about that technology, I have no use for it currently, but if you're going to be taking your tablet out on the town alot I guess it could be useful - but it seems to me if you are taking your tablet out of the house you'd want a rear facing camera, or a way to transfer the image to the tablet (SD card slot)? Also wouldn't you want to scan UPCs?
Judging that the nexus tablet and this have very similar hardware, will that mean that we will get similar updates that the nexus tablet would receive?
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Prices of devices like the Nook, Fire, and Nexus are kept low because the related sellers anticipate making money off of the related app stores, be it Barnes and Noble, Amazon, or Google.
Nexus looks great. Still very happy with my TF300. I had the original Nook Color before. It was okay, but I wanted a larger screen and a keyboard. It makes for an entirely different experience.
I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.
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I just hope we receive the JELLY BEAN update promptly...
Asus Transformer TF300 it's great but I think the Tegra 3 need more work, as it's very powerful on paper but I get lag sometimes whereas I shouldn't.
I hope Google engineers will polish JELLY BEAN up to a point where it will use all of Tegra 3 power.
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Agree wholeheartedly. Project Butter to the rescue! :victory:
I can't imagine that this will take long at all to upgrade to 4.1. It's made by the same company that made the nexus so all the staff has had plenty of time to get it ready. The only thing that would make this take a while is their skin. However they have a very minimal and actually useful skin. Love the performance toggle. I see this out probably in less than a month. Plus it always helps to not have to deal with the carriers that phones and 4G tablets have to deal with.
Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.
this tablet also has corning gorilla glass. and the TF300 does not. :good:
I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.
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Don't forget it's also using a different version of Tegra 3, they're not all the same. The TF Pad Infinity also uses a different versions, there's at least three I think. That bundled with the lack of a front facing camera and compatibility with a keyboard dock is probably what lowered the price. Still, there's no need for buyers remorse lol.
I just hope we get timely updates for 4.1, that's why I bought an ASUS tablet lol. They've had a good track record so far so lets hope they keep it up.
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I believe the only difference is the type of memory controller (ddr2 or 3) and speed on board
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I am certain that we will get Jellybean very likely from ASUS, but if not from CM or other custom rom developers. ASUS has been really good with OTAs in the past so I don't know why they would stop now.
Personally I don't know that I have a use for NFC and I like the size of the TF300 plus the rear facing camera is very nice. Its also nice to have a micro sd card slot for the expanded storage. I am happy with my TF300 and look forward to running some Jellybean goodness in the near future.
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I would buy the nexus 7 as an impulse buy, $199 that's little over an hour of work, if I could buy it over here in Holland.
Are the api's closely related, as in, could we easily port jellybean onto ics without a ton of problems like gingerbread to ics, or are we just going to have to wait?
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One of the reasons I bought the TF300 was because I knew Asus was making the Nexus tablet and the specs would be very similar but I wanted a 10 inch tablet. This is great because we should get firmware updates super fast and the development community for this should grow also. I'm really excited about this. I may buy a Nexus for my daughter that has wanted a Kindle Fire for a while.
ihope jellybean come fast to asus developer and release it fast to fix bug of the tf300
Really liked the look of Google now and the smarter voice search as well.
If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...I never take my tablet out while driving (unless I'm watching old Simpsons episodes). Really excited to use it on here, but if carriers and manufacturers want to sell more Android products, they need to help foster a development community on a unified OS... I'm an android/linux /windows user (own an iPod, and went iPhone, 3g, original Droid, revolution), but I do admire apple's app store and their esthetic finesse. But that all could be better with android...
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If only LG and other phone manufacturers would update their phones,we'd all get to use these wondrous tools regularly...
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Well I just bought an Asus transformer at best buy but my question was if it was really worth it or should I waited for the prime?
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Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
Money is definately a factor and as for the features on the prime the only thing I was very amazed by was the speed with its quad core Tegra 3 thingy
If I had the money before buying the transformer I would definatley wait but I only had 400 dollars and I really needed a tablet or laptop because I recently sold my netbook which was freaking slow (that's why I sold it)
So in conclusion I might wait a few months maybe 5 months to upgrade and right now I'm looking for a cheap docking station because freaking best buy still has them at 150 dollars
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Look at this way.
Original Asus Transformer - Entry Level with more features then most other tablets
Asus Transformer Prime - High Spec Level - More powerful, plays 1080p, slimmer, better looking.
Then decide what you want to do with it and if the advantages of the Prime are worth the extra cost.
I own the original Transformer and it does everything I need it for so I'm happy to wait a few months after the release of the Prime before I consider changing.
But if money is no object and you can wait another month then I recommend you wait for the Prime.
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It's not really an extra cost !! the Prime costs 32GB for $500 and 64GB for $600 !! Same as the old one except that there's no 16GB !!
I would've chosen the Prime... I bought my Transformer 5 Months ago and I feel like It's already outdated !! the new one is so much better !!
The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be. Whereas the transformer is faster than it should be in my opinion. Also, apart from being slimmer and lighter, the keyboard has the same layout, not inproved in my book, annoying!
I will be waiting for the next one anyway!
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The thing is... I haven't had one bit of lag on my Transformer. And its not even OCd, its stock. Its perfectly fast.
And its going to be getting ICS, and the update after that too probably!
Also, you can already find reports of the speed of Tegra 3 being massively disapointing, not as fast as a quadcore should be.
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If I recall, same thing happened with Tegra 2. "Software not optimized" and so on.
Regardless of that, I agree with post #2, it depends on your "level" desired.
It's like buying a Nexus S or a Galaxy NX, or maybe from SGSII and Galaxy NX
If you have more than enough with the TF101 16GB then you chose correctly (I'm on the same situation)
I hate to bring this up but perfect analogy is iPhone 4 vs 4S in my opinion.
My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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My wife got me the transformer 101 for xmas. I based my decision on the fact that most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned. the only lag i notice on it is due to honeycomb and not the tablet's hardware. The custom roms seemed to have improved that to an extent. I have an almost fully working version of ICS on my g2 and judging based on that version I would say that ICS will really improve the lag issues and general experience of it. Of course ICS on the prime will probably really improve it as well but Im happy with my transformer it does everything pretty well and i am rarely frustrated with it.
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The right choice!
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The Transformer 1 does everything that I need it to do, including providing the best screen on any tablet/laptop right now (aside from the expensive IPS Thinkpad Tablet).
I got mine with keyboard for $350 CDN. The Prime with keyboard, even if available, will be more than double that amount. I'd rather spend the extra $350 on necessities.
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most reviewers found that the tegra 3 was somewhat disappointing with most saying it was not always even noticeable as far as speed was concerned.
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I bet that it will be quite awhile before Android takes full advantage of quad-cores. By then, we will have much faster tablets anyway. For those who have the money, the Prime is a great upgrade, but for most of us, we don't need 4 cores or the extra GPU power. I don't play intense games on my tablet. I find controlling the touch interface too much of a hassle.
yeah this was a quote from the review on the verge from Joanna Stern on the tegra 3 and its use on the transformer
GENERAL OS, EVERYDAY PERFORMANCE
Going into this review my biggest question was does Android and the general software experience benefit at all from the extra cores and power? I soon learned that the answer to that isn’t that cut and dry. While Nvidia says the general UI and OS should feel faster, I have only found that to be the case some of the time. While you can see in the video that swipes across homescreens are swifter, the waiting that frequently occurs when opening menus or toggling between apps on Honeycomb tablets isn’t completely gone. I also didn’t notice much of a difference when it came to multitasking — it didn’t have a problem running multiple apps, but I didn’t notice a speed increase between the Prime and the original Transformer under heavy loads.
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So a big update on the battery life. On our standard test with brightness set at 65 percent and power saving mode switched on, the tablet lasted six hours and five minutes — exactly an hour longer than when it was set to normal mode. Still, that's an hour shorter than the original Transformer
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As you can see i think it is generally an OS related problem right now than anything else. All that being said I couldn't justify the 200 dollars more for it.
The Prime is more elegant and definitely more powerful. But it is not a huge step and the Transformer 1 will get all Ice cream sandwich benefits also (probably including some speed/ smoothness improvements).
I find it a bit disappointing that there is no 16GB Prime for a lower Price but I will stick to my TF101 anyway (of course I'd switch to the Prime if someone gave it to me for free), but I'll rather wait for the next generation with higher resolutions and maybe more RAM (or Android Jellybean...)
Thanks for sharing. Missed that part, honestly.
For anyone else interested, quoted from: Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime review By Joanna Stern on December 1, 2011 01:00 am
Thanks guys you made my day I was starting to feel bad but all those feelings are gone now:-D
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If you want a rooted tablet, then the PRIME is not for you..bootloader is locked, apparently. So, despite hardware limitations, I am glad to have chosen the TF101 over the prime.
Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
I just got a TF101 as well and learning today that the Prime's booloader is locked made me really happy I didn't fork out the extra cash.
My TF101 was so easy to root I couldn't believe it - the only device I've rooted before is my HTC Desire Z which was a lot more hazzle.
Very happy with my Transformer
Assdikes said:
Hey everyone, I heard that the transformer prime is supposed to have way more battery life, like 3hrs more, than the tf101. Is this true? Because that would be the only reason whether or not I would buy it??? Someone tell me the truth.
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I would also want to know if this "feature" is true. It has been sad that it is because a 5th low voltage core (600MHz I think) does your background stuff, like when you have it on idle.
I also have this decision to make. 1st prime is still not available in stores in my country, but I wonder if the prime is worth the extra cash. I'm thinking like this for now prime is more cool, more powerfull, better battery, more expensive and have some troubles with wireless antenas (someone please talk about these problems, how bad is it?). For cool, it lasts few time I think, after a while, you will want to play with it rather than admiring his looks. Powerfull, dont think I'll need the extra juice, battery - Strong pro point, poor wireless reception - Strong con point
Im guessing for 500$ (or €) I can get the TF101 16 GB with dock, or the prime 32GB without the dock. But havent decided yet, but more likely going to the tf101.
also check the prime TF700T, it was thought to fix the wireless antennas problem among other improvements (e.g. higher res screen), but will be more expensive, starting at 599$
So what is everyone's thoughts?
Check out the specs:
7-inch IPS display with a resolution of 1280x800 and a 178-degree viewing angle
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
1.3Ghz quad-core Tegra 3 processor
nVidia GeForce 12-core GPU
1GB of RAM
8GB or 16GB of internal storage
1.2 MP front-facing camera, no rear camera
NFC with Google Wallet
Android Beam
Battery life estimated at 9 hours
They say it will be $199 to $249. That's the same and cheaper than we paid for our GT7's.
Source: http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...ice-leaked-in-internal-training-document-r919
Nice, I could always give my wife my Galaxy Tab 2 7"
and get a new tablet for myself, win win
I'll probably end up returning my tab to Costco and getting this. Maybe I have a lemon, but the screen's touch response has been pretty frustrating and I'd rather just not deal with it anymore.
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Just looking at the specs i think it will be a good deal, BUT some bad things in my opinion are:
Nvidia..
Resolution, i own the 7" with 1024x600 and all the web sites fits perfectly on the screen when in landscape mode, with 1280 you will have some extra empty borders making the fonts somewhat smaller without any browser tricks, higher resolution to me is equals to more detailed but smaller things
Hope it haves gps...
This is not confirmed but it seems it will be asus, after reading some feedback about them i dont think they are a good choice
In my opinion the better things are:
Jelly bean
Nexus, it will have a lot of dev and google support
A quadcore, i think i dont need it since i rarely play games on my tablet.
Nfc, i dont have any use for it but someone will...
Im not talking about battery life because we all know all manufacturers lie.
I will look closer at the nexus 7 forums, and maybe i will sell my tab and get it but i dont think so
I was kind of disappointed when hearing this, but I have really gotten over it. To fit those specs into that price range they are going to have to skimp on a lot of other stuff. Also, the Quad core won't do much as Android doesn't really use all 4 cores unless you are doing benchmarks or playing one of Nvidia's games.
The only real advantage that has is the screen, but who know's the quality of the screen, also for a 7" tablet I would rather have the lower resolution.
The only thing I really see for this tablet is the dev support, which after getting a fully functional CM9 port, I don't really care too much as that is probably the only thing I would run on it anyways.
Finally, I just came from an Asus tablet and while I loved the thing it did have a good bit of flaws and a lot of angry customers. My ASUS laptop works great but I guess that doesn't carry over to their tablet division.
Keep in mind that this is an Asus built unit - don't get too excited. My Tab 2 7.0 browses better than my Prime.
Google is going to regret the day they partnered with Asus... Check back in about 4 months...
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rcatron said:
Keep in mind that this is an Asus built unit - don't get too excited. My Tab 2 7.0 browses better than my Prime.
Google is going to regret the day they partnered with Asus... Check back in about 4 months...
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Count me as one of those "angry" former Asus customers. Two laptops and one
tablet, all gave me nothing but headaches.... I am a very understanding person
and I know electronics can have defects. However, Asus was absolutely terrible
when I tried to get the products fixed under warranty. It was a painful and slow
process. Not to mention that their customer service reps seemed to trained to
ask 20 questions and expect detailed answers before approving a warranty
repair request.
I thing I'm curious about is whether or not it will have the ability to use external SD cards. Since this is a reference device, and if you look at the Nexus phones they don't support them either.
Since my Tab is now my primary travel companion for long international trips for movies - that's a huge negative in my book.
I see the pros being the display, price, and development support. Outside of that, the rest of the specs seem in line with the Tab 2. Who is going to use NFC and Google Wallet from a tablet? Unless Google Wallet becomes more like Passbook, it's going to be useless as I would think you would need an internet connection, and how awkward would it be paying with a 7" tablet?
The CPU could be a plus for them, but it may also affect battery life having more cores. The Tegra 3 looks like a fairly solid SoC, but as others said, quad-core isn't going to do much for a while, if ever, as most stuff that would tax the system will have stuff offloaded to the GPU as you are likely gaming. The lack of a rear camera isn't huge IMO, as I never use the cameras on my tablet now.
Cons I see are the low price point as well. It's great to have a cheap tablet, but what did they cut back on to get it cheap? I also see no mention of GPS, WiFi, or Bluetooth, so who knows what it has there. I think that the Galaxy Tab 2 having hardware very similar to the Galaxy Nexus is a benefit to us, as we can more easily get AOSP working that way. It will have problems, as the builds do now, but until more details of the Nexus Tablet are released, I still think the GTab2 is a great device.
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I thing I'm curious about is whether or not it will have the ability to use external SD cards. Since this is a reference device, and if you look at the Nexus phones they don't support them either.
Since my Tab is now my primary travel companion for long international trips for movies - that's a huge negative in my book.
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I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.
Kiersten_Kress said:
I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.
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Haha no doubt. I had a kf for a few days and hated not having a slot.
The galaxy nexus doesn't have one? Wtf? Really?
I doubt it has GPS. It doesn't even have a rear camera.
scottx . said:
Haha no doubt. I had a kf for a few days and hated not having a slot.
The galaxy nexus doesn't have one? Wtf? Really?
I doubt it has GPS. It doesn't even have a rear camera.
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I've had my Galaxy Nexus since December. The #1 thing that I hated
was the lack of SD slot. (otherwise, it was a cool phone)
I just got my gtab 7 today. Its great! Was thinking if the asus,but i love my tab with ir blaster. Glad with my choice.
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I sincerely hope Google won't make the same mistake twice. (first one was
when it left out a microSD slot in my Galaxy Nexus phone) A tablet without
microSD slot is about as useful as a paperweight... or I can just get a KF.
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I don't mind the no sdcard slot on my phone but on a tablet that is just unacceptable.
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This will be the differentiator for me. If the Nexus 7 doesn't have an SD slot then I'll get the Galaxy Tab 2. No SD card is just unacceptable.
I think our GT2 will kick that Asus Tablet's ass.
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I think our GT2 will kick that Asus Tablet's ass.
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+1. I bet for that asus to get to that price point wont have a micro sd card slot and back camera. To me the gtab is all i need, as browsing is so darn fast. I dont read ebooks, but for regular tasks this is quite fast.
I have never used the camera on my gtab, however I just can't see a tablet that doesn't have a SD slot, but if it doesn't that would be the deal breaker.
I really like my gtab, a lot more now with CM9 on it, so when the Nexus 7 hits it will be a tough decision.
I Really Hope this is a real device that will be released for that price! The issue is I will be kicking myself in the face because I just bought the Tab 2.
Honestly glad I didn't buy this tablet. It was a gift so no regrets :/ I'm happy with it regardless.
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Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
A little pro for you is the support of the users here in xda
PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.
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I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.
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Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!
I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.
Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.
Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.
I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.
I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.
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Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313
Hey Guys,
I need some help here. So basically i have the all new Google Nexus 7 tablet which has just launched. So I am getting an offer to exchange my Nexus 7 for an ASUS EEE Pad Transformer TF101. I was considering switching but was not able to make the descsion, so i need help from you guys on whether switching/exchanging a Nexus 7 for a TF101 Transformer Is worth it? The Transformer has a Dual Core Tegra 2 while as the Nexus 7 has a Quad core Tegra 3. Other than that the Transformer seems better. It has a larger screen with slightly lower PPI, it has a 5 MP camer + front facing one too. It has 16GB internal + expandable storage(not sure if expandable). Build quality and battery life seems equal on both. So i want to know if the Tegra 2 is well performing on the TF101 and whether it can handle the latest games/apps and whether the TF101 lags?
Thanks all!
Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?
The Asus Transformer is also worth taking a look coz its is bundled with features....
But finally it depends upon you that what are your needs as If you want to use it for hardcore gaming then obv. Transformer is the one to go with but if you want a pure Google experience and are GOOGLE FAN then you should stay with the Nexus 7 as it has the latest and coolest features....but in the end u r the 1 who has to make the decission as per ur needs... Happy googling
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Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?
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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?
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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?
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Even running at stock speed, my TF runs all the games I've played smoothly. ....But there are some newer games optimized for Tegra 3. BTW, I have both the TF and Nexus 7, and they're both awesome in their own way.
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If it is new or a refurb and not coming from a private/owner seller, I say go for it. You can always buy another Nexus 7 when the price drops. If it is the owner, then maybe you could work out a temporary/trade/try it. If pre-owned does it have any problems. Maybe nothing is wrong and they are just feeling the urge ( you know, that desire for the latest toy). I have noticed that the price for the TF101 has gone up since I bought mine 7 months ago. I will probably buy the N7, due to the urge. But I had better wait for cooler weather. Just paid an electric bill that was over $300
after using a 7', the 10.01" will seem huge in comparison. I have the keyboard dock, it's cool, with the extra battery, USB & SD slot. But I rarely use it, the soft key pad is great.
Actually you should keep the Nexus coz it is new and latest tech by the Android Owner/Developer, so it is a must have tab fr Android geeks as Google has worked hard for putting all those features in such a low rate....and the second reason is that Transformer has become a bit old and isnt the latest technology although it is a good competetor but it is like an old Grand Father with less usability.
....also you will in Starting love the keyboard along but after some time you will see no use of the keyboard....also the keyboard dock after some time becom lose and while carrying both connected it slips(nt personal experience of dock)....well indeed make a good choice which suits you the best....
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Even though the n7 is a Google device I will probably never buy any tablet smaller than the 10 inch. Same reason I will never buy a phone bigger than 5 inch. Just my two cents.
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It depends on your usage model. I have both the TF and N7, and ever since I got the N7 my TF has mostly stayed turned off. However, I don't plan to get rid of the TF either. I mainly use my tablets for browsing and watching downloaded videos. Browsing on the N7 is smooth and buttery, while on the TF it is reasonably quick but the occasional stutter happens more often and is therefore more irritating. The UI on the TF isn't as smooth, but in my experience apps work flawlessly. Videos, on the other hand, look better on the TF. It's not just the screen size, but the contrast seems better as well. The N7 is also easier to hold/handle due to it's small size.
Let me put it this way, if you primarily browse the web or stream most of your content (or love having the latest and greatest OS), stick with the N7. If you need lots of local storage (or are stuck with slow DSL), want to output content to a TV (I use mine to play emulator games with my PS3 controller), or want the optional convenience of the keyboard and the epic battery life that gives you, trade for the TF.
I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I wouldn't. Unless it comes with the dock.
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I've got both and personally i would stick with the nexus. i really want to love the TF101, the keyboard hybrid is such a great idea but it's been a really frustrating experience - very often laggy as hell (press the recent apps key and wait 5 secs for it to respond!), too many bugs for a device that is now over a year old (crashed launcher, screen locking up, i still occasionally have the device randomly rebooting). the speakers and microphone are also awful, really poor quality.
The nexus really is the best android tablet on the market at the moment in terms of performance. but if screen size/storage space is important then maybe it's worth swapping - but i would consider another android tablet.
well the OG transformer has HDMi out while the nexus 7 doesnt
I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I can take that for sealed N7. PM me.
man, i'll gladly go with a Nexus 7 over my Transformer+dock.
i would rather want the smaller form factor. taking around the Transformer+dock just seems too much like a laptop to me, and without the laptop power.
Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com
Just return it. They aren't going to check anything
Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....
The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.
I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.
I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.
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Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.