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Should I buy this

or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
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BTJ

Just consider two things :
1, do you really need A pen?
2, do you really need a super big phone screen?
If you answer is no then buy Galaxy Nexus.
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xda890 said:
or should I wait for the Galaxy Nexus.... I can't decide.....
Regards,
BTJ
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Thinking, software vs. hardware? Hardware on Note is 5x better, but Galaxy Nexus has new and best software 3 months earlier than galaxy Note. I'll choose Note, because i don't have rush to get the Icecream Sandwich. Just my opinion...
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Consider also three other things :
- Do you need large storage (Nexus deos not have a microSD card)
- Do you need radio FM (Nexus does not have it)
- Do you need ICS (Note does not have it ... yet)

Well, I don't need a pen but I think I would have used it (seems like a good idea)
and big screen is nice, since I always carring my phone in the belt..
- I have also not used up my 16 GB SD card on my Nexus One, so I probably won't need more than 16GB but nice to have the opportunity..
- No need for FM radio..
- This point is where I am not sure.. ICS really looks nice and not having to wait for Samsung to get new releases is also be positive..
Damn theses decisions.....
BTJ

Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.

It's a question of hardware versus software
Nexus is a Galaxy S 2 with software improvements and slightly different hardware. Design and look has been updated. Larger screen size is because there are no longer buttons on the bottom. These buttons are now in the OS. So you still have about the same size screen maybe slightly more because the width is slightly larger. Nexus does not have 3G data bands. It does have HSPU and LTE as well as 2G data and 3G voice. The processor and graphics hardware is different. Possibly better than Galaxy S 2. It is still 1.2 ghz dual core. It has Android 4.0, the latest and greatest software, with a host of new features. Nexus has Lotus glass and a higher resolution screen than GS2 as well as NFC.
The Note has a significantly larger 5.3" screen, 1.4 ghz dual core processor, and stylus. It has 3G data & voice as well as HSPU. You will probably be able to get Android 4.0 and almost all its features through a custom rom within a month or two after launch.
The rule is buy for hardware. You will be able to put Android 4.0 on the Galaxy S 2 shortly. I already own a Galaxy S 2 and the hardware is very similar so I would not be getting a whole more with the Nexus. If you do not have the GS2, the Nexus would be a good upgrade for you. With the Note I do have better hardware than GS2, so I'm buying that. One other consideration is size. The Note is big. Really big.

Amen. I didn't regret my purchase for a single second.
And I don't mind to wait another two or three months for ICS so the first bugs are already ironed out.
Gaugerer said:
Get the Note for everyone who has moved to a larger screen says they would never go back to a smaller one. The stylus and the SD slot significantly increases the power of the Note and Gingerbread is very capable whilst waiting for ICS which will surely come.
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Hmmm... Maybe I should "settle" for the Note then... And I guess NFC it still years to go before in active use....
Thx...
BTJ

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I need Galaxy Note. But I need the NFC feature. I can't understand what does the "Optional" mean in some Spec.

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lol... Don't make me want more the Note, you lucky bastard already have it...
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LOL! You're just plain mean
I'm watching the video of the Note release and right in the beginning they also mention the Nexus, and the fact that the Nexus is being released with Ice Cream Sandwich at launch - why isn't the Note also being released on that platform? Makes me curious as to whether or not ICS will never come to the Note - I've already been involved in an innovative platform that never evolved (Garmin iQue 3600), I'm going to be very disappointed if the Note goes the same way....

I've been debating between these 2 and I think it's a no brainer.
If the size of the note isn't an issue for you then it's the note, it's a bigger and high res screen and has far more grunt CPU and GPU.
I haven't yet seen proof that the nexus can display 720p video on full screen (on honeycomb the buttons could not be hidden apart from with a root app).
The only thing the nexus has over it is ICS and I would be amazed if the note didnt get that this year.
"Most importantly, though, the brains of the operation is the OMAP4460 application processor which has two Cortex-A9 cores clocked at 1.2GHz — quite fast, certainly, but it isn’t the 1.5GHz Exynos that we were hoping for.
It is because of the OMAP4460 processor that the Galaxy Nexus will only have the PowerVR SGX540 GPU, an antiquated beast from 2007 that can actually be found underneath the hood of last year’s Nexus S, and in the Droid Bionic. The SGX540 is very weak compared to the Mali-400 GPU found in Samsung’s Exynos SoC (the one that powers the Galaxy S II), and it’s positively snail-paced against the Apple A5′s SGX543MP2."

Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.

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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?

reinbeau said:
Frankly, I'm not even tempted by the Nexus or the SGS II compared to the Note, I'm just really curious why they didn't use ICS for two phones being rolled out at the same time.
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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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OMG, I so hate you!
If you don't mind, how much did it cost?
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I paid 472€ ~$650 thanks to a special promotion code. Normally its 550€ here in Germany ~$760!

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Maybe because Note already rolled out and Nexus has always to be the first with the newest Android Version
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No, I know the Note is first, but if you watch that video, the European release of the Nexus was happening at the same time - so they're very close in release date.

funny that they say rollout is 29th and today (28th) many people already got their note

Trade Note for GSIII...Should I?

A friend of mine just bought a GSIII (BNIB) because her Note's screen broke. She's been using it but doesn't get used to the screen, says that after the Note everything seems small. Since I have a Note, she offered to trade. I am seriously considering it, first and mostly because of how developer unfriendly the Note is. Suuree we have great ROMS and kernels, but that nasty EMMC bug is just nasty. Second reason is the awesome camera on the GS3. Third reason is the quad Exynos. Fourth reason, Jellybean<3 (i know we have CM10, but things would be much better with an official JB build around). But, are those things enough to sway me from the Note's gorgeous, humongous display, and the not-so-gimmicky-as-everyone-thinks S-Pen? What do you think?

If you really like your friend and she is desperate, sure why not. If you are talking purely on how it will benefit you, I wouldn't recommend it. I dunno how ROM crazy you are, but I see plenty of ROM development and you can get around the eMMC issue easily once you know how (just from what I've read). The camera on the GS3 is not "awesome" in comparison to the note. Most reviews state that the GS2/Note and the GS3 have almost identical cameras. It takes faster pictures, but that's about it. Even the BSI and bigger aperture don't improve night shots that drastically. Ditto for video. In fact, the GS2/Note has better audio capture, since it does not cut out lower frequencies. The GS3 has awful audio capture.
There's not a big difference between dual and quad core, and probably won't be for years to come. Same was true for PCs. Even now my quad-core setup isn't much better than my old Athlon x2. It takes a lot of effort to code for two cores, much less four. Once you get dual-core, which is mainly for smoothness while multitasking and going through the UI and doesn't affect individual app performance drastically since most apps are still single-core and splitting up the processes effectively is a monumental task, any extra cores have diminishing returns. Have you seen a comparison of The Gnex on a slowpoke 1.2ghz OMAP dual-core vs the GS3, both running JellyBean? There's a comparison on the pocketnow site. Jelly Bean will turn your dual-core into a quad-core, or in the case of the Tegra 3 One X running ICS, even faster than a quad-core. The speed of individual cores is more important than the number of cores if you are talking purely just speed when running apps.
If you were worried about the note not getting official JB, there's evidence that all the high end current samsung Androids are all getting JB eventually. Yeah too lazy to go link the posts on gsmarena/phonearena.
Other things to consider, is how cheap feeling the GS3 is compared to the note (if that bothers you), and of course like you said the stylus and giant screen size.

Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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msedek said:
Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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This.
Criskelo 4.04 ICS LRG v9, LRB Modem, speedmod k3-11 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)

The Note has better build quality.

Note
- Larger screen
-Pen input
S3
-Much faster
-lighter
Decide on what u want

msedek said:
Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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+1
Id tell her to return it and buy another note.
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aalupatti said:
Note
- Larger screen
-Pen input
S3
-Much faster
-lighter
Decide on what u want
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Much faster in Wich way?
Lighter feels cheap..
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msedek said:
Much faster in Wich way?
Lighter feels cheap..
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Some people just wont get it....
Galaxy Note @ mobile

TRADE IT!!
You will appreciate the Note II better when it arrives and the SGS 3 will be easier to sell and will still be current.

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Imho note its the best phone ever created.. I'd only change my note for note 2
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Lol...same here...waiting for the note 2 to come out, so I don't think I would trade my note for anything atm
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Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else

I would wait for the note 2, especially with the rumors going on that it will be announced on the 15th of April.
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THUDUK said:
Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else
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Actually that's some good advice. I used to renew my contract with my phone company years ago for the best phone they'd give me for little (usually an iCrap), sell it, and just buy another phone or continue using the phone I had (I change phones frequently lol).
I'd personally take a look at both phones. the S3 form factor and size is actually something I'd like, but then again, I'd totally miss the size of the screen and the spen. I don't know about battery life and I don't know about the feel in the hand, I don't think it's cheap though. I like Samsung devices. I don't think you can go wrong with either.
Honestly, I'd probably get the S3 or the Note 2. Ask her if she can hold out on it for another few weeks because the Note 2 will be announced and you can see. I'm personally debating:
If the Note 2 comes out with more than a gig of ram and a better camera, then I'll go for the Note 2 ONLY if they don't make the size ANY BIGGER (dimension wise), it's already huge.
If the note 2 comes out with the same specs as the SGS3, with a pen and slightly higher resolution screen than the SGS3, then I'd probably get the S3. I've had the Note since December,and while I love it, I want to change devices soon! hehe.

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tbong777 said:
TRADE IT!!
You will appreciate the Note II better when it arrives and the SGS 3 will be easier to sell and will still be current.
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Yesssss s3 is so much better. I would.....

THUDUK said:
Swap with her, then sell the g3, as you will get a lot more for it than the note, then either save the money and put towards a note 2, or buy another note plus some cash in your pocket. The s3 is just another smartphone the note is something else
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That's wise advice: A financially sound decision which will actually earn you money. As soon as the Note2 hits the shops you will have to work hard to off-load your N1. Also, your friend is probably not a tech obsessed person so the advanced specs won't doe much for her: she just wants a Note
On another note (pun intended) If you're a tech nerd, the opportunity to try the Samsung flagship out for a couple of weeks should be a nice incentive.

I love my note, and yeah I'd only trade it for the Galaxy Note 2. But (if you're talking cheap) Samsung does feel cheap compared to HTC and (gasp) Motorola. I've owned these and difference in feel is certainly there. The OneX is so much sexier and well tougher feeling than the S3. Even the Desire HD with the plastic backing is quite sturdy.
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I recently had to send my phone of for repair after my wife stood on it and smashed the screen. I was asked by a mate if I'd get an S3 like him instead of my Note if they couldn't repair it and gave me cash instead (it is insured.)
No way I'd go smaller again. Half an inch doesn't sound like much but it can make hell of a difference (or so my wife says! )
It even annoyed me when I borrowed my mate's S3 to surf the internet.

IMHO there is only one good answer: Help your friend to sell the S3 for a good price. Help your friend to buy a nice used or even new NOTE.
Then you can keep your NOTE she can get her NOTE and she won't lose that much money.
You don't want to make profit on the shoulders of your friend, do you?

Note 2... Padphone 2... FIGHT!

Okay I'll edit this later with all the known stats but for now please help me decide which is should blow my load on, the note 2 or the padphone 2.
In brief
amoled vs IPS
5,5 vs 4,7 + 10.1
Exynos vs S4
Polycarbonate (plastic) vs something better
16gb+SD vs 16gb (both may do bigger sometime circa 2113.)
Buy now vs Buy Dec (knowing Asus buy April or buy a Lemon)
Help please, I little stopped myself buying the note today because of how much better the padphone 2 looks to the PDP1.
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Galaxy Note its an unique device.. You can not compare it to anything.. And everything depends on your needs and likes... I can not take anything less than 5.3" Wich its my note 1(waiting for my note 2 to arrive) specs wise the note 2 its the best device to date out there and even if later someone releases something better/faster in processor terms still can not match the 5.55" RGB super Amoled screen
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I'm holding out for the galaxy s4 lolz^o^
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msedek said:
Galaxy Note its an unique device.. You can not compare it to anything.. And everything depends on your needs and likes... I can not take anything less than 5.3" Wich its my note 1(waiting for my note 2 to arrive) specs wise the note 2 its the best device to date out there and even if later someone releases something better/faster in processor terms still can not match the 5.55" RGB super Amoled screen
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I'm also don't understand why people trying to compare Galaxy Note series devices with something.

anonymous572 said:
I'm also don't understand why people trying to compare Galaxy Note series devices with something.
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Because this is the only Phablet out there, and it has some cons such as: old CPU and GPU (if comparing to Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 GPU), no support from CM (yes, this is a deal breaker for me!), and I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens because of low brightness and bad whites, also they burn in, camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2).
The only pros I see for this device is: huge screen, huge battery, sd slot, replaceable battery and Samsung's AWESOME features (S Pen, Popup Note, Popup Play (I know the last two wont work with CM, but they are still there with TW roms, and I can always switch ))
So for now, I don't know what to choose
If the Note II will have CM support (ahm ahm Exynos documentation), I will definitely get it

DubelBoom said:
I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens
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I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
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camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2)
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Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.

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Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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The reason why I left off camera details is we've not got enough to compare. Everyone knows megapixels are primarily a marketing tool.
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anonymous572 said:
I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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It shoots at 6FPS brust shot, and 60FPS on 720P video!
Its very fast. Also, its a very new Sony camera, what could be bad? :cyclops:

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The reason why I left off camera details is we've not got enough to compare. Everyone knows megapixels are primarily a marketing tool.
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I don't think that PadFone 2 have all this great samsung camera tweaks. I really like burst shot, best faces, slow motion and other samsung features.

If I wanted to actually carry a phone and a tablet I would buy a seperate phone and tablet not a padfone with a crappy half tablet. The note 2 serves people that DON'T want to carry around a tablet to satisfy their daily media-consumption needs
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Don't forget about Verizon's 5" HTC phablet coming in next 4 weeks or the Oppo Find 5 with over 400 ppi!
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c5satellite2 said:
Don't forget about Verizon's 5" HTC phablet coming in next 4 weeks or the Oppo Find 5 with over 400 ppi!
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Oppo Finder 5 looks awesome!!!
Why an unknown Chinese company make the best device?! and its so thin!!!!!

CreepyDroid said:
If I wanted to actually carry a phone and a tablet I would buy a seperate phone and tablet not a padfone with a crappy half tablet. The note 2 serves people that DON'T want to carry around a tablet to satisfy their daily media-consumption needs
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Half tablet?
It'll have a decent screen, its lighter than an iPad 3 (not fair as the screen is far superior), excellent performance, good battery, probably decent camera.
What's half about that? And you wouldn't have to take it everywhere...
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If you look at Asus record as far as android devices are concerned, there are many negative things to say. I had a TF101 and it was crap and looking at all the issues people keep having with their Asus android devices a miracle will have to happen for the padphone to work properly. I have had a 7.7 galaxy tab for a while now and i can count on the fingers of one hand how many times a program has FCed on it. Asus will probably paper release the Padfone 3 six months after the 2 just like they did with the Padfone 1. ..
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Half tablet?
It'll have a decent screen, its lighter than an iPad 3 (not fair as the screen is far superior), excellent performance, good battery, probably decent camera.
What's half about that? And you wouldn't have to take it everywhere...
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Half tablet because it's useless without the phone
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I keen 2 give them slack regarding new form factors. They didn't even release the padphone 1 in the UK...
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anonymous572 said:
I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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My Verizon Nexus has burn in on the corners where the Waze icons live. It's not bad, I can't get a good photo of it, but they are there, and quite noticeable when the screen has a darker color across them.

The ONLY device that will really beat the Galaxy Note 2 is coming in 1 year and is call...................
GALAXY
NOTE
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The ONLY device that will really beat the Galaxy Note 2 is coming in 1 year and is call...................
GALAXY
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DubelBoom said:
Because this is the only Phablet out there, and it has some cons such as: old CPU and GPU (if comparing to Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 GPU), no support from CM (yes, this is a deal breaker for me!), and I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens because of low brightness and bad whites, also they burn in, camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2).
The only pros I see for this device is: huge screen, huge battery, sd slot, replaceable battery and Samsung's AWESOME features (S Pen, Popup Note, Popup Play (I know the last two wont work with CM, but they are still there with TW roms, and I can always switch ))
So for now, I don't know what to choose
If the Note II will have CM support (ahm ahm Exynos documentation), I will definitely get it
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Older / newer (processor term) doesn't mean anything.. Those are 2 different technologies.. It's like comparing the newer AMD against the "older" core i7 xtreme just plain bull****. Note wouldn't be any faster or smoother with snap dragon s4.. The gpu keeps the name but it has lots of improvements over older versions.. And to be honest even with my N7000 I can play any game in the play store...
About cm support.. Tw at this stage has no match feature/smoothness wise.. Why would I flash a very basic flat android when I have a better launcher made by samsung? (Btw if you like aosp looks just install nova /apex)
Camera its not better for mega pixels but the lense and my note does take greate pictures... And I'm not a professional photographer and If I were, I wouldn't use a phone to take pictures so that's just plain dumb.
SAMOLED its great.. I've owned s3, gnexus note 1, no problem so far.. And note 2 has RGB matrix so the little things that bothers me from pentile are now gone.. Bad whites? What do you do with whites? Everyone avoid whites.. Battery raper color...
Low brightness.. Wonder if you spend most of your time under the sun because that's the only condition in which you would need higher brightness and even so my Amoled devices have done well under sunny days..
You are trying to convince yourself of getting anything else but you are not looking at it in the right way... Note its an unique device.. Until now no matter what technology its out there nothing could match note 1 not even s3 or HTC one X why? ... Plain simple massive 5.3" screen/unique features only note 2 could take the crown and so will note 3...
With note devices just 2 things can happen or you hate it because of the size and would never get 1 or you completely love it and would never switch to anything smaller... Thing its that you gotta own the devices for some weeks to figure out that
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[Q] should i buy n4 or sgs4 coming from gnex?

hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.

leandronb said:
hello guys. i am looking for a new smartphone to replace my galaxy nexus. is a good phone but sometimes it shows his age in some apps.
i live in brazil so i can buy nexus 4 for R$1140 that is 512USD, and galaxy s4 octa is R$1685 that is 755USD. i love pure stock android but the hardware and camera of galaxy s4 is amazing. but the laggy touchwiz and only 9gb of space available makes me a bit worried. so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more.
thanks
EDIT:i will sell my galaxy nexus for R$800, 359USD.
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Can you think of anything the octa core processor can run that the quad core can't? How much is a cell phone camera worth to you? Are you looking to take professional grade photos with a phone? Which device has a better chance of running stock android? I would go with the nexus.
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Man I'm from Brazil too, and I did it, sold my gnexus for R$ 750 and by my Nexus 4. Is perfect I recommend!
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I would go for the Nexus. The Octa in the S4 can only run 4 cores at a time, so it isn't a true octa core processor, its a BIG.little chip. If you have the chance to get an HTC One, then I would go for that for the build quality

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so i want to know if the pros of gs4 worth the 243USD more..
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It depends on how much you value the camera and storage of the GS4 but overall I'd say no, the GS4 isn't worth $243 more.

Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.

leandronb said:
Thank you guys. After read all the answers I noticed that everyone says that s4 do not worth the additional price. I will sell my gnex and buy a nexus 4. When I put all the pros and cons of both phones for my needing n4 is the winner. My opinion for who is in the same dillema:
S4 pros-
Camera
Raw power
Bigger screen
S4 cons-
More expensive
Touchwiz and Samsung bloat.
Bad big.little management (cluster migration)
Only 9gb for the user in 16gb model.
N4 pros-
Cheaper
Stock android
Lots of Roms that I am already used in gnex like PA.
Can run any game that s4 runs.
N4 Cons-
Smaller screen
Touch not so good as gnex
Camera not so good as s4 but better than gnex, so for me is enough.
So the cons on the n4 will not ruin my experience, is like a PC upgrade I will just upgrade the hardware and run the same software that I used to. Thank you guys to help me decide and save some money.
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I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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rayiskon said:
I would advise you to wait for snapdragon800. The nexus 4 for 500$ is expensive.
Wait for the upgraded galaxy S4 or a new nexus that should have the snapdragon800 SoC.
Also, check the rumored sony honami that is said to be announced in a few days, snapdragon800, 20mpx camera with 4k video recording.
So if you could wait a little it will be a big upgrade for you from a galaxy nexus, bigger than to either n4 or s4.
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But can you give me a valid real world situation where the Snapdragon 800 would make normal usage better? Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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myturbo1 said:
That Sony phone , you are talking about. Does not even sound slightly real.
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There is already a system dump, that's where the info about the camera came from. Also evleaks already leaked detailed photos of the device. It's also going to be water and dustproof (not resistant, proof).
Nigeldg said:
Why spend extra for the latest and greatest when you can save money and buy something not quite as new and equally great?
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Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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rayiskon said:
Because snapdragon 800 blows every other snapdragon chip out of the water. If it was a s4 pro -> s600 upgrade i wouldn't have advised him to wait, but the s800 is a totally new generation of SoC.
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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.

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Still doesn't answer either question. It may well blow every SoC out of the water but that just means it's overkill and the power will never really be used.
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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.

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s800 SoC supports 3GB of RAM , 4k video recording, 2k displays, and additional ports... oh, and a new stronger adreno 330 gpu.
in no way i find it overkill if you use your hardware for more than calls/sms, especially when implemented in tablets. Furthermore, as ubuntu for android (not ubuntu touch) should be coming out by the end of the year, i'm pretty sure the s800 should provide better performance in that field.
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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.

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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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Agreed!
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i think sd800 is like buying a i7 3770k and a gtx titan when just an i5 3570k and a 660ti can run any game or app.
i will buy today n4, too bad the black color sold out i will take the white one. thank you guys.

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Well I haven't found a single HD game that can lag the N4 yet and I don't see any use whatsoever of having the S800 over the N4. Maybe I'll be proved wrong in the future but right now there's no point to waiting for the S800.
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You're comparing a SoC to a phone as a whole?
If you take a wider look, running a 1080p display, a bigger camera sensor, not to mention the low level software tweaking and optimizations like project butter and other under the hood ones, etc.. requires a lot of processing power.
And with your logic, we don't need 1080p displays, or camera hardware similar to that in p&s ones, it's all overkill.
Did you know that the n4 gives a higher fps result when playing games than an s4 ? It just tells you that the s600 is not capable of pushing all those pixels and maintaining the same fluidity as it would on 720p.
Snapdragon800 is in no way an overkill to mobile devices, it's just a result of the evolution of technology. Other hardware parts are also evolving.
And p.s. s800 supports usb 3.0 , but why would anyone want faster data transfer rates, it's all overkill !
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Definitely the N4, even though S4 has a system dump already for the 4.3, Nexus devices will have it eventually.
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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.

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Actually yes 1080p displays are definitely overkill IMO. I know that the N4 gets better FPS than the GS4 but that's NOT the same as saying the GS4 gets low FPS. Games are more than perfectly playable at the 40-60 FPS that the GS4 manages on ultra high settings on Real Racing 3. As you said though it's not all about the SoC and it's fairly clear that the GS4's software is poorly optimised seeing as it lags even when scrolling through the home screen. If I'm not mistaken the Adreno 320 is supposed to be capable of handling multiple 1080p displays at once.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of mobile technology advancing, but I wouldn't recommend a more expensive device over such a small increase in performance.
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ok, i think i get your point now. i respect your opinion, but i don't agree with it (and that's cool).
1080p is actually quite beautiful when you have a big display (5") and no on screen buttons eating up space. watching a youtube video on full HD is really nice, the sharpness and color distribution also (noticeable when comparing both pentile on s3 and s4).
Anyways, all i wanted to say in my first post is that it's July already, and that a new generation of SoC is coming, and it's gonna be a pretty big upgrade. furthermore, we're all expecting a new nexus in Q4 right? i'm pretty sure we're gonna see an s800 in there, and hopefully Google will keep it's pricing strategy. i think a 3 months wait (till Oct/Nov) is worth it, i'm pretty sure OP's galaxy nexus could live that long, it's not that he has a low end device.
just to add one more thought, i'm aware that my nexus 4 will be more than capable to run ubuntu for android for example, but i'm pretty sure a nexus with an s800 would be even more capable. Or maybe i'm the only one getting excited about turning my phone into a dockable remote PC

Prediction time ... when will we have a higher resolution Note 8?

I tried a nexus 7 and 10 before trying and keeping the Note 8. I love the size and feel, but do wish the resolution was a bit higher. 250 ppi would suffice.
So when will I get my wish? I actually don't care about the s pen. I'd love a fast, 4 core, high-res Tab 3 8. Go!

Note 8 only came out this year so I predict next year at the earliest.
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It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!

rumatt said:
It doesn't have to be a note though. A tab 3 variant or whatever.
I guess the new ipad mini would meet my requirements. Too bad it's a mac!
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So..you're asking when an 8 inch, high PPI device is coming out? I'm guessing when the next iPad Mini hits.

I forgot who it was, but some company came out with a high res screen on a10" tablet with a Wacom digitizer, but if I remember right they are asking $699 for it. So there might be a reason we don't have high res screens.
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I'd rather have the S-Pen than a higher resolution screen. But I wouldn't mind exactly the same device with a 1080p screen, 32GB flash, and a newer processor.
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Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381

ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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God damn. You just triggered my gadget lust. That looks like a pretty nice machine.
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ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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Nice. But too big. 8-9" is ideal for me in my opinion.

If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.

rumatt said:
If the rumors are right it looks like the answer is the Slate 8 pro, hopefully later this fall.
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True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.

ExploreMN said:
Found the tablet I was talking about up above:
http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/pdet.to?poid=2000098381
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The reviews I've read said it wasn't great.
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I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.

pnKK said:
I just don't understand why people hope to appear a new note 8.0 with a higher pixel density, the actual display is very good. I want displays to be more energy efficient rather than more ppi. And the processor is good enough for everything. For me is just marketing.
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Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
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skeeterpro said:
True but aside from the upgraded display I note there's nothing mentioned about a digitizer or price point.
Article here.
Still early I grant you but nothing there for me.
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And the thing appears to have a Tegra 4 SoC. After the POS that the Tegra 3 was (personal experience), I don't think I'll be touching a Tegra SoC again. Samsung or Qualcomm for me, seems like they can be trusted to deliver high performance consistently.

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I mostly agree with you, but at 189 I still notice it sometimes when reading ssmaller fonts. Mid to low 200's is enough for me.
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I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
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Technically, you are right. Realistically, the Galaxy S4 display spoiled me. Having said that, the Note 8 display is much better than my MacBook Pro for example, so it's nothing to sneeze at.
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For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
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pnKK said:
I think we all just need to enjoy our current devices, that is the reason why we bought them, and yes no one will be disappointed by a newer display with a higher ppi on next Note 8. But we really need more efficient energy consumption on these devices so we don't feel that stress when your juice run out and you really need the device.
For me that display is not a reason to spend 600€ (Europe, doh... ) to upgrade from S3, if u have an older one, it's ok. So... everyone with their needs and budget.
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Agreed. I came from the S3 to the S4 and the S3 display is excellent as well. But the S4 display is undeniably better, far more so than even the iPhone 5.

I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
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efanatic said:
I have no issues paying more for a better note 8. I love my note but more flash memory 32 or 64gig would be nice and a higher res screen. Our screen looks great, its bright, colors and vibrant, and very clear but l can see the pixels and l would rather not.
Please samsung make us a PREMIUM 8inch tablet
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Technically speaking, the current 8" Note is "premium" as there is nothing better on the market in the category. having said that, neither I nor would most people pay more money for an 8" tablet, considering that the Note 8 is already the most expensive one out there.

I know that's why l got the note but they could have done much much better. The note can be had for around $350 and sometime less. I would say $450 isn't out of reach for a kick butt 8inch note tablet. I know a few that would pay that