It's my first post here. Done a lot of reading but still couldn't find the answer to this.
I got a sim locked T-Mobile Wing from T-Mobile. Still waiting for the unlock code. This could take a long time for my case. Should I wait until I get the code and unlock the Wing before flashing ROM??? I am very eager to play with the custom ROM's a lot of people are using.... If I do it now, will it cause problem later when I try to sim unlock???
Flash The Phone Before Sim Unlock I Ran Into That Problem B4
ilikepu said:
Flash The Phone Before Sim Unlock I Ran Into That Problem B4
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What problem did you have? I thought if you do Sim Unlock first, there shoudn't be any problem. I am just worried about if I flash the phone first, the unlock code I will get from T-Mobile later might not work. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks.
i sim unlocked then flashed
the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
ilikepu said:
sim unlocked the flashed
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code it never changes unless you hack your imei
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So I don't have to unlock now and can go ahead to upgrade ROM and then unlock later with the new ROM? Just want to confirm. Thanks.
jrey said:
So I don't have to unlock now and can go ahead to upgrade ROM and then unlock later with the new ROM? Just want to confirm. Thanks.
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yes you can flash before sim unlock. I have a wing and its not sim unlocked and I can flash and go back to stock with no problems.
ilikepu said:
i sim unlocked then flashed
the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
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that doesn't make sense.. everytime you flash your flashing a new operating system. theres no way the sim unlock code is part of the operating system.
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Basically With The Unlock Code Your Unlocking The Phone Not The Sim Card So It Is Saved To The Phone When You Flash The Phone You Erase Everything On The Phone
This is exactly why I am reluctant to flash it now since I have not unlocked the phone yet.
I know that, with some other phones like motorola, even if you have unlocked the phone, but if you flash with a wrong stock, you can lock it again and it is very difficult to unlock later...
Can anybody else share their experiences about the Wing?
If you follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225 you can unlock your phone without worrying about the code from T-mo. You will be able to flash any ROM you choose. Just follow it to the letter. Worked great for me.
My main reason to flash was because of all the memory the stock ROM sucked. You'll be amazed by the chefs in the forum.
ilikepu said:
the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
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The unlock is not in the phone's operating system... its in the phone hardware. I think many will get confused if you are telling them its in the OS since you flash the OS when you flash the ROM.
Everyone should know that the IMEI is hardware based like the MAC address of the phone. To change the IMEI would not only break US law's but would void you from unlocking it from a service provider. Flashing a ROM will not change the IMEI.
Hi Guys i need some help.
I wanted to try out the new Bell UI wich is pretty cool but no functional for my self. So i have tried numerous time to go back to the stock Telus ROM but my phone keeps freezing and go load the ROM. I am using the upgrade utility from juicy's page and the Telus stock ROM he has posted. It will go as far as showinf the status bar and then there is an error. The loader wants you to go through recovery mode but my phone is stuck and i need to pull the battery and it just boots like normal. This happened as well when i flashed to juicy's rom.Any help would be awesome.
There are questions... does your phone change to the 3 colour boot screen?
If yes then you get the error... maybe you flashed back to the telus locked pcl and are actually flashing a custom rom built off of the telus oem package?
If it is the original telus rom it should flash without issue using either original pcl or unlocked pcl. Maybe you should reflash the unlocked pcl then flash the telus rom... then flash the pcl back to stock.
I have check to make sure it it unlocked. I just ran the upgrade utility right now to make sure it was unlocked. I get the three color screen it says security unlocked. So when i go to upgrade it to the telus stock ROM which i downloaded from juicy's page it will load through the three color screen and show the status bar at 0% and the the upgrade utility goes into recovery mode. I take the battery out and it starts up like nothing has happen. I dont know what to do any more with this thing
If the rom you have is indeed the stock telus rom... then try flashing back the locked ipl then do the rom upgrade... what I was getting at before was maybe the ipl rom is corrupt.
Hi thanks for you help. I have just tried re locking the phone with the diamond re locker from juciy's page . It said everything was fine and then i tried to upgrade to the telus stock rom and it did the same thing. when you say "flashing back the locked ipl" what does that mean. Sorry ...... did what it said on pocket PC geeks to lock the phone again. thanks in advance
You covered the bases, and it doesn't sound too good... the fact that you were able to reflash the relocked ipl and it still failed is hard to understand why it won't flash the os itself, could be a comm error with the usb? Do you have another machine you can try the flash on... guys like juicy or other c4rbon members could probably help with some insturction on pushing the rom via a terminal session with the phone but I'm not sure.
use again Unsigned-Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex, and after try the stock rom, i had the same problem with htc stock rom, hope it will work for you to.
Hi
I have tried what you sudgest but when i run that one is will not even get to the loader three color screen ......just locks freezes the phone with the color wheel showing. dammmm i dont know what to do now arrrrgggg!!!!!
Verizon xv6900. This Is my first time flashing to a new rom, & I need help. I have a couple of questions to ask anyone that owns a vogue. Do I put bootloader mode.exe onto my storage card or on my phone.
And im trying to flash to NfSFAN's 6.5 Rom. But It Keeps Getting Stuck At 0%.
Do I need to unlock my phone first or what
yes you need to use icoke first.
My phone keeps restarting now! what should i do
GSM4ever said:
My phone keeps restarting now! what should i do
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put it in bootloader pwr+cam+reset hole then try to flash again
ughh.
im in bootloader mode to keep it from restarting which rom should i go to. like a stock verizon one.
Use icoke 2.31 first to unlock the phone. Then flash the rom you want using BootLoader. I think thats what your problem is. I had the same problem because I am a N00b at this as well.
first unlock using cokeman's unlocker.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
theres a link in that thread
optional step:
go back to stock rom
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=19071
then go into bootloader
(power+ camera+reset hole)
and flash
nfsfans 6.5
i actually used .41 unlocker and i had to update radio, use another carrier's rom, and reunlocked it to 2.31 unlocker then flashed it back to stock rom, unlocked it again, and now i have nfsfan's 6.5 and it works GREAT.
I'm sick and tired of not having tethering or custom alerts, so I want to install a custom rom on my surround. I'm trying to downgrade my SPL to 1.52 so I can install HSPL, but I can't find a TELUS one anywhre.
The only one I have seen is Ansar's, but his links are dead. I can't post the links yet as i don't have 10 posts.
Does anyone know of where I can get the stock TELUS 1.52 SPL from, or where I can get Ansar's?
Thanks in advance!
I have two Telus Surrounds and I used this rom from Cingular to roll back the spl so that I could unlock it with DFT HSPL Version 3, and then you can load any custom rom you want. If you can't load the rom you might have to use the gold card with a memory stick.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b48...S_1.03.502.07_5.51.09.06_22.30.50_RELEASE.exe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597837
CrazyTegger said:
I'm sick and tired of not having tethering or custom alerts, so I want to install a custom rom on my surround. I'm trying to downgrade my SPL to 1.52 so I can install HSPL, but I can't find a TELUS one anywhre.
The only one I have seen is Ansar's, but his links are dead. I can't post the links yet as i don't have 10 posts.
Does anyone know of where I can get the stock TELUS 1.52 SPL from, or where I can get Ansar's?
Thanks in advance!
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http://dl.vmall.com/c0m2gktk1f
mcsc said:
I have two Telus Surrounds and I used this rom from Cingular to roll back the spl so that I could unlock it with DFT HSPL Version 3, and then you can load any custom rom you want. If you can't load the rom you might have to use the gold card with a memory stick.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b48...S_1.03.502.07_5.51.09.06_22.30.50_RELEASE.exe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597837
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I tried that one but it said invalid vendor id. I assumed that was because I had a Telus phone and not a Cingular one.
I should mention that I'm running 7.8 with bootloader 4.22.2250.0(129185) and firmware 2250.21.40200.661
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I was successfully able to download and install the rom onto my phone. Now it's readying SPL 1.4.2250.2(113577) and then tried to install RSPL, but the phone would not reboot. I tried resetting the phone as some others indicated, but to no avail.
I then upgraded the phone to NODO using cab sender successfully and tried to RSPL, again the phone wouldn't reboot after completion.
Any ideas?
CrazyTegger said:
I was successfully able to download and install the rom onto my phone. Now it's readying SPL 1.4.2250.2(113577) and then tried to install RSPL, but the phone would not reboot. I tried resetting the phone as some others indicated, but to no avail.
I then upgraded the phone to NODO using cab sender successfully and tried to RSPL, again the phone wouldn't reboot after completion.
Any ideas?
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Great, now I can't even upgrade my phone using zune or cab sender anymore... I'm stuck on NODO.
Does anyone have the STOCK Telus ROM, and not the modified one like the one provided?
yup I have it
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Great, now I can't even upgrade my phone using zune or cab sender anymore... I'm stuck on NODO.
Does anyone have the STOCK Telus ROM, and not the modified one like the one provided?
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I am uploading it now
Hold that thought...got a free file host that doesn't suck? if not PM me I will stick it on my private FTP
rob243 said:
I am uploading it now
Hold that thought...got a free file host that doesn't suck? if not PM me I will stick it on my private FTP
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PM Sent.
CrazyTegger said:
I was successfully able to download and install the rom onto my phone. Now it's readying SPL 1.4.2250.2(113577) and then tried to install RSPL, but the phone would not reboot. I tried resetting the phone as some others indicated, but to no avail.
I then upgraded the phone to NODO using cab sender successfully and tried to RSPL, again the phone wouldn't reboot after completion.
Any ideas?
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Telus rom is a test rom
you flash telus just to take its touch driver and radio
then you flash default shipped rom (delete SPL_Signed.nbh from shipped rom to save the drivers you got from telus)
then you can go with spl tools
thnx
jimmy110 said:
Telus rom is a test rom
you flash telus just to take its touch driver and radio
then you flash default shipped rom (delete SPL_Signed.nbh from shipped rom to save the drivers you got from telus)
then you can go with spl tools
thnx
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When you say Flash Default Shipped ROM, are you meaning the TELUS one, or the Cingular one?
I then update using RUU or GoldCard?
CrazyTegger said:
When you say Flash Default Shipped ROM, are you meaning the TELUS one, or the Cingular one?
I then update using RUU or GoldCard?
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The Default rom that you can name it shipped is Cingular
u use TELUS ROM when you have a trouble with touch driver ( like lock screen bug ) , or when u have trouble in call transmission driver ( making , reciving call problems )
note: u can't flash telus rom with goldcard method else you have a security unlocked bootloader !!
u can flash TELUS ROM with rom utility that come with it
after you take benefit of flashing telus, u cannot go with it, u have to return to Cingular one, note: delete SPL_signed.nbh from Cingular Rom to save drivers that u installed from TELUS, then you go with spl tools
sorry for my bad english
jimmy110 said:
The Default rom that you can name it shipped is Cingular
u use TELUS ROM when you have a trouble with touch driver ( like lock screen bug ) , or when u have trouble in call transmission driver ( making , reciving call problems )
note: u can't flash telus rom with goldcard method else you have a security unlocked bootloader !!
u can flash TELUS ROM with rom utility that come with it
after you take benefit of flashing telus, u cannot go with it, u have to return to Cingular one, note: delete SPL_signed.nbh from Cingular Rom to save drivers that u installed from TELUS, then you go with spl tools
sorry for my bad english
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I don't quite understand. My phone was bought for, and is on the TELUS network. I had upgraded it to 7.8 using cab sender, but really wanted some features (Wifi Tethering, Custom Alerts), so I tried the custom ROM route.
The only thing I've been able to successfully install on it is the TELUS Test ROM, and upgrade it to NODO using Zune (Mango updates failed - I think because it wants a newer firmware, which I have the cab files, but they fail installing)
The Telus Test ROM that I had downloaded uses firmware 22.50.09.10402.661 and bootloader: 1.4.2250.2 (113577).
If I try to install RSPL/HSPL right now, the phone does not restart after completion, thus never gets into RSPL mode to do HSPL.
I recall trying to use RUU to put on Cingular ROM, however it always failed, I believe saying that Vendor ID is invalid.
I'm really frustrated with this, but I don't know how to move forward to install RSPL/HSPL.
CrazyTegger said:
I don't quite understand. My phone was bought for, and is on the TELUS network. I had upgraded it to 7.8 using cab sender, but really wanted some features (Wifi Tethering, Custom Alerts), so I tried the custom ROM route.
The only thing I've been able to successfully install on it is the TELUS Test ROM, and upgrade it to NODO using Zune (Mango updates failed - I think because it wants a newer firmware, which I have the cab files, but they fail installing)
The Telus Test ROM that I had downloaded uses firmware 22.50.09.10402.661 and bootloader: 1.4.2250.2 (113577).
If I try to install RSPL/HSPL right now, the phone does not restart after completion, thus never gets into RSPL mode to do HSPL.
I recall trying to use RUU to put on Cingular ROM, however it always failed, I believe saying that Vendor ID is invalid.
I'm really frustrated with this, but I don't know how to move forward to install RSPL/HSPL.
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steps to solve all of your problem
cus your device originally on telus network , you cannot install Cingular while you have locked bootlooader
solution :
1- search in forums about , unlocking boot loder
2- unlock your bootloader ( you know that your bootloader is unlocked when u see on the top of your screen , "security unlocked" when you enter the boot screen (4 colored screen)
3- install Cingular ROM and you will succeed in that after u unlock your bootloader\
4- using spl tools now u can unlock spl to get HSPL
5- install cerebellum 7.8 ROM that will find all features enabled on it ( internet sharing , etc)
and you don't need zune update anymore
note: you will find it hard to unlock your bootloader but it worth try
search in other devices forums , all are same
jimmy110 said:
steps to solve all of your problem
cus your device originally on telus network , you cannot install Cingular while you have locked bootlooader
solution :
1- search in forums about , unlocking boot loder
2- unlock your bootloader ( you know that your bootloader is unlocked when u see on the top of your screen , "security unlocked" when you enter the boot screen (4 colored screen)
3- install Cingular ROM and you will succeed in that after u unlock your bootloader\
4- using spl tools now u can unlock spl to get HSPL
5- install cerebellum 7.8 ROM that will find all features enabled on it ( internet sharing , etc)
and you don't need zune update anymore
note: you will find it hard to unlock your bootloader but it worth try
search in other devices forums , all are same
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I was under the impression that installing RSPL/HSPL was used to unlock the bootloader. Is this something different entirely?
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I was under the impression that installing RSPL/HSPL was used to unlock the bootloader. Is this something different entirely?
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RSPL/HSPL is unlock bootloader not deeply enough to allow you to change the hole operator ROM , (change from telus to cingular)
you have to full unlock bootloader
jimmy110 said:
RSPL/HSPL is unlock bootloader not deeply enough to allow you to change the hole operator ROM , (change from telus to cingular)
you have to full unlock bootloader
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Are there any good keywords I can use? unlock bootloader htc surround isn't working for me.
CrazyTegger said:
Are there any good keywords I can use? unlock bootloader htc surround isn't working for me.
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search for unlock bootloader generally not for htc surround ( surround is poorest forum )
and all are the same way
jimmy110 said:
search for unlock bootloader generally not for htc surround ( surround is poorest forum )
and all are the same way
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I'm really not finding anything useful here... I see a lot for Android, but nothing for an HTC Windows Phone. Are you referring to an IMEI unlock? ChevronWP7? Unbranding? Interop Unlock? WP7 Root Tools?
Thanks
I've now managed to developer unlock my Surround. What's the next step from here?