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So if you guys saw my review of the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 you know that one of the features that I would like to see on the TF is haptic feedback. It's a very smart idea. I had it on my galaxy tab 7" too and I really miss it.
I took apart my TF in hopes of finding the proper mounting spot for the haptic feedback mechanism. I included a picture of the motor. So not knowing anything about circuits, the best I could do is provide pictures of all the logic boards in hope that someone can point me in the right direction. Obviously this will require some soldering but that's not a big issue for me (unless it's too small). Mounting the vibrator isn't the issue. The issue I an having is WHERE can I mount it so that it actually functions when I tap the screen or use the on-screen keyboard. Where can I tap into? Please look at the pictures and let me know if you have an ideas. I don't mind being the guinea pig.
https://picasaweb.google.com/Ayman06/AsusTransformer
If more picture are needed then let me know. Picture were taken with my thunderbolts 8mp camera so hopefully they are good enough.
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Nowhere. If it wasn't designed for it, I can pretty much guarantee you that there's not a connection that conveniently sits there waiting to attach it to.
Thanks for the teardown pics, though.
The GT10.1 has this?!
akarol said:
The GT10.1 has this?!
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Yes. GT10.1 has a vibrator.
m u s t - - r e s i s t . . . \"/
dorino1 said:
Yes. GT10.1 has a vibrator.
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UKseagull said:
m u s t r e s i s t . . .
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Resist you must not.
Honestly I do not know why you like this useless feature. It is a battery drainer and annoying.
Digiguest said:
Resist you must not.
Honestly I do not know why you like this useless feature. It is a battery drainer and annoying.
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The vibrator a useless feature?... Tell that to my girlfriend...
No wonder the gtab 10.1 was such a turn on
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I am pretty sure the Iconia has a vibrate function too.
No wonder the gtab 10.1 was such a turn on
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Get yer coat .... and shut the door on your way out!
Apologies to the OP, gone off track somewhat.
UKseagull said:
Get yer coat .... and shut the door on your way out!
Apologies to the OP, gone off track somewhat.
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Eh, the question was answered. The Transformer doesn't really have any room for a motor. Not how it's built -- After all, it's made to be thin and small.
I wonder if any of those USB vibrators would work with the ports on the keyboard dock?
You very nearly had me Googling for a USB vibrator .... nearly!
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Nowhere. If it wasn't designed for it, I can pretty much guarantee you that there's not a connection that conveniently sits there waiting to attach it to.
Thanks for the teardown pics, though.
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The iPad didn't come with a camera yet it had the perfect spot for one. The Samsung vibrant didn't come with a camera but it was easy to snap one in. Just cuz a feature didn't make the final cut doesn't mean it wasnt initial designed to handle it- they probably removed it to safe money and bring the cost down.
The question isn't about room. There is plenty of room. Obviously if samung can fit a small motor inside then the galaxy tab (which is nearly half the size of the TF) then one in the TF is not an issue.
Anyway, ill consider this topic dead. Keep talking about women and vibrators
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ayman07 said:
Anyway, ill consider this topic dead. Keep talking about women and vibrators
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Nobody was talking about women.
you can checkout this DIY Haptic method I came up with back in my G-Tab days. Might work with the ASUS. Worked really well with my G-Tab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908344
toddmp said:
you can checkout this DIY Haptic method I came up with back in my G-Tab days. Might work with the ASUS. Worked really well with my G-Tab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908344
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So basically we're using low-frequency bass to simulate vibration. Great idea.
toddmp said:
you can checkout this DIY Haptic method I came up with back in my G-Tab days. Might work with the ASUS. Worked really well with my G-Tab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908344
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interesting...will look into it later.
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Resist you must not.
Honestly I do not know why you like this useless feature. It is a battery drainer and annoying.
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I guess you've never played a game with the vibration feature enabled? Huge difference... Think Nintendo controllers vs. Xbox 360 I wish the Transformer has a vibrator.
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'Sup XDA. I've been dying to get induction charging on my Nexus S since I got a Touchpad. Even found someone who did it over at androidcentral. Have all the parts.
I know full well that I am completely responsible for any screw-up I happen to do.
Now that that's out of the way, I just need to figure out which pins to solder to. HERE is the teardown and just wanted pointed out which pins I should take the soldering iron to. Any help appreciated.
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Induction charging?! Can you post a link to that article? Interested.
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Induction charging?! Can you post a link to that article? Interested.
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...-s-4g-near-field-communication-preserved.html
He didn't take pics the first time around and said he didn't want to open it up to take pics. I just need to figure out which points to solder to. I have everything already here.
Here is one someone did (with video) to their Galaxy S. Looks clean!! I would love to do this mod.
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod/
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Here is one someone did (with video) to their Galaxy S. Looks clean!! I would love to do this mod.
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod/
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Can we get by with soldering only one wire in the Nexus S as well? Provide 0V using the sim card tray?
I'm totally thinking I'm gona do this
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wish I would have kept the back from my palm pre, I do still have a couple touchstones though. Might be cool to put an NFC tag in the touchstone to launch the dock mode. Might do this if I am feeling adventurous one day.
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wish I would have kept the back from my palm pre, I do still have a couple touchstones though. Might be cool to put an NFC tag in the touchstone to launch the dock mode. Might do this if I am feeling adventurous one day.
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Can you just program any passive tag for that? Should just be a step of sticking it on right?
Wow, this looks awesome.
But if I understood correctly the problem, the NFC antenna must always remain between the inductive antenna and the battery. I haven't tried, but it seems that the NFC antenna can be simply removed. Wouldn't the inductive antenna fit between the NFC antenna and the case? That way it would all fit inside, leaving the awesome exterior untouched.
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Wow, this looks awesome.
But if I understood correctly the problem, the NFC antenna must always remain between the inductive antenna and the battery. I haven't tried, but it seems that the NFC antenna can be simply removed. Wouldn't the inductive antenna fit between the NFC antenna and the case? That way it would all fit inside, leaving the awesome exterior untouched.
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There's a risk that the antenna would have 5V running through it and consequently through the NFC radio/parts, etc. if you keep the coil inside the case behind the NFC tag.
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Can you just program any passive tag for that? Should just be a step of sticking it on right?
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I think so. I havn't messed around with an NFC task launcher, but I remember reading a thread where people were using an NFC tag to launch car mode when placed into a car dock. Should just need to buy a tag and set it up with an NFC launcher.
Does anyone else noticed the back of their Nexus 7 being ever so slightly curved? Not that this is something that would bother me, but when I place it on a table it is able to have just enough rock to it that swiping my finger with it or plugging a cable into it will pull the device in the direction of the tension.
(Moderators, I originally put this in Q&A, but since I realized it isn't so much a Q&A thread, I put it here in general. You can delete the Q&A one)
EDIT: Video comparison I just made - http://youtu.be/EhS7-KTwn4g
I believe it is designed that way so the speakers don't sit flat.
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Osiris19 said:
I believe it is designed that way so the speakers don't sit flat.
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But it is down the vertical spine of the device, not the horizontal one. Plus the speaker grills are placed on the curve of the devices edge, so laying flat shouldn't be much of a problem anyway.
Not sure then. I just tried it with mine and I don't have that problem.
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Not sure then. I just tried it with mine and I don't have that problem.
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I just made a video of it. I put the new Nexus 7 next to the old Nexus 7.
http://youtu.be/EhS7-KTwn4g
The back is indeed slightly curved... In the words of Will Graham, "this is by design"
Oh, I wasn't sure what you meant by that. I thought you meant if you pressed down on the top or bottom edge it would rock.
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Best buy just refused to exchange it and wouldn't even try another device to see if it also did it, claiming it is a design choice (clearly she was on the ASUS/Google development team). Nor would they PM with the Staples coupon after the fact (but I can understand that one). She was just very rude and dismissive.
I just laid mine down on a marble counter. It sits flat. Only the edges are tapered for the speakers. Its pretty sturdy.
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Yes! Somebody else notices. I was using my tablet in class today vertically and it kept turning horizontal. I noticed that the back isn't completely flat which is causing it to have movement when I lay it on a flat service.
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Yes! Somebody else notices. I was using my tablet in class today vertically and it kept turning horizontal. I noticed that the back isn't completely flat which is causing it to have movement when I lay it on a flat service.
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Yeah, It might not be a huge "issue" (as the comment on my video says), but it is very annoying, especially considering I like to have the charger plugged in when I'm on it at times, and if there is any tension on the cord from where it is plugged in to where I am sitting, it will pull the tablet toward it.
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I just laid mine down on a marble counter. It sits flat. Only the edges are tapered for the speakers. Its pretty sturdy.
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Can you push it with your finger and spin it like the videos in this thread?
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Can you push it with your finger and spin it like the videos in this thread?
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Nope. Mines pretty flat. Even on my desk, nightstand, table. No spins.
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why you need it to spin...
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why you need it to spin...
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I don't want it to spin.
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I don't want it to spin.
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Oh... I thought you might want to find some fun in cases,
Man! If I hadn't seen these videos I would have never noticed!
Contemplating exchanging it, but my screen is perfect and zero hardware glitches others have experienced.
Hmm...
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Man! If I hadn't seen these videos I would have never noticed!
Contemplating exchanging it, but my screen is perfect and zero hardware glitches others have experienced.
Hmm...
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I didn't really notice either until I had it plugged in and kept pulling away from me. Then I noticed it when I would swipe the screen. It really is annoying but I don't know how widespread the problem is and it is hard to gauge from the limited responses in this thread so far.
this really shows how far people are willing to go to find something to complain about..
slightly curved back that allows your device to spin freely when on a perfectly flat surface... really?
people in this world will never be happy ever.
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this really shows how far people are willing to go to find something to complain about..
slightly curved back that allows your device to spin freely when on a perfectly flat surface... really?
people in this world will never be happy ever.
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Lol... This.
I tried to replicate, but I did not experience anything like that. I'm going with it's by design. It's in my hand 99% of the time anyway so I don't care.
Hi All,
I have recently backed this kickstarter project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...le-worlds-most-versatile-stands/?ref=kicktraq
It seems awesome and exactly what I am looking for but I am now concerned about the neodymium magnet attached to the back of my N7. I searched the internet and XDA but although I found concerns I found no valid conclusions about if a magnet like this attached to my device, not on a case, would cause any issues.
I see some people made some mounts that involved neodymium magnets, but it seemed like the device was connected to the magnets for short periods off times (car mounts) not long term/24-7/permanently like with this stand that seems so awesome to me!
Why no responses??
Any idea why there have been no responses? I would have posted this in the accessories section, but when I indicated it was a question I was told to post it here in Q&A.
I have seen that a few years ago people posted neodymium magnets would not be safe to tablets, but I wonder if that is still the case. Is there potential for screen damage? data storage damage? GPS interference? by having the magnet attached to the tablet, instead of on a case.
Does this also mean, that if I do get this product and the magnet is attached to me tablet, I can't have the tablet near my laptop (which has a regular hard drive or credit cards?
Thanks!
me personally, i would never have any magnets anywhere near my electronics no matter who or what says.
but the project and its devs seem safe as indicated on their page. just keep in mind it's your risk
Those magnets shouldn't harm anything. The only issue I can think of would be accidentally locking the device with the magnet.
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Those magnets shouldn't harm anything. The only issue I can think of would be accidentally locking the device with the magnet.
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ok stupid question from a stupid person....if the magnet accidentally locked the device how would I be able to unlock it?
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ok stupid question from a stupid person....if the magnet accidentally locked the device how would I be able to unlock it?
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By pressing the power button just like how you would normally wake the device. Or by moving the tablet away from the magnet should automatically wake it.
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By pressing the power button just like how you would normally wake the device. Or by moving the tablet away from the magnet should automatically wake it.
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Got it!! I thought so...but just needed to verify!
Hopefully with the magnet being attached to the tablet it won't cause any issues. With the bigger/stronger magnet on the stand and the smaller magnet being on the back of the tablet I should have no issues with just separating the two!!
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!
Can't wait for my stand!!!!!
I bought the official flip case. It has a magnet in the front. Unfortunately Moto have used a rather powerful neodinium magnet. So, your phones magnetometer will follow the edge of the case around rather than true north!!!! This doesn't matter for gps navigation, but for on foot travel, and any augmented reality apps that use the compass this case will make the behave oddly.
I don't know what the long term effect on the phones compass will be, but I don't expect it to be good.
In addition, but for me I think it is a small risk, this magnet will be capable of damaging some computer storage mediums and possibly, wiping swipe card data...
I have no idea why they chose to use such an aggressive magnet. I can hang the phone from a metal bar with it, no problem.
Just thought I would share....
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I bought the official flip case. It has a magnet in the front. Unfortunately Moto have used a rather powerful neodinium magnet. So, your phones magnetometer will follow the edge of the case around rather than true north!!!! This doesn't matter for gps navigation, but for on foot travel, and any augmented reality apps that use the compass this case will make the behave oddly.
I don't know what the long term effect on the phones compass will be, but I don't expect it to be good.
In addition, but for me I think it is a small risk, this magnet will be capable of damaging some computer storage mediums and possibly, wiping swipe card data...
I have no idea why they chose to use such an aggressive magnet. I can hang the phone from a metal bar with it, no problem.
Just thought I would share....
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Good to know, i had my worries about this as well. Putting a magnet over the phone 24/7 didn't seem like a good idea
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Good to know, i had my worries about this as well. Putting a magnet over the phone 24/7 didn't seem like a good idea
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its great for storing your phone on the fridge door though.. wtf were Motorola and google thinking. I think I'm going to complain and see what they say
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its great for storing your phone on the fridge door though.. wtf were Motorola and google thinking. I think I'm going to complain and see what they say
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Yes sir, you should that. It is ridiculous to make such design mistake on an official case. I was about to buy one but after reading your story I am not sure anymore. Keep us posted.
Btw; you can contact Motorola via their official app Moto Care.
Glad to know, that I am not the only one who is concerned about that magnet. By the way there are two magnets. A weak one to trigger the screen on/off and a strong magnet to keep the case closed.
After removing the strong magnet you will be able to use the compass with the cover flipped to the backside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiSdys0zYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Edit: The strong magnet was on the lower third, where the cut is visible.
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TIL that official Moto accessory screws up Moto phone. But look at the good side: you can now keep it on your fridge door!
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TIL that official Moto accessory screws up Moto phone. But look at the good side: you can now keep it on your fridge door!
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spoke to moto care. sent them screen shots of the magnetometer all messed up. They said they will get back to me, but no one else has reported issues... *cough* bull**** *cough...
I have noticed today that even when I remove the case, the magnetic sensor is all messed up. It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
evidently, part of the cheap price is a lack of proper beta testing of the phone and accessories....
I have ordered one from amazon. Now I will sent it back. I have my concerns too so I wont even try it.
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It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
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With GPS Status from Play Store you can force recalibration.
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I can also confirm this. I have a white flip case but stopped using it after a week as it got in the way. I just put it back on and sure enough my compass was exhibiting the same issue. How did they miss this?
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Recalibrating the compass with the GPS toolbox app seemed to have fix this issue for me
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rec71 said:
I can also confirm this. I have a white flip case but stopped using it after a week as it got in the way. I just put it back on and sure enough my compass was exhibiting the same issue. How did they miss this?
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there is a small metal square on the inside of the flip cases backcase. I 'think' this is intended to shield the sensor from the magnet when the case is open. It clearly is TOTALLY inadequate to the task. I'm speculating this is what the metal square is for, as it corresponds in position exactly with one of the magnets in the case door, and this metal square is not present on the normal back case..
Simply lazy design and testing... why does it even need a magnet to stay closed :/ its like closing a book with a magnet lol, they get along fine without them!!!!
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spoke to moto care. sent them screen shots of the magnetometer all messed up. They said they will get back to me, but no one else has reported issues... *cough* bull**** *cough...
I have noticed today that even when I remove the case, the magnetic sensor is all messed up. It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..
evidently, part of the cheap price is a lack of proper beta testing of the phone and accessories....
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Any update from moto care?
eddiem74 said:
Any update from moto care?
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still waiting. Sent them a chaser..ill update
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We regret that there is no possible solution. Compasses operate by magnetic field, and any interference with any compass magnet. There is no way around this.
If you are using a Motorola original case, rest assured that will not hurt your terminal. Imam to close the lid affects the compass but not strong enough to damage the terminal or delete any internal memory power. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We regret that there is no possible solution. Compasses operate by magnetic field, and any interference with any compass magnet. There is no way around this.
If you are using a Motorola original case, rest assured that will not hurt your terminal. Imam to close the lid affects the compass but not strong enough to damage the terminal or delete any internal memory power. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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I don't understand, are you saying you work for motorola? was this a response you got from motorola??
Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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I don't understand, are you saying you work for motorola? was this a response you got from motorola??
Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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This is the response from Motorola.
helppme said:
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Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.
Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
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As long as the flip shell is folded completely over (so it is flush with the back) my wife's compass works flawlessly. It's actually better than my n4. As I only have one sample to go off of I'm not saying this issue is being over hyped but it isn't always an issue
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As long as the flip shell is folded completely over (so it is flush with the back) my wife's compass works flawlessly. It's actually better than my n4. As I only have one sample to go off of I'm not saying this issue is being over hyped but it isn't always an issue
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I've tried it this way. If you fold it completely flat, and line it up to the millemeter, the compass works about 50% well. It generally adjusts to north, but it flicks back and forth between north and where the magnet is on the case. You can also see the gauss meter jumping around a lot.
I suspect the magnetic power of the magnets in the case vary a large amount they wont be very expensive ones after all..