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Phone processor and RAM

I want to buy an Android phone.. but I keep on hearing people saying that this one has too less ram.. the other one has a bad processor
Everyone wants a tegra with 512 ram
Now my question is for the ones that have android devices or to the ones that KNOW what they're talking about.. WHICH are the real disadvantages of 528mhz processor and 192 ram (or the i7500 128ram) are they really that bad?
and where are they felt most? Just in the games or even in the day to day use (UI)?

zenderady said:
I want to buy an Android phone.. but I keep on hearing people saying that this one has too less ram.. the other one has a bad processor
Everyone wants a tegra with 512 ram
Now my question is for the ones that have android devices or to the ones that KNOW what they're talking about.. WHICH are the real disadvantages of 528mhz processor and 192 ram (or the i7500 128ram) are they really that bad?
and where are they felt most? Just in the games or even in the day to day use (UI)?
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the cpu is pretty good, especially if you are using one of those clocking apps, to actually set it to run at 528mhz.
The limiting factor is the amount of ram. 192 ram is pretty much the bare minimum. Of the 192 megs, only 98 megs is available to linux, the rest is for the radio, frame buffers, etc. Its not really enough for multi-tasking.
One of the big complaints that people have is the browser having to reload web pages when you go to other apps and come back. This is because there isn't enough RAM to have both the browser pages in memory and other apps at the same time so it gets offloaded.
If you can get the 288 meg version of the htc magic, I would go for that instead. There is a 192 meg version as well.
Or wait for the htc hero, which will also have 288 megs of RAM.

There is none with a bad processor. They all have the same processor and it is a fine chip.

but if I don't want to multi task.. and use one app at a time.. will it ever get sluggish with 192mb? What I want from the phone is a snappy UI. when I press the messages button take me there IMEDIATELY

zenderady said:
but if I don't want to multi task.. and use one app at a time.. will it ever get sluggish with 192mb? What I want from the phone is a snappy UI. when I press the messages button take me there IMEDIATELY
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UI is pretty snappy, especially if you root your phone and load one of the custom ROMS like cyanogens. Those are extremely fast.
Even if you use the stock image, its still pretty good.

For the average user, this phone is more than enough. Just go to the T-Mobile store and mess around with one of their G1's up for demo. It is very fast, and 192MB of RAM is still considered a hefty amount and greater than most smartphones and in addition the 528Mhz processor.

also do you guys think you can add to it multi touch?

zenderady said:
also do you guys think you can add to it multi touch?
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There's a hack that adds a very primitive Multi-Touch to the HTC Dream/G1 and the HTC Magic, but it's not the greatest. The HTC Hero is going to have real Multi-Touch and a nice web browser to take full advantage of it. It might be a while before 3rd party apps start to use Multi-Touch features though. If you don't mind the absence of a physical keyboard, I would wait for the Hero to come out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529611
If you need the physical keyboard, then I wood root/hack a G1/Dream and install one of Cyanogen's roms for full snappiness.

I am seriously thinking of getting the samsung galaxy, but I see very few people that are eager to get their hands on that device. is there something wrong with that phone?

zenderady said:
I am seriously thinking of getting the samsung galaxy, but I see very few people that are eager to get their hands on that device. is there something wrong with that phone?
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Too less ram and the brand is not good in my mind

I Think what it comes down to is Keyboard or no keyboard.. & Then get the g1 or the magic.. Samsung makes great TV's, But I am not nearly as impressed with there PDA's.. Also you would think with a touchscreen the trackball is useless, but I Find it to be a very useful input device.. For 1 handed operation it allows me to hold the phone with the same hand I am using to navigate with & without it being quirky to do..

[Angry] Multitasking on Android is totally rubbish!

This is just so annoying.
I was playing a game on FPSE during the lunch break. At 13:30, back to work, did not have the opportunity to save my game. Nevermind, I just put the telephone on screen saver / lock screen so that I can continue later, after the work.
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Meanwhile I received a text. Fine, I can read it and possibly answer to it... Android is supposed to hadle multitask rather well after all.
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Pwned.
After texting, back to FPSE, just to check and make sure that it's still on... Just to notice that the app has been killed by Android...
This is sooo annoying. It's supposed to be mobile phone specialized in gaming. You should be able to interrupt your game to answer a call or a message!!!
I previously owned a Nokia N8 Powered by Symbian^3. It was much much more efficient. Could lauch many apps without worrying of the multitaking. Apps where running in the background, not simply killed by the OS...
Any similar experience to share guys? (or solution, but I doubt there is any...)

What you are experiencing is the brilliant idea of putting a small amount of ram into a android gaming phone (well thought out, Sony). When the ram is low and another app needs to use that ram, Android will automatically kill another app to claim free ram. The problem Android has is it uses Java as the base programming language. The problem with Java is it is a resource hog and totally steals as much ram as possible...see the problem yet? Also, the problem Sony has is that they are stupid.
And now for the reasons. Google choose Java as the base because of its popularity and ease of use for noobs at programming, which is also why there are so many bad apps in the Google Market compared to the iphone. While this was a smart choice for Google at the time to help accelerate their market growth to help catch up with the ios market, it's now a problem they'll always have as a consequence to that choice. To counter this problem of having a horrible base program language android phones constantly needs to have ridiculous specs in order to have comparable performance to the iphone (quad core, gig of ram, phones anyone?).
So there you have it, the core and unavoidable problem with Android. An operating system so inefficient that it warrants quad cores with close to pc specs (That is amazingly bad). So bad that they must've been really high when the folks at Sony thought it was a good idea that a GAMING phone would only need a single core with crap ram. Well played.

So what you are saying is, the entire Android platform is garbage because you made that decision with a garbage phone? Try multitasking on the SG3, then come back. Or, go deal with the fake multitasking of iOS.

you can try supercharger, n use multitasking choice, that's the best multitasking option that i ever try, altough it will makes your free RAM under 70 MB, but multitasking is very great....

DubleJayJ said:
So what you are saying is, the entire Android platform is garbage because you made that decision with a garbage phone? Try multitasking on the SG3, then come back. Or, go deal with the fake multitasking of iOS.
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All I'm saying is Android is inefficient. This is generally known and Google has been constantly criticized because of it. Going back to my point, this is why manufactures are pushing out quads on their phones.

@cityhunter62
@coreyon
So, why are you even here?

narflynn619 said:
@cityhunter62
@coreyon
So, why are you even here?
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I provided information on the problem...? I think a better question would be why are YOU here? You didn't provide anything on this thread.

just wonder if V6 supercharger bulletproof app might help?

Tje great thing about android is that normally there is an app for whatevet you need or a flashable zip or a script ect so it just takes a quick search and abitta time and you could be tip top and there's allways the quick save feature in fpse
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narflynn619 said:
@cityhunter62
@coreyon
So, why are you even here?
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Coreyon answered to my question and I thank him for that. Now I understand why multitasking does not work on Android, or at least on Android phones with few ram. Still, N8 had 256mb ram but handled multitasking perfectly.
Anyway, mathacer and foryou168 gave some advices that might be helpful. I had some answers, that was the point of this thread...
I'm sure I'm not the only one who experienced that kind of problem...

coreyon said:
All I'm saying is Android is inefficient. This is generally known and Google has been constantly criticized because of it. Going back to my point, this is why manufactures are pushing out quads on their phones.
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Inefficient because it ran out of RAM? OEM's are pushing for quads because the software and Linux foundation is the most advanced out there. No other mobile is has such supreme multitasking and such a myriad of emulation apps.
Enable zRAM or use a swap partition if you expect this low-RAM device to keep a 32-bit-era console emulator in the background while doing phone functions.
Or get a tablet for gaming. Its still just a smartphone dude.
Or get an iPhone.
Or learn development and help the "horrible android" to be better.
Sent from Xperia Play (R800a) with Tapatalk

Just don't say that android is rubbish,.. it's awesome.. And it's open.. we can customize our phone to our need... that's make it different..
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Android is insufficient, but on my Galaxy S3 samsungs multitasking is absolutely terrible for 1GB, but now once I flashed the Multitaskingfix I have to say its like multitasking on a 2GB android device, I love it! and in the latest leak (with Multi view, etc) XXELK4 4.1.2 the ram used is almost half of what is used on 4.1.1, Love you samsung! can't say that about Sony, but Xperia play will always be with me until I get use to Touch screen gaming.

For everyone that somehow got offended when I said Android is inefficient, please read on. Android IS inefficient, but that does not mean it's a bad operating system. I personally use it myself. It's certainly better than ios with Apples lockdown. The great positives of Android is that it uses the Linux kernel which is very advanced, and the entire operating system itself is very customizable (partly thanks to java it self).
Now with that said, like I've mentioned I don't know how many times now, it will always have a problem as apps and games become more and more advanced; there will always be the new apps that pushes the hardware to a new level and with the Android overhead will cause it to be slower than it could be. A good example of this is how Minecraft (with its amazingly bad graphics) on the PC needs Crysis-like specs to play with good fps on a PC. That's ridiculous, and it's because the game runs in Java. I know there is Minecraft for Android, but let's be honest it's a very very small map that barely has any of the pc gameplay, otherwise the phone would explode. However, just like Android, even with Minecraft's horrible lag issues it is still an awesome game, and is very easy to customize the game which is also very awesome. Does everyone understand my point now?
CosmicDan said:
Or learn development and help the "horrible android" to be better.
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I AM a developer, and I have had the pleasure of struggling with Java's limitation on a multiple array of platforms. I do know what I'm talking about, it's a well known issue.

I'm personally suprised Java is still alive
Thought it would have died years ago because java programs would be slow as molasses/bog down any PC.
So I'm surprised it actually runs decently on phones... tho the phones are more powerful than PCs from a few years ago lol
And yeah, its' the same old cycle.
Software always gets bloated as hardware specs increase so it's tough to get ahead - kinda like how inflation negates pay raises

coreyon said:
I AM a developer, and I have had the pleasure of struggling with Java's limitation on a multiple array of platforms. I do know what I'm talking about, it's a well known issue.
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I can agree from my experience with Java software, especially the security concerns. I heard a saying: hell is a world where Java is the only programming language. I'm more annoyed by Google trying to do things different and separating itself from Linux standard.
I have to say you are very lucky to present your thoughts here, if this was a Nexus forum all hell would break loose. The Nexus fanboys are relentless.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

eksasol said:
I can agree from my experience with Java software, especially the security concerns. I heard a saying: hell is a world where Java is the only programming language. I'm more annoyed by Google trying to do things different and separating itself from Linux standard.
I have to say you are very lucky to present your thoughts here, if this was a Nexus forum all hell would break loose. The Nexus fanboys are relentless.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Aha, I should've made a thread for this. This went way off topic from the original purpose of the thread.

JAVA OS?
I thought IOS apps were Java also?
Either way, they have similar "multitasking", except that the programmer can control how an Android app "moves through the states" (ie. from pause when its in background to being killed) so if the FPSE programmers took advantage of the power of Android OS, they could have set the game to do a save as it was killed...
In fact, Android AUTOMATICALLY dumps some of the programs memory when killed involuntarily (the OS needs more RAM) so really, all the programmer needs to do is check to see if there is a bundle already there when the programs oncreate() is (re)called - if so, then resume!
developer[dot]android[dot]com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/recreating.html
For the record I hate Java, and more so - ECLIPSE (Java IDE that was also itself made in Java) makes me want to shoot myself in the face whilst listening to Enya and letting spiders crawl on my testicles.

Hicsy said:
I thought IOS apps were Java also?
Either way, they have similar "multitasking", except that the programmer can control how an Android app "moves through the states" (ie. from pause when its in background to being killed) so if the FPSE programmers took advantage of the power of Android OS, they could have set the game to do a save as it was killed...
In fact, Android AUTOMATICALLY dumps some of the programs memory when killed involuntarily (the OS needs more RAM) so really, all the programmer needs to do is check to see if there is a bundle already there when the programs oncreate() is (re)called - if so, then resume!
developer[dot]android[dot]com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/recreating.html
For the record I hate Java, and more so - ECLIPSE (Java IDE that was also itself made in Java) makes me want to shoot myself in the face whilst listening to Enya and letting spiders crawl on my testicles.
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I don't touch ios even with a 50 foot pole, but I'm pretty sure ios apps don't use Java. Even if they did, the core operating system doesn't, and that's enough to make a huge impact difference in performance.

I heard about some developer porting Android to C+. By passing all those legal issues with Microsoft, if Android ran on C+ wouldn't it fix all the lag much like Project Butter has and evidently fixed the incredible RAM usage by the device?

[Q] I sould buy the nexus or....

I sould buy the Nexus 4 or the LG Optimus G?
i'm dont know what to buy, i really like the Optimus G he get a lot of memory and very very intresting OP with cool features,
but the thing that i'm very concerned of is that the nexus is more pupolar and he's the first to get the android update, and he get a huge developer community, what do you think, what i sould buy?
and forget about the price lets say that both of them are the same.....

Yarin1312 said:
I sould buy the Nexus 4 or the LG Optimus G?
i'm dont know what to buy, i really like the Optimus G he get a lot of memory and very very intresting OP with cool features,
but the thing that i'm very concerned of is that the nexus is more pupolar and he's the first to get the android update, and he get a huge developer community, what do you think, what i sould buy?
and forget about the price lets say that both of them are the same.....
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It's your choice buddy, if you want a large amount of memoy take the G, - about memory, i can tell you that for my usage the 16 Gb of the N4 is really not enough, I mean I have several music, two FLAC album, 1 movie (700Mb), plus my titnium backup, (no nand backup), some little HD Games (~30-40 MB, angry birds, etc...) and I have 3 GB left, it's not enough cause I can't put interesting HD Games at the same time, like GTA VC+3, Need for speed, real racing, shadow gun, let's golf, (at the beginning, I use to put 1 or 2, and uninstall/install another when I like, ut it's really annoying)... it's really short - but if you want a really powerful android device, go for N4, and you'll get th best software support ever,

As said above, it comes down to what you are looking for in a device. I myself love to mess with roms and tweaks. I don't have more than 1Gb of music on my N4, and no movies, and 3-4 simple games. Only thing I care about is enough space for photos, which I usually save on my MacBook once a month, and for my nandroid backups and roms/tweaks. So, I choose the huge developing community behind N4, and the freedom that it gives me to do what I like with the device.
N4 has an excellent screen, is really well built (compared to my other device Galaxy S4), has a good camera and good battery life. On the other hand you can't (easily) change the battery and no sd card to expand the memory.
So, it's up to you to decide wich one you like best.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium.

arc_u said:
It's your choice buddy, if you want a large amount of memoy take the G, - about memory, i can tell you that for my usage the 16 Gb of the N4 is really not enough, I mean I have several music, two FLAC album, 1 movie (700Mb), plus my titnium backup, (no nand backup), some little HD Games (~30-40 MB, angry birds, etc...) and I have 3 GB left, it's not enough cause I can't put interesting HD Games at the same time, like GTA VC+3, Need for speed, real racing, shadow gun, let's golf, (at the beginning, I use to put 1 or 2, and uninstall/install another when I like, ut it's really annoying)... it's really short - but if you want a really powerful android device, go for N4, and you'll get th best software support ever,
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Dropbox,Google Drive....then you won't have that problem. I have pictures,roms,movies,videos all that to my Dropbox
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4

arc_u said:
It's your choice buddy, if you want a large amount of memoy take the G, - about memory, i can tell you that for my usage the 16 Gb of the N4 is really not enough, I mean I have several music, two FLAC album, 1 movie (700Mb), plus my titnium backup, (no nand backup), some little HD Games (~30-40 MB, angry birds, etc...) and I have 3 GB left, it's not enough cause I can't put interesting HD Games at the same time, like GTA VC+3, Need for speed, real racing, shadow gun, let's golf, (at the beginning, I use to put 1 or 2, and uninstall/install another when I like, ut it's really annoying)... it's really short - but if you want a really powerful android device, go for N4, and you'll get th best software support ever,
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The optimus G is not powerful as the N4??
its not only about memory i concorened beucase is not pupolar as the N4 like here, there is forum for N4 but there is no forum for OPTIMUS G,
its look like no one really buy him and he look pretty well....

Yarin1312 said:
I sould buy the Nexus 4 or the LG Optimus G?
i'm dont know what to buy, i really like the Optimus G he get a lot of memory and very very intresting OP with cool features,
but the thing that i'm very concerned of is that the nexus is more pupolar and he's the first to get the android update, and he get a huge developer community, what do you think, what i sould buy?
and forget about the price lets say that both of them are the same.....
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For me personally,I will never own any other phone but a Nexus.
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4

tennandcoz1 said:
For me personally,I will never own any other phone but a Nexus.
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
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I will have to agree with tennandcoz1 on that. Even on my Galaxy S4, I'm running 4.2.2 Google Edition rom (Jamal2367 V13 today!). So I can have great battery life, simple-clean-fast-smooth android experience!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium.

tennandcoz1 said:
Dropbox,Google Drive....then you won't have that problem. I have pictures,roms,movies,videos all that to my Dropbox
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
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Agreed. Cloud storage is your friend.

Yarin1312 said:
The optimus G is not powerful as the N4??
its not only about memory i concorened beucase is not pupolar as the N4 like here, there is forum for N4 but there is no forum for OPTIMUS G,
its look like no one really buy him and he look pretty well....
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better that way, hope LG gets the message. in a perfect world you let people do what they do best. lg makes great phones, google makes a great OS, xda developers build great extensions. every second LG wastes by trying to screw with that it should be their loss. seriously, there has not been a device with that much support, the n4 is a very special thing.

This lack of expandable memory was really a sticking point for me with the N4 as well.. I came from an S2 Skyrocket which I loved, and was seriously looking at the S3 as my next phone..
This lack of SD slot and replaceable battery had been a huge negative stuck in my head ( from ancient apple ipod days most likely)
Once I sat down and really looked at it, I never even used the expanded memory on the SII.. Sure I had a 32GB SD in there, but in combined storage, I never came close to the 16GB.
ROMS - I had 2-3 Nandroid backups on there, but most roms I played around with I simply deleted..
Music - Pandora and Google Music - Didnt store any locally.
Pictures / Videos - Went str8 to dropbox, would clear the small cache on the phone (1-2GB) every few months
Apps and Games - Same as roms.. Might download tons to try out, but typically only set into 2-3 GB worth of "daily drivers" that stick around
And the battery, its still on the original one and going strong, so that I never technically "used" either.
Once I sat down and looked at things this way, getting the N4 was a no-brainier ( esp due to the price premium for the S3 in my situation)

Back to XP guys

I haven't been posting on these forums for a few months now as I got my Xperia Z and JXD S7300 so they were meeting my android needs. My XP had its original battery installed and was resigned to the drawer under my bed since then.
I have however, become bored with my Z and the battery life on it is shocking. Also, if the battery dies it takes ages to get it to come back on for some reason, some sort of hardware fault by Sony.
Anyway, long story short, I gave the Z to my missus (as she had a crappy Nokia Lumia WinMo phone) and have dug out my XP again. I installed my 3600mAh battery again and it is currently charging. It's on Atomic rom at the mo but tomorrow I will be installing the latest NXT rom, repartitioning my spare 32gb sd for link2sd and getting back to gaming heaven on the Play.
Basically I missed the ease of use with the Play. I'll still be using my JXD as 1080p gaming on my plasma tv is great but the Mali gpu is a funny one. On paper it should be faster than Adreno but games like Most wanted and RR3 are significantly laggier than they are on the Play. Jet Set Radio runs at full speed though!
Also, with devs like Catfishblues still highlighting "Xperia Play Optimized" (I just bought Hyperwave ) the Play isn't dead yet!!
Long live the Xperia Play :victory:

BensJammin said:
I haven't been posting on these forums for a few months now as I got my Xperia Z and JXD S7300 so they were meeting my android needs. My XP had its original battery installed and was resigned to the drawer under my bed since then.
I have however, become bored with my Z and the battery life on it is shocking. Also, if the battery dies it takes ages to get it to come back on for some reason, some sort of hardware fault by Sony.
Anyway, long story short, I gave the Z to my missus (as she had a crappy Nokia Lumia WinMo phone) and have dug out my XP again. I installed my 3600mAh battery again and it is currently charging. It's on Atomic rom at the mo but tomorrow I will be installing the latest NXT rom, repartitioning my spare 32gb sd for link2sd and getting back to gaming heaven on the Play.
Basically I missed the ease of use with the Play. I'll still be using my JXD as 1080p gaming on my plasma tv is great but the Mali gpu is a funny one. On paper it should be faster than Adreno but games like Most wanted and RR3 are significantly laggier than they are on the Play. Jet Set Radio runs at full speed though!
Also, with devs like Catfishblues still highlighting "Xperia Play Optimized" (I just bought Hyperwave ) the Play isn't dead yet!!
Long live the Xperia Play :victory:
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I've also just gone back to my Play after wrestling between my GS3 and iPhone 5. Just can't beat the integrated physical controls and customization of Android.
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I did exactly the same thing, but people called me crazy then.
Was using the Z along with a moga controller but the battery life was to much of a drain.
Also I had a couple of moments I did have battery life to play, but my moga ran out of battery...
Not to forget that the quad core CPU @ 1.5 Ghz did not let me emulate anything new or better.
So Iam back with the play.
Kind regards, Stefan.

I've finally ditched my Play as my daily phone, as the internal storage and general slowness when multitasking was just too much for an everyday phone. I went from the Play, to the One X, to now the One. I still pop in my sim card when I go on road trips or vacation though.. nothing beats it for emulator gaming.

dassub said:
I've finally ditched my Play as my daily phone, as the internal storage and general slowness when multitasking was just too much for an everyday phone. I went from the Play, to the One X, to now the One. I still pop in my sim card when I go on road trips or vacation though.. nothing beats it for emulator gaming.
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Internal storage on mine is not an issue with Link2Sd. I have a large collection of games installed like Asphalt 6+7, After Burner (a known memory eater), MC3, Nova 3, Most Wanted etc and I still have 220mb internal storage. Speed wise my phone is overclocked to 1.8ghz and using the interactivex governer so it hits 1.8 immediately if I try to do something. Flicking between screens, opening apps etc are pretty much exactly the same as the Xperia Z. Im not convinced by this whole "quad core is faster" business at the mo. Its like in the PC world. More cores are great for benchmarking, but if an app is only coded to use one core then the rest are redundant, meaning clock speed becomes priority. Snapdragon is pretty damn fast on its own so whereby it may be old, it still can compete.
And this isn't me going by speculation. I have an Xperia Z sitting in front of me right now and I can say that with everyday usage there is hardly a discernable difference in speed between the 2 phones. On Atomic Rom I had the homescreens etc looking exactly the same and the thing I noticed the most was how washed out the Z screen actually is, whether it has something to do with the waterproofing I dont know, but the contrast is far better on the Play.
Just my 2 pence

BensJammin said:
Internal storage on mine is not an issue with Link2Sd. I have a large collection of games installed like Asphalt 6+7, After Burner (a known memory eater), MC3, Nova 3, Most Wanted etc and I still have 220mb internal storage. Speed wise my phone is overclocked to 1.8ghz and using the interactivex governer so it hits 1.8 immediately if I try to do something. Flicking between screens, opening apps etc are pretty much exactly the same as the Xperia Z. Im not convinced by this whole "quad core is faster" business at the mo. Its like in the PC world. More cores are great for benchmarking, but if an app is only coded to use one core then the rest are redundant, meaning clock speed becomes priority. Snapdragon is pretty damn fast on its own so whereby it may be old, it still can compete.
And this isn't me going by speculation. I have an Xperia Z sitting in front of me right now and I can say that with everyday usage there is hardly a discernable difference in speed between the 2 phones. On Atomic Rom I had the homescreens etc looking exactly the same and the thing I noticed the most was how washed out the Z screen actually is, whether it has something to do with the waterproofing I dont know, but the contrast is far better on the Play.
Just my 2 pence
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Link2Sd sounds intriguing for my issues, I have a 32GB micro sd card (class 10). But don't kid yourself, the phone is super slow in daily use compared to my HTC One (and even my One X). Just taking a picture there's a half second lag, or opening the web browser. Everything on the One is instant, but Play not so much (and my Play is rooted with all bloatware removed).

dassub said:
Link2Sd sounds intriguing for my issues, I have a 32GB micro sd card (class 10). But don't kid yourself, the phone is super slow in daily use compared to my HTC One (and even my One X). Just taking a picture there's a half second lag, or opening the web browser. Everything on the One is instant, but Play not so much (and my Play is rooted with all bloatware removed).
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Honestly, overclock the crap out of the play. Makes such a difference. Had mine at 1.8ghz for ages and no issues whatsoever. If I click on the camera icon it opens in less than half a second and the only slowness taking the photo is the autofocus. My Xperia z was meant to be up there with the fastest phones and it definitely is not £300 worth faster (or whatever it costs now).
However I can fully appreciate why people are moving on from it. Im just saying that my experiences with 'better' phones have ended fruitless!
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I've got a Galaxy S3 as my main phone, but I still keep my XP around for mobile gaming. I just installed Cola 6, which not only speeds things up, but it does things like booting into airplane mode. The XP is still one of the best emulator devices out there, by far.

hehe
Yes, xperia play is not dead

track the multitasking

I want to create a sort of track of multitasking on pixel 2/xl on the next updates.
I'm pretty sure that 4g of ram that's not enough on 2018 with Android Oreo , I have various mobiles with 6gb/8gb of ram and I can really see the differences regarding the ram management.
So i do love stock Android, I love fast updates , I love the really good camera that Google put on this, but 2018 with 4gb of ram? With the next updates we'll have more features so I'm thinking that is gonna be worse.
So I just you guys to track the next updates to see if we're gonna to have better ram management.
Otherwise I'm going to Neve ever buy Google pixel mobiles ,
They'll only fool me once.

lima002 said:
I want to create a sort of track of multitasking on pixel 2/xl on the next updates.
I'm pretty sure that 4g of ram that's not enough on 2018 with Android Oreo , I have various mobiles with 6gb/8gb of ram and I can really see the differences regarding the ram management.
So i do love stock Android, I love fast updates , I love the really good camera that Google put on this, but 2018 with 4gb of ram? With the next updates we'll have more features so I'm thinking that is gonna be worse.
So I just you guys to track the next updates to see if we're gonna to have better ram management.
Otherwise I'm going to Neve ever buy Google pixel mobiles ,
They'll only fool me once.
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I'm happy with this amount of ram. I can be driving getting navigation, listening to music, getting a phone call or sending a voice text and everything is perfectly smooth. I don't feel fooled
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pixelsquish said:
I'm happy with this amount of ram. I can be driving getting navigation, listening to music, getting a phone call or sending a voice text and everything is perfectly smooth. I don't feel fooled
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Well that's 5 apps opened, every 2gb of ram mobile can do that too, but just try more apps and chrome with lots of pages opened and you'll see.
Don't get me wrong he loads apps very fast the same level of iPhone x with bionic 11

lima002 said:
Well that's 5 apps opened, every 2gb of ram mobile can do that too, but just try more apps and chrome with lots of pages opened and you'll see.
Don't get me wrong he loads apps very fast the same level of iPhone x with bionic 11
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Why will u leave pages open in chrome.... The max I ever used were 10... And didn't see Amy issues... Also I don't keep them open all the time... When dome... Close all tabs and move on....
I don't for the best of !e see any1 sane using more than 4apps at once ..

Well sometimes I do a lot of search I let opened and do my work and return later, and that with ,and,calls,insta, Twitter etc and with a total of maybe 12 apps and he'll began to reload.
And others mobile that I have I do the same and doesn't reloads often like that, I'm Tolking about 6gb or 8gb mobiles

Yup i have definetly noticed it
But it reloads quickly it doesn't matter but yea it is noticeable
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What other mobile devices do you own that you are comparing the Pixel 2 XL to?

Sometimes i wonder what people did with so many apps left opened behind,
At most, when doing some image and video campaign edit to be posted on social media or web, i'll only have 5-6 apps opened. And it still leave around 200-300 MB of RAM left,
With today's 4G speed, i dont feel the need of keeping that many app opened anymore,
As long as my draft of notes/article writings and my photo edits stay intact in the background for around 30-60 minutes, am fine
Why should i keep my game opened if i already finished the round ? Or youtube when am not actually watching or listen to RED ? Anything unused should be killed right away anyway.
Used to have 6GB in OP3 but never found it totally used. Well maybe, i gonna need it, in next one or two years. But maybe not as well