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Android + Existing Phones = ??

Yeah, Google has just announced that Android is a platform there is no real GPhone. ok. I'm sure a lot of us are more than interested in getting this platform on our existing phone.
My question to those who understand the internals of our existing HTC phones. Is there hope for us to scrap WinMo and put Android instead. Their website makes it sound like it can be done.
What do you think?

I don't know the answer to that, but it sure seems like it, e specially since Sprint and other carriers are also joining hte Open handset alliance, they may provide support for linking Android with their services and configuration. I can't wait.

Wasn't there a pooled $$ reward that someone set up for the first person who could get Win XP running on the new Intel macs (prior to bootcamp). I suggest a similar motivational scheme (if necessary) to compensate whoever can accomplish a similar feat: getting Android to run on existing HTC hardware.
Anyone interested?

That would be super cool. I mean, I really can't wait...
What if we start a fund-raiser managed by the admins to request donations from members towards the reward? I'm sure that would be even more motivating.

Pool
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.

MWillis561 said:
I would love to start a pool too! The only problem is there are too many devices to support. With getting XP to run on an Intel mac, they all run the same hardware. My Athena is a lot different then somebodies universal or wizard. I'm guessing it will be just like the efforts to port linux over to our handsets. I'm hoping for my device to be able to run it but it would be a huge effort to be able to support all the devices.
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It may not be that hard (theoretically) because they (OHA) did all the ground work of getting linux to run on our devices. The work (I think) is in dealing with the customizations for each device. The min requirements they stated seem well below what most of our devices are capable of, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Maybe we'll just have to wait until a device from HTC with that ROM comes out.
WARNING!! I absolutely am talking out of no knowlege.

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HTC and Google are working together to release a new phone that will run on the Android platform. The phone will reportedly have a 3- by 5-inch swivel screen like the SideKick that will automatically rotate from portrait to landscape. It will have a full QWERTY keyboard as well, but the coolest part about the phone is the "time-sensitive" touch menus that will expand depending on how long the users touch the screen.
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.

TT_boy said:
According to Engadget Mobile, this should show up sometime in the second half of 2008.
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The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa

It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well... Maybe we shall have better support when Android comes out.

dferreira said:
It is possible, but as far as I know it, it didn't work quite well...
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It was still not bad, when you consider that the code
is actually written without any docs from manufacturer
by 1 person (cp15).
Just look in the xda-dev archive.

TT_boy said:
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Actually, further speculation concludes that this is the correct rendering of that phone.

cr2 said:
The tears are coming into my eyes. It was already possible
to use Blueangel as a linux phone two years ago without any help from HTC
http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa
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Think of this though, we're struggling at the moment dealing with stability and functionality issues with WinMo on our devices made for that platform. How much more with a totally alien OS coded by a single individual. In as much as I think it was a great achievement, I do not think it was a workable substitute for WinMo. This however presents a huge posibility ..... my .02.

[APP] FpseCE v0.09.6 (most awaiting psp emulator for ppc).OUT NOW

FpseCE v0.09.6 (Freeware)
Requirements: PocketPC 2002, PocketPC 2003, SE, PocketPC WM5.0. The Dell Axim x50v/x51v is recommended to get best performance. A minimum of at least 16MB is recommended.
Overview: Amazing PSX Emu for PPC:
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You need PSX bios files and PSX games to run the emu in your PPC Have fun to all...
here it is BIOS files
http://rapidshare.com/files/248163390/Playstation_Bios_Files.zip

looking nice,
too bad that devices like diamond barely can play due to the loss of key combinations for special movements :\

This is way old and even my X51V is too slow for this..

here is the my first iso game only 7mb compressed
http://rapidshare.com/files/248176028/_PSX__Wanted__PAL-E_.rar
and well its way old emulator but its 9.6 beta released which is not more than a week old... and it comes with many bugs fixed.. maybe ur device slow toco

thnx
thnx brother, excellent application ..
and the link u'v mentioned for is games is really a heaven, but i cant see ripped versions there.
Actually, i have a Kaiser, and the games on that link are 400mb+ which my 1gb card cant afford and it would take a long to download those files aswell.
any links for games upto 40-50mb's ??
thanks alot again.

are the bios files legal to distribute freely??? otoh i dont there is anyone who did not have the PS hardware

what format do the game need to be in? bin/cue, iso?

also how do we install? just put on memory card? do we install xguru.cab for the DOP folder?

I believe the distribution/linking of the BIOS file is illegal, a moderator better take care of this... other than that, nice news
update:
instead of the free hoster, someone might also check the official page at http://www.fpsece.net/

Kojote1980 said:
I believe the distribution/linking of the BIOS file is illegal, a moderator better take care of this... other than that, nice news
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ZOMG run and hide.
Seriously though, there's a ton of bios files there, which one's which? Which one i choose when I launch the emu?

DarkDvr said:
ZOMG run and hide.
Seriously though, there's a ton of bios files there, which one's which? Which one i choose when I launch the emu?
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Officially, the one you personally downloaded from a console you own. Unofficially - any should do.
As for the emu itself - that's not really news since this beta has been out since the beginning of 2007 and i bet it's been discussed more than once around here. It is NOT the upcoming and awaited 0.1.0 release. In my opinion this thread should be closed.

hmmmm...
Actually, version 0.9.6 has been out for quite a long time (one year? Don't know, but I started using FpseCE and its 0.9.6 version about 6 months ago)
Schtruck and LDchen have been working on the next version (1.0) for quite a long time, I have been beta testing this 1.0 version since March
http://www.youtube.com/user/i900frenchaddict to see the videos of my beta tests on FpseCE 1.0

Hmmmm ...
i've downloaded Version 0.9.6 and tested on Touch HD. But only the screen showing version number and the "old school" console is displaying. can't do anything. seems it's missing hardware buttons?
any ideas? (and it looks like it's only vga, not wvga supported)
version 1.0 is available somewhere?

1: You can't distribute a BIOS; it's considered as warez
2: It's a PSX emulator, NOT PSP.

eventho my wish is quite stupid...but can u help me...i already search for final fantasy 7/8 in the market...but cant find it....most of the shop only sales XBOX 360,PS2 and PS 3 games....plz help me....anyone who played the Final Fantasy on Pocket pc...plz give me the ISO..also i need the ISO for leagend of the dragoon...realy need it.....THX in advance

News: FPse Droid v0.10.48 Stable vers. for Xplay - Square-Enix Imaginary Range Pics

Two news:
First for every user of Xplay:
FPSE 0.10.48 is the best version capable to launch any games i tried so far.
Specially Square-enix Title like Chrono Cross or Valkyrie profile with voice fixed and no lag.
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Also you can play a fantastic title named Capcom Vs SNK NEO and the control is really accurate
Second for every android system owner:
Square enix did an announcement earlier this week about the famous Imaginary Range being nearly available For Free for Android device.
hopefully pretty soon
Here is some pics of an android device running the game from the official site:
More info there: http://blog.jp.square-enix.com/imrb/
I just hope that more and more japanese company will come to android platform and specially the Sony Xplay

Speaking of Square Titles. How does FPSE handle FF8 / FF9? . Would you be able to Test Either of these games? I was having issues with both of these using psx4droid.
Thanks for the Imaginary Range update though . I love Squarsoft ! (Err. Enix_)

There is a fix for Final fantasy games on FPSE that need to be done
Just google this and u will find many information out there

thanks kenshindono , actually just read about known issues,
Thank you anyways!

I just paid $5 for this app yesterday and can't get it to work.
It asks me to select the BIOS then keeps asking me to select it.

That's because you need to give it the proper BIOS to run the games.

Could u give a link to where i could get the iso/rom for the second pic

first link: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=962&q=bios+psx+planetemu&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
MAster224 said:
Could u give a link to where i could get the iso/rom for the second pic
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first link: http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&s...rama+capcom+vs+snk+neo+psx&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

kenshindono said:
FPSE 0.10.48 is the best version capable to launch any games i tried so far.
Specially Square-enix Title like Chrono Cross or Valkyrie profile with voice fixed and no lag.
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What do you mean by "voice fixed"? Valkyrie Profile's developers smartly inserted synchronization "checks" via the game's voice sound files into multiple parts of the games to prevent emulators from progressing further into the game. The first "check" is near the beginning of the game, where Lenneth and Freya are about to teleport down below into Midgard.
Are you saying that version 0.10.48 is able to bypass these "checks"? I have not been able to get version 0.10.48 to bypass these "checks". And for the record, I have not been able to get the lastest version, 0.10.54, to bypass these checks either.
Were you able to do so?

Uhm ist this imaginary thing a game , just wondering cause i read its something like a novel
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boxkillor said:
Uhm ist this imaginary thing a game , just wondering cause i read its something like a novel
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Think of it as a comic with mini games

b9610778 said:
What do you mean by "voice fixed"? Valkyrie Profile's developers smartly inserted synchronization "checks" via the game's voice sound files into multiple parts of the games to prevent emulators from progressing further into the game. The first "check" is near the beginning of the game, where Lenneth and Freya are about to teleport down below into Midgard.
Are you saying that version 0.10.48 is able to bypass these "checks"? I have not been able to get version 0.10.48 to bypass these "checks". And for the record, I have not been able to get the lastest version, 0.10.54, to bypass these checks either.
Were you able to do so?
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bump, still waiting for an answer.

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bump, still waiting for an answer.
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I tried Valkyrie profile with the latest version of fpse, it wont go past the first bit where you meet some floating woman, the game hasnt crashed as you can press LT to bring up a box with text in, but it will not progress any further

AndroHero said:
I tried Valkyrie profile with the latest version of fpse, it wont go past the first bit where you meet some floating woman, the game hasnt crashed as you can press LT to bring up a box with text in, but it will not progress any further
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As expected, because you were at the first "check" that I had described in my first post. The game did not continue because simply emulating a PS1 is not likely to pass the "checks".
OP seemed to have implied that v0.10.48 has a way to bypass the "checks", but I am not sure and have not found a way myself. So, I am asking for clarification.

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[Q] Windows 8

The new windows 8 will have arm tegra support, will I be able to install windows 8 on my xoom?

we'll see when it comes out.

The first public beta should be out within a month or so, and if you know where to look you should be able to find the very early alpha/beta leaks. I have no idea what level of work would be required to boot it on existing hardware or even if it's possible with the kit we have today

As far as I know, the main idea of windows 8 was the ability to run on a MUCH LARGER range of devices and architectures. They demoed win 8 on a ARM tablet a long time ago. Who knows what they have accomplished since then. All i know is that we would have a lot of re-partitioning to do on our xooms to fit win 8 on our limited /system partitions. But then again, idk if it will run on a Linux kernel. I only know the basics.
Just my 2¢

It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.

Vistaus said:
It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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I totally forgot about it being closed source. >.> ....Well if win8 is put on a tegra device nativley(spelling?), then could porting it to our device be easier?

Yes, then it would be easier. Someone ported WebOS to an Android-phone that had nearly the same hardware despite being closed source, so it COULD be possible if it was put on Tegra2. But I doubt that, since Kal El is coming.

Its not windows 8 running on tegra...its the drivers....i don;t know who is gonna go through all the troubles making specific drivers for xoom...only thing i could hope for is that windows 8 has a big database for generic drivers that works...

well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?

kenfly said:
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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As per Engadget's review of win 8
ARM devices will be supported, but not in the developer preview
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrcz7zcm_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I have the dev build, if I put it on a usb stick can't I just set my xoom to boot from usb
Kidding, Kidding. Anyway, I was thinking that since the xoom supports USB host, and should supports ARM, it should be installable like a normal computer if you can somehow boot the installer - and assuming there is at least basic driver support for the necessities.
I suppose they would also need to release an ARM build.

in essence yes
or even if there is a running arm version all we would really need is the install.wim...nothing else is really super important
But I am thinking that Microsoft is being strict with ARM because they may be designing it specifically for oems, so they may not have a general vendor license like with Microsoft laptops/computer/netbook

Yes Win8 will support ARM. No, the current dev build does not contain that code. The build number will be higher, they don't even have the setup done for ARM support yet. Windows 8 is not Windows 7 and will not be bound by the same restrictions when it comes to hardware as previous Windows versions have been. This includes application development. It will be easier then ever to create applications by simply using HTML5 and CSS3 for example.
When Windows 8 ARM support code does make its way into our hands I will be pushing this onto Tegra2 (Atrix4G) hardware asap. Stay tuned, because as soon as MS gives me the code I'm working on the port/drivers. Because these devices are SoC's you are not going to run into the same level of hardware issues with drivers as you may have previously. With a SoC, your support for that ARM SoC will/should include support for the entire SoC, nothing less. You should expect that at least. This includes, audio, video, network, etc. Everything is included on chip now. Welcome to the future folks. Forget what you thought it took to build a computer and realize that now everything is built onto a single chip die. It's really impressive. So impressive that IBM is now stacking these SoC's together with 3M adhesive which dessipates heat. This means you can have a CPU up to 1000 times faster than we have now and still not use up hardly any power or physical space in the package. Times are changing for sure.
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windows 10 mobile to android

can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer

ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.

darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS
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Does that explain why windows phone has 80% market share? Oh wait...

recently MS released WM10 roms for mi phones which worked really well , so if we are able to tweak those roms and firmware , we might be able to port them to other android devices

I would rather looking forward to run Windows 10 Mobile on Android Device.
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I hope we see growth in this type of emulation. Just look at Winulator. That project had so much promise but it was just 1 guy and he abandoned it citing problems with piracy. If that app was perfected you could literally run 99% of directx games ever made natively on any decently powered Android device without having to buy a Surface or some other overpriced MS product. MS still has the gaming industry by the balls, has been that way since we were forced to go to windows 95 because games were developed that wouldn't run on 3.11 anymore.

You can install ANDROID on Lumia Devices now https://youtu.be/cRt575WRzt8

Lololololololol
darkfires said:
I have no idea why you would even want to do that, what a waste of a perfectly good phone that would be. Android SUCKS, having said that I'm fairly certain nobody has done that yet (and even if they did manage to, it will be plagued with driver issues). If you are really serious about running Android stuff on it, I would look at the Android for Windows bridge, some people have got a bunch of apps running on top of win10m.
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LOOOOOOL ---- Why dont you check Android sales -vs- windows phone sale and see who the winner is?! I'm willing to bet $5000 cash that anything you can do on your windows phone I can do better, faster, & more complete with my Android. In other words, put your money where your mouth is!
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You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?

Convert Windows to Android
ashishakash said:
can anyone please tell me the way to convert windows phone to android...????
my phone is lumia 730 dual sim ..i have seen lot of links and searched a lot but i cant find and any answer
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In my opinion you should not convert your windows phone to an android. Rather you should buy a new android phone. But if you really are not open to buying a new one so try this Android View App. In this way you can at least get the Android UI on your windows phone.

AiOGajo said:
You can't have 10 apps on the home screen showing live notifications (live tiles) has the Windows 10 mobile does...
When will you pay me?
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uh yeah you pretty much can. depends on what you mean by "live tiles" but there are def launchers with live icons and if you really wanted to you could code a live tile launcher that works exactly the same without too much trouble. i had a nokia lumina 710 running wp7 years ago. it was an awful piece of garbage. there was no app development for it at all (not even instagram lol) and even after modding there was very little you could do with it. im sure the platform has progressed since then but nothing beats the huge amount of rom and app dev for android. android is definitely the most flexible and capable mobile operating system but i wouldnt mind having a little side chick windows phone to play with.
as for OP.....yeah probably not gonna happen anytime soon. nobody has time to completely rewrite all the drivers and kernels and firmware and what not from the ground up as is necessary for running an operating system that is systemically varied from the software the hardware was made with in mind. someone mentioned that there was some kind of official builds for some devices and they are right its possible those roms could be ported or something, def your best hope but dont hold your breath