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Sorry if this is a stupid question guys, but I've just bought a HD2 with the energy rom already on it, what is this and why is it better than the standard rom?
Hi,
You have 100% right - it is stupid question.
ROM - It's another name for operating system with drivers and settings, its a compilation.
Why You use Win XP on Your desktop instead of Windows 3.11 ?
! Because it's better, it's faster, more intuitive, more stable, it's.....
Each ROM is developed for some reason - somebody fix something or change few things.
In my case HTC gives a sh_ _ on me with ROM updates for my region / country - Only thing to do was to flash unofficial ROM.
Read, then ask question.
wow, thats the way to make a neebie welcome. I know you guys want people to read and search more before posting but come on... Im glad not everone is like that.
I also have a couple of newbie questions but ill post in about 6 months after ive read every single post on the site to make sure no one hs asked the question before.
RReckless
Don't make a evil daemon from me , I start with joke , then gently tell what is what and why with ROM, and on the end give a good advice to search and read before asking.
know it all geeks
dont worry bout him mate u always get some gimp know it all like him on here theres lots of helpful people on here 2
perhaps I should've worded it better, I've haven't had a standard hd2 as it was like this when I bought it, but I meant what is different on the energy rom to standard? also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket
bazvw205 said:
perhaps I should've worded it better, I've haven't had a standard hd2 as it was like this when I bought it, but I meant what is different on the energy rom to standard? also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket
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In regards to your Energy ROM question, I've been to the HD2 ROM forum (couple of clicks back from this one) and the top posting is the Energy ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
There is a brief outline of the advantages, straight from the developer themselves.
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I also have a couple of newbie questions but ill post in about 6 months after ive read every single post on the site to make sure no one hs asked the question before.
RReckless
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make sure you DO
its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again.
That is what SEARCH is for.
bazvw205 said:
also is there asetting to lock the keypad when I press the bottom left phone button? mine just turns the screen off but all you have to do is repress it and your back on, I've already called someone in my pocket
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Lock the phone manually by pressing the start button then tap LOCK (at the bottom of the screen), then next time the screen goes off it will lock automatically.
Audio Oblivion said:
make sure you DO
its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again.
That is what SEARCH is for.
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what exactly do you mean by "regulars?" Is this how "regulars" welcome a new user on this forum?
i don't see why "regulars" like you, act like you are getting paid that a noob redundant question annoys you. You are not even obligated to answer any questions that you do not feel like answering.
din0_22 said:
what exactly do you mean by "regulars?" Is this how "regulars" welcome a new user on this forum?
i don't see why "regulars" like you, act like you are getting paid that a noob redundant question annoys you. You are not even obligated to answer any questions that you do not feel like answering.
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well put.... I say, as an xda noob
Bandare said:
well put.... I say, as an xda noob
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The reason regulars are like that is it wastes everyone's time when you ask the same questions over and over.
It wastes the noob's time typing the message when a simple search up the top can answer it in a few clicks.
It wastes the noob's and the regular's time by making them sift through pages of redundant threads rather than having new original issues - if a noob has an original issue, it may take ages for someone to find it to answer, thats if they manage to find it at all.
A lot of noobs tend to ask the redundant question without searching, then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply. This would move it above an issue that may well have a higher importance, yet it would have been quicker for them to search than to trawl through and find their thread to reply to.
If noobs did more searching, we wouldn't have to keep explaining the reasons why we ask noobs to search every time they don't.
rp-x1 said:
The reason regulars are like that is it wastes everyone's time when you ask the same questions over and over.
It wastes the noob's time typing the message when a simple search up the top can answer it in a few clicks.
It wastes the noob's and the regular's time by making them sift through pages of redundant threads rather than having new original issues - if a noob has an original issue, it may take ages for someone to find it to answer, thats if they manage to find it at all.
A lot of noobs tend to ask the redundant question without searching, then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply. This would move it above an issue that may well have a higher importance, yet it would have been quicker for them to search than to trawl through and find their thread to reply to.
If noobs did more searching, we wouldn't have to keep explaining the reasons why we ask noobs to search every time they don't.
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Having said the above, let's pretend a newbie have joined the forum today and have asked a question that may have been asked and solved already or better yet asked something that a no brainer can do.
Does that make it annoying for "regulars" already? Your explanation sounds more like you are saying that "regulars" are obligated to answer questions from a noob, yet it is not.
and you said ---> "then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply." <---- and these kind of things affect the so called "regulars"? Does it hurt??? that you need to harass a newbie?
My reaction would be, so what if it moved several times??? I've seen a lot of a very old post that is being answered to this date.
din0_22 said:
Having said the above, let's pretend a newbie have joined the forum today and have asked a question that may have been asked and solved already or better yet asked something that a no brainer can do.
Does that make it annoying for "regulars" already? Your explanation sounds more like you are saying that "regulars" are obligated to answer questions from a noob, yet it is not.
and you said ---> "then when the thread moves through several pages, they bump it with a "no one going to help!?!" reply." <---- and these kind of things affect the so called "regulars"? Does it hurt??? that you need to harass a newbie?
My reaction would be, so what if it moved several times??? I've seen a lot of a very old post that is being answered to this date.
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Theres no need for your reaction here.
Just ask yourself this... why is there a sticky thread right at the top of this forum that tells people how to use search?
Audio Oblivion said:
Theres no need for your reaction here.
Just ask yourself this... why is there a sticky thread right at the top of this forum that tells people how to use search?
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That sticky serves as guide to a do a search, because not all users know how to use search.
My point is, you and the rest of the so called "regulars" act like they have the right to harass or treat newbies like they did have no education at all.
It doesn't mean you see "newbie or junior member" then they should be treated this way.
There's another way of saying things like "Hey man, try searching the forum by using this" instead of "make sure you DO its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again."
din0_22 said:
That sticky serves as guide to a do a search, because not all users know how to use search.
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Have you even read that sticky?
It says... and i quote "Remember, please search first before posting on XDA. It is highly likely that your issue/problem has been mentioned before and a solution is at hand."
din0_22 said:
My point is, you and the rest of the so called "regulars" act like they have the right to harass or treat newbies like they did have no education at all.
It doesn't mean you see "newbie or junior member" then they should be treated this way.
There's another way of saying things like "Hey man, try searching the forum by using this" instead of "make sure you DO its extremely annoying for the regulars on this site to keep seeing the same noob questions asked over and over again."
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The way people come across on internet forums is not necessarily how they would come across in a real life conversation. For example... my reading of your posts in this thread gives me the image of you jumping up and down ranting like a madman. Kind of like Animal out of the muppets...
Thats not really you is it?
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Have you even read that sticky?
It says... and i quote "Remember, please search first before posting on XDA. It is highly likely that your issue/problem has been mentioned before and a solution is at hand."
The way people come across on internet forums is not necessarily how they would come across in a real life conversation. For example... my reading of your posts in this thread gives me the image of you jumping up and down ranting like a madman. Kind of like Animal out of the muppets...
Thats not really you is it?
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you are missing the point. =) you just made me laugh by calling me and referring me to "names like that". I don't remember saying something absurd about you personally.
din0_22 said:
you are missing the point. =) you just made me laugh by calling me and referring me to "names like that". I don't remember saying something absurd about you personally.
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you see... that is my point
im not insulting you intentionally... just telling you how you come across to me... but you have taken it as an insult :-(
Just to re-iterate... my original post here (ie/ telling the noobs to use search) was not intended as any kind of harassment... just a solid nudge in the direction of the search function.
I mean theres a moderater sticky saying the exact same thing i am saying!
Granted his words might seem friendlier then mine but look at the post i was replying to. Theres an example of someone using sarcasm to try and make the point that it takes too much time to search.
The reason it takes a long time to search is because noobs DONT search and post the same questions over and over. Its an endless circle of death.
Audio Oblivion said:
you see... that is my point
im not insulting you intentionally... just telling you how you come across to me... but you have taken it as an insult :-(
Just to re-iterate... my original post here (ie/ telling the noobs to use search) was not intended as any kind of harassment... just a solid nudge in the direction of the search function.
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"Great to see that there is another side of yourself".. after all.
and oh yeah, there is a nicer way to put it instead of the "a solid nudge in the direction of the search function". In case you do not know, feel free to ask me.
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and oh yeah, there is a nicer way to put it instead of the "a solid nudge in the direction of the search function". In case you do not know, feel free to ask me.
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no... i know there is... but again... read what i was replying to. I thought my post appropriate and i stand by it. :thumbup:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been a longtime member with a very low post count. Unless you're the first or second person to download a rom and notice a secific bug to report, the community is large enough that very rarely do you need to post as someone else already has.
Not to mention its a self perpetuating problem. If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
Typical rant.
You opened a new thread, clogging the front page just like those you hate.
The words you speak will never truly reach those who don't read before posting... by definition.
Waste of time and space, get over yourself.
Why does this bother people so much. Ignore the threads/questions if you have an issue with them. Some people aren't aware of the resources. Being a prick about it doesn't help. These same rants have been done over and over and over...
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What a SHOCKER! Another typical "non-typical" rant.
But, you know, you're right. No one should be allowed to post until they've read all 3000+ posts in this forum. No one is allowed to ask other's opinions on the best ROM. No one is allowed to think differently than you.
Wanna know why the HTC side is so good? It's not because HTC releases source code (You should have seen the community in the early days before anyone released code). It's because the users are helpful. They contribute. They don't rant.
You, and users like you, are the reason the community is falling apart. Get in there and answer some questions. Contribute. Post to the useful threads so they stay close to the top. Add to the Wiki. Don't sit around and complain. These forums are for everyone, not just you.
You have only 12 posts, and the only thing you can contribute is "restart your phone" or "use a different USB cable?"
Here's my plea for the mods to lock this thread before we spiral out of control. What do you mean, it's too late?
compuw22c said:
If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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Or, you could post a like to the wiki, pointing the noobs in the right direction. Answer the question and the thread falls to the bottom, and useful stuff with high post counts rise to the top.
Here's an example:
"Hey man, totally get where you're coming from. Rooting seems tricky, but it's not. Here's the guides in the wiki. It's got most of your questions answered. The search is useful if you can't find it there. Glad to have you on XDA.
But I guess it's much more useful to post inane responses on useless threads. Crap floats.
ms79723 said:
A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
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I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
I'm also one of those old members with years of lurking experience, because i know to search. But, at the same time, i don't tell people to do it. He'll i barley give advice... Mainly because i just come here, give rep, and get what info I need and then leave.
Let the forums grow i say... the more questions are asked, the easier they can be answered later, because of the keywords aspect. If someone doesnt know the keywords, they will ask a question with wrong ones, and then get corrected. and later down the line, someone searching with the same wrong keywords can find the answer... At least i hope it works out like that, i would like to think it does to some degree...
Anyways... my 2c
The only problem I have with searching is this: my laptop crashed a while back so I haver to search with the phone and xda app. The xda app search sucks. It brings up irrelevant posts. So since i can't use the search feature, unless I go to the site through the web browser, I just read the wiki and search post by post lol. I am for the side that says, if you don't like the post don't read it. Be helpful, not insane. Some attitudes on here are equivalent to some one coming up to you on a street, new to the town, and asking where mcdonalds is, and some of your responses would be: Look up in the sky for the big f?%#ing golden arches before I shot you in the head with my glock. That is a little over board. I say search, but if the didn't don't get mad.
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JettMartinez said:
I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
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Man, more people are familiar with school than the internet...and in school you usually ask the teachers questions before you whip out your book to find the answer. Most people also try to act like themselves online like they do in real life...and since in a real life situation there more likely to ask a question than search for the answer...so first instinct would probably be asking that question, that is, if you arent used to forums (specifically this one).
Very serious business.
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flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
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This.
When you see question, give an answer. At least point them to the wiki so they can learn the things to search for.
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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+1....100%
This is just about the most typical rant you can find on this board.. 1000 miles away from non typical
Elite11b said:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Can a brother get a carriage return?
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Failing to search occurs in ANY forum out there. The difference with the Epic scene is we have more self-proclaimed moderators than any board I am a member of. There are simply too many people trigger happy to call out a “noob” who may or may not know what it is that they are looking for.
It’s a shame that we are so quick to assume that someone is lazy.
I am here several times a day. More often than not, you will see folks spending more time correcting other’s forum posting etiquette than actually helping or contributing. In the other forums I frequent (mostly cars), the members actually help one another and asking questions, regardless of them previously posted, is no problem at all.
Go figure, the forums where mistakes cost A LOT more money in damages is stress-free compared to one that can almost always be fixed with a good old odin.
I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I think you were saying what you felt and there is no harm in that. You were not out of line in the way you said it. It was simply something you felt like expressing.
I don’t believe your last sentence though. It contradicts your first sentence.
No it's true I just regret not being more specific about what I was saying. Anyway life is full of contradictions
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I don't have it i don't know anything about it I wanted to know more regarding it though. So the gods of this forum forgive me and my simple question. Is there something preventing us from being able to run it on the Fascinate. I know all the Galaxy S phones are different and all but having seen it on the Vibrant it seems so much better then the one we have and swype. So i put the question out there what is holding us back and where can i donate to make it happen lol
Did you even try searching?
Last time I checked we've had this for a while now...or am I crazy? I thought I was typing on it right now...
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It is a great keyboard... install it and enjoy it... just download the one from the market place... it has bugs
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Yea thanks for the witty responses guys sooo creative. Put the question out there got my answer. I was under the belief it was something more then a skin. As far as the market one(s) go any reccomendations?
@OP does this look like Q&A section to you?
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@OP does this look like Q&A section to you?
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To answer your ? No. Does it Matter? No.Its a forum regarding android development for the Verizon Fascinate. I ask if a Android 2.3 Gingberbread keyboard has been DEVELOPED for the Fascinate considering i haven't read anything regarding it. Its a perfectly valid question and by all means don't respond to it. Knowing i put the question is a public medium i can expect to get some good responses and some not so good ones. So no need to be a Troll. If this specific forum wasn't for questions then explain to me why there is a an option to denote in the topic of a newly opened thread that it is a question. So what ur trying to get at I don't know. I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community. Just sayin lol. We are all here for a good reason chill, relax, sit back we got a year till the world ends. You got plenty of time not to have Froyo by.
Here u go... enjoy....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...-as-an-apk-file-for-users-on-clair-and-froyo/
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If u have the beta froyo rom installed Then make sure u install the 2.2 version if u have 2.1 use That's one
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I appreciate it man thank you. Look, like i said my understanding was it was something that would have to be ported to the Fascinate. So why i asked the question. I know better now. Understand where i am coming from and we are cool
EDIT***Yea i say that i read into it quick and don't like the fact it won't do speed to text/ its ify for our phones. I think i am going to try it out and go from there.
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To answer your ? No. Does it Matter? No.Its a forum regarding android development for the Verizon Fascinate. I ask if a Android 2.3 Gingberbread keyboard has been DEVELOPED for the Fascinate considering i haven't read anything regarding it. Its a perfectly valid question and by all means don't respond to it. Knowing i put the question is a public medium i can expect to get some good responses and some not so good ones. So no need to be a Troll. If this specific forum wasn't for questions then explain to me why there is a an option to denote in the topic of a newly opened thread that it is a question. So what ur trying to get at I don't know. I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community. Just sayin lol. We are all here for a good reason chill, relax, sit back we got a year till the world ends. You got plenty of time not to have Froyo by.
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Maybe, before flipping out on other people, you should read the ****ing rules and post your questions in the general section. Or do some research on, I dunno, Google? You are the one perpetuating stupidity, as you put it, by not following simple guidelines for this DEVELOPMENT section.
Douche.
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Listen man I didn't flip out on anybody and resort to name callin like you. Grow up. I stated my side of things and again I noted in the first post if this topic has been covered my b. So to u too calm down. It's no big deal.
Edit1** And why u starting crap with me when I said nothing to you. Go go about ur own thing. The question was answered and ur sorry to say just beating the horse
Edit2*** btw show me where in the guidelines or "before posting read here" thread covers this topic. not like it is something beaten to death. So again where you come off as far as name calling. Holds no bar and doesn't speak well of you
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Listen man I didn't flip out on anybody and resort to name callin like you. Grow up. I stated my side of things and again I noted in the first post if this topic has been covered my b. So to u too calm down. It's no big deal.
Edit1** And why u starting crap with me when I said nothing to you. Go go about ur own thing. The question was answered and ur sorry to say just beating the horse
Edit2*** btw show me where in the guidelines or "before posting read here" thread covers this topic. not like it is something beaten to death. So again where you come off as far as name calling. Holds no bar and doesn't speak well of you
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I'll spell it out then: The development section is for development related threads. Threads about not knowing where the GingerBread keyboard is have nothing to do with development. At best, it belongs in the General Section, at worst the Themes and Apps sections. If I were a mod, I would have moved it myself. There are numerous threads describing searching - how to use the search tool for XDA, and that a Google search is also preferable before even thinking of posting a thread.
I apologize for losing my cool, you caught me on a bad day, it seems, but that does not excuse not bothering to search (or search hard enough) and it does not excuse making some drawn out connection between a question about a keyboard somehow related to development. As you can see by looking in the section, most (unfortunately not all) of the threads are regarding ROMs, kernels, developed applications, things of that nature. The reason you see so few question threads is because they get moved to the General Section.
Moral of the story, SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH, and if you have a question, it belongs in the General section. Again, sorry I lost my cool, but this sort of thing is getting out of hand. It's a Development section, not a "I couldn't find it" section.
Perfectly understandable man. But, and this is my last rebutle I offer because i feel we have reached somewhat of a common ground, again through my search no matter how extensive or not for that matter i was under the belief and understanding that the Gingerbread keyboard would have to pe developed for the Fascinate in order to correctly work. So i mean there is a no way to argue the knowledge i do or don't have or something i truly didn't understand. I put it forth in the first post it might be a dumb question and a simple answer would have been nice but again i knew what i was getting into. Also its not like the fourm has very high traffic with new developments. But i digress, so go easy and as i said before too this isn't like this a topic that is beaten to death here much like the ongoing Froyo things. But again thanks for being cool. Peace and Topic DEAD.
Aali1011 said:
I openly joked at it potentially being a already covered topic and from my understanding was simpler then it seem. So rather then try to make this into a big mess why not just give a nice response to the question rather then perpetuate stupidity in a online community.
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Yes, because making a joke justifies a selfish act of laziness. Posting questions in the correction section helps prevent a big mess. Not correcting people's mistakes in an online community would perpetuate stupidity and contribute to a "big mess." Just sayin lol.
Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks
P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.
+1!!
Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!
it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.
You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4
funeralthirst said:
it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.
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The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.
Know this. It isnt just these threads for this forum.
Its Apart of life and people get very fustrated with it. Case in point I had a guy call me at work and ask me how to work his computer.
Its people like this customer that make my head hurt.
He then proceed's to ask me how to get internet.
I say sir you must call att or timewarner or who ever can provide internet to you.
He then says " cant I just sign up over the internet with a credit card"
I think to myself "how in the hell are you going to sign up for internet over the internet when you do not have internet.
point of this is 1) its funny! 2) I get how you feel I use to get very fustrated with this sight. Some people just do not read or comprehend what we do. Other times I am just as dumb as they are.
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Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks
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You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4
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Both points, have hit the marks!
I started to search for the newbie's and just post them as answers to people that are new to this.
But if i don't have the time of my life (I have a family too, and i'm damn old for this, lol), then I would just answer but with a courteous and politely tell them to search next time.
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The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.
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LOL, yeah, G1 days was...umm... let's just say, it was 'busy'. Shoot, the Symbian forums in the olden days was the same. People pester me with updates and crap, and making this change, and do that.... Oy.
I agree with All~G1, sometimes there are 'certain users' who can't take a joke, or too serious, or just plain jerk. So those I do report to Mods and it does work wonders...
The problem is that people expect everyone else to take time to help them but don't take anytime to help themselves (ie, searching for a solution before asking for one)
Ill admit I'm a noob to the android bit but to the tech or fourm world but iv learned in my years the google and forum search are your best friends when learnong something new that's how I found this site. However I have noticed that some threads on here may have 1000+ replys and the forum search here as with most boards don't always put you close to the answer you need so and I can see how other noobs who really arnt familuar with forums like this could find it overwhelimg trying to go through that amount of posts
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Like any forum, search is your friend. You have a problem? First search and check stickies before asking. Them are the laws of the internets plain and simple. I'm not the most educated when it comes to android, but I try and answer questions the best I can to help out. When I see pages 1,2 and three of general chat all asking for help about kies update to 2.2, I get pissed too.
I think vibrant members are on the nicer side of the spectrum.
I understand using search isn't that hard, but new users may not be familiar to vbulletin forums and search feautures, but yes most of them don't even bother.
i went from stock 2.1 to rooted 2.2 flagship v4 just by using the search button. getting pissed might be going a bit far, but they do deserve a good jerkin!
I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from
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I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from
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Lol automagically... i'm writing that one down
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P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.
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A little bit but you are right, I don't know why but the Vibrant crowd get REALLY rough and terse...... people need to show some compassion.........we were all newbies at one time........ good post
Search really isn't that hard. I've been flashing roms on here since Bionix 4 for 2.1 and I never did so until I read the stickies and did research. It's sad that they're not used as much as they should be and it's even sadder that in this day and age, searching key phrases for specific information is still comparable to college level calculus for many internet users.
Sent from my Bionix-V powered Samsung Vibrant that I customized by actually using search intelligently and never cluttering threads. Imagine that!
i haven't been around here for so long but i already know how devs and the experienced get so easily pissed at noob questions. i refrain myself from asking questions AT LEAST in dev threads unless it's absolutely necessary and my googling and searching forums wouldn't give me any clues.
i think devs must have been pretty passionate and must have offered to help, but with growing number of noobs-not all noobs- throwing dumb questions, making threads run hundreds of pages, i understand being passionate no longer is possible
Is there a newbie or beginner section? I think I looked at the xda forum a year ago and it just overwhelmed me at one point where I just didn't care about rooting. Then I met the samsung vibrant and it frustrated me to no end where I had to start reading up a little bit.
NICE!!
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/13/mot...r-bootloader-policy-and-image-in-the-process/
WOW! i can't believe no one else has noticed this and brought it to our attention yet!
oh wait.
cegna09 said:
WOW! i can't believe no one else has noticed this and brought it to our attention yet!
oh wait.
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yup
its old news if you look at the source article from the original OP article
OP - How about doing research next time before starting a new useless thread? This has already been posted here, in a different thread, and is yesterdays news... 'Search' goes a long way.... oh wait, you must be one of the ones who dont read forum rules huh? Makes sense now..
people are always so quick to ***** at others for making a new thread, why don't you just not go in it if you already heard the news..
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people are always so quick to ***** at others for making a new thread, why don't you just not go in it if you already heard the news..
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Because there is no fun in that.
legion21 said:
people are always so quick to ***** at others for making a new thread, why don't you just not go in it if you already heard the news..
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Have to go in it to know what the content is. Look at the title.............Maybe someone had found something we already hadn't heard.............or not! LOL
Please mods, remove this useless thread... :S
People ***** because the forum rules CLEARLY state to USE SEARCH before posting.... OP obviously DID NOT. Dont preach unless you know what it is your preaching about.
inb4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Yeah we gotta leave room for all the important threads... not
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tjjensen23 said:
inb4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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This video ha everytime i watch it i laugh
jgc121 said:
OP - How about doing research next time before starting a new useless thread? This has already been posted here, in a different thread, and is yesterdays news... 'Search' goes a long way.... oh wait, you must be one of the ones who dont read forum rules huh? Makes sense now..
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Wow. I know reposts are annoying to a lot of people, but I tend to not be so uptight because one or two reposts every few days on an important subject which sometimes cite different source material doesn't seem so bad. And besides, it may actually be the first time some other guy is seeing it.
But why do I have to go through pages of comments which are all belittling the OP? You sir, did not need to post, as the guy right above you had already mentioned this is old news - why do we need this done more than once? If you don't like reposts, move on, there's no reason we should have pages of useless hypocritical comments in a thread which someone else might find to be useful if not for all the trash.
Also, have you ever tried to search for a URL to see if it's already been posted?
Try it for yourself:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/13/mot...r-bootloader-policy-and-image-in-the-process/
It doesn't work that well.
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Also, have you ever tried to search for a URL to see if it's already been posted?
Try it for yourself:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/13/mot...r-bootloader-policy-and-image-in-the-process/
It doesn't work that well.
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why would you search for that link instead of a thread on that topic? there is a handy 'search this forum' button. just type in "unlock bootloader" and see how much pops up. You'll even find the main thread with the petition that lead to this, and the same news is in that thread.
If no threads have a link to this same news article, it is not a repost. People enjoy different perspectives on the same topics.
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If no threads have a link to this same news article, it is not a repost. People enjoy different perspectives on the same topics.
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it's the same damn information. find the thread where people are already talking about it, and provide them with the new link. all the links say the same thing though. absolutely no need for a new thread for each link.
Wow at forum mentality. I understand people like organization, but some people are a little over the top.
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Wow at forum mentality. I understand people like organization, but some people are a little over the top.
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I guess everyone is just a little groggy and annoyed that we keep hearing about an unlocked boot loader or news of a boot loader and boot loaders with HTC and all those great news for phones other than the ATRIX.
Our phone is suppose to be a flagship, but it feels like we're playing second fiddle to other phones because of the limitations of the boot loader.
Let's just keep our cool and be patient. If all else fails... We will start a mass riot.... on the internet of course =] DDOS AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF.
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People ***** because the forum rules CLEARLY state to USE SEARCH before posting.... OP obviously DID NOT. Dont preach unless you know what it is your preaching about.
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Everyone is brave with words on here huh? You're a big man because you can shoot someone down with words huh? I bet if you said what you said to the guy who started this thread in person, he would take you down a notch. Don't try to be Billy Bada$$ on here with your words. Be a man and speak your opinion in a polite manner. I would have never thought to talk to someone like that because they started a simple little repeat thread.
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Everyone is brave with words on here huh? You're a big man because you can shoot someone down with words huh? I bet if you said what you said to the guy who started this thread in person, he would take you down a notch. Don't try to be Billy Bada$$ on here with your words. Be a man and speak your opinion in a polite manner. I would have never thought to talk to someone like that because they started a simple little repeat thread.
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Hehe, this kind of makes me laugh. Why? Here, lemme 'splain:
This is the Interenet. It has Forums. In every single one of those forums, people post the same things, over and over. Repeatedly. In ever single one of those forums, there are forum rules. In every single one of those forums, those rules get ignored. In every single one of those forums, someone posts about how there are rules and that idiot n00bs should use the search function.
What's the point of all this? That it doesn't matter. To borrow a quote, "This has all happened before, and it will happen again." The ass pointing out to the n00b to use the search function doesn't need you to tell him he's being an ass any more than I need to tell you that it's pointless. And even if THAT n00b starts to use the search function, some OTHER n00b will be along shortly posting the same thing. This is how the internet works. And until ALL anonymity goes away, that's just how it's going to be. Seriously, don't get worked up over it. Just realize to yourself that there's another repeat post that's going to be criticized and move along to the next post. Or answer the n00bs question (as I find treating the n00bs question as if it's the first one ever REALLY annoys those that get worked up over them )