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3G and H signal not as good since updating to VillainROM 3.4!

Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
But i can not seem to keep a H Signal for very long before it keeps going back to 3G.
and it has only started happening since installing VillainROM 3.4!.
When i am on the net it works fine, but when i am not active for about 10seconds is drops connection..
and this is a real problem when i am using Soccer Centre and i have to come out the program and back in for it to active H again..
Anyone else having this issue?
Thanks
Marc

didnt need a thread to itself

ermacwins said:
didnt need a thread to itself
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I felt it did - cause i did not want it getting lost in the
7,417 Post and 792,965 Views of the other topic...

Works perfect for me
Flash the latest radio (my sig) if you have not already got it.
If you do then reflash it

@Redpizzi
Please do NOT start new threads with Villain issues. PLEASE use the Villain thread.
Regarding to your issue, flash the latest radio again like Lenny said.

Thanks Lennyuk, will try that...i have the latest rom, but will re-install it..
Like i am sat here and the icon is 3G - but when i load up internet or market then it changes to H, then if i leave it for a few mins it goes back to 3g....i thought i might have been a battery saving thing in the rom or in the 2.1 FW....
Thanks again
And Phanes / ermacwins. i got that answer i needed, and now other people dont have to look though 700 pages of posts to find the same answer if they have that problem.
So sorry if you dont like it but it is how i have done thing in forums for 20 years...

@Redpizzi
... didn´t know that there where forums and INTERNET in 1990 ...
I don´t think I want to give you a hand in the future ...

Redpizzi said:
And Phanes / ermacwins. i got that answer i needed, and now other people dont have to look though 700 pages of posts to find the same answer if they have that problem.
So sorry if you dont like it but it is how i have done thing in forums for 20 years...
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awesome, continue like that and ppl who are actually interested in DEVELOPING will have to go through 700 threads of noob mistakes before they find something interesting. and no, there was no internet 20 years ago. if you had at least 20 days of forum experience you might have learned to post in the correct section...

Forums - are not just related to the internet -forums have been around for a long time people.
Phanes you never gave me a hand anyway...
I asked for some help and i got the help i asked for. Fine i should not have but VillainROM in the Thread - but when i posted in the Villain thread before about another problem it never got answered.
Job is a good one, just dont need people ermacwins/Phanes and the **** kendong2 trying to noob bash.
I dont give a **** how many posts you have done, i have been here since 2005 and help when i can no matter where the ****ing post is....
The main man Lennyuk gave me am answer and i will try that. if that does not work, then please just direct me to the right place, DONT start giving me **** for it.
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****ing hate people trying to noob bash.....

so if you are that know-it-all guy that has done it all forever and before everybody else, why is it asked too much that you stick to the rules like everybody else does?
and for the record: you are the only one flaming around here, i for example never called anyone a **** around here.

Yer i was flaming cause i asked for help and instead i got noob bashes trying it on..so dont piss me off again, and drop it.....no more slagging off the topic, will ask for help elsewhere
Now the problem has not been solved, so i am gonna try another rom to see if that has the same problem. i have even parked right next to my local Antenna.....
Thanks again Lennyuk

Well not familiar with forum rules but agree with OP that it's nightmare to browse through all the posts when there are 50+ (most of them repetitive and useless) replies on single day.
and just realised that i added one now.........

starfarer said:
Well not familiar with forum rules but agree with OP that it's nightmare to browse through all the posts when there are 50+ (most of them repetitive and useless) replies on single day.
and just realised that i added one now.........
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well this topic is not repetitive not useless and if it was against the forum rules then i cannot see why..
260 views mean people are interested untill they find out omeone needs help.

tell me about it. Asked something earlier and the same two were right on queue, no help at all, complaining like I just shat in their cereal. There really is no need for that.
Obviously I'm new to these forums, but been around many other forums for years and years, when I read their response I was literally like oh here we go, I guess this is just another one of those elitist forums, full of mod wannabes and keyboard warriors. Thats until helpful people like lenny weighs in and restores some faith.
Let us know how you get on with reflashing the radio Redpizzi, I have this same "problem", I thought thats just how it was since I got the hero not long ago, and the internet was like that before I flashed it with a custom rom as well. Its minor though but would be good to get the best out of the phone.

your thread was moved by a mod and you still don't get it? so you are also resistant to learning?
well, i guess we have to blame your parents, for not raising you right. other kids have learned not to talk in between while adults are talking.

you guys are so annoying, ive never seen such ganging on someone for simply a post, so cut the crap and either tell him wat he wants or not.
I've also had this issue and the latest radio hasnt resolved it either, I'm also having trouble with slow internet and reception cutting and coming back, ive tried all the 2.1 eris and legend roms and found that behero is the one with the least issues but still isnt all that perfect, i still get cut off sometimes and find no reception, so for the wifi aswell.

kendong2 fair enough if its was in the wrong forum, as im new here I thought something customrom related goes here in the development forum.
the mod moved the thread I thought nothing of it, you on the other hand must've thought it was a personal victory for you and thought it was the equivalent of a public spanking lol. Did you somehow think you were secretly pulling the strings by pointing it out?
Is your whole ambition to be a mod on here or something? just to point out where people are posting wrong and try to insult them lol. Just from a few posts I find it hard to believe that you have any friends. I wont be surprised if you're actually some 13 year old who gets bullied everyday at school and trying to get your power trip on the internet. Next thing you know you'll be pointing out spelling mistakes and missed capital letters. Get a life you loser cos this forum is obviously all you have. You really give this forum a bad name. you're on a phone forum but I doubt anyone ever rings your phone.

Just knock it off. It´s really enough now.
Why don´t you accept that WE how we care about those issues want to see the issues posted IN THE THREAD not somewhere else.
It is done for you guys, for those who have issues and not being able to help themselves.
And stop this passive/aggressive game.

fair enough phanes. he started getting personal first so could only return like for like.
but you do have to concede for new users some things on here are not just there in plain sight to be found out. Not just a simple search away. There's a 700 page thread and everything else is in technobabble. Its simple and intuitive for you cos you already know it. Its like telling someone to learn how to do keyhole surgery by just telling them to read a book. Not even a specific book, just "a" book.

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fair enough phanes. he started getting personal first so could only return like for like.
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yeah right, because it was me calling ppl a "****" around here. read my posts, i point people out where they are wrong, and usually offer help in the very same post. you are complaining that you can not learn if nobody explains it to you, yet when i explain what you did wrong you still complain. seriously dude, it is not that bad to make mistakes, and i never blamed anyone for that (prove me wrong otherwise!), but it is bad if you don't accept that you made a mistake and learn from it. the fact that about ten threads got moved from the dev section to general or q&a in the last week alone is proof enough that everybody is just posting whatever he wants whereever he wants. i don't think i am secretly pulling any strings (actually i don't even know what you are trying to say...?), and it was for sure not a personal victory, all i did was one neutral post about the thread being in the wrong forum. if you can not deal with critics about your behaviour then you shouldn't come to the internet. go to your gazillions of friends, if they support that behaviour. this is a community, and if it is asked too much from you to stick to the most simple, general rules (that apply to ALL forums on the internet btw!) you won't find people to be that helpful. and obviously you need help.
you have contributed absolutely zero so far, except spamming the dev forum and flaming around here, you think you make friends like that? if it wasn't for lenny and his endless patience you'd still be crying like a little baby whose toy is broken...

Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!

Can you give us example what you're saying?

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Can you give us example what you're saying?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714574

justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....

ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.

Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire

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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?

Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...

Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.

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Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL

HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has

I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
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I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
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But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
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Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
wolfee said:
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
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The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
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Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
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It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
wolfee said:
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
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Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc

Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place

MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.

I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.

hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

Rant

I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.

churchwin88 said:
I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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That is a pretty good idea you just came up with there!

Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.

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Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Then where do those serious posters post?

yeah there are waaay to many people who basically just want someone else to do everything for them, and dont want to actually search for themselves. frankly i think its US the people who know how to use a forum properly, that should NOT be paying attention to these people. i wish people would just not respond to all those lazy people who just want to be spoonfed on what to do. if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL

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if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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Thanks, now I am going to have nightmares.

yeah i mean i pretty much almost never go into the Q&A section, and general section because 90% of whats in there is a bunch "i dont know how to do this please tell me how" probably because those people never finished their freshman year in college and actually learned how to do proper research... but oh well, i mean the only forum i check is the development one, it seems to slowly be getting better and better. very slowly.

I agree with the OP, however, this is simply a side effect from the forum hitting the mainstream. At almost 3 million users, it is simply impossible not to get these kinds of people. The development forum is a lot better though since it's better curated.
I've learned to simply ignore it and move along. Trust me, it could be way worse.

how do i root my phone... I'm kidding of course
sent from satan fone!

I think I know how to clean up the redundant threads a little bit.
The forum administrator could change the input field for naming your new thread into a hidden Google search box!
So then people type their new topic into the box and WHAMMO suddenly there is >3,000,000 solutions right in their face before they even begin to start writing the body of the post.
The thread starter must then click on a minimum number of links from the googled solutions before they are allowed to actually post their question with a new thread!
Problem solved....

Unfortunately, the search in the XDA app sux.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

the problem is it's frustrating for everyone.
and also not to point fingers but there's only one way to really curb the problem.
More information available more easily.
Better more acccurate more updated Wiki or compilation of ALL the basics.
Also, for everyone that starts a thread you need to put in more details, Sometimes I'm amazed at how a developer can master putting everything for the phone together and then post a thread saying..... Here's my rom WEE clicky here, done.
DETAILS install, how to when where what, update and keep things updated.
most of the stuff I can navigate threw myself and thats fine but sometimes theres like 300 pages and your getting no where, if your the thread starter and you add something important to the conversation mid thread, edit your first post.
As far as people posting stupid VERY simple repetitive questions, just try and search it first please, ugh.

I agree with the xda app search sucks.. i get low data speed here in wisconsin usually 30kb/s or under so dont use the internet for the site.. the search should be able to sure certain forums that would help alot of people out who do actually use the search but hard finding it with the app search..
sent from my Evo

Also alot of people dont word the topic right or even have what they are asking about.. like today someone put... help!. Had good info on radios but someone thats looking up the same thing wont run into it.
sent from my Evo

Now that I think about it, the hardest thing to do is run through a 200 page topic and actually pull useful information out of it. An example:
The first 500 replys are:
First!
downloading...
Will DL when I get home...
Downloading now
ect, ect for 500 pages
Then you finally get to the meat of the topic when you no longer see "downloading now" and you start to see "my 4gee's no workie" for another 150 pages only to realize that the answer to all of those questions was in the OP that nobody read!
This cycle goes on and on and it's nearly impossible to gather intelligence from chaos like that.

this is probably the 10th topic about this....just sayin

In your third paragraph, you repeated yourself by saying "because" twice. Practice what you preach. If you think you can do it better, go start your own forum.
I'm just bs'ing/being a smartass. You are okay to have your opinion. I can understand when a person gets in a mood and needs to rant to vent some frustrations. You may also have some valid points.
My parting thought:
It can be said in many different ways. Instead of complaining about something you don't agree with or like, might I make a suggestion to volunteer yourself to make things better. Trying to focus on solutions instead of problems.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no saint. Some people really irritate the crap out of me too, plus, I know I'm not mr personality either.
The mods have their hands full (I'm sure that's an understatement). If you can do your good deed for the day and help out a newb, then you are giving back.
:end of rant:

This forum desperately needs more moderation. I messaged toast over a month ago with this suggestion and offered my help as I have moderated other forums. He never even bothered to respond.
For a tech forum,moderation is the difference between good and lousy. Self policing can only go so far.
As for the search, there is no problem with it. VB is the most popular forum software for a reason. It works very well. Pro tip: 99% of your searches should be title only.

Mad06STi said:
I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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The big problem is when people get their EVO, they realize their battery lasts 20 minutes out of the box. They then get on google and try to find out how to increase their battery life. They find an article on some douchebag blog talking about rooting their phone. These people then google rooting their phone and all signs point to XDA. Sometimes they know a guy or have a friend of a friend who told them to "root" their phone, skipping the first step.
This is exactly why there are 100 repeated questions/threads. Everyone is directed to this website from various other websites. So you will get people who want instant answers and don't want to wade through tons of replies/text.

Not your typical rant.......

First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been a longtime member with a very low post count. Unless you're the first or second person to download a rom and notice a secific bug to report, the community is large enough that very rarely do you need to post as someone else already has.
Not to mention its a self perpetuating problem. If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.

Typical rant.
You opened a new thread, clogging the front page just like those you hate.
The words you speak will never truly reach those who don't read before posting... by definition.
Waste of time and space, get over yourself.

Why does this bother people so much. Ignore the threads/questions if you have an issue with them. Some people aren't aware of the resources. Being a prick about it doesn't help. These same rants have been done over and over and over...
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What a SHOCKER! Another typical "non-typical" rant.
But, you know, you're right. No one should be allowed to post until they've read all 3000+ posts in this forum. No one is allowed to ask other's opinions on the best ROM. No one is allowed to think differently than you.
Wanna know why the HTC side is so good? It's not because HTC releases source code (You should have seen the community in the early days before anyone released code). It's because the users are helpful. They contribute. They don't rant.
You, and users like you, are the reason the community is falling apart. Get in there and answer some questions. Contribute. Post to the useful threads so they stay close to the top. Add to the Wiki. Don't sit around and complain. These forums are for everyone, not just you.
You have only 12 posts, and the only thing you can contribute is "restart your phone" or "use a different USB cable?"
Here's my plea for the mods to lock this thread before we spiral out of control. What do you mean, it's too late?

compuw22c said:
If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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Or, you could post a like to the wiki, pointing the noobs in the right direction. Answer the question and the thread falls to the bottom, and useful stuff with high post counts rise to the top.
Here's an example:
"Hey man, totally get where you're coming from. Rooting seems tricky, but it's not. Here's the guides in the wiki. It's got most of your questions answered. The search is useful if you can't find it there. Glad to have you on XDA.
But I guess it's much more useful to post inane responses on useless threads. Crap floats.

ms79723 said:
A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
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I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.

flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
I'm also one of those old members with years of lurking experience, because i know to search. But, at the same time, i don't tell people to do it. He'll i barley give advice... Mainly because i just come here, give rep, and get what info I need and then leave.
Let the forums grow i say... the more questions are asked, the easier they can be answered later, because of the keywords aspect. If someone doesnt know the keywords, they will ask a question with wrong ones, and then get corrected. and later down the line, someone searching with the same wrong keywords can find the answer... At least i hope it works out like that, i would like to think it does to some degree...
Anyways... my 2c

The only problem I have with searching is this: my laptop crashed a while back so I haver to search with the phone and xda app. The xda app search sucks. It brings up irrelevant posts. So since i can't use the search feature, unless I go to the site through the web browser, I just read the wiki and search post by post lol. I am for the side that says, if you don't like the post don't read it. Be helpful, not insane. Some attitudes on here are equivalent to some one coming up to you on a street, new to the town, and asking where mcdonalds is, and some of your responses would be: Look up in the sky for the big f?%#ing golden arches before I shot you in the head with my glock. That is a little over board. I say search, but if the didn't don't get mad.
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JettMartinez said:
I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
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Man, more people are familiar with school than the internet...and in school you usually ask the teachers questions before you whip out your book to find the answer. Most people also try to act like themselves online like they do in real life...and since in a real life situation there more likely to ask a question than search for the answer...so first instinct would probably be asking that question, that is, if you arent used to forums (specifically this one).

Very serious business.

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flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
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This.
When you see question, give an answer. At least point them to the wiki so they can learn the things to search for.
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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RushAOZ said:
I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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+1....100%
This is just about the most typical rant you can find on this board.. 1000 miles away from non typical

Elite11b said:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Can a brother get a carriage return?
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Failing to search occurs in ANY forum out there. The difference with the Epic scene is we have more self-proclaimed moderators than any board I am a member of. There are simply too many people trigger happy to call out a “noob” who may or may not know what it is that they are looking for.
It’s a shame that we are so quick to assume that someone is lazy.
I am here several times a day. More often than not, you will see folks spending more time correcting other’s forum posting etiquette than actually helping or contributing. In the other forums I frequent (mostly cars), the members actually help one another and asking questions, regardless of them previously posted, is no problem at all.
Go figure, the forums where mistakes cost A LOT more money in damages is stress-free compared to one that can almost always be fixed with a good old odin.

I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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Elite11b said:
I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I think you were saying what you felt and there is no harm in that. You were not out of line in the way you said it. It was simply something you felt like expressing.
I don’t believe your last sentence though. It contradicts your first sentence.

No it's true I just regret not being more specific about what I was saying. Anyway life is full of contradictions
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First day ATT SG4 Questions

I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it

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I previously had an htc vivid that I s-off'd and rom'd alot and before that I had a samsung infuse and I remember roming on the infuse to be pretty easy. So where do i start? I want to install cm10.1 nightly but I just got my phone today and I have no idea how to root or get cwm on it
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Start with these three threads, but don't limit yourself to them. You will find many useful links within those threads to help you as well. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always

TheAxman said:
WTH, scott. you fast.
Good info as always
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I bet 90% (or more) of all "Help me!" type posts can be resolved with those few threads. Maybe another 5% need to be directed to another thread or two, and only the last 5% or so actually require more information than what has already been posted. If people would follow the XDA rules, search, and read what is easily available, most of them wouldn't have problems in the first place...much less need to make posts about them time after time. This forum has evolved nicely and people have taken their time to put together guides, solve problems, and create helpful posts. It is a slap in the face of those people when others don't take the time to read the information they made available. I see it all of the time, people saying, "but this is Q&A, I should be allowed to ask questions yadayadayada...). For some reason, to them, Q&A means I don't need to search, read, or learn, I can just ask a question that has been asked 20 times already (usually still on the first page) and people must flock to me with easy answers on silver platters! Of course, that is assuming they even put the question in the Q&A forum to start with. For some reason, they think they are above the rules or they are so special the rules don't apply to them. Q&A (according to XDA) exists to help AFTER someone has already searched and read on their own...not as a substitute for doing so. And saying, "but I searched", when it is obvious that no searching or very little searching was done only makes them a liar as well.
At most, people should only need to be directed to this information (existing threads). If they choose to ignore this help or if they think they are too important to take the time needed to read and learn...too bad. Fortunately, most accept the help and take advantage of the information, others, well I guess they just need to sit around, all butt-hurt, with their bricks. :laugh:
And to those that get butt-hurt...No, I'm not a Mod and I'm not affiliated with XDA, I just follow the rules that I agreed to when I signed up...just like everyone else is supposed to. DO you?
...and this isn't necessarily directed at the OP, I just happened to say it in this thread.

This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.

alphadog00 said:
This is not unique to XDA. People on all forums ask before trying to find the answer. It doesn't matter how much good info is posted, most users want to be spoon fed instead of trying to learn on their own.
Even with power of Google, we see people post " how do I ....." On forums first, when the same query on google will give instant answers.
I can't explain it, but we are all witness to it.
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Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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+1 to all
A lot of members like Axman have invested many hours in writing great "noob" threads. Very well done and easy to understand. What I never get is why folks invest a lot of money in this phone, and others, and don't want to spend time educating themselves on how to root it and flash roms.

Thermalwolf said:
Does not excuse it in the slightest. Anyways I'm happy for the OP choosing the S4 but this is getting quite repetitive and needs to stop :/
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Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.

TheAxman said:
Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in awhile.
Agreed though, getting old. Same issue, different name.
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Life, and AOKP has been keeping me quite content but yea long time no see, glad to see familiar faces
Decided I should drop by more to help with these QA threads hahaha
To the OP now, don't think we hate you or anything, it's just you put like NO EFFORT into researching. The QA forum is here to help issues beyond just getting started.
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I started those guides thinking that everyone would be talking about flashing roms, whats cool, whats not, and so on, made them so anyone new could even understand, I must have forgotten that people just want to get a phone and start rooting and such, without reading because his buddy said it was cool to root and flash roms, even told him, here go to this site and get roms, and flash them. Then the process starts, a continuous posts of I can't , and it won't questions.
What gets me, you know they are not searching, because the post right above theirs has their problem right in the thread title. Saw one of those yesterday somewhere.
Ka dumb a$s, duh!
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Btw .. OP, I am going to apologize for semi hi-jacking your thread. It was wrong. Sorry sir. Seriously.

I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--

rugmankc said:
I think by now the OP has read your Guide, plus others and is now running and enjoying a custom rom--
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This! Also I got very intimidated by all the people screaming at me. I did a bunch of research before I asked the question and was still confused hence the question I'm not an xda idiot but the s4 was already very big in modding when I joined whereas the infuse and vivid had just started to get cwm and root when I got them so I grew with the romers I apologize for looking so nooby since reading the first post I now have a auto Loki cwm and root access and am running the Google edition ROM thank you all for the suggestions and links
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Glad you got it--
Don't feel bad sometimes we need to vent--nothing personal
I came here in early May from the One S and close to 3.5 years of flashing HTC devices with the advantage of unlocked bootloaders thru fastboot. But, still felt like a noob here--still do--
Odin/Kies/Loki were all new. Esp loki. I have spent hundreds of hours reading probably a couple thousand posts. Still learning. It does take a lot of effort to figure this out for some of us--like me.
But, a good investment as one needs to not only know how but why--to not lose a pricey phone--
Welcome to the S4--Unbelievable Phone--:good: