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Stop being so freaking mean

Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks

P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.

+1!!
Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!

it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.

You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4

funeralthirst said:
it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.
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The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.

Know this. It isnt just these threads for this forum.
Its Apart of life and people get very fustrated with it. Case in point I had a guy call me at work and ask me how to work his computer.
Its people like this customer that make my head hurt.
He then proceed's to ask me how to get internet.
I say sir you must call att or timewarner or who ever can provide internet to you.
He then says " cant I just sign up over the internet with a credit card"
I think to myself "how in the hell are you going to sign up for internet over the internet when you do not have internet.
point of this is 1) its funny! 2) I get how you feel I use to get very fustrated with this sight. Some people just do not read or comprehend what we do. Other times I am just as dumb as they are.

xriderx66 said:
Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks
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htc2364 said:
You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4
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Both points, have hit the marks!
I started to search for the newbie's and just post them as answers to people that are new to this.
But if i don't have the time of my life (I have a family too, and i'm damn old for this, lol), then I would just answer but with a courteous and politely tell them to search next time.

All~G1 said:
The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.
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LOL, yeah, G1 days was...umm... let's just say, it was 'busy'. Shoot, the Symbian forums in the olden days was the same. People pester me with updates and crap, and making this change, and do that.... Oy.
I agree with All~G1, sometimes there are 'certain users' who can't take a joke, or too serious, or just plain jerk. So those I do report to Mods and it does work wonders...

The problem is that people expect everyone else to take time to help them but don't take anytime to help themselves (ie, searching for a solution before asking for one)

Ill admit I'm a noob to the android bit but to the tech or fourm world but iv learned in my years the google and forum search are your best friends when learnong something new that's how I found this site. However I have noticed that some threads on here may have 1000+ replys and the forum search here as with most boards don't always put you close to the answer you need so and I can see how other noobs who really arnt familuar with forums like this could find it overwhelimg trying to go through that amount of posts
Sent from my hero running froyo with the XDA APP

Like any forum, search is your friend. You have a problem? First search and check stickies before asking. Them are the laws of the internets plain and simple. I'm not the most educated when it comes to android, but I try and answer questions the best I can to help out. When I see pages 1,2 and three of general chat all asking for help about kies update to 2.2, I get pissed too.
I think vibrant members are on the nicer side of the spectrum.

I understand using search isn't that hard, but new users may not be familiar to vbulletin forums and search feautures, but yes most of them don't even bother.

i went from stock 2.1 to rooted 2.2 flagship v4 just by using the search button. getting pissed might be going a bit far, but they do deserve a good jerkin!

I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from

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I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from
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Lol automagically... i'm writing that one down
Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!

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P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.
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A little bit but you are right, I don't know why but the Vibrant crowd get REALLY rough and terse...... people need to show some compassion.........we were all newbies at one time........ good post

Search really isn't that hard. I've been flashing roms on here since Bionix 4 for 2.1 and I never did so until I read the stickies and did research. It's sad that they're not used as much as they should be and it's even sadder that in this day and age, searching key phrases for specific information is still comparable to college level calculus for many internet users.
Sent from my Bionix-V powered Samsung Vibrant that I customized by actually using search intelligently and never cluttering threads. Imagine that!

i haven't been around here for so long but i already know how devs and the experienced get so easily pissed at noob questions. i refrain myself from asking questions AT LEAST in dev threads unless it's absolutely necessary and my googling and searching forums wouldn't give me any clues.
i think devs must have been pretty passionate and must have offered to help, but with growing number of noobs-not all noobs- throwing dumb questions, making threads run hundreds of pages, i understand being passionate no longer is possible

Is there a newbie or beginner section? I think I looked at the xda forum a year ago and it just overwhelmed me at one point where I just didn't care about rooting. Then I met the samsung vibrant and it frustrated me to no end where I had to start reading up a little bit.

DL30 froyo rom Samsung Widgets disappearing?

Anybody have any ideas. I am aware that devs are not supporting the original leak. But im just looking for info more than anything. Every once in a while i will hit the home button and as soon as i return to the home screen the calendar clock, and the feeds and updates widget are no longer there.

I think I know what you're talking about. If you wait a little bit they come back... think it's the launcher resetting. Did it to me a lot too, switched to super clean, haven't seen it since *knock on wood*.

This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.

I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)

If you read that link you would see that your question should have gone in the leak thread. Or your thread should have been started in general. Why must people try to justify their mistakes?
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.

Here are few key excerpts so you don't have to read the whole thing:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
So remember… before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can’t answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?

There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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I lol'd. Agreed.
And same here op. It bothered me for awhile cause I really like the program monitor widget and that blue digital clock. I ended up just getting another widget from the market but touchwiz seems to make it all shaky every time I went to another screen. Wish there was a fix, but I just deal with it.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
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If that's the case then consider it their sacrifice so YOU can have a nicely running phone. So stfu and listen to them when they tell you what you should have been doing in the first place.

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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First of all, I'm married, so of course I don't. And second, I don't see how sexual frustration = desire for the development board to remain uncluttered with stuff that belongs elsewhere. Can you explain that?

Lol its all in fun.
I switched to the official leak useing the official kernel and widgets are not disappearing now....

bL33d said:
There are way to many people on this forum that obviously don't get any ass.
But to op yes mine disappear aswell like sammy facebook widget is allways disappearing.
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It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.

Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?

stereoblind said:
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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^I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I dont think they were trying to attack him personally, but...
it's a matter of frustration that established users have here with people completely disregarding the rules (and this is coming from someone with low post count). To my understanding the development fora are supposed to be FOR devs, not end-users. I think our role as end-users (in this development forum) is to provide support in terms of bug reporting (or whatever the dev might need) and such WITHIN specific dev threads. By not adhering to the rules, new users are unintentionally changing the dynamic of how these fora are supposed to operate.
So they're not trying to be d*cks, they're just trying to maintain the integrity of this forum.

stereoblind said:
Seriously? He just wanted to know why his Widgets are disappearing. If you seriously expect anyone new to this forum to read through a big list of rules, it sucks all the fun out of being an android user. He posted in the wrong section, we get it. It's now dead and done. Let's try and help with an explanation as opposed to making him feel stupid for posting in the wrong section. If it's as simple as telling them once to not post such things in here again and move the thread, why doesn't that just happen?
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Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
jselden said:
This belongs in general. Read Me
But it happens to me to with beautiful widgets. Time and again. i just deal with it since this is not the final build.
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Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
wroder84 said:
I understand what your guys are saying but thats not my problem. im fully aware that if you use adobe flash, or apps that use a lot of resources that if you hit home sometimes it will refresh the home screen (happened all the time on the Original droid). My problem is the widgets disappear all together meaning they dont reappear. Ohh and this isnt a general question this question refers to an unofficial rom aka ROM DEVELOPMENT!!!
Also its not all the widgets that disappear it just the Samsung widgets (i only use calendar clock, and feeds and updates widget)
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Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.

How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.

BrwnSuperman said:
It must be our proper grammar, correct spelling, and common sense.
Stop being such a troll.
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OMG u got me man u got me good im just gonna go now since i've been owned.
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How about a solution to this problem,, in the sub forum section page change the expalnation of the 4 sub forums to capatilazation and place it before the actual sub forum link and change the sub forum link to un capitalized font . I think this might help force people to rerad first before clicking the link.
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Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.

bL33d said:
Better idea just password protect this section so only devs can post here. FYI there will be about 4 posts a month in this forum then lol.
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No one has a problem with everyone being able to post in the development forum, Just people cluttering it up with things that belong in the general forum. I will never understand how people can argue so hard for anarchy. If developers and veterans are complaining about the state of the site, then maybe you ought to get your act together or we'll just leave. Then who's going to help you with your issues? Other noobs who have won the right to post wherever the hell they want by driving off the people who actually make roms and mods and fixes. If the op wanted a topic for his specific issue, he should have posted it in general. If he wanted to post in development he should have done so in the thread for the rom he is using, not created a new thread. It's clearly stated in the rules. Why is that such a problem to some people?

sonofskywalker3 said:
Let me put it into context for you:
Here is the third post of the thread. It contains a simple reminder to please post in the correct section, and an answer to the original question. Exactly as you suggest, telling him once.
Here is the very next post. It shows the original poster, who obviously didn't read the provided readme in the above post, attempting to justify his posting in the wrong section. This is where it became an issue, when the OP, instead of admitting his mistake and avoiding misplaced topics in the future (which would be perfectly forgivable, and not a problem) defends his uninformed postition with his own flawed logic.
Easy solution: Read the rules, and when you're corrected by someone with 10 times your post count, who provides verification, just admit you were wrong.
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I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.

beray5 said:
I'm sorry dev, but the number of people who are dumb and being asses gonna to out strip you by more than 100 to 1. You should learn to tolerate that as being the norm, to have common sense is pretty much a crime to humanity and the norm.
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He's a troll, just ignore him. This thread should be locked since the OP has been helped and it's just going downhill.
Thanks for all your work sonofskywalker, I keep alternating between Blackhole and Superclean still trying to figure out which is a better fit.

Moderators???

Where are you guys? I have known XDA to be a place of organization... a place to be used as a top-notch resource... but 3/4 of the threads in this Atrix forum are rediculous! It is non-stop, people posting each and every little issue or question in a brand new, seperate thread! Please help clean up this forum, myself, and a ton of other people are counting on this place as a main source of information for our device!
Thank you very much.
And to the trolling posters out there:
-It doesn't matter which phone you came from! It doesn't need to be a thread!
-If you really don't like the Atrix and are returning it - go for it! Nobody cares what you are going back to. This is a place for people who have, and plan on keeping the device!
-If you dislike an aspect of the device, you don't need to make a thread about it!
-If you have a very general question, use the search function first please!
-If the search function fails, try google!
-If you don't own the device, please don't post your trolls here!
-If you are thinking about getting the device, read the Engadget review, it is helpful.
-If you are posting a comment that seems to be very general, chances are - it is! Try attaching that comment to a thread already in existence (ie, if you want to talk about a particular case under the accessory forum, post it to case thread, instead of asking a specific question on a specific case in a new thread.
-Please read the OP! Chances are, your question's answer is in that post...

Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP

joewoo said:
Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP
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Seriously!
And to break my own rules, I am coming from the Inspire forums... which are completely moderated, organized (and de-*****ed). It's enough already - this is a place for people who plan on having the Atrix for some time and want to discuss and make their experiences better.

So much *****ing and fanatism! I agree. Some moderation is needed urgently!
By the way, Atrix is a great phone as well as many other Android devices. 1,000 posts of comparison are not enpugh for people to understand what the phone is and how it works?

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Lots of whiny little *****es lately... +1 OP
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Completely agree with this. Another +1

well said OP!
I'm sat here using a wildfire, waiting (not so) patiently for the Atrix to be launched in the UK. I assumed that the wildfire board was so bad because it was a cheap phone, but no, this board is going the same way!
hopefully it will get sorted out before I get mine, and the fan boy agitators move back to their own turf

The quality of Modmanship.............

Is none of my concern.
Delete thread please?

Its a very very fine line between being a good administrator and being a clown.
I own a forum with over 2500 members (very small, but thats the way we like it), and am an admin on three others.
I give my mods pretty much free reign to do as they wish, BUT I often find myself going back and cleaning up messes.
It is very important for the continuity of information that threads be kept in the appropriate section. It would have taken less time to simply move this thread than to answer the way that he did.
But as I said, its a rough life as a mod/admin. No pay, no appreciation in most cases, and it does nothing but anger the family...
Take it easy on the guy, he really is just trying to do what he thinks is best for the community. Unless his post was edited, I see absolutely nothing offensive about it. In fact, this thread is more offensive than the one you are referencing.

Ja, you are right about some things. But it should have just been moved.Different viewpoints. I also mod a forum, sorry that this thread offended you, but i got offended seeing a relative newcomer get the cold shoulder when asking nicely.
That is more offensive.
Going to delete the content of original post. My time of the month.
Rant over
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Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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Okay.... looks like I didn't unlock the thread and move it. I have now.
Op, feel free to redo your first post if you want. It was a valid point.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......

conantroutman said:
Right ok.....
First of all, yes I acted like a ****.
In my defence I'm having to move at least 10 threads a day from general to q&a... despite a sticky and a forum announcement explaining that questions should not be posted here.
When I realised that the thread your talking about was posted by a new member I'm pretty sure I unlocked it and moved it to q&a....
I can't promise I'll pay the same courtesy to members who should know better though.
I have spent the past two weeks moving every [Q] thread that appeared but unfortunately that doesn't help to get the message across.
Like I said, I guess I was being a **** but then again I'm just trying to keep this place tidy for everyone's benefit and if I have to make that point by locking a few threads here and there then I will.
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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.

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You dont have to explain a thing bud, Its the idiots who cant read that we should be complain about not the mods doing their job.
Alot of people including myself are sick and tired of crap getting posted in wrong places, its really irritating and tbh stickies or announcements shouldn't even need to be made, its pretty much common sense and anybody with half of a brain can see which section which kind of topic goes in and which it doesn't. Obviously though we get some people who either cant grasp this concept who are just too lazy to read forum titles.
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Tbh, I agree with you. Nothing worse when someone just types out a question, about something that is probably answered just two threads below.
conantroutman, sorry matey, I didnt mean to have a go at you personally. Had ****ty day too. I do apologise, sincerely. As for redoing the first post, Nah, it IS none of my concern. I really dont mind if you delete/close this thread.

No problem man, dont sweat it......
Im not gonna delete the thread as some may see it as me "covering my tracks".
I will however close it and leave it with the declaration that;
If anyone, for any reason has an issue with the a decision I make in regards to moderating the forums then please feel free to PM me and let me know.
Your statutory rights will not be affected

[Off Topic]&[Noob Advice] [Try Read It]

"hey guys,
Sorry to be a pita(pain-in-the-a**), I just wanted to make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the search function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your a**"
Big Thanks Goes For Who Support This Idea
Big Big Thanks Goes For "stoney73" for providing The Correct sentences and correcting\changing my whole POST
In Case you wanna Learn Something About your Tab check this link ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133590 )
1st time i see this thread without a QUESTION .. Magical

..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.

conantroutman said:
..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.
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thanks for the support

I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.

Timanator said:
I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.
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so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
thanks

k0sh said:
so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
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Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!

You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!
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You guys are hilarious.....The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

conantroutman said:
You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Don't get me wrong, I know this thread is a good idea, but I genuinely have trouble reading/understanding what k0sh says. Or why someone that thinks he's wasting his time should still appreciate it.
I don't think this will get through to people though. Especially with that title.

Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.

In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"

stoney73 said:
In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"
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Awesome !!!! going to use it

jpanggy said:
Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.
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i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl

k0sh said:
i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl
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So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.

natious said:
So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.
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dude if you look to my signature you'll know what is my native language and also where exactly i'm from

Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!

k0sh said:
dude
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Check the photo - that is no dude! In even that tiny picture I see a gorgeous dudette!

mikhail said:
Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!
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Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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thepittbull said:
Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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+1
Satu Malaysia
probably i'll change it , but with another sticky name .. cuz they don't give a damn about rules , announcements . so i better think of silly name ) ..
Out of topic : they will not know the malaysian ppl until they eat a damn nasi lemak ( fried rice ) ... or come and try and see how the malaysian ppl are kind , easy , normal , they make you love them ..
Satu Malaysia >)