HA - take that Apple - Epic 4G General

Apple ordered to pay damages to Samsung by Dutch court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18529756
hahahaha; excellent

Haha I love the 2nd story in that article. They were fined in Australia for misleading advertisements with the use of "4G". It's about time Apple gets hit back. These patent wars are just ludicrous and probably slowing down product development..

jdelano said:
Apple ordered to pay damages to Samsung by Dutch court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18529756
hahahaha; excellent
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Oh yea. Apple really got it good there. /s
You realize that 3/4 patent claims where thrown out of court and Samsung was ordered to pay apple 800000 euros in court fees and Samsung claim of 2.2% frand fee was laughed out of court.
Samsung didn't win unless you ignore 80% of the facts.
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As nice as it sounds, considering apples a multi billion dollar company, its not much at all
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Grompy said:
Haha I love the 2nd story in that article. They were fined in Australia for misleading advertisements with the use of "4G". It's about time Apple gets hit back. These patent wars are just ludicrous and probably slowing down product development..
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Patents aren't half the enemy of mobile progress that wireless carriers are. Prioritize your rage.

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Why does Sprint continually lose money every quarter?

Just read over on Engadget how Sprint lost $760 million last quarter. Why do you think they continually do so bad? Is it because of poor sales or poor business/financial decisions (debt left over from merger or otherwise)? Their coverage is awesome, their 3G speeds are often better than Verizon's, they have 4G on tap, customer service has never given me any trouble, I can upgrade my phone annually, and the plans offer way more features and are still cheaper than the competition. The list is endless, there's really no other carrier I'd rather be on. Do others not feel the same way? Is their marketing failing?
I feel the same way. Their advertisements always seem good. I feel like they don't advertise as heavily as any of the other carriers here.
Maybe from all the expanding and changes they've done? Don't know though. I haven't had any problems at all. Their customer service always corrects problems, even crediting a lot of charges back.. and coverage is good. A lot happier then I was with at&t
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I'm sure the cost of upgrading to 4G has a lot to do with it. Plus I am ripping them off with my unlimited everything for $65 a month!!
Profit for a business is bad...profit=have to pay taxes!
tgruendler said:
Profit for a business is bad...profit=have to pay taxes!
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Sound your logic is not..
Sprint screwed themselves and are still recovering from that terrible decision to merge with nextel.
It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
UrbanMuppet said:
It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
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ROFL!!!!!!!
UrbanMuppet said:
It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
It wasnt until recently that they had good phones. I remember a few years back, most of their phones were garbage. Everyone jumpped ship and moved to ATT due to the fact that you could pull the sim card, and switch phones as you pleased. All the phones from Asia were flocking over to the US and everyone had some new Nokia, Ericson, or some other great phone.
Sprint had junk. Some of us probably rode that out, and FINALLY they are getting some good phones...I've been on Sprint for almost 12 years now. I did move to VZW for 2 years, but ended up coming back to Sprint.
makes you wonder how they are even sustainable loosing that type of money every quarter.
The Nextel merger is STILL hurting them badly. Plus, they offer the cheapest plans but for the longest time they did not have the devices people wanted. Now they have the devices but people are stuck in contracts with other carriers. Another thing is advertisement and word of mouth. Sprint has never had the most eye-catching commercials. Us former Palm Pre users know the effect bad or no advertisement can hurt you. And I agree, the Nascar thing is wasted money when you have to spend more money rolling out 4G nationwide.
nukedukem said:
I'm sure the cost of upgrading to 4G has a lot to do with it. Plus I am ripping them off with my unlimited everything for $65 a month!!
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They're ripping you off charging you $65 a month for what cost them >$10 a month actually (after negating handset subsidies of course).
davebu said:
They're ripping you off charging you $65 a month for what cost them >$10 a month actually (after negating handset subsidies of course).
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Yeah, it's obvious Sprint is making a killing off of their subscribers since they are rolling in profits *eyeroll*
DanBergundy said:
ROFL!!!!!!!
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Has ANYONE even clicked on the Nascar icon on their phone?
I suspect no one.
Nascar fans are not technology nerds like us.
Customer service is complete garbage where I'm at.
Compared to other company's there plans are pretty cheap 10 for data with smartphone (or is it 4g) and mostly everyone else is 25-30.
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My opinion is that when they took nextel under their wing, nextel was bleeding money like a stuck pig. I think nextel is still bleeding, and now they are siphoning sprint dry.
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You gotta be careful when trying to rescue a drowning person. They might pull you under while trying to save themselves.
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1. Inexpensive plans
2. Good customer service
3. Yearly phone upgrades
Its sad but maybe being a "better" company can actually hurt your bottom line. Don't forget that Verizon lost money last quarter too.

Ca income tax on new phones

Just picked up the epic today. Best buy charged tax on the retail price of the phone and not the upgrade price. Is this common or only a california thing?
Btw digging the phone so far and using the keyboard to type this. Call me crazy but the keyboard almost feels too wide... hahaha
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dfitzpatrick said:
Just picked up the epic today. Best buy charged tax on the retail price of the phone and not the upgrade price. Is this common or only a california thing?
Btw digging the phone so far and using the keyboard to type this. Call me crazy but the keyboard almost feels too wide... hahaha
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CA law requires retailers to collect sales tax on the pre-discount prices of merchandise. I am not sure if any other states do this...the vast majority certainly do not.
thats sales tax, not income tax.
unless you stand on the side of the highway with a sign that says will work for phones.
btw, missouri does not do this. this is the first ive ever heard. ca must be hard up for taxes.
Idk how sprint does it but they charge tax on the discounted price I know that the shack did the retail price too not the discounted that's why I bought it from sprint themselves.
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It's California only. This state'd rape your grandmother if there was money in it for them.
Yup. Completely normal.
I forget that its charged on retail price so I'm always surprised when tax is a good 40-50 bucks on items like this.
There are only 3 states that require by law to have sales tax done prior to ANY discounts. California is one of them, and it's been that way for YEARS not just a recent change. RI is another iirc.
dfitzpatrick said:
Just picked up the epic today. Best buy charged tax on the retail price of the phone and not the upgrade price. Is this common or only a california thing?
Btw digging the phone so far and using the keyboard to type this. Call me crazy but the keyboard almost feels too wide... hahaha
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Yeah, California is arse-grabby like that. Ill swear that no other state does that rubbish. Certainly not the case here in NY. Sales tax is on the final price.
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LordLugard said:
Ill swear that no other state does that rubbish.
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Well, you shouldn't swear because you'd be wrong.
At least MA and RI have similar sales tax policy based on bundling/subsidization.
dragonisinogard said:
Idk how sprint does it but they charge tax on the discounted price I know that the shack did the retail price too not the discounted that's why I bought it from sprint themselves.
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I bought my Epic in a Sprint Store and I still had to pay tax on the pre-discounted price.
Weird at shack it came out to 493 something at sprint nearly a hundred less at 393
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Bought from wirefly. No taxes at all!
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yeah, wirefly and amazon are two places you can avoid taxes. I had to deal with the pre-discount tax on the iphone4 i had bought before.. AN IPHONE4.. what was i thinking??? lol. dealt with it on the epic as well...
vansmack said:
Well, you shouldn't swear because you'd be wrong.
At least MA and RI have similar sales tax policy based on bundling/subsidization.
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I promise not to swear next time.
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othan1 said:
It's California only. This state'd rape your grandmother if there was money in it for them.
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No it isn't, lots of states do it.
Some states will charge the full price no matter what. some states it will make a difference whether rebate is instant or mail in
Minnesota does it also, so I set up service through Amazon. Saved over 300.00 on 4 Epic phones, plus they were 149.99 this week for new customers. Saved a ton over BBY or Sprint stores.
cholepuree1 said:
yeah, wirefly and amazon are two places you can avoid taxes. ...
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Amazon now charges tax to California residents too, since the state passed a law forcing web retailers to collect taxes on purchases.
Boy, for a second there are was worried about all those hooligans cheating my poor state by ordering from online. Popular demand be damned! Pay your taxes! Afterall, the great state of california will put your money to good use.
(just an excuse to test my smiley button)
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at&t t-mobile merger

going on now http://www.c-span.org/Events/Lawmakers-discuss-ATT-T-Mobile-Merger/10737421452-1/
Interesting.
via EVO.
Sprint Nextel CEO Daniel Hess, who is against the merger, also testified. He argued that the merger will give AT&T and Verizon 80% control of the cellular market and would lead to a return of the MA Bells of the 1980s.
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Absolute truth.
But we're human beings, and even worse, Americans.
We don't learn from the past.
The deal will go through, you watch.
mattykinsx said:
Absolute truth.
But we're human beings, and even worse, Americans.
We don't learn from the past.
The deal will go through, you watch.
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No way, that would mean we have common sense
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I was watching that on CNN . Hope they work something out that's good.
It's not about learning from the past, it is about pure greed. The governement will allow this merger, than invest heavily in ATT/Tmobile/verizon and then allow them to take advantage of the american people so that their stock prices go up. Why do you think they haven't stopped the oil companies from jacking up the price of gas despite barely any change in price per barrel of oil?
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It's not about learning from the past, it is about pure greed. The governement will allow this merger, than invest heavily in ATT/Tmobile/verizon and then allow them to take advantage of the american people so that their stock prices go up. Why do you think they haven't stopped the oil companies from jacking up the price of gas despite barely any change in price per barrel of oil?
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This
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swanysto said:
It's not about learning from the past, it is about pure greed. The governement will allow this merger, than invest heavily in ATT/Tmobile/verizon and then allow them to take advantage of the american people so that their stock prices go up. Why do you think they haven't stopped the oil companies from jacking up the price of gas despite barely any change in price per barrel of oil?
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But it IS about learning from the past.
Pure and absolute greed have been shown in the past to have really bad results. Yet we don't learn do we?
My point made perfectly.
I love the T-Mobile commercials where they bash AT&T and the iPhone. I wonder if those will continue after the merger.
They willbget more taxes that way. And because they are a give part of our economy. Get huge part. The national government is the huge corporations *****. Why do you think. Apple, Google and Microsoft are allowed skeptical mergers. And the like
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the government trying to censor the internet

I saw this in the evo 3d forum wanted to spread the word
http://americancensorship.org/
Today, Congress holds hearings on the first American Internet censorship system. This bill can pass. If it does the Internet and free speech will never be the same. Join all of us to stop this bill.
Yeah this is scary stuff. I posted this on my facebook yesterday. It would open the door to what would be a very slippery slope. I'm not so much scared about the direct effects of this bill as I am what it would almost certainly lead to. You can thank the movie and music industry lobbies for this bill.
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Yeah this is scary stuff. I posted this on my facebook yesterday. It would open the door to what would be a very slippery slope. I'm not so much scared about the direct effects of this bill as I am what it would almost certainly lead to. You can thank the movie and music industry lobbies for this bill.
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a quick look at the list of organizations lobbying for these two bills should confirm for even the most vehement skeptic that money buys legislation

The ban is lifted!

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 sales ban lifted in the US
A temporary sales ban on Samsung Electronics' Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet computer in the US has been lifted by a US court. District Judge Lucy Koh gave a court order rescinding a ban on US sales that was part of a patent dispute with Apple. The ban was put in place on 26 June.
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Full story here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19796178
Hopefully they go on a big sale immediately and the development community gets a much needed surge of fresh talent and new users!
Sure hope they make Apple pay for the lost sales opportunity! Isn't that normally part of a sales ban enforced pre-trial?
fred_be9300 said:
Sure hope they make Apple pay for the lost sales opportunity! Isn't that normally part of a sales ban enforced pre-trial?
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Don't know, but given that the reason for the ban was rejected by the jury, Apple should pay.

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