anybody else getting results like this? What can I do to improve on this. The tablet is not rooted.
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Third one down is my result.
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I didn't benchmark but my tf300 feels faster than my hox, a fair bit actually....
I'm not at all disappointed (and it will only get better)
Edit: I've only done the build.prop modifications in the thread mentioned below.
I have never been one to hover over benchmark scores. But for not running optimized custom roms, the only really thing you can try is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219
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anybody else getting results like this? What can I do to improve on this. The tablet is not rooted.
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You. No.
Here are some benches after rooting and clocking to 1.5.
I also watched a video from Richie's closet on YouTube the Asus infinity tf700 vs ipad 3. So I tried 2 of the benchmark tests they used.
First one mine beat the ipad 3 by 15 to 20,000 but the tf700 got like 40,000 more.
Second one beat both ipad 3 by triple the score and beat the tf700 by 200.
So I am happy with the tf300 performance.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=4jdbtiNnZzE
Quadrant is a bad benchmark, can be influenced easily an score is heavily dependand on IO performance.
Hence the relatively bad scores for the transformers.... internal memory performance is very bad!
I tried overclocking with antutu cpu but I wasn't getting any performance gains when I benchmarked.
I respecfully suggest the quadrant scores do correlate. Over the past year I have had the following tabs and here is the rank in actual performance, using MAME Reloaded, FPse and N64 to test ram speed and cpu power (GPU as well for FPSe and N64). The HTC View is an apparent exception to the ranking from a single and dual core standard.
Thrive
View (Thrive benches better for some benchmarks, but actual View usage seems smoother- 1ghz vs 1.5ghz).
A510/TF300 Basically a tie (within 100 points).
Prime
Excite
Excite benchmarks about 13% faster than the A510/TF300 and the FPS of the emulators (on average) correlate. That said, ignorance is bliss, so if you do not actually sit with them and nitpick, they are all functionally the same for performance- IMO.
One thing I did notice is in spite of the View being a single core S4, it's 1.5ghz speed and memory channel appears better when downloading apps at the same time than the Tegra 2 and 3. All three SoCs have single channel memory, so none will win multi task battles. BTW, the memory channel (edit) a constraint/bottleneck most users experience when trying to download from the market or other sources while trying to run certain apps that are also using it.
Added: The 28nm S4 dual that is in the newer phones actually blows our Tegra 3 away for performance. In part due to the dual channel memory. I would prefer that SoC in the TF300 since also even better battery life and runs cooler (both due to the 28nm).
Sadly, it will be a while before we see many tablets with it since demand for then new phones from HTC and especially Samsung are killing supply until first quarter next year.
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I respecfully suggest the quadrant scores do correlate. Over the past year I have had the following tabs and here is the rank in actual performance, using MAME Reloaded, FPse and N64 to test ram speed and cpu power (GPU as well for FPSe and N64). The HTC View is an apparent exception to the ranking from a single and dual core standard.
Thrive
View (Thrive benches better for some benchmarks, but actual View usage seems smoother- 1ghz vs 1.5ghz).
A510/TF300 Basically a tie (within 100 points).
Prime
Excite
Excite benchmarks about 13% faster than the A510/TF300 and the FPS of the emulators (on average) correlate. That said, ignorance is bliss, so if you do not actually sit with them and nitpick, they are all functionally the same for performance- IMO.
One thing I did notice is in spite of the View being a single core S4, it's 1.5ghz speed and memory channel appears better when downloading apps at the same time than the Tegra 2 and 3. All three SoCs have single channel memory, so none will win multi task battles. BTW, the memory channel is the constraint/bottleneck most users experience when trying to download from the market or other sources while trying to run certain apps that are also using it.
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No its not the memory channel that's the bottleneck, it's not RAM that performs bad it's the internal storage.
I dont know what tegra2 device you tested but the Transformer1 performs aprox the same as the tf201\tf300 IO-wise (bad).
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No its not the memory channel that's the bottleneck, it's not RAM that performs bad it's the internal storage.
I dont know what tegra2 device you tested but the Transformer1 performs aprox the same as the tf201\tf300 IO-wise (bad).
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Very true on the flash being a part of the factor! Since a series process (especially with single channel) you are only as good as your weakest link. The only Tegra 2 tabs I have had are the A500 (only a few days) and the Thrive.
I find all the tablets noted above to have some issues with downloading from market and using other apps at same time to be near as bad. Again, the HTC View seems better and probably due to your point.
yep
My score was around 10k... but I'm waiting for some Genius to OC the kernel to blow those scores out of the water... i read in the Dev thread someone is using Faux kernel... (or asked him for help) either way I'm waiting for a Legit ROM with an even more legit OC Kernel
I think 10k is not bad at all for me considering that im using stock ROM. Plus, it really feels fast.
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I think 10k is not bad at all for me considering that im using stock ROM. Plus, it really feels fast.
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How do you get to 10k using the stock rom? Anything else than the build.prop?
I always match transformer prime or a bit more on antutu benchnark.. also this is not 1.5ghz on performance mode. Every single app atm missreads the tablet for 1.5 when it is 1.2. I have tried overclocking and when set to 1.5 it will score same as set to 1.2.
Dont forget to set performance mode before benchmarking and be on a fresh boot
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See attached..... run them just now on my new transformer eeepad
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Lets hope this is a starting point, as soon as I can get root I will run again. With overclocking. Waiting on Paul's release from modaco
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Okay few questions.
1. Why the hell does the iPad 2 score over a 170 in linpack
2. Why is the stock transformer scoring more than stock xoom in linpack and Quadrant?
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Okay few questions.
1. Why the hell does the iPad 2 score over a 170 in linpack
2. Why is the stock transformer scoring more than stock xoom in linpack and Quadrant?
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The Ipad score seems high to me too, the only difference i can come up with the Ipad 2 is its DDR2 memory is clocked at 1033mhz
As for the Tegra 2 Processor, the DDR2 memory is clocked at 133mhz
Plus we dont really know the bus speed of the Apple A5 or Tegra 2
I know the Tegra 2 has GPUs that come in 300 or 333 Mhz which could affect the quanrant score, also the speed of the nand could affect quadrant
Who knows
What comparisons can we make between A5 and Tegra 2 processors?
One hypothesis was that the A5 may have NEON enabled, while Tegra2 doesn't.
According to Anandtech, Qualcomm's dual core offerings should have NEON support, and it impacts Linpack performance:
The Scorpion’s VFPv3 FPU is fully pipelined. As a result, floating point performance is much improved. Qualcomm also implements support for NEON, but with a wider 128-bit datapath (compared to 64-bit in the A8 and A9). As a result, Qualcomm should have much higher VFP and NEON performance than the Cortex A8 (we see a good example of this in our Linpack performance results).
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Perhaps benchmarking Linpack on the HTC Sensation & Evo3D will shed some light on this.
Brandon
I think I will run the tests again with the class 2 micro sd taken out.... will post back later after work.
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I now have root, modaco custom rom, clockwork mod, and ive done anotherquadrant...
2986... setcpu just goes up to 1000, so need yo get some customer frequencies and voltages, time to build a setcpu txt file i think.......
Lets see if we can make it any faster.
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Is it a standard kernel?
So I ran some benchmarks today between my Acer Iconia a500 and my brothers motorola atrix 4g.
Quadrent.
Acer Iconia 2130
Atrix 4g 2586
How is it the atrix scores higher they both have tegra 2 chip and a gig of ram and he had a crapload of background task open also. In line pack i get bout 43 flops his around 55-70
Just found this interesting.
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So I ran some benchmarks today between my Acer Iconia a500 and my brothers motorola atrix 4g.
Quadrent.
Acer Iconia 2130
Atrix 4g 2586
How is it the atrix scores higher they both have tegra 2 chip and a gig of ram and he had a crapload of background task open also. In line pack i get bout 43 flops his around 55-70
Just found this interesting.
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A couple reasons. Quadrant is synthetic first of all, and only looking at one core. Synthetic means it's testing real world performance and not the actual hardware performance - this is great when you're testing 2 phones with the same resolution and similar guts but not 2 products that are this different.
The resolution of the Atrix is less than the A500 and Quadrant is testing at full screen so this weighs down the A500s results vs. the Atrix in synthetic benchmarks. Honeycomb is also significantly heavier than Gingerbread is. This means that for all intents and purposes, no Honeycomb device (tablet) will beat Gingerbread devices (phones) in these apps because Honeycomb right now is just too slow compared to GB. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's slow as in laggy I just mean it needs more optimizations and streamlining on tablets to catch up to how lean Gingerbread is on phones, especially in a case where we're talking about just 1 core.
Honeycomb is the Cupcake of Android for phones, so this is not a bad score at all.
You want to use something like Smartbench 2011 to test dual core stuff. It's synthetic as well, but it tests everything at the same resolution and will see both cores. Linpack also doesn't support multi-cores yet. Granted, the Atrix may still beat the A500 in Smartbench 2011, but it should be a much closer number like a matter of 100 or 200 or so. If the A500 beats the Atrix it's more than likely getting an unfair (but realistic) boost from not utilizing the full screen size for gfx tests.
Dont pay too much attention to those scores anyway.
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This means that for all intents and purposes, no Honeycomb device (tablet) will beat Gingerbread devices (phones) in these apps because Honeycomb right now is just too slow compared to GB.
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Quadrant is a total waste of time as a benchmark as it doesn't give you any real indication of the difference in speed between two different devices. However, it should be said that my Transformer does pull 3000+ on Quadrant running MoDaCo's custom ROM, and given that the hardware is almost identical between the A500 and Transformer, I would expect them to be broadly similar in terms of real world performance.
Regards,
Dave
When shall we get custom from?
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When shall we get custom from?
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As soon as we get unlazy and make one? I need to upgrade my hard drives to have any more space otherwise I'd at least **** around recompiling kernels etc. Also, have they even released the source for ours?
I get 2800+ everytime I do quadrant on my A500.. no complaints, but I am running CM7 on my touch4G and get 2600+ on that too. so I hate quadrant... it sucks..
Not sure how you get 2800 without custom kernel\rom. That is around a 30% increase from stock. My galaxy tab and sgs don't get the same benchmarks and they have the same cpu\gpu but different screen resolutions. The cpu\gpu work a lot harder with the higher resolution screens.
960х540 in Atrix
1280x800 in A500
Tegra got smoked
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-benchmarks-blow-us-away-20120503/
Hm.. Tegra 3 seems to win the GPU bench?
Quadrant sucks though. Will be waiting for more benchs.
Here are some other benchmarks (next to quandrant also SunSpider and browsermark)
Quadrant scores -
sgs3
cpu - 12781
memory - 4652
io - 7606
2d - 1000
3d - 2171
total - 5642
S4
cpu - 8505
memory - 7547
io - 6394
2d - 990
3d - 2204
total - 5128
tegra3
cpu - 12493
memory - 3472
io - 4769
2d - 962
3d - 2346
total - 4804
they seem pretty even in cpu/gpu capability. the s4 gets smoked in cpu performance according to those quadrant scores. interesting.. i thought it was faster.
Wow, the S3 doesn't seem to smoke the competition.
im interested about the antutu...can someone bring some more benchmarks?
Even if Tegra got smoked games will look better, so i'm really thinking how the S3 will be better in general use except for benchmarks...
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GPU performance gap between Tegra3 and Exynos4 Quad is huge
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Faster than iPhone4S' powervr sgx543mp2
LOL quadrant sucks so hard. the new mali 400 is killing tegra 3. according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html
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The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html
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um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites
Antutu Benchmark available here:
ph00ny said:
um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites
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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.
Here are some results from the Swedish androidsite "Swedroid". It's in swedish (doh!) but you should be able to look thru the scores anyway
http://www.swedroid.se/hands-on-med-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-forhandsitt/#disqus_thread
In my humble opinion. To say that the exynos "kills" the Tegra 3 is just...plain...wrong.
They seem to be very capable CPUs in both of these beasts!
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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.
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Did you see the gpu scores. Kills tegra 3.
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Imo they are very close to eachother, i would say exynos wins by a little margin could be just the software dragging it down, would love to see a pure ICS build doing the test.
Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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good benchmark do shows the raw power of the mobile, its never meant to test the user experience.
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Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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All the hands-on video clip made it seemed as if s3 is doing great in general ui transitions. It was noticeably quicker when used side by side.
Always astounds me how people are judging by benchmarks. I mean, its a phone, not a server station.
I wont be running virtual machines for rendering movies on it. I wont be playing Crysis 3 on it.
I`ll phone, message, watch clips, pictures, surf and use navigation. Even the single core phones can do that perfectly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bq3E_RfzxE&feature=g-u-u
You're welcome!
Benchmarks?
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Benchmarks?
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End of the video?
madhad said:
End of the video?
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Awesome. Gf is sleeping can't watch. How much ram is actually available after adreno and the 4g lte takes up some ram?
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youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
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youtube blocked at work, can someone please summarize the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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Good 14min summary of the phone. Much like every other S3 video. Does two benchmarks at the end.
Speed test gives ~21mb down and ~11 up.
quadrant was blazing fast during the benchmark. Scored 5099, beating everything in the market.
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The international version gets around 5665. Just saying.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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I have the international quad core version. Benchmark around 5200 - 5400 everyttime. The advantage comes from mostly the cpu score where all cores are used. However apart from benchmarks, I never saw more than 2 cores being used.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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Quadrant is the worst benchmark to compare anything to now a days.
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
Why do people argue over benchmarks? Both the s4 and exynos are fast and fluid and won't go wrong with either.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Wonder if the 2GB of RAM will help the S4 not lag. Especially while doing the popup video.
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Pop up video doesnt lag on my quad core version. However i am experiencing out of memory home screen restarts and browser crashed when opening too many tabs with flash enabled. My music player also auto quits sometimes when open up a new tab in browser or using any other memory hungry apps. Very annoying.
I have noticed using TouchWiz/Apex was causing the phone to lag a lot. I switched to Nova and the experience is smooth as silk. No freezing or ram issues yet, and i normally have 20 tabs open on Opera Mini + Music playing and whatsapp + email + gtalk+ wordfeud + a calendar widget + Gtasks widget
Opera Mini does its own memory management tho, clears pages once in a while, but not often.
edit - using the international quad core version -
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Thanks! What is the score for the int edition? Is he talking about battery life in the video?
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He had used the phone for over 8 hours before filming and the battery was at 40%. Looks like a strong battery, should definitely last as long as other phones.
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So i guess, both the International version owners and the N American version owners have something to look forward to when Samsung actually releases the next generation Exynos. Maybe then, the phone will truly be Universal (same internals/user experience).
where is the branding on the back?
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It has suddenly become the worse benchmark because somehow the dual core s4 can keep up with the tegra 3 and not far off exynos 4. People like to see benchmarks that's plays to their devices advantages. Antutu has become the new favorite as it scales well to four cores and not that critical of tegra 3 and exynos lack of memory bandwidth/ IO performance against krait. However in realworld usage I would say even quadrant paints an over optimistic idea of actual performance for quad core devices. Despite similar quadrant scores, multiple users who have both commented on faster and more fluid experience on the krait chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685030
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No, it's not programmed to bench current day processors that's why.
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Can you guys post some benchmarks. Thanks
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I got a poor 2200 from Quadrant
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I got 2042 on one run
I just benchmarked my 2011 Kindle Fire and it got a 2016 in quadrant. OMAP 4460 is supposed to be 20% faster clock than OMAP 4430(1.2ghz v 1ghz) so I would assume Kindle Fire HD gets 2400ish but that's only hypothetical.
6100 from Antutu benchmark. Really, pretty good for 1.2
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
Okay. Regardless, an score like that is quite mediocre
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
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Also, those benchmarks don't compensate for the OS - a vanilla version of the OS (Nexus 7) will run faster than one that is less efficient (KFHD). Real world is what matters to me. I bought a KFHD after playing around with one at Best Buy. I don't know if the review units had flaws, but I have experienced no stuttering or slow down. It is much smoother than I expected.
Also, popping flash on there was a breeze, as is sideloading any apps (minus google apps, but including YouTube) that you want.
Overall, a pretty great product. For me it simply came down to if a vanilla Android experience offset the HDMI out (awesome), dual wifi antennas, stereo (and usable) speakers, better screen (that isn't even an opinion if you've seen the screen), double the storage, etc. of the KFHD.
I don't think the difference is that night and day, when comparing the features, although I am happy you are happy about it. The only reason I truly want one of these is because my nexus had been having a lit of issues.
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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4460 vs 4470
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD is by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
^^^^^^
And all the while chips are getting faster and faster.
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ncvikingx97 said:
And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Is the difference between the two that extreme?crazy
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Now 6700 from Antutu benchmark. Sweet.
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Most of the literature I've seen says the KFHD 7 has a 4460 with an SGX544 (not an SGX540). Is this even possible ?
It would be great if it was. I don't think amazonvwants to desperate the two in hardware to the extreme of what others are saying
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
hax0red said:
It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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Just curious, what does it mean it is running as a virtual machine? Thank you
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