See attached..... run them just now on my new transformer eeepad
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Lets hope this is a starting point, as soon as I can get root I will run again. With overclocking. Waiting on Paul's release from modaco
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Okay few questions.
1. Why the hell does the iPad 2 score over a 170 in linpack
2. Why is the stock transformer scoring more than stock xoom in linpack and Quadrant?
seshmaru said:
Okay few questions.
1. Why the hell does the iPad 2 score over a 170 in linpack
2. Why is the stock transformer scoring more than stock xoom in linpack and Quadrant?
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The Ipad score seems high to me too, the only difference i can come up with the Ipad 2 is its DDR2 memory is clocked at 1033mhz
As for the Tegra 2 Processor, the DDR2 memory is clocked at 133mhz
Plus we dont really know the bus speed of the Apple A5 or Tegra 2
I know the Tegra 2 has GPUs that come in 300 or 333 Mhz which could affect the quanrant score, also the speed of the nand could affect quadrant
Who knows
What comparisons can we make between A5 and Tegra 2 processors?
One hypothesis was that the A5 may have NEON enabled, while Tegra2 doesn't.
According to Anandtech, Qualcomm's dual core offerings should have NEON support, and it impacts Linpack performance:
The Scorpion’s VFPv3 FPU is fully pipelined. As a result, floating point performance is much improved. Qualcomm also implements support for NEON, but with a wider 128-bit datapath (compared to 64-bit in the A8 and A9). As a result, Qualcomm should have much higher VFP and NEON performance than the Cortex A8 (we see a good example of this in our Linpack performance results).
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Perhaps benchmarking Linpack on the HTC Sensation & Evo3D will shed some light on this.
Brandon
I think I will run the tests again with the class 2 micro sd taken out.... will post back later after work.
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I now have root, modaco custom rom, clockwork mod, and ive done anotherquadrant...
2986... setcpu just goes up to 1000, so need yo get some customer frequencies and voltages, time to build a setcpu txt file i think.......
Lets see if we can make it any faster.
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Is it a standard kernel?
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Any info out there about this baby overclocked? Will standard overclocking tools work or does new software need to be devloped?
To overclock the cpu I think you'd need a custom kernel that allows it first. But if the bootloader is locked then custom kernels can't be flashed.
You won't have to worry about performance issues with tegra 2 for while though .
As if you needed to run Crysis on it?
Tough crowd this morning!
This site is here for getting the most out of devices. Rooting and removing bloatware increases performance. Customized ROMS increase perfomance and user experience. I merely asked about another tool for optimizing a device.
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To overclock the cpu I think you'd need a custom kernel that allows it first. But if the bootloader is locked then custom kernels can't be flashed.
You won't have to worry about performance issues with tegra 2 for while though .
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Haha,don't underestimate the people who hang out at XDA and other dev sites, we find ways to work these phones to the bone. I know for myself I will have probably 100 apps downloaded and installed in the first 24 hours, and will be testing its limits.
You have the best cpu in a phone ever and you want to over clock. Wow. Why?
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snapdragon was the best @ one time and most roms had overclock built in!
Snapdragon is the worst CPU for 1ghz. Even the TI OMAP is better than Qualcomm. The main reason wont buy anymore HTC phones is because of Qualcomm and there ****ty performance in phone in comparison to Samsung, TI, and now Nvidia.
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snapdragon was the best @ one time and most roms had overclock built in!
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Hence why he said 'at one time'.
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Snapdragon is the worst CPU for 1ghz. Even the TI OMAP is better than Qualcomm. The main reason wont buy anymore HTC phones is because of Qualcomm and there ****ty performance in phone in comparison to Samsung, TI, and now Nvidia.
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Snapdragon is far from being the worst CPU, clock for clock. First of all, Snapdragon is not a CPU, is a SoC (System on a Chip), and the CPU core inside Snapdragon is called Scorpion. Scorpion is neither a standard ARM Cortex A8 nor A9 core unlike the CPU core inside the Hummingbird/TI OMAP/Nvidia Tegra. But it can be thought of as among the same class as Cortex A8 CPUs. The Scorpion has some big advantage over standard Cortex A8 core in some areas (e.g. floating point). The reason why many found the first generation (in Nexus One and HTC Desire) to be "slow" was that they look only at composite benchmark like Quadrant and/or 3D games. The first generation of Snapdragon has a rather dated GPU (Adreno 200) in it, and Adreno 200's 3D performance is honestly, bad. The second generation Snapdragon (Desire Z/G2, Desire HD) uses a much faster GPU, Adreno 205, making the Snapdragon 3D performance on par with Hummingbird and other current generation SoC.
So before you go again saying Snapdragon is the slowest "CPU", go do some reading, and think, before saying. Here is some good reading for you:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...gra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/5
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Snapdragon is the worst CPU for 1ghz. Even the TI OMAP is better than Qualcomm. The main reason wont buy anymore HTC phones is because of Qualcomm and there ****ty performance in phone in comparison to Samsung, TI, and now Nvidia.
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if you blindly trust benchmarks the Scorpion CPU in the 2nd gen snapdragons are quite fast... my G2 benchmarks at...
Quadrant: 2,700ish
Linpack: 52.69
Sunspider:2,257
Neocore:57
infact, all of those benchmarks either match, or surpass the Atrix 4G.
No problems here with my snapdragon 1Ghz. linpacks constant 42+
Now that the phone is rooted can we use setCPU to underclock it so to save battery.
Or does setcpu not support dual core.
Also is what I said above true. if we have root we can underclock without putting custom kernels.
The nvidia tegra 2 kernel does not have a simple method to modify the CPU freq table. The dev working on the gtablet kernel would be a good resource to ask, his name is Pershoot. From my understanding he would have to backport the original ARM scaling which is not trivial in the least.
Maybe someone can figure out another way.
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As if you needed to run Crysis on it?
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Actually yeah, and who wouldn't? That's probably enough to get you instantly laid in some countries.
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Actually yeah, and who wouldn't? That's probably enough to get you instantly laid in some countries.
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Serious bragging rights right there.
Guy 1: "Damnit, I just got Crysis 2, and I can't even run Crysis 1 on my computer."
Guy 2: "Yeah well I can run it on my cell phone...look."
Guy 1's Girlfriend: "Take me, now, Guy 2!."
You get the picture.
Sorry to go off-topic there. But I do have a question. Isn't the Tegra 2 ARM9 based? And there's nothing wrong with wanting to push a device to it's limits. Overclocking is fun.
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Haha,don't underestimate the people who hang out at XDA and other dev sites, we find ways to work these phones to the bone. I know for myself I will have probably 100 apps downloaded and installed in the first 24 hours, and will be testing its limits.
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lol same here. I have about 45 installed on my Galaxy Tab and all of them will be installed on the Atrix immediately and tested. I plan on testing every single game I can find on the market lol biggest being Dungeon Defenders for now...runs a bit slow on the Galaxy Tab and I've heard on Tegra2 it runs *GREAT*.
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You have the best cpu in a phone ever and you want to over clock. Wow. Why?
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Because you can make it better. Why settle for less? My captivate is fast and does everything I need it to do at 1ghz but I have it at 1.3 now; and under volted.
Why? Because it is better.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
Is there a simple way to backup all the apps installed on my phone so I can just dump them instantly into a new phone? Preferably without having to hit "install" for every app on the market.
wow, its a dual core processor and you want OC... ugh, get out... lol
Hi, can anyone point me in the direction of the CPU/GPU specs for this, I know it isnt tergra so it might actually be able to handle some decent video specs.
most say that its the ti omap 4 series processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP_4
as there is only one model @ 1ghz in the 4 series, its the OMAP 4430
CPU 1-1.2 GHz Dual-Core ARM Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX540 @ 304 MHz
thats my guess
I want it!!!!! That's the gpu in my epic and it still tops smartbench 2011 in gaming performance!
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I want it!!!!! That's the gpu in my epic and it still tops smartbench 2011 in gaming performance!
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actually in epic its clocked to 200mhz and in the latest omap processor the sgx540 is clocked to 300mhz i have it in my optimus 3d and its the fastest GPU right now in a smartphone!
That extra 100mhz will go towards driving the extra resolution on the screen so your optimus 3d most likely will still be slightly better than the fire but should be the same as my epic
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shame its not going to have HDMI as those specs should be able to play FULL HD in High profile, still well with the money if we can get some decent cooked ROMS, definately keeping an eye on forum.
As the Archos 80 G9 has proven, the 4430 can play hi def video well, but Archos made special drivers to support the codecs. I doubt the Fire will have them. Higher def vid plays weak on the Droid 3 and Playbook. Especially MKV 720p.
That all said, what is the point, since no storage space? Unless going to store a few vids, there is only a few gigs (literally) of open storage for media and no card slot.
Tegra got smoked
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-iii-quad-core-benchmarks-blow-us-away-20120503/
Hm.. Tegra 3 seems to win the GPU bench?
Quadrant sucks though. Will be waiting for more benchs.
Here are some other benchmarks (next to quandrant also SunSpider and browsermark)
Quadrant scores -
sgs3
cpu - 12781
memory - 4652
io - 7606
2d - 1000
3d - 2171
total - 5642
S4
cpu - 8505
memory - 7547
io - 6394
2d - 990
3d - 2204
total - 5128
tegra3
cpu - 12493
memory - 3472
io - 4769
2d - 962
3d - 2346
total - 4804
they seem pretty even in cpu/gpu capability. the s4 gets smoked in cpu performance according to those quadrant scores. interesting.. i thought it was faster.
Wow, the S3 doesn't seem to smoke the competition.
im interested about the antutu...can someone bring some more benchmarks?
Even if Tegra got smoked games will look better, so i'm really thinking how the S3 will be better in general use except for benchmarks...
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GPU performance gap between Tegra3 and Exynos4 Quad is huge
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Faster than iPhone4S' powervr sgx543mp2
LOL quadrant sucks so hard. the new mali 400 is killing tegra 3. according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html
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The benchmarked result http://www.icsforums.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gets-benchmarked-shows-plenty-promise.html
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um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites
Antutu Benchmark available here:
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um no
That's stolen straight out of engadget and they have recorded the lowest performance out of any of these tech blog/news sites
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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.
Here are some results from the Swedish androidsite "Swedroid". It's in swedish (doh!) but you should be able to look thru the scores anyway
http://www.swedroid.se/hands-on-med-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-forhandsitt/#disqus_thread
In my humble opinion. To say that the exynos "kills" the Tegra 3 is just...plain...wrong.
They seem to be very capable CPUs in both of these beasts!
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In the video above it's got 5324 Quadrant and 11492 Antutu. Not much different from HOX.
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Did you see the gpu scores. Kills tegra 3.
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Imo they are very close to eachother, i would say exynos wins by a little margin could be just the software dragging it down, would love to see a pure ICS build doing the test.
Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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good benchmark do shows the raw power of the mobile, its never meant to test the user experience.
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Benchmarks mean squat.. it comes down to user experience.. if u can really feel the difference.. also, apps need to be fine tuned for quad core too.. so I guess u won't feel an actual difference..
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All the hands-on video clip made it seemed as if s3 is doing great in general ui transitions. It was noticeably quicker when used side by side.
Always astounds me how people are judging by benchmarks. I mean, its a phone, not a server station.
I wont be running virtual machines for rendering movies on it. I wont be playing Crysis 3 on it.
I`ll phone, message, watch clips, pictures, surf and use navigation. Even the single core phones can do that perfectly.
I installed CM7 with DSC Phoenix test2,overclock to 1344MHz.
when I bench with Quadrant Advanced ver2.1, my score is >1300 to 1400.
It's lower than my old milestone 1 (with CPU 600 MHz Cortex-A8 and GPU PowerVR SGX530, overclock to 1,1Ghz). quadrant score of milestone1 is > 1700. I dont know why?
And this morning I tested with HTC Incredible S of my friend (CPU 1 GHz Scorpion
and GPU Adreno 205, ICS rom without overclock). Score is > 1900.
Is my streak weak? I cant believe streak5 is slower than milestone1 and HTC Incredible S.
how about you?
I think many on here will agree with me when I say forget about the benchmark scores. They largely mean nothing as it relates to real world performance and you can drive yourself crazy trying to tweak your phone to death to increase the numbers. With that being said, the performance hit is likely in the file i/o section.
As normal user and not a programmer, I dont understand about the file i/o section. But thanks you, Lordmorphous. So I'll forget foolish scores, what a stupid app =))
File I/O = File input and output, which in simpler language is the act of reading and writing to the MicroSD cards.
Quadrant and other such benchmark tools are fun to run, but they don't mean much. To properly test a device requires a benchmark program like Futuremark's PCMark, which includes real-world applications and simulates real-world usage. There is no such benchmark app for Android however.
though, if you guys notice the benchmark for the quadrant advance 2.x, the i/o score for our DS5 does a bit low compared to others but... well you know, it just numbers... nothing more.. nothing less...
however, cpu power does have the impact when overclocked, for let say using default cpu speed of 1ghz, software decoding is a bit slow compared to overclocked 1.2ghz...
just my 2 cents
anybody else getting results like this? What can I do to improve on this. The tablet is not rooted.
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Third one down is my result.
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I didn't benchmark but my tf300 feels faster than my hox, a fair bit actually....
I'm not at all disappointed (and it will only get better)
Edit: I've only done the build.prop modifications in the thread mentioned below.
I have never been one to hover over benchmark scores. But for not running optimized custom roms, the only really thing you can try is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219
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anybody else getting results like this? What can I do to improve on this. The tablet is not rooted.
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You. No.
Here are some benches after rooting and clocking to 1.5.
I also watched a video from Richie's closet on YouTube the Asus infinity tf700 vs ipad 3. So I tried 2 of the benchmark tests they used.
First one mine beat the ipad 3 by 15 to 20,000 but the tf700 got like 40,000 more.
Second one beat both ipad 3 by triple the score and beat the tf700 by 200.
So I am happy with the tf300 performance.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=4jdbtiNnZzE
Quadrant is a bad benchmark, can be influenced easily an score is heavily dependand on IO performance.
Hence the relatively bad scores for the transformers.... internal memory performance is very bad!
I tried overclocking with antutu cpu but I wasn't getting any performance gains when I benchmarked.
I respecfully suggest the quadrant scores do correlate. Over the past year I have had the following tabs and here is the rank in actual performance, using MAME Reloaded, FPse and N64 to test ram speed and cpu power (GPU as well for FPSe and N64). The HTC View is an apparent exception to the ranking from a single and dual core standard.
Thrive
View (Thrive benches better for some benchmarks, but actual View usage seems smoother- 1ghz vs 1.5ghz).
A510/TF300 Basically a tie (within 100 points).
Prime
Excite
Excite benchmarks about 13% faster than the A510/TF300 and the FPS of the emulators (on average) correlate. That said, ignorance is bliss, so if you do not actually sit with them and nitpick, they are all functionally the same for performance- IMO.
One thing I did notice is in spite of the View being a single core S4, it's 1.5ghz speed and memory channel appears better when downloading apps at the same time than the Tegra 2 and 3. All three SoCs have single channel memory, so none will win multi task battles. BTW, the memory channel (edit) a constraint/bottleneck most users experience when trying to download from the market or other sources while trying to run certain apps that are also using it.
Added: The 28nm S4 dual that is in the newer phones actually blows our Tegra 3 away for performance. In part due to the dual channel memory. I would prefer that SoC in the TF300 since also even better battery life and runs cooler (both due to the 28nm).
Sadly, it will be a while before we see many tablets with it since demand for then new phones from HTC and especially Samsung are killing supply until first quarter next year.
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I respecfully suggest the quadrant scores do correlate. Over the past year I have had the following tabs and here is the rank in actual performance, using MAME Reloaded, FPse and N64 to test ram speed and cpu power (GPU as well for FPSe and N64). The HTC View is an apparent exception to the ranking from a single and dual core standard.
Thrive
View (Thrive benches better for some benchmarks, but actual View usage seems smoother- 1ghz vs 1.5ghz).
A510/TF300 Basically a tie (within 100 points).
Prime
Excite
Excite benchmarks about 13% faster than the A510/TF300 and the FPS of the emulators (on average) correlate. That said, ignorance is bliss, so if you do not actually sit with them and nitpick, they are all functionally the same for performance- IMO.
One thing I did notice is in spite of the View being a single core S4, it's 1.5ghz speed and memory channel appears better when downloading apps at the same time than the Tegra 2 and 3. All three SoCs have single channel memory, so none will win multi task battles. BTW, the memory channel is the constraint/bottleneck most users experience when trying to download from the market or other sources while trying to run certain apps that are also using it.
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No its not the memory channel that's the bottleneck, it's not RAM that performs bad it's the internal storage.
I dont know what tegra2 device you tested but the Transformer1 performs aprox the same as the tf201\tf300 IO-wise (bad).
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No its not the memory channel that's the bottleneck, it's not RAM that performs bad it's the internal storage.
I dont know what tegra2 device you tested but the Transformer1 performs aprox the same as the tf201\tf300 IO-wise (bad).
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Very true on the flash being a part of the factor! Since a series process (especially with single channel) you are only as good as your weakest link. The only Tegra 2 tabs I have had are the A500 (only a few days) and the Thrive.
I find all the tablets noted above to have some issues with downloading from market and using other apps at same time to be near as bad. Again, the HTC View seems better and probably due to your point.
yep
My score was around 10k... but I'm waiting for some Genius to OC the kernel to blow those scores out of the water... i read in the Dev thread someone is using Faux kernel... (or asked him for help) either way I'm waiting for a Legit ROM with an even more legit OC Kernel
I think 10k is not bad at all for me considering that im using stock ROM. Plus, it really feels fast.
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I think 10k is not bad at all for me considering that im using stock ROM. Plus, it really feels fast.
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How do you get to 10k using the stock rom? Anything else than the build.prop?
I always match transformer prime or a bit more on antutu benchnark.. also this is not 1.5ghz on performance mode. Every single app atm missreads the tablet for 1.5 when it is 1.2. I have tried overclocking and when set to 1.5 it will score same as set to 1.2.
Dont forget to set performance mode before benchmarking and be on a fresh boot
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