[Q] help deciding - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

Hey guys,
I am new to the HD2 Forum, I were previusly in the xperia x10 mini Forum.
I friend of mine would sell his HD2 for 100€.
I said that i will have a look and see how far the wp7 roms are.
- Are there any bugs in the WP7.5 Roms for the HD2 (Not WP itself)?
- What does battery live look like on a HD WP7 Rom?
- How fast and stable is WP7 on it (lets say on a good SD)?
- What is the best Rom?
- Are the WindowsLive Services working?
- Would you buy it for 100€?
Thanks in advance!
nailik0110

No , there are no bugs in WP7 roms.
Yes,there are lots of WP7.5 roms ,Mango and even Tango
If you choose a good sd card ,rom will work without any lags(not all sd cards are compatible ,i heard that class 6 works the best)
There is not a best rom.All works great
Yes windows live services works.You have to call microsoft to get an activation id , or get it from a friend , or from an xda member(i got it from an xda member)
100€ is a great deal,but depends how it sells your phone.In a good state or a bad one.And don't forget that you can also have android 4.0 and wp7.5 at the same time with dual boot on hd2

Okay thanks for the answer.
The phone is in a fantastic state
i think i will go for the XBmod Rom. (there are Tango updates for it or?)
I donwloaded HSPL3, which should be okay.
MAGLDR113 sjould be also fine!?
but i got a Problem to find the correct Radio Version, or the link is dead.
Which Rom do you use?
How is battery life? Can i live one day with data activated?

Sorry to steal your thread but former HD2 owner and I quite missed it.
I sold it back in January when new multitouch drivers were released but when photos taken with flash were still greenish. Was the latter bug fixed ? Did the new multitouch drivers really fix the OS responsiveness to touch ?
Is battery life any better (it was drained real fast when I last used WP7) ?
If in good condition, it's a good deal. If you don't take it, get me in touch with your friend !

DannyBiker said:
Sorry to steal your thread but former HD2 owner and I quite missed it.
I sold it back in January when new multitouch drivers were released but when photos taken with flash were still greenish. Was the latter bug fixed ? Did the new multitouch drivers really fix the OS responsiveness to touch ?
Is battery life any better (it was drained real fast when I last used WP7) ?
If in good condition, it's a good deal. If you don't take it, get me in touch with your friend !
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the green tint with flash pics will never be complete solved and have always been present since day 1 of wp7 for hd2. it requires a native camera driver in wp7 and htc is not providing one. as for the mutli-touch drivers seem to work for me and others.
people will always complain about the battery life of wp7 on hd2...hd2 was never meant to run wp7.
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nailik0110 said:
Okay thanks for the answer.
The phone is in a fantastic state
i think i will go for the XBmod Rom. (there are Tango updates for it or?)
I donwloaded HSPL3, which should be okay.
MAGLDR113 sjould be also fine!?
but i got a Problem to find the correct Radio Version, or the link is dead.
Which Rom do you use?
How is battery life? Can i live one day with data activated?
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i use yuki/xbmod. i can go a business day with data on. it depends on your usage and apps/processes.
as for tango for yuki/xbmod it'll depend on your carrier/ms. theoretically, yuki rom should update to tango automatically via zune. those roms claiming to be tango are using a BETA tango release. when ms releases the official tango you'll have to reflash once your chef releases a new rom.

DannyBiker said:
Sorry to steal your thread but former HD2 owner and I quite missed it.
I sold it back in January when new multitouch drivers were released but when photos taken with flash were still greenish. Was the latter bug fixed ? Did the new multitouch drivers really fix the OS responsiveness to touch ?
Is battery life any better (it was drained real fast when I last used WP7) ?
If in good condition, it's a good deal. If you don't take it, get me in touch with your friend !
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hjhjhj said:
the green tint with flash pics will never be complete solved and have always been present since day 1 of wp7 for hd2. it requires a native camera driver in wp7 and htc is not providing one. as for the mutli-touch drivers seem to work for me and others.
people will always complain about the battery life of wp7 on hd2...hd2 was never meant to run wp7.
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i use yuki/xbmod. i can go a business day with data on. it depends on your usage and apps/processes.
as for tango for yuki/xbmod it'll depend on your carrier/ms. theoretically, yuki rom should update to tango automatically via zune. those roms claiming to be tango are using a BETA tango release. when ms releases the official tango you'll have to reflash once your chef releases a new rom.
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Cammera is okay, i can't compare it to the WinMobile, cause i never really used.
The touch responisiveness for me seems better than under WinMobile. I only used that for a day or so.
Battery Life sucks. But I think I am doing something wrong with that. cause it only loads 88%. Will now falsh Yukis Rom and see how it behaves there.
Also, I have A Kingston 16GB SDC4. No Chance to get that working?

nailik0110 said:
Cammera is okay, i can't compare it to the WinMobile, cause i never really used.
The touch responisiveness for me seems better than under WinMobile. I only used that for a day or so.
Battery Life sucks. But I think I am doing something wrong with that. cause it only loads 88%. Will now falsh Yukis Rom and see how it behaves there.
Also, I have A Kingston 16GB SDC4. No Chance to get that working?
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wm6.5 is a resource hog...slow response. be sure to hard reset after flashing any rom...not doing so gives erratic phone behavior like battery indicator issues.
if your sd isn't working then try a different one. at least a class 6 is recommended.

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[Q] What does Android run like on HD2

Hi Guys I am after some answers:-
I was interested in the HTC Desire HD and did not realise that the HD2 could dual boot so run WM6.5 and Android and from what I have read Android runs off the SD card so I have a few questions:-
1) How does Android run pretty much flawless....slow...buggy and only 720p recording doesn't work everything else does?
2) Anyone have a Desire, Desire HD and HD2 for comparison ?
3) What ROM is most like the desire HD I like the interface on that.
4) Can you sync outlook calender with HD2 Android ?
I am no stranger to flashing I have always had windows phones and flashed custom cooked roms and spl's so from what I have read up I will be ok to set this up myself.
thanks in advance.
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
Thanks for the response so you would say that if I want a stable/smooth Android then go for the Desire HD or Galaxy S ?
I am on contract with T-Mobile at the moment and the Desire HD is out of stock and they can't tell me when it will come back into stock they have stock of the Galaxy which I here is due a Froyo 2.2 upgrade soon so the HD2 would have been the best of both worlds for me having WM and Android.
If you want pretty stable android, get native Android phones. If you want to have fun and have the choose to dual boot into Android,wm7, and megoo, get the Hd2. As far I'm aware, Android runs pretty damn nice on this babe. No major issues what so ever..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
If you mainly want android and want it stable, go with the android phone. I'd wait for the desire HD if I were you. A 4.3 inch screen is great to have. But if you think you actually want winmo and will actually use it, then you might want to look at the hd2. Android runs decently on the hd2 ... its good for a port, but it will probably never be as stable as a native android phone. It takes a lot of work, research, and trial & error to tweak the hd2 to get android running well, but most people can get it running pretty well with some work.
If I were you, I would wait for the desire HD... it has the most ram, a big screen like the hd2, but with newer hardware and better multitouch than the hd2.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.
Thanks Atoore, well I really want it for the app store, games etc so I take it that works fine ? and to have best of both worlds really windows and android.
Can you get Wm7 on the HD2 already ? thats anther bonus !
I just got text saying my Desire HD will be with me in a few days but my plan was to sell it BNIB on ebay then pick up a HD for probably half the price for a very similar phone !
Anyone got any views on this ? who has gone Desire to Hd2 or HD2 to Desire ?
Thanks again guys.
StephanV said:
Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.
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Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?
I am running Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean for a while now (5 days) and have no issues whatsoever. (battery life remains bad though)
I have been using Android on the HD2 for about 3 weeks now. I had some issue in the first couple of days until I found a good ROM that just works. but after that, I can't really say I have anything to complain about!
The device used to hang a little in the first few days, but the cause was mainly some of the apps I used.
I did not really use WM since I got Android running on my HD2. it's certainly much nicer experience!
I have been using this ROM for quiet some time now with minimal issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
If you have custom ROM on your HD2, then all you need is make sure that this ROM supports Android (most of them do), then download the files to your device and run Android... that's it.
As for outlook calendar, AFAIK, you can sync it with Google calendar, then this will be synced to your device (you need Google account to set up your HD2)
I would say, go for it and give it a try, it's very different from WM
My honest opinion is its more the fun in it, initially I had battery pulls and screens of death but know that I have my radio right and rom right, and honestly the only reason I've shut it down was due to dead battery or replacing the kernel, from what I've heard the battery life in the desire be isn't great, neither is android on the hd2, but its drastically cheaper and its a learning experience.... do it
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I am in the same boat as OP.
From what I have read, ROMs like Froyostone are totally solid.
People are claiming that it runs totally fine, with almost no issues at all.
I'm thinking of buying an HD2 just to run Android as my daily phone.
Would you not recommend this? I know the older roms were buggy, but from what i read it runs as good as a Desire (original).
Are people bullsh*tting? or is it really that good now?
I recently bought a HD2 just to run android.
Ive been using android on it for a few days and I gotta say its pretty good. Its not perfect, you do get some freeze ups, though they only last for a few seconds. Ive had some data drops, since then Ive installed the fix and it seems to be working fine now.
I know Id rather have the HD2 than the desire, the big screen is awesome.
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It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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As already mentioned: That's just completly bull****.
I'm running and upgrading my AndroidHD2 every few weeks since this summer and the first FroyoStone releases and pretty much all builds have become totally perfect, especially the desire builds.
I was running MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.6 until 1.7 was released this week and got freaking 3 days and 21 hours of battery life, that's almost a 400%+ compared to the days I was running WinMo 6.5.
If you're having fun to do stuff with your phone, tweaking it, installing new things and so on go for HD2, since its at 400$ atm I think.
If you just want a working phone and don't want to care about such stuff get the Desire HD oder whatever you like.
grandmaster_b said:
Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?
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There is no best combo, people get all kinds of different results even with the same setup. It's probably due to different SD cards, not too sure on that though. It's going to take you a few days to figure out what's good for you, but once you have your WinMo build and Radio good, probably every Android build will run just fine, leaving stuff up to your own taste. Coming from an HTC Magic, I really liked Cyanogenmod so I'm running all kinds of CM-based roms (currently JDMS 1.5, it's the most recent one). If you like Sense, MDJ's builds are probably your best shot.
But again, there's no guide on what is best. If you feel like experimenting a bit, you're gonna have a good time, but if you want a 'no hassle' phone go for the Desire (HD). I bought my HD2 especially for Android btw, found it for about €250 on ebay (unlocked), while a desire would be at least 400 for inferior hardware.
So its totally sweet then.
Wicked.
It's a great deal, especially as the desire has battery life issues, I don't see the advantage ?
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There's a reason HD2 prices on ebay have started increasing recently (at least in the UK) and it's because news is spreading about what can be done on it and what is in the pipeline. I only use Android on my HD2 and have done for two months now, Only reason I know what WinMo Rom I've got on my phone is cos it's listed in my sig lol.
Recent builds have gotten so stable I can't remember the last time I had an app crash on me, the market is flawless, I get very few data drops (and they don't last long either), camera is as good as under WinMo (5MP in other words) and very few other niggles. The main thing some peoples complain about is battery life, but that's only because they don't calibrate the battery properly (have your battery at 100% when you install a build and it will be fine tho).
I wanted a new Android phone but couldn't really afford a Vibrant, etc.
I decided to get the HD2, and I do not regret it. I use one of Darkstone's rom, and I've never had major issues with it.
I had some battery life issues, so I changed toHastarin's 8.2 kernel with Overclocking and Undervolting, and that solved my battery problem. I could get 2 days of light use if I wanted to, but I always use it a lot. With normal use I usually have 30-40% battery at the end of the day. With heavy use, I sometimes have to plug it in after about 12 hours of use, but that's rare.
rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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i have to agree with the other posters, that is bull. i use mccm build and i never had the need to pull the battery. if hd2 is far cheaper than desire hd and you prefer to save some money, i'd strongly consider hd2.
Im complety newbie in the android stuff....
first i buy HD2 only from WinMo...
but after i found so many fantastic build in XDA, im using android as daily for about a month now...
sure, it takes little bit working n searching.....
but for me, thats the beauty of it....
For now, i already found a couple build that i thought perfect enough, no lag or whatsoever....
but i still keep trying the other builds, just to see the difference...
sorry for my bad english........

Coming from Android.. how stable is it on HD2?

I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!
With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
bazinga said:
I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.
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Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do
Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory
As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...
I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.
personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.

[Q] Worth upgrading to?

I used to have a touch pro 2 but my screen died from a fall. Now I'm using a slow G1, and miss my touch pro 2. I can land a used HD2 in mint condition from 150 to 200. Would it be worth it? I'd also be most likely using android on it.
100% Yes.
For your money you will basically get a HD2,HD7 and a DesireHD, all basically same spec and you get choice of all 3 OS's aswell as ubuntu/meego etc.
The HD2 is was way ahead of its time in specs and still stands up their with the newer phones today so if you want a great and versatile phone for good price get a HD2 and have allot of fun trying all the different OS's/ROMs etc
ryohazuki said:
I used to have a touch pro 2 but my screen died from a fall. Now I'm using a slow G1, and miss my touch pro 2. I can land a used HD2 in mint condition from 150 to 200. Would it be worth it? I'd also be most likely using android on it.
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The HD2 is most deffenitly worth buying. If yout liked Win Mo on your Touch Pro then you will really enjoy the HD2.
Okay last question..
Is android on it good / stable enough for it for daily use if Win Mo doesn't satisfy me anymore? Cause I know WP7 still has a few kinks on it, but i'm curious on how android will run it such as battery life wise and stability. Will it last me a full day and what not.
ryohazuki said:
Okay last question..
Is android on it good / stable enough for it for daily use if Win Mo doesn't satisfy me anymore? Cause I know WP7 still has a few kinks on it, but i'm curious on how android will run it such as battery life wise and stability. Will it last me a full day and what not.
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Yes Andriod run great on the HD2. I run mine from SD card cause I love being able to choose wich one I want Win Mo or Andriod. The SD card builds are for the most part great but some require you to manually set up your APN whilel in Andriod to get a data connection astablished and most of all of them still have data drop problems but nothing that toggling airplane mode on and off will not cure. Also each build has it's on one or two things that are still not functioning right but nothing really that will hender day to day use. Things like the led not working for messages and missed calls and the camera not being as good of a quilty as in Win Mo these problems are being slowly worked out though.
I have not tryied a NAND Andriod ROM yet so I can not speak from personal experience. The people that I have read post from here on XDA and in the T-Mobile fourms is all good. They say e erverything works in the NAND builds. They also say they are lightning fast. There is some talk of the NAND Andriod ROMs putting a little more stress on the mainboard and screen but nothing comfimed yet.
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Yes Andriod run great on the HD2. I run mine from SD card cause I love being able to choose wich one I want Win Mo or Andriod. The SD card builds are for the most part great but some require you to manually set up your APN whilel in Andriod to get a data connection astablished and most of all of them still have data drop problems but nothing that toggling airplane mode on and off will not cure. Also each build has it's on one or two things that are still not functioning right but nothing really that will hender day to day use. Things like the led not working for messages and missed calls and the camera not being as good of a quilty as in Win Mo these problems are being slowly worked out though.
I have not tryied a NAND Andriod ROM yet so I can not speak from personal experience. The people that I have read post from here on XDA and in the T-Mobile fourms is all good. They say e erverything works in the NAND builds. They also say they are lightning fast. There is some talk of the NAND Andriod ROMs putting a little more stress on the mainboard and screen but nothing comfimed yet.
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Sounds good to me. Gonna do a little more research on nandroid and probably choose from there. It looks like i'm most likely gonna go on to the HD2. It's such a beast of a device with all the different options you have, and I love it. I love tinkering with my phone all the time and just messing with it in general.
ryohazuki said:
Sounds good to me. Gonna do a little more research on nandroid and probably choose from there. It looks like i'm most likely gonna go on to the HD2. It's such a beast of a device with all the different options you have, and I love it. I love tinkering with my phone all the time and just messing with it in general.
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Well the HD2 is deffinitly a phone you would like cause there is no other ohone out tbere that you can tinker/tweek as much as the HD2. Buf make sure to read therowly about any process, procidure, or tweek you want to preform to it before you do it.
What kind of HD2 are you looking at buying. Is it a european HD2 or a T-Mobile HD2?
just a quick add on to this. i used to have a touch pro 2 as well till it got stolen...good thing i had property and contents insurance. but anyway, once you get the hd2 the first thing you "might" miss is the physical keyboard and/or the stylus. for me it took about a week or so to adjust when i got my hd2. but you'll get the hang of it and pretty soon you're good to go. you might consider getting a bigger keyboard application though (one in android or wm6.5).
android is smooth on my hd2 and i am using it daily
however, winmo 6.5 sometimes give me hiccups.

[Q] Multiboot WM6.5, WM7 and Android?

I'm a newbie at flashing HD2. I'd like to use both Android and WM7 before maybe choosing one of both. But I have several apps like a gps tool that work only on WM6.5. Therefore i'd like to keep WM6.5 also. Is there a way to multiboot these phone OSes? I have seen another one posting this question in January but no one has answered so far.
Also I didn't understand the required steps to set up either 6.5 or 7 as main os and dual boot (just in case multiboot is not necessary) and Android.
Can somebody synthetise the steps please? What do I need?
I know this is probably redundent with things already written but I didn't full understand what has to be done.
Thanks for any help,
Who
this is not yet possible as windows phone 7 and windows mobile both only work off nand and you cannot have to os on the nand memory
Ok...
Not cool. I have co-pilot live GPS system on 6.5 and some other stuff I bought. Is it worth it to change to WM7? How about synchronizing with outlook, active sync is replaced with zune. Is it ok?
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Ok...
Not cool. I have co-pilot live GPS system on 6.5 and some other stuff I bought. Is it worth it to change to WM7? How about synchronizing with outlook, active sync is replaced with zune. Is it ok?
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I have to say im torn between the two but only on a couple of points
Wp hands down beats WM in just about everyway you can think of, i sure as hell wouldnt change it now that im used it, getting used to it is the key point there, it is different from WM, it does not pretent to be it, it does not pretend to be anything other than WP.
Outlook syncs fine if you use an exchange server or live service, i have one of each that syncs with my phone and i dont have issues at all.
However i do miss the little things of WM, namely that its a beast of an OS, it'll do almost anything you throw at it, i have some amazing WM programs that i really need so i have my old Touch HD running them now.
I would gladly pay money for someone to get WM running of an SD card, however i believe one of the differences of WM2003 and WM5 was that WM had to have persistant storage, (WM2003 devices used to effectively hardreset when you pulled the battery unless it had the backup battery) Essentially the OS was ran from RAM and this is where i think it might not be possible as WM5 cant be run from RAM, at least to my knowledge
Thanks a lot for your evaluation
For a while I was torn between Android and WP7. Until the very recent updatable Mango release (THANKS YUKI AND XBMOD!) the Android Nand install was a clear winner - no matter how many times I tried WP7, I missed my Gingerbread too much. Now with Mango I am finally throwing in the towel and installing Android on SD, just to end my suffering, hehe. WM6.5 wasn't even in the running, to be honest, I spend the past 8 years with various WM builds and just as many devices from 2003 onwards, still have my HTC Universal with WM6.5, but have no desire to use it at all on my HD2.
Mango is pretty sweet, smooth and visually lovely.
Ok with all this, for now i'll stick with WM6.5. Although WM7 is very attractive I have to much stuff depending on 6.5. Now I'd like to load Android on an SD so that I'll use most of the time Android and when needed, reboot to 6.5. But at the threads for Androids on SD I have difficulties finding the build that works best. Can someone point me to the most reliable threads or the place I can find the required, most stable stuff?
Thanks for all the help already given.
you can use co-pilot on an sd android build http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738128.
WP7+android+co-pilot
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you realise there is a point of the ten post thing? partly so new inexperienced users dont post crap in the forums
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you realise there is a point of the ten post thing? partly so new inexperienced users dont post crap in the forums
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With my experience with forums that require a certain number of posts, it often leads to posts worst than crap! Senseless crap! I rather people post stupid questions rather than senseless crap. Just my opinion.
On topic: It'll be groundbreaking if anyone can accomplish getting WP7 and 6.5 booting on the same phone. Their status on XDA would become legendary! Last I heard DFT abandoned that notion. I sure wish they would have more transparency with their projects. Maybe somebody outside their team can give excellent ideas. Why limit yourself?
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How about a ban or two to go with your stupid posts?
I am not sure I would be keen on booting WP7 and WM6.5. Can't say I miss 6.5. Everything I needed I found in Android and navigation seems to be better as well. So even if it was available, I wouldn't bother.
And what Android and WM7 build/thread do you advice?
VojvodaMomcilo said:
need 10 stupid posts
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Yeah and I need to use the stupid REPORT button, say goodbye to your posts.
who_am_i117 said:
Ok with all this, for now i'll stick with WM6.5. Although WM7 is very attractive
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Dude, there is no such thing as WM7.
Ok my misstake. I meant ofc WP7. Not WM7. But so far no one pointed me to a good stable and recent version of android. Any help here please? I looked at boxmax but that doesn't seem to work that well. Even with patches I still see graphical glitches. I also didn't find an option to either revert from the SD loaded andriod to WM6.5 but neither could I find a 'turn off' button so I could restart the phone in WM6.5. I had to remove the battery.
So thanks again to finding a good working Android for SD
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Yeah and I need to use the stupid REPORT button, say goodbye to your posts.
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Well donealthough I think he/she only posted them so that he/she could thank someone for sending an MS activation code. still no excuse.
who_am_i117 said:
So thanks again to finding a good working Android for SD
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Its in my sig below
I used Yuki's Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 2.8-3.0 Nand, so went with the same for SD install after the latest Mango 7220. I doubt any version that runs off SD will ever compare to Nand. The same Android that was flawless off Nand has proven to be a bit sluggish and somewhat less stable. Still, can't complain really - got the best of both worlds and my torment about what OS to use is no longer.
The only thing that would make it perfect would be non SD locking Mango with a simple menu within OS to alternate between the two.
enigma1nz said:
I used Yuki's Gingerbread 2.3.4/5 2.8-3.0 Nand, so went with the same for SD install after the latest Mango 7220. I doubt any version that runs off SD will ever compare to Nand. The same Android that was flawless off Nand has proven to be a bit sluggish and somewhat less stable. Still, can't complain really - got the best of both worlds and my torment about what OS to use is no longer.
The only thing that would make it perfect would be non SD locking Mango with a simple menu within OS to alternate between the two.
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YUKI's GONE OVER TO ANDROID???
I can't find it anywhere!
Are you sure

[Q] HD2 Best android or stay at WM ?

Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks
Cjovecje! said:
Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks
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*sigh* search the forums for exactly the same question(s) asked billions of times over.
Swtich to Android
First try it out on SD, find a ROM you like
Flash a NAND ROM using this guide
You will not have any issues.
I like android better but it can be frustrating because every Rom seems to have some kind of issue, so you have to settle for something less than the perfect.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
But still u didnt told me will there be any problems regarding android on HD2 ?
Cjovecje! said:
But still u didnt told me will there be any problems regarding android on HD2 ?
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And you still haven't learned the concept of reading have you? I said there won't be any issues (none that are significant) and if there are any issues it will be listed in the OP of the ROM.
Even though android ROMs by our developers are not perfect and have small issues, from my experience I can say that WM has MUCH more issues than any android ROM out here.
sahunt1 said:
I like android better but it can be frustrating because every Rom seems to have some kind of issue, so you have to settle for something less than the perfect.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda premium
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haven't had any issues on many Android Roms
Cjovecje! said:
Hi i am soon to get HTC HD2. On phone is factory WM6.5. My question is next :
Should I stay on WM 6.5 or switch to android ? If u suggest switch to android can u suggest NAND ROM with sense and everything working? Will I have some problems if i flash android(like camera problems,fm radio etc)
Be specific as much as u can. Thanks
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depends on u'r primary use of the phone. from my personal experience (mind it, PERSONAL experience):
1. WM6.5 will give u better battery life. and it's an amazing os in terms of ability to customize. but the default os feels obsolete.
2. to me, why live with just one when u can have both? SD android is my preference. in fact, after a bit of tweak which u will learn eventually, none of the nand android that i've tried or those on my my frnds devices runs better or smoother than my SD build (with MGLDR). and that includes even desire HD.
3. have u tried WP7.5? unless battery life is extremely important for u, WP7 and SD android with MAGLDR is the best combo, in my opinion.
WP7 is still at its initial stage and thus have limitations that will get fixed in time. having android side by side can help overcome those issues.
it's really a matter of personal preference.
welcome to the amazing world of HD2. really the king.
I am getting better battery life on NAND than I was getting with WM6.5
Just my experience.
However, android turns this phone into something many steps higher.
Unsolvable problems I had on WM took about 1 min to solve in android.
Really, the difference is unbelievable.
I switched to Android
The month I made my last payment to T-Mobile for my unlocked HTC HD2, Microsoft dropped support for WM 6.5 and closed the marketplace. Aloqa (one of my favorites stopped working, and it became obvious that I was on my own.
A quick check showed that iPhones don't run on T-mobile, and I no longer trusted Microsoft, so I started researching Android phones. Surprise! The best value Android phone was the one I already had: my HTC HD2!
My initial concern was the interface between my phone and Outlook on my desk top. That had been the principal reason I went with Windows Mobile in the first place. I run my own mail server and had no intention of turning everything over to Google's cloud. It looked like there were several solutions available so I got started.
My first step was to install an SD version on my SD Card. I chose a ROM with HTC Sense in it because it seemed closer to my WM6.5 experience. It proved that my phone could run Android. I tried using HTC Synch to manage my contacts and calendar. It never quite worked so I switched to Android-Synch and I'm happy with that.
I soon became aware that there were two main problems with my choice of ROM:
Performance: There was significant lag in responding to events.
Storage Space: There wasn't much room left for installing Apps.
So I decided to dump WM 6.5 and flash my ROM with native Android. I decided against Sense for space reasons and chose LEO HD ICCMS in order to get the latest UI. With a few minor glitches it has worked very well for me. Here are my observations in no particular order:
The App Market is far richer than what we had on Windows Mobile!
Widgets allow you to prsonalize the pages of the home screen.
Non-gmail operation is the major departure from common Android usage. Android-Sync created accounts not linked to the cloud. K-9 mail handles my IMAP account just fine.
Apps are cheap. They sell by the million for just a few bucks.
The best widget for calendar and mail for me is Executive Assistant.
With no ROM permanently on my 16 GB SD card, I have room for tons of music. Power Amp is my player.
I do a lot of photography. HDRCam and Quickpic turn my phone into a serious tool.
I had been using OneNote Mobile. It is replaced by Mobile Noter.
Bottom line: for less then $100 in apps I ended up with a phone far superior to what I had with WM 6.5. It should last me until I can't live without 4G radio, the one new piece of hardware I'm missing.
Yes Correct, It does give a better Battery life but in General , some little ignorable glitches with seasoned NAND roms is better than fully functional WM 6.5, I flashed the mwakiousROM® 0.23.1 yesterday ( my second flash in two days after 1.5 years of WM 6.5) and the results are great !

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