Before to procede, remember all electrial component can have fault so exist warranty. If you want, procede at your own risk loosing warranty
For this tutorial is raccomanded professional leadfree soldering iron
i solved my gps problem, it is hardware problem, so no settings, gpsaids and no other solution helped me.
Problem is caused by bad gnd conductivity between mainboard and antenna. It is conduced by:
1) CONDUCTIVE GUMMY (suggest me better name if you have ) This kind of rubber was used for old nokia 8210 for connect display to mainboard. It was the mayor fault for nokia 8210.
2) back cover gps antenna: When phone become hot, antenna go back and not good touch with motherboard. Then, when phone isn't hot, gps antenna remains with a kind of "hole"
First try software fix (it not helped me) then try my solution
Solution:
Attention: it will avoid warranty, do it at your own risk, i'm not responsable for any fault.
SOLUTION:
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here is antenna contact not used for my european i9000
Please check by yourself if it touch with your variant antenna,
if it is not used, you can remove and solder where was rubber
Now gps signal is immediate for me
Best regards
Leeno
The first picture is before and the second afterwards?
i moved in this third post the other solution,
it is easyer then solution in first post but i not like it because is not clean
Attention: it will avoid warranty, do it at your own risk, i'm not responsable for any fault.
For solve it i just removed rubber and soldered antenna to gps gnd mainboard like the picture.
Attention: if you use unprotected wire like picture, make sure it touch only gnd, not other components or you can damage phone.
Gnd require hard conductivity so
DO NOT USE VERY THIN WIRE
Ping-Pong said:
you csn also use gps files extracted from nexuss gingerbread
i think those have not changed in GRK39F
but i will be checking that today
ics.samsung-updates.com/stockplusmod/GPS_GRK39C.zip
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software can't fix hardware issues,
your posted file will only update settings and north american server for gps
i fixed i9000 froyo with my fix
Looks interesting. Might give this a go thanks.
Sent from my Android shizzle!
Where do you find the "third antenna contact"? I guess there are three and I do not want to take the second ...
here is antenna contact not used for my european i9000
Please check by yourself if it touch with your variant antenna
I thought that the other connection was for GPS
What is the reason of this post? This fix is well known. A search might be helpful from time to time. The only useful info in this thread is the fact that you figured out that the other antenna is not used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
Besides yours there is also another post that does the same thing. Takes you to the first one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043034
So no need for another one.
Trak-X said:
What is the reason of this post? This fix is well known. A search might be helpful from time to time. The only useful info in this thread is the fact that you figured out that the other antenna is not used.
So no need for another one.
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No, sorry, you're wrong.
THIS fix were not known at all! The thread you linked just refer to pull up the OTHER contact of the gps antenna, not the RUBBER ONE, which actually is the source of the problem.
So the next time please read carefully before suggesting someone a search.
This thread is VERY USEFUL! This man deserves all the praise and should be acknowledged of the REAL FINAL GPS FIX which turned my phone into what should have been since the first day!
I was skeptical to say the least.
but this time, I have to admit: this solution works INSANELY WELL.
I made my own modded version, though. I removed the third unused antenna contact, and placed it over the conductive rubbed. no soldering involved. pressure keeps the contact in position and enhances the connection between antenna and mobo, similar but more effective than the other older solutions.
btw, I also changed server from europe.ntp.org to xtra1.gpsonextra.net, just like in my old acer liquid which locks really instactly.
connecting now in seconds in my living room (!!!) with 7 to 9 satellites. awesome. never happened before.
you deserve a huge thanks.
I did it this morning. I removed the rubber and soldered a wire between the contacts. I never had such a signal on my i9000, the gps works perfectly.
Huge thanks from here too.
anyone can post a picture of the contacts to connect on european i9000 ?
any screenshot of gps test ?
thx a lot to everyone
oracula whedka
wowww:good:
duffymm said:
anyone can post a picture of the contacts to connect on european i9000 ?
any screenshot of gps test ?
thx a lot to everyone
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pictures in first post are self explaining.
I did not bother soldering anything. Just removed the unused antenna with some tweezers and placed it on top of the existing conductive rubber (but reversed upside down, though, to keep it level), I used a tiny bit of duct tape to hold it in place and to be sure it does not touch any other contact on the mobo.
I cannot exclude to solder it or use some conductive glue in the future, anyway, it sounds safer.
I can confirm this is THE solution. I am really astonished.
duffymm said:
anyone can post a picture of the contacts to connect on european i9000 ?
any screenshot of gps test ?
thx a lot to everyone
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I use tutorial from first page, remove useles antenna connector and ruber. Put connector on rubber place (after clean connect) and gently fix with hot glue. After assemble phone use gps test but speed is same slow like before first fix time 03:06. I check contacts and all god.
@lcampori where u change from europe.ntp.org to xtra1.gpsonextra.net ?
(sry for bad english)
trut said:
I use tutorial from first page, remove useles antenna connector and ruber. Put connector on rubber place (after clean connect) and gently fix with hot glue. After assemble phone use gps test but speed is same slow like before first fix time 03:06. I check contacts and all god.
@lcampori where u change from europe.ntp.org to xtra1.gpsonextra.net ?
(sry for bad english)[/QUOT
gps.conf in /system/etc, you need a rooted phone the mod this file.
default server in sgs1 is "north-america.pool.ntp.org" which supposedly is not correct for european users. following suggestion here at xda, I changed the line to "europe.pool.ntp.org" months ago, and now after givig a look to gps.conf in the acer liquid to "xtra1.gpsonextra.net" and live happily with that.
I do not think this is the point, anyway. My old acer liquid uses "xtra1.gpsonextra.net" and locks sats in the blink of an eye, ditto for my wife's htc desire which has "pool.ntp.org". Any software related mod could be just placebo.
as far as I know (google search..), hot glue is not conductive. if so, you are not fixing anything. but I might be wrong.
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I use hot glue just from side to fix connect in place and check with multimeter all good. In my gps.conf i change from "pool.ntp.org" to "europe.pool.ntp.org" voila first fix time 00:31 and also me not use any help like wifi or mobile data just clean gps. However this fix work...
Hmmm....
I will give it a try soon.
Thanks man!!!
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Hi all
yesterday, while trying to put my device into my jeans pocket, i left it and it fall down to the ground... No damage at the moment after a first check... everything ok... BUT... after coming back home, i've put it into the connection base and anything happened... i've tried softreset but anything happened too.... so i've noticed, looking at the bottom of the qtek, that the port for the cable/base connection wasn't ok.
Here is the problem.... i get no activesync connection or power charging because the port is damaged... i've found that this port moves in every direction and so it isn't well attached to the mainboard. So i decided to disassemble the device to understand what is the problem whit my qtek.
After disassembling it, i noticed that the port has lost the weld that locks it to the mainboard...
And now??? What to do??? The port is completely detached and i think that there is no way to weld it again to the MB.
I'm out of warranty time too and i think that the warranty doesn't cover this kind of problem even because the technician will understand the reason of the unwelding.... and even because i'm not using my original rom from qtek....
So i thought one thing... is there any way to find a cable to connect the device from the port that i found just under the battery??? Where can i find the right cable??? And will it be usefull to get back again all the functionalities???
Please help.... i don't want to break up from my qtek so soon.... and i would like to wait few months before to buy a new device... (universal).
Hope someone will give me some advices... or suggestions.
Bye.... MINDGAP.
Anyone's got an advice for me??? Anyone can help???
I'm in troubloe here and i would like to understand if i could make my own cable to use from the back door port that i found under the battery cover of my device.
I tried to look in the himalaya wiki page but i found anything about this port.... only connection for the main port... that i can't use anymore because it's completely distroyed....
Please help me i can't believe that i'have to throw away my pocket pc only because of this problem....
What i would like to understand is if i can weld the port back again to the MB or even to give power from the port that is placed under the battery to use it only like Navigator in my car.
Please let me know if i can find a cable or a different solution in order to get my device back with all functionalities... i could even send the device to someone who could repair it and send it back again.
I would pay to have it back repaired.
Hope someone will help.
Thanks and have a nice day!
some images from the disaster!!!!
ok... here u are some images taken this afternoon.... featuring my POOR DEVICE..... terribly wounded.... almost dead!!!!
Hope these images will help you in trying to find a solution....
THIS IS THE SITUATION HERE.......
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THE CONNECTOR IS FULLY DETACHED FROM THE MB.... AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BUY ONE BRAND NEW... OR IF I CAN USE THIS ONE AGAIN.......
HERE U ARE TWO IMAGES OF THE MB WITHOUT THE CONNECTOR... AS U CAN SEE.... THE MB IS NOT DAMAGED AT ALL..... AND I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A WAY TO RESOLD THE CONNECTOR......
ONE DOUBT ABOUT THIS LAST PICTURE.... IS THE SECONDARY PORT USABLE???? WHERE CAN I FIND A CABLE OR CONNECTOR THAT MATCH WITH IT????
LAST PICTURES SHOW THE STATUS OF THE CONNECTOR AND THE CAGE THAT PROTECTS IT.... IS THERE ANYWAY TO USE THEM AGAIN???
I HOPE THAT SOMEONE HAS SOME SOGGESTIONS FOR ME BECAUSE AFTER A SEARCH ON THE FORUM I FOUND ONLY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONNECTORS BUT NOT IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO SOLDER AND TO BUY A NEW ONE.......
Thanks in advance just for reading this post.... and thanks much more for answering.....
Mindgap,
go to www.ipaqrepair.co.uk, order the Switch Board Socket 22 Pin (3800 Series)
Product code: 204
link is:
http://www.ipaqrepair.co.uk/view_product.php?product=204
I think your device will be good as new.
good luck
ATC
Thanks for everything u did for me ATC.....
I hope my device will be back soon...
Best regards.
Mindgap
if this is still a problem for you and all else has failed then I would be preperd to try and resoulder the connection for you I do have all the right equipment and I have experance as I have chiped sevreal Xboxs and thay have a fue fiddley bits plus I was traned to militry spec in solderin at EEV but there is no garantee but from what I have seen I may well be able to do the job. You can pm me in here and I will be watching this thred.
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Well I've had also this problem once. I have broken this connector off the board with the charging adapter from charger. Anyway it isn't too difficult to repair that if you are a bit handy. Just use a micro-solder and carefuly sold the connector back.
Important:
1. Don't plug the battery while you repair that!
2. Use the rosin to prevent decant the pewter on the pins
3. Use the pewter-suction band to remove the pewter from the connector if is it too much
4. When finished,use a mechanical tools to remove the rest of the rosin. Don't use alcohol based solvents(I have damaged the JoyStick with Isopropyl-Alcohol)!
5. Ensure that all pins are solded separately and no pins are bridged by soldering!
Probably this will result as a Hard-reset,because the repair will take probably more than 30mins without battery or you can short-circuit the backup battery. Therefore backup all your data(WM5-Only RAMdisk).
In the meantime, you could still communicate with your wounded beast say using Activesync over Bluetooth (that will sort out your sync issues and allow you to have an up to date copy of your data). Similalry if you have or can get an SD card you can dunp copies of data onto that too.
Also if you can get your hands on a second battery quickly enough, use the cradle to keep one bat on charge while using the other in the device. Regularly swap over will mean that you can at least use your Himam until you are in a position to solder new/old parts.
Regards - Mallow1
Can some one post a topic or a detailed manual on how to disassemble the hima?
Regds Aldo
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You need to remove the black antenna cover. After that is it easy. Just few screws. Remove all parts in cover neighbourhood(card,stylus,antenna connector cap). Then release both hooks located at the top of the battery with your nail or small screwdriver pushed into the stylus hole and at the volume-slider location. After that release fixings in surround of the card slot. Do it easily and carefully! Otherwise you can break the plastic. You can find also the service manual at wiki.xda-dev,but DON'T do it that way! That procedure is wrong.
Disassaemble
Can anyone send some pictures on how to disassemble the qtek. Which screws do we need to pull out and how do you do that?
hi i did assemble the connector my self , but i m in Egypt , Cairo ...if you like call me on my handy
+20123382923
Jimmy Rag
EDIT: 30/1/2012.
Just a follow up on this fix. Well, got sick of constantly having to replace the tape under the battery cover. Over time it flattens, so since I now use the S2 as my daily phone I decided to open it up.
First I found the GPS connection on the motherboard. It connects to / touches a small metal piece on the inside of the rear housing. It's like a U shaped connector so I decided to lift it up with my fingernail.
For a little while it worked great but the problem returned. So I decided to open it up again and lift the connector even higher. Unfortunately I broke it leaving only a flat bottom metal piece on the motherboard side. There was now no way for the 2 pieces to touch so I screwed it completely.
So I then decided to solder a small bit on the rear housing side. I did that and put it back together. Ever since then the GPS has truely been 100% fixed. It hasn't missed a beat over the last 3 or so months of trying.
END EDIT.
NOTE: This is a hardware fix for those whose GPS is completely busted (NO sat views & lock). It is NOT a fix to improve tracking or lock or make an already working GPS better.
After flashing every modem, fw and kernal version I had completely given up on my galaxy s GPS. It had to be a hardware fault.
Back when I first got it, it was OK but a few months later became useless. This fix is hardware related and takes only minutes to diagnose and fix.
It's also probably more useful for pre-October models (i9000 international) which had this fault.
I do not take credit for finding out the fix. Credit for that goes to member 'allottios' (who heard about it from 'cbdrift') for bringing it to my attention on another forum topic.
The fix is simple. Remove the back cover and to the right of the speaker is the GPS antenna. It is covered by what looks like some sort of soft plastic tape.
Now open a GPS test app and then apply light pressure to the very top of the antenna with your finger. NOT the middle or bottom - that makes it worse.
If, like me your GPS shows instant improvement then you have just worked out your problem.
Simply attach a small piece of double sided tape or similar to the top of the antenna so that when you put the back cover on again their is pressure on that spot.
Hope you get the same results I did.
Edit: PICS ADDED: 1ST PIC - AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, YOU CAN SEE A WHITE STRIP WHICH IS THE DOUBLE-SIDED TAPE I ATTACHED TO THE TOP OF THE GPS ANTENNA. I DID NOT PEEL THE TOP LAYER FROM THE TAPE SO IT WOULDN'T STICK TO THE BACK COVER.
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Edit (03/05) - If this fix doesn't help, you may also want to try out another fix posted by 'stockie78' (post 209).
There is also a link below for more detail, including pics for this fix.
It is not as simple as the above fix and it involves removing the housing. I have not tried / tested this myself and am not responsible if you break your phone.
"stockie78
Unfortunately the g-spot trick did not work for me, so I decided to look a little closer and removed the plastic housing.
Another guy installed on the metal thingys there a cable and I did some test, too. Again no improvement with different cables and lengths.
But while fiddling around with the metal connector I thought maybe lifting it could help and indeed this was the trick for me. Improved my gps dramatically!
So instead of something pushing the antenna tighter, the metal connector now pushes harder and improves the signal quality.
Maybe a solution for some of you too..."
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
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I can confirm that this works for me! Got a lock in two seconds and the arrow followed my path perfectly while I was on the bus, a feat that seemed impossible before! Thanks a million!
If I let go of the antenna the gps loses it signal straight away..
Seriously this deserves a bump! Got a lock on 12 Satellites(!) when putting pressure on the top of the antenna and lost it as soon as I let go.
I`m seriously impressed. Tested on Sygic Aura, iGo and CoPilot and they localyze me immediatly !!!! THANKS A LOT !!!!!
Tried on my SGS and can't honestly see and difference
I did something similar a while back by taking the phone appart to access the interior parts of the phone. I then bent the connector for the GPS up so that more pressure would be applied. It worked great at first then started to get worse after some time. I'm guessing this is because the connector reverted back to its original position (kind of like an elastic).
I suppose this is a similar trick, but instead of applying more pressure from the connector, it does it from the cover. I'll try to get hold of some tape to try this.
By the way I have a Galaxy S from July, and GPS sucks badly on mine.
Need detailed pictures!
Hope it works!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
My jam just dropped. I just got gps lock within seconds... in my living room, where I had occasionally one sat in sight.
Just applied a small piece of that blue sticky stuff on the very top of the gps antenna and voilà. Cover on and lock is a go go.
Thanks for sharing this
nice one! locked 12 sats after 5 secs!
so a small tape should do the trick eh?
Getting a lock as soon as I start GPS Test! No more jumping around in Google Maps either! This is THE best fix for the SGS yet! Finally I'll be able to use my phone as my primary GPS navigator!
Is it possible for someone to post picture of area that needs to be pushed! Thanks!!!
Toss3 said:
Getting a lock as soon as I start GPS Test! No more jumping around in Google Maps either! This is THE best fix for the SGS yet! Finally I'll be able to use my phone as my primary GPS navigator!
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same here too, wtf if i knew that before ... i would not have so many gray hairs
thanks for sharing
p.s.: connection stays good without any further pressure here, put the cover on again, gps still great
I can't believe this all these months, kernels modem and all kind of fixes and the solution is a duct tape, wow!
Thanks works for me!
Asterix040 said:
Is it possible for someone to post picture of area that needs to be pushed! Thanks!!!
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You should see an elongated rectangle shape on the rightmost part of your phone after removing the back cover(just to the right of your speaker and sim card) - just apply some pressure on the top part(for me it takes a fair bit for it to work) and voila you're done. I'll try to post pics soon!
Second pic taken while indoors on a cloudy day!
Twinsis said:
I can't believe this all these months, kernels modem and all kind of fixes and the solution is a duck tape, wow!
Thanks works for me!
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Not Duck. Duct, like air duct ; )
Toss3 said:
You should see an elongated rectangle shape on the rightmost part of your phone after removing the back cover(just to the right of your speaker and sim card) - just apply some pressure on the top part(for me it takes a fair bit for it to work) and voila you're done. I'll try to post pics soon!
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That would be most appriciated. I'am visual person!
This actually works!!! I bought the galaxy s back in july and the last few months I have been unable to get a gps fix no matter what I tried! After reading this thread I went outside and pushed the top of the antenna. In a few seconds i got 5 meter accuracy and 8 satellites in use! Now I have to find a way to keep the antenna pressed! Thanks a million for the tip!
Samsung should buy you more than one beer!
How much money did they spent to fix that issue?
Thanks man!
This must be the sweet spot?
Edit: ops, to late ; )
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Well guys, I would like to try it, but my display seems to stop working as I remove the back cover?! Anyone has same issue? What could be wrong?
With backplate cover on, everything works just fine, but without....black screen. Although that phone seems to be responding
Hello, I ve a BIG problem with my HTC Leo (HD2). I bought it 2 days ago from second-hand. It has windows mobile 6,5. I tried login to 'marketplace' from wi fi but it doesnt work. I ve got 3 notebook in my house and PSP and there is connection with Wi Fi with all this stuff.At last HTC catched signal when I turned back HTC to antenna which was 30 cm from mobile. I losed signal when I moved HTC. I changed RADIO (from XX.XX.51.XX to XX.XX.50.XX) and ROM and installed Android SD/inROM. I changed BUILD many times and problems always was the same - no signal. Now I have STOCK HTC BUILD
OS version 5.2.21869
ROM version 1.48.479.1 WWE
RADIO version 2.05.51.05_2
This problem is still appearing. Please help me because i dont know what I should to do.
PS. Im sorry for my english mistakes
S_H_O_O_T
whether nobody knows how solve my problem? Very please help
Sounds likely to be hardware related.
You could try a Task 29 & then a Energy ROM & radio from my Signature & see what happens !
Have you tried to set wifi to best signal performance and seen any improvement ?
I fear use the Task 29 because I fear Brick. Anyway, I can not find "Energy Dinik 23699 Nov24" download. changed the signal for the best performance and conserves battery power and can not see no improvement. Maybe to give up the phone for guarantees?
S_H_O_O_T said:
I fear use the Task 29 because I fear Brick. Anyway, I can not find "Energy Dinik 23699 Nov24" download. changed the signal for the best performance and conserves battery power and can not see no improvement. Maybe to give up the phone for guarantees?
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I think your wifi cable is loose from inside.
I have disassembled and re-assembled my hd2 2 times. one for cleaning the light sensors (coz the hd2 wud sleep during a call and not wake up)
second to fix the power button. some dirt got under the power button. now everything works well..
my point being. each time i disassemble i notice the wifi cable comes off very easily without much effort. but gps cable comes out if you apply enough pressure.
EDIT. i gave a little wrong info. no need to go deep inside the device. when you take out the back cover the wifi cable is just there. so no need to take apart the screen and flex cable.
also. check if you can pair bluetooth with another device. if you cannot pair the bluetooth or cannot find a bluetooth connection then its definately loose wire.
once u watch this video u will know its very easy
http://wmpoweruser.com/video-learn-how-to-disassemble-your-htc-hd2/
but if i open m phone i lose guarantees
does ur device still have warranty?
btw no need to go inside for the flex cable. read my post again. i have edited my information.
there is absolutely no need to go inside the device. when you remove the bottom cover, the wifi cable is visible.
well...then you can try servicing it in an authorized shop.
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The black wifi cable is located where i have marked in RED
ayyu3m said:
The black wifi cable is located where i have marked in RED
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i dont have this special screwdriver so i cant open phone . i can find another telephon with BT only when telepfon is nearly my HD2 (10 cm)
S_H_O_O_T said:
i dont have this special screwdriver so i cant open phone . i can find another telephon with BT only when telepfon is nearly my HD2 (10 cm)
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means its the wifi cable. (btw the wifi and bluetooth cable are the same)
since u dont have the tools. u might wana send it off for service or anyone else who is capable of.
ok. write yet what exactly I have to do with the cable after opening the phone?
there will be little socket on the wire on both sides. and the plug will be on the board.
when i say socket and plug...its actually very small.
so just push it place. whichever side is loose that is. remember. its the black cable. dont play with the white cable...which is gps cable.
here is the image of such a cable. its called coaxial cable.
the cable has the female connector and the male connectors is on board on either sides. one is up and the other is on main board (down)
and here are the male connectors marked in RED.
take notice of the orange area i have marked. BE CAREFUL that you dont accidently press on this area. the gold metal clip wil break very easily. this is the actual wifi / bluetooh antennae contacts to the cover.
Do I understand? Simply plug will put more strongly into the slot and should be good to catch WiFi coverage? And if that's not enough, and still will not log in correctly wifi what I must do. I want to know now to not ride to the commission sale after 1000 times
"dzizys .... za co , panie za co... "
YEP. last night only collins521 was having the same problem. after he reconnected the cable his wifi is working in full strength.
see here what he had to say.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140737
ayyu3m,
VERY helpful posts regarding the WiFi problems--especially excellent with the informative photos. On a semi-related note, I've just developed severe reception (regular signal, not wifi) problems on a year-and-a-half old HD2. Signal quality has abruptly plunged recently, and after running exhaustive tests I think I can rule out any and all software/firmware related causes. A hard drop into the street while getting out of my car last month might be the culprit...
Anyway, getting to the point: Since the phone is no longer under warranty, and in similar fashion to your troubleshooting advice above, is there anything I can check in there which could be causing the poor signal reception, like the regular antenna coming "loose" over time or due to a hard knock (or two)? I can't tell from the diagrams you posted, and since I've never opened the HD2 I don't even know where the antenna is located or if it's even accessible for examination without totally dismantling the phone. Any advice you can give me? It would be greatly appreciated.
If not, perhaps I will start a separate thread (and I don't mean to hijack this one), but with the great shots of the HD2 innards along with your clear explanations, I couldn't resist seeing if you had a similar 'how-to' regarding the main antenna.
This thread is only interesting for technical gifted people, because you can brick your device !!!
I would like to share a GPS Antenna Hardware Hack i found here "http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/forum/thread/435065/HTC-Desire-HD-Hast-du-GPS-Probleme-mit-deinem-DHD"into the internet some time ago.
I tryed allot of fixing apps and software modifications but nothing works realy good for daily work with gps so i started to soldering a cable (0,8mm) to the GPS Antenna contacts (have a look to the picture)
after the assembly and a new start I had after 10sec sat-fix from 5-6 satellites in the room!!!
Outside I have sat-fix within 2 sec
Here some steps how to do, but be carefull you will lose the warranty of your device
1. open the device like in the youtube video described (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qm_z65LA8k)
2. solder a cable to the antenna contacts like the picture shows
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3. assembly the device ... reboot and have fun
Big THX goes to pooganes for sharing his idea on Andropit
ROM: CoreDroid DHD V8.2 RC8
Phone: HTC Desire HD
Android Version: Android 2.3.4
Build No: 1.45.401.2
Sense Version: 3.0
Kernel: 2.6.35.14 - Lord Clockan V4 CFS (with Killersloth UV Scripts)
Radio: 12.62.60.27U_26.13.04.19_M
So phones don't really have an antenna?
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ceyo14 said:
So phones don't really have an antenna?
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of cause it had a antenna, but the oryginal antenna doesnt works realy good
i had no gps fix without my cable here and after soldering the cable i had a satfix within 2 seconds outside
Great mod!
Yep, GPS is probably the biggest problem in the DHD.
In my case, I usually get fast fixes in GPS Status, but then CoPilot or Sygic take forever to pick up the signal
The solution seems to leave GPS Status opened in the background and then opening the gps program.
Other times, rarely though, not even GPS Status can get sat fixes.
I'll be trying other radio versions. But it's annoying stuff.
Sadly, I'm not very good with soldering.
joooe said:
Great mod!
Yep, GPS is probably the biggest problem in the DHD.
In my case, I usually get fast fixes in GPS Status, but then CoPilot or Sygic take forever to pick up the signal
The solution seems to leave GPS Status opened in the background and then opening the gps program.
Other times, rarely though, not even GPS Status can get sat fixes.
I'll be trying other radio versions. But it's annoying stuff.
Sadly, I'm not very good with soldering.
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with my hardwarehack u can delete faster fix and every other gps fix apps, i tested something around 10 fix aps and mods but nothing works realy good for me.
after soldering the cable to the device it works like my garmin gps system
and hey u dont need to be a soldering good, have a look to the contacts and think about it
If I could find a way of isolating only the pins while soldering, that would protect the motherboard from any mistake I make. Like a piece of aluminum foil with two little holes in it or something.
Hmmmm... Might try that.
Thanks!
By the way, what kind of cable did you use? Anything special?
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If I could find a way of isolating only the pins while soldering, that would protect the motherboard from any mistake I make. Like a piece of aluminum foil with two little holes in it or something.
Hmmmm... Might try that.
Thanks!
By the way, what kind of cable did you use? Anything special?
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nothing special , i used 0,8mm copper cable that i had from an old headset
Hi, I had the idea of this set several months ago. It works fine but the signal quality is not as good as an original antenna that works well.
After 2 months of use, I bought a new GPS antenna DHD and I withdrew my cord.
The signal with the original HTC antenna is better (available on Ebay).
My Fr Tutorial (april 2011)
thats a nice mod, but really dangerous for non technichal used people.
but really interessting!!
Ok, tried this yesterday.
No soldering though, as I was scared to ruin the phone.
Grabbed a 3 cm cable from a 12v car leds and just hooked them up to the 2 pins, just twisting a little so they don't come off.
At first the results where not much different. Opened it again, rewired them and voilá.
It's like magic. Just got close to my window and bang!, less then 5 seconds.
I even wiped the phone and installed the rom again and still works!
By the way, I looked at the contacts of the cover itself and tried to rub a little bit with a screwdriver to remove possible rust. Bad news.
Most certainly, the gps problem lies with these contacts. They are too thin!
When I tried to rub a little, I started to see the plastic underneath!!!
So, maybe, the little dark dots we see in them are just the plastic showing up due to use. That's why gps doesn't work as it should.
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Ok, tried this yesterday.
No soldering though, as I was scared to ruin the phone.
Grabbed a 3 cm cable from a 12v car leds and just hooked them up to the 2 pins, just twisting a little so they don't come off.
At first the results where not much different. Opened it again, rewired them and voilá.
It's like magic. Just got close to my window and bang!, less then 5 seconds.
I even wiped the phone and installed the rom again and still works!
By the way, I looked at the contacts of the cover itself and tried to rub a little bit with a screwdriver to remove possible rust. Bad news.
Most certainly, the gps problem lies with these contacts. They are too thin!
When I tried to rub a little, I started to see the plastic underneath!!!
So, maybe, the little dark dots we see in them are just the plastic showing up due to use. That's why gps doesn't work as it should.
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The GPS chip will store satellite location data (in itself) even through a ROM wipe, afaik. So once you get a fix once, it will usually be much faster to lock thereafter (for a day or two, in the same location). You can use GPS Status to wipe the GPS chip's data to get a true cold fixes for testing.
I don't remember if I wiped the gps data with Gps Status.
Going to try it now.
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Reseted the A-GPS data, didn't even dowloaded an updated one (my monthly data plan is over for this month) and I can confirm that the lock showed up in less than 10 secs, both in GPS Status and CoPilot.
I'm indoors, on the second floor, with big windows. Phone was left against the window glass.
Brilliant stuff.
joooe said:
I don't remember if I wiped the gps data with Gps Status.
Going to try it now.
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Reseted the A-GPS data, didn't even dowloaded an updated one (my monthly data plan is over for this month) and I can confirm that the lock showed up in less than 10 secs, both in GPS Status and CoPilot.
I'm indoors, on the second floor, with big windows. Phone was left against the window glass.
Brilliant stuff.
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Congratulation
Damn, your too late
Took my phone apart a few weeks ago to pimp it
But don't want to take that thing of again because it's a pain in the ass.
Overloaded said:
Damn, your too late
Took my phone apart a few weeks ago to pimp it
But don't want to take that thing of again because it's a pain in the ass.
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Not really. Use a small customized tool, slightly bent at the tip and insert it carefully through the battery compartment, aiming at the cover. Just a little effort will do. The cover will pop up sligthly, just enough for you to put your nail in it.
Wonder how easy it would be to get 2 of the small ipex connectors and make a small cable yourself?
would be a lot safer then soldering it...
Firstly this "hack" takes longer than 2 seconds...
Secondly a large majority of GPS reception issues in DHD are related to bad contact between phone and antenna.
So check this connection before voiding your warrenty.
otherwise thanks for the info.
so i tried this, and i had to solder the contacts on the antena to have contact with wire and little doohickey thing that pops out of the motherboard, it works better but its not that big of a difference sure i get 3 more satellite locks, unless you guys are using a patch, which i don't know about, plus sometimes it takes more than 10 second to find satellite, are you guys using a patch??
Big thanks. My GPS works again and faster than ever !
This is really handy as I have bent my contacts up so much now that they have snapped through weakness, which means I get NO signal at all. I was thinking about trying to replace them with small springs or something a bit clever like that, but this idea is even better!
Thanks for the idea
My DHD GPS contacts were broken when I tried to improve GPS function. So I used an electric wire( or any metalic wire) for antenna. I connected it to the broken position. And I made a hole over the flash cover. I made about 3 ~ 4 cm long wire come out of the hole. It works very well but ugly. Wire is flexible, you can hide it inside a jelly case, and you can take it out when necessary
Acutually no need to contact two points. Only one contact near to camera is needed. Here are some pictures instead of my poor english
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can you post more photos of the mod? I'm interested...
My another photos
You can use any conductive metalic wire for antenna.
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Ugly indeed! :-\
Maybe you can mod that retractable telescopic old-style radio antenna thing on the phone casing. It'll give a retro look to the phone
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Ugly indeed! :-\
Maybe you can mod that retractable telescopic old-style radio antenna thing on the phone casing. It'll give a retro look to the phone
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I have hoped so. And some manufacturer might make a special flash cover capable of enhancing GPS performance.
TO the OP: How broken are the contacts? I also had GPS issues, then I read somewhere that you can drop on a ball of solder to fix this. Basically, the thickness of the solder ball forces contact with the antenna.
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trekkie0927 said:
TO the OP: How broken are the contacts? I also had GPS issues, then I read somewhere that you can drop on a ball of solder to fix this. Basically, the thickness of the solder ball forces contact with the antenna.
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First I soldered them, but overheated to destroy the point on the cover So I created another solution. Anyway this works well. Somebody said the length of wire would be best if 9.5 cm because it fits the frequency of GPS signal. But I think it's too long to carry in my pocket. He suggested another length, 4.75cm ( 1/2 of 9.5 cm ).
What Watt soldering iron did you use?
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Why would you do something as ugly as this mod to your phone when you could at least hide the wire inside? Not to mention this mod has been posted and around for awhile. This is old news. And whoever told you 9.5cm or 4.7cm for antenna was pulling your leg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318892
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Why would you do something as ugly as this mod to your phone when you could at least hide the wire inside? Not to mention this mod has been posted and around for awhile. This is old news. And whoever told you 9.5cm or 4.7cm for antenna was pulling your leg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318892
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Well 4.7cm is the correct size for a quarter wave antenna. So that is correct.
GPS Accuracy 1 meter!
Yesterday on a moving( 88 km/h ) car.
I used about 5 cm long cable for GPS antenna replacement.
Do you have pictures of the inside connection to the GPS module ??
The inside connection to the GPS module.
I extracted a thin cable from a USB cable( including some thin cables inside).
I tied the cable to fix it tightly on the flash cover. And I made a hole over the cover.
The flash photo uploaded is an old one. I broke several covers : (
You can connect it to only single contact. But I think connecting two contacts would be better.
The cable is very thin, so you can hide it inside a jelly case. In my case, eiven if it is hidden inside, GPS signal can be detected( but accuracy is low then ).
My current cass with the GPS anttena.
It's a jelly case. I made a hole on the upper side of the case. Not very ugly, I think.
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Hey guy's,
Here is an easy fix download GPS status from market touch the menu button and select tools and select manage aGPS settings reset the data and select download restart your phone it worked for me got around 5 satellites in 5 seconds
But any software tweak is useless if you have connection problem... I tired every software, gps.conf file but eventually i ordered a replacement flash cover/gps antenna from ebay about 10$ with tools.
I don't know about u man but that really worked with my dhd
after using the sensation battery inside my desire hd, i'm curious about such mods, but i hope i don't have to use this one, because it's really ugly
but nice, really nice
jazon7 said:
after using the sensation battery inside my desire hd, i'm curious about such mods, but i hope i don't have to use this one, because it's really ugly
but nice, really nice
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It's very possible to put the wire inside the antenna cover and get almost the same performance with no external sign of modification.
True. there are different ways of hiding the antenna. You'd only loose maybe 3-8m of accuracy, but it's better then having a wire sticking out.