Tom Tom Sat Nav. - P3470 General

I have never owned 1 of these devices but I had to create a post due to the taxi I got home tonight from town. The taxi driver had one running Tom Tom as his faithful directional assistant. It's nice to see a legacy device still in regular use if not as a phone but as a sat nav. It's something I had to share and something which may go unseen since there have been few posts in months but hey there you go.

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things you can do with GPS?

just wanna ask you guys what you can do with a GPS and yr XDA? thanks..
anything you can do on any other gps pda package
yea i mean like what? the only clear thing for me is the navigation..
TomTom3 for route navigation on long journeys
MemoryMap for Ordinance survey maps when I go walking
Seamful eventually for when me and my one other gadget loving friend get bored (Not released yet )

Garmin XT versus TomTom - Why is Garmin Slow to track location?

Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???
cloves said:
Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???
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I believe this has to do with the nature of the software drivers and the way they interact with the hardware of the phone. It is something that may be different from phone to phone.
Ahhh darn thats a shame I am running a mogul. What I like about Garmin is the fact that it has gas prices and traffic for free unlike TomTom. Anyone else experiencing the same issue?
seems to work fine for me, but I use it with the bluecharts maps and not any street maps.
Hmm well I just wanted to post a follow up not sure if this will help since I haven't tried on the streets yet. I went into the settings and by default Garmin had selected "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" which worked for me but again I saw a lag while driving around and frequent redrawing of where I was relative to the map.
So now I just went back to the settings and hit "disable" which then brought up a list "Use Bluetooth GPS" "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" and "Use Serial GPS". I then selected "Use Serial GPS" and selected COM4:COM4. I had to do this a couple of times the software would scan but not let me keep COM4 but after a few tries it found COM4. I don't know if this will make everything faster but I will keep everyone posted.
Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.
cloves said:
Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.
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How slow is slow? I use Garmin now, and used to use Tomtom, and while it might seem that the arrow doesn't move quite as often, it still seems to be doing what it's supposed to. Is the screen not updating as often?
I have both on my Mogul -- I just updated the Garmin with the 2008 maps and tested it the other day on a 2 hour trip - it was dead on but I did use a blue tooth GPS antenna Holux 240Slim instead of the built in GPS -- I find the built in is dependent on a data connection which I will lose when I go out of area.
I noticed the Garmin was within a few feet of being dead on -- see an exit and there it was on the map - including the talking parts when I was told to exit right, etc
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I've used both and I have found that XT is slightly slower in its frame rate then TOMTOM. However, I have been a long time GPS user and LOVE the fact that I can now load all of my topograhical and marine maps to my P4000! The detail and accuracy of XT makes TOMTOM maps look like something off Dora the explorer. TOMTOM didn't even have roads drawn in for my home town. It was just a peininsula into water. On XT you even see the ATV paths that follow the coast! With the topo maps you can pick a lake, hike to it and fish your brains out! XT takes it off road. Tomtom is of no use in that department. Its a hikers dream: music, communications, nav, camera and more in one small device. To bad the P4000 isn't waterproof. My Garmin Rino must be feeling left out....
you might want to check which driver you are using... I'm on 42020... I know I had problems with 42030 (resetting my clock and what not) and heard 42040 had issues to.. just a thought...
i believe all gps lag one second behind real time. tomtom is the only software that predict 1/2 and 1 second ahead.
btw, does anybody know how to limit garmin xt auto zoom? sometime it zoom out way too much.
you can turn off auto zoom but you can't "control" it.. the default is to zoom out to show next turn... I just keep it turned off...

all suggestions welcome, REF tomtom application while on a motorbike

hi all,
have just recently got tom tom up and running on my blackstone,
have a few questions as no doubt they can be resloved using applications and configurations in one way or another,
i will be using this feature on my motorbike as i cant stand driving cars
and due to this have encountered a few issues.
as i cant see the screen as the phone is in my pocket is there any way i can disable the backlight and lock the touch screen/ hard buttons and still have the tom tom software running?
i will have a head set on in my helmet so all i need is the voice directions from the software,
also, can i block all incoming calls?
i suppose i could just switch it to divert prior to getting on my bike.
last question,
when first installing the tom tom software i went outside the house to see if it worked while on foot, and the GPS reception was perfect...
i then went in installed some 3rd party route planning software on my PC to test routes and all of a sudden the gps signal is awful, it keeps dropping out. will only connect for a few seconds then drop again.
is there any thing i can do or install to improve gps performance?

[DISCUSSION] Changes to the SATNAV market (TOMTOM be scared!!)

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As some people may have heard (i only found out today!!!)
Nokia have made their OVI MAPS voice navigation element completely free (it needed a subscription before, plus obviously a symbian phone)!!!
With both that and Google Navigator in the U.S. causing waves to the SATNAV market.. am I (and other NON-US WinMO users) going to get a free alternative?
I think the big players such as Garmin/TOMTOM/Co-Pilot etc... should be quaking in their boots or.... offer a free alternative as well, food for thought me thinks...
Any thoughts people?
I don't know how the Nokia software works but have you tried using Google Maps without a signal? Unless you have locally stored maps any navigation software is only as good as your network connection.
The nokia sat nav IS locally stored therefore making it even more useful than the Andriod 2.1 sat nav.
Dedicated satnav makers are screwed, but also people like Copilot with their poor Customer support and sloooooooow release of feature like TTS serriously Im still waiting
If you could get the same satnav software that Nokia supplies, but on a WM device I would literally be laughing! My N95 was the first phone I used for satnav, and it was hands down THE best satnav I've ever had. I admit, I've only used a couple of versions of TomTom and 1 version of CoPilot since then, but it blew them out of the water.
Surely getting it free almost makes it worthwhile getting a Nokia instead of a fully-fledged satnav device?
There will always (well, for a good while yet) be a market for dedicated GPS devices, especially the outdoor/off road ones. I have a Garmin GPSMap 60CSx, and whilst the screen is fairly small, the map scrolling is a little slugish, and the device is 4 times thicker than my HD2, I just can't ever see myself atop a mountain in a howling gale exposing my HD2 to the weather and taking my glove off to input the next geocache location, and nor can I see it mounted on my handlebars as I hurtle out of control down a rocky footpath. Nor can I see the boating fraternity giving up their multi thousand pound fishfinder/bluechart navigators for a tiny handheld phone.
I agree that yes, all bets are off for in car sat nav now that even simple google maps can be used as a sat nav, albeit without voice, and other softwares are becoming free, but i'll wager Messrs Garmin and TomTom aren't quite at the shotgun in the mouth stage of panic just yet.
The GPS market isn't just road satnav, that is just the popular mass market arm of the business, and I can tell you from experience (I sell Garmin) that the profit from the in car stuff is negligable in comparison to the aero and sea navigation stuff.

New Treo Pro thoughts and Tom tom question

I have been using windows mobile devices now for about 5 years,my first phone was an mda compact III which was excellent.next up was the Mda Compact 5 which also is a very capable device, might I ad these 2 devices were brilliant with the sat nav never missed a beat allways having plenty of satalites ,my main reason for having these windows mobile devices is all in one phone and sat nav as I am a driver and sat nav is a MUST .I allways have the latest version of Tom Tom navigator installed on my phone. This is when I started to get fed up with touchscreen phones as they can be so annoying with wrong finger scrolling and such likes, I decided I now need a device with physical keys.
This were my search for qwerty keyboard phone began,firstly I bought the Samsung i780 which on the face of it was a fantastic device it was solid,fast ,However the gps was just awfull I loaded up my tom tom but I tried in vein to install endless apps like gps test /gps gate,etc etc and just could not get it to work right,
Next up was the I-mate 8502 again another nice device but 10 -15 resets a day all got too much and that went also.
So here I am with the Palm Treo Pro ,managed to get a nice example from Ebay for £70,really nice device loads my tomtom 7 with 850 maps on no problem,really likin the phone ,I think I have finally found a phone that will suit all my needs ,spb mobile shell to get away from the home screen and I`m away. First day using the Phone with the tomtom on and the the phone freezes on me twice ,soft reset sorts it out .,I have read endless amounts on this since then with no conclusive remedy.IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM or is this fine phone going to be a non starter,I will be so disapointed as i really enjoy using this device,all help or comments will be greatly received.
Thanks in advance.
well if you have a data plan, i highly recommend getting google maps. otherwise you could try bing. both are very good applications and save you a lot of space. sorry im not familiar with tom tom, but i do know that there is not too much ram on the treo. if you close all your other applications in the background, you might get it to work then =]
Thanks for your reply .Think I have found a remedy to the tomtom freezing daily,I changed the baud rate from 4800 to 9600 and so far no more freezing and losing sats,only been 2 days but no more hang ups.
delta 1646 said:
Thanks for your reply .Think I have found a remedy to the tomtom freezing daily,I changed the baud rate from 4800 to 9600 and so far no more freezing and losing sats,only been 2 days but no more hang ups.
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Hi, if u don't mind shelling out some more money i would recommend u try Garmin's navigation software. I've been using it almost daily for about 6 months with fast gps detection rate, etc, and it has never frozen up on me. and as computerguy pointed out, it works best if other applications in d background are exited.
P.S. I'm using a custom ROM though.
I'd second the Garmin software. Used to run the TomTom software on mine and had nothing but troubles. It would either freeze up or just would lose the GPS signals constantly. Garmin might not be as nice to use but its rock solid in comparison.
I agree about TomTom freezing. I don't have it as often as you do but I do have occasions where it seems to lose all track of where it is.
I have switched to Sygic MM10 and it's brilliant. It uses the same maps as TomTom but has better graphics and is rock solid

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