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Best Map Program OR GPS?

Does anyone know of the best mapping software that i can use while on the road, so I don't have to connect to the internet or gprs.
Also is the cingular 8125 GPS compatible, what service does it use?
Thanks guys,
JW

No onboard GPS...
As far as an installed app I use PocketStreets.
If I have Inet Access I just use Google www.google.com/gmm/

i use copilot 6 for ppc for onroad satnav and memorymap for off road gps guidance
both require a gps reciever which you are best off getting as a bluetooth one.
but im in the UK, might not be the best options for your country

i use iguidance by inav. Did a lot of research on bluetooth recievers as well and settled on the Globalsat BT 338. (Sirf III)
The mapping software is excellent and accurate. I also looked at Copilot but it was $170 instead of $100 for iguidance. Also, it could use a bit more processing power. The inav software is one of the smallest footprint gps software but still very full featured.
I'm very happy with it.

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No onboard GPS...
As far as an installed app I use PocketStreets.
If I have Inet Access I just use Google www.google.com/gmm/
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isn't there a program that I can download that install maps by state or the USA, because i never know when I'll need it. I don't want to just search small maps using pocketstreets...

i have a program, called GIS RUssa. it is very handy, but expensive. may be someone has a keygen for it?

http://nanika.net/metro - it`s a software that features almost any city in the world giving complete direction on how to reach from Street A to Building Z. Try it out. It`s free
Regards,
NRGY

unfortunately that metro prog is only for the bus system but is there another program out there that actually does from point a to point b like mapquest or something like that

I agree with IdeaDirect that the iNav iGuidance software is a winner. I have the Belkin variant of this software with a Belkin GPS (rebadged Fortuna Clip-on), but I haven't installed the software on the MDA yet. It has been installed on my Ipaq h2215 for two years and works very well. This software is rebadged by many resellers, including iNav, PrymeNav, and is used in numerous automotive applications.
But the version I have (1.1) is supposedly not compatible with WM5, according to iNav anyway, and reportedly only 2.1.3 or higher will work. When I approached iNav they suggested waiting until late June or early July, as a new version (v3) will be introduced. Since there is a 30-day window for free upgrades, buying now would require a paid upgrade to v3. This is the route I am going to take, as I can do without the GPS for six more weeks.

I agree with IdeaDirect that the iNav iGuidance software is a winner. I have the Belkin variant of this software with a Belkin GPS (rebadged Fortuna Clip-on), but I haven't installed the software on the MDA yet. It has been installed on my Ipaq h2215 for two years and works very well. This software is rebadged by many resellers, including iNav, PrymeNav, and is used in numerous automotive applications.
But the version I have (1.1) is supposedly not compatible with WM5, according to iNav anyway, and reportedly only 2.1.3 or higher will work. When I approached iNav they suggested waiting until late June or early July, as a new version (v3) will be introduced. Since there is a 30-day window for free upgrades, buying now would require a paid upgrade to v3. This is the route I am going to take, as I can do without the GPS for six more weeks.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Tom Tom. I've been using it on a Palm device and now just moved over to the MDA Vario and it works great on the Vario. I've only done approx 45,000 miles using Tom Tom over the last 19 months, and it has not once got me lost. To me it has been worth every penny. I use a Holux GPSlim 236 BT receiver which is excellent.

Im new to this gps things. So i need some type of bluetooth receiver to hook up to my wizard? Also when I get this software and device do I need to pay for satellite fees or anythign or is this map stuff free when I make the initial purchase?
Thanks
JW

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Im new to this gps things. So i need some type of bluetooth receiver to hook up to my wizard? Also when I get this software and device do I need to pay for satellite fees or anythign or is this map stuff free when I make the initial purchase?
Thanks
JW
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Yes, you need a Bluetooth GPS receiver. One of the best is Holux GPSlim236 or Globalstat BT338. I have the Holux & can highly recommend it.
If you buy for example Tom Tom, which again I highly recommend, you get the maps as well, but depending on the package, you can buy it with Tom Tom's Bluetooth receiver which is also very good.
There are no other fees. Unless you want to upgrade your maps at a later date. No map from ANY sat nav supplier will ever be 100% accurate.
The wizard does not work with wired GPS devices. But will work with a bluetooth headset/carkit as well as a bluetooth GPS receiver at the same time.
Take a look at these sites:
www.pocketgpsworld.com
www.tomtom.com

GoldLantern bluetooth GPS
I bought a GoldLantern bluetooth GPS receiver, it came with a download of "free" Mapopolis software - but thats where they get ya - the software is free but the maps definitely are not. However for a hundred bucks the maps seem to be pretty detailed. I have been using the demo version of the maps that expire after some number of days because my travel habits simply aren't that repetitive but I may eventually buy the subscription to all the North American maps.
Costs? Well, the MDA naturally which was about $370 with AZ taxes. $149 for the GPS receiver at Fry's Electronics (i paid too much but had to have it "now"). about $70 for a mini-SD 1GB card (also too much but had to have it "now") to store the maps. I haven't bought the maps yet and the GPS receiver is not "tied" to the application you use to navigate, I still might do TomTom but actually sorta like Mapopolis...
Performance is reasonably good provided Mapopolis is the only thing running. It takes the GPS receiver a minute or two to get a fix on your position.
I've used it in Phoenix, San Diego/Orange/LA counties in CA, and Seattle. In Phoenix its more of a convenience than anything else since I live here and don't necessarily need a GPS to navigate all the time, but it made business travel an absolute joy. No more trying to decipher the under-detailed rent-a-car map they give you along with the blank look when you ask if they know where your nationally known name brand hotel is.
In Seattle it was an absolute joy to use, I went on citysearch and figured out what kind of food I was going to eat that evening without any regard to navigational concerns. I had the mapping layers for King and Pierce counties loaded and Mapopolis even "knew" the names of some non-chain locally owned places that I'd been to in the past but hadn't a clue how to get to. The directions were accurate although the machine pronunciation of some of the street names was a little hilarious and it told me about turns in a timely fashion.
In Southern California I bumped into some limitations, probably becaue my usage pattern was a little different on those trips. I had LA/OC/SD counties loaded in memory the whole time so that could also have impacted performance and I was doing enough driving that I was also using my XM Roady2 for music and traffic updates. The XM (or Sirius) might be a relevant factor because the frequency band used by XM/Sirius is fairly close to Bluetooth, or 802.11b for that matter. All I can say is this: listening to XM and occasionally talking on my bluetooth headset at the same time, Mapopolis occasionally did NOT keep up with turns. At one point along I-5 south of San Diego it got confused and thought I was on surface streets which made for some interesting, if rapid, verbal directions from it. I think the factor was more the use of the bluetooth headset at the same time because once i ended the phone conversation mapopolis perked right back up performance-wise.
The battery life running mapopolis and bluetooth constantly - as well as the constant fascination with wanting to see my speed and direction causing the screen backlight to be on, caused the battery to drain very quickly - like 3 hours of usage had the battery almost 75 percent drained.
It's a good combination, but for the less technically inclined (and god help someone non-techie who buys a t-mobile mda...) the $500 garmin dashboard wart will do the GPS bit equally well without a steep learning curve. The learning curve to get this set up was near vertical but well worth it if you have the patience to fiddle with it. I.E. if you struggle a bit with your MDA, bluetooth GPS is not for you! Its also not something to learn how to use ON a trip, you definitely want to get the hang of it in your own local area before you put your complete trust in it in an unfamiliar place.

I need a GPS system for my Titan, like this one.

This person has like the best ive seen so far does anyone know where i can get this GPS or something similar, please, i have the titan on the new 3.35 rom so any steps i need to follow, let me know, watch the linked video and youll see wat im saying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4

I don't recognize that exact piece of software, but basically any of the commercial ones will do the 3D view and turn by turn instructions like he had. I personally have used IGO and am currently trying TomTom6
I think I sway more towards IGO for a couple of reasons, but I'm trying to give TomTom a fair swing.

Are these GPS programs cracked or did you have to pay for them, and where would i find them?

some, like google maps, are free, others you have to pay for

There are a couple threads on XDA talking about GPS... I've tried most of them and personally, am happiest with Garmin's XT software. The only downside, is it uses a ton of memory with its latest release and will sometimes only run after a soft reset. I like its features for finding nearby gas stations with current prices, current traffic, weather, hotel rates, etc. If you are in Europe, it also has traffic safety cameras. All of these are included for no extra monthly fee (unlike TomTom).
On the other hand, I absolutely love TomTom for its quick page rendering. As you turn, the screen shows you turning smoothly... Garmin is quite jerky and not nearly as smooth as TomTom.
Both of them can plan a route for you quite nicely - both of them do end up giving me different directions from point a to point b, but neither seem to be horrible. Also - TomTom gives you directions in a couple of seconds. Garmin can take 30 seconds and sometimes up to a minute to calculate your route. Not a deal breaker.
I have heard some good things about iGo, but tried it several months ago and stopped using it for some reason - not sure why. I do remember it was nice because it included text to speech.
Google Maps and MS Live Search are both nice, but you need a continuous internet connection to render the maps. The above mentioned programs have the map stored on your storage card... only times it connects to the internet are for traffic updates, etc...
Good luck!

I myself am currently using Garmin Mobile XT. I've been using it for a while, and I love it. I'm on vacation now in North Carolina, and this thing hasn't skipped a beat for me at all. NONE. So I have no complaints.
I am rather curious to try out the newest distro of Tom Tom software when I can get it, and I wouldn't mind checking out Igo just to Give some feedback. I just haven't gotton around to it.

I have used IGuidance 4 and TomTom Nav 6 and Garmin XT
TomTom 6 is, I think, the best because it behaves itself most of the time. Garmin is a memory hog and IGuidance freaks me out because the different voices for the directions and the text to speech.
I like IGuidance's interface. I think v4 is very easy on the eye and the finger. But TT6 is smoother in 3D rendering, but due to lack of hardware acceleration in the Titan, none of them look particularly smooth compared to older HTC devices, or newer ones with proper graphics acceleration.
In terms of maps accuracy, TT6 seems to have the edge in North America and is far superior in Europe.
In Asia, I revert to MapKing as it is the only software with map coverage of any use. But then the MapKing interface is not up to TT6 or IGuidance level.
I like that IGuidance gives text to speech (i.e. "turn right in 100 meters at Oak Street" as opposed the "turn right in 100 meters") but as I mentioned the different voices freak me out a bit. I know there is a hack to make all the voices the same, but it degrades performance noticeably.
Overall TT6 is the best of the non data (google maps, live search) nav softwares for Europe, USA and Australia. Mapking for Asia.
Of the data services, Nav4All is pretty good for turn by turn directions, and Live Search is probably better than Google Maps for simple routing and mapping.

So which GPS would you recomend for me?

Hi,
I should touch wood get my HD this week and will want some good gps software on it.
Now I have been looking at the following:
IGO8
TomTom
Garmin
I don't mind paying but obviously I want the software to work on the HD. I also need the software to have a good global coverage of mps as there is a high probability next year I could be travelling to a few countries. Which would you recommend and why?

Obviously, I would recomment IGO08.
It is the most user friendly, and has beautiful graphics.
IGO08 has the best map coverage.
tomtom is purely ****.

Yeah I do like the looks of the IGO8. Anyone know when it will be for sale as it says to be announced on Expansys? I know there are other ways of getting it but just curious to when I can buy it/see the price.

I'd like a cheap (preferably free) GPS that doesn't use too much data (250MB, sigh...) - I've looked at Google Mobile Maps but it seems to use a lot?
I only really need it for a very limited area - 2 cities plus London (pref. with underground map!) so don't want to shell out for a complex program. Only going to use it on the train, bus and walking as I don't drive - so a little bit out is fine.
Any suggestions?

If you're going to buy the software then I'd be suspicious of TomTom's licencing system.
My wife bought TomTom6 plus the bluetooth GPS receiver for me as a gift when I had my XDA2 about four years ago. It worked great. However, a few months later when I upgraded my phone I discovered that I couldn't install TT on the new machine (a Universal) because it was already registered to the XDA2. TomTom's licencing conditions are specific about this.
I had no choice but to find a cracked copy of TomTom online and use that, and I've been doing that ever since, despite the fact that I've got a legal copy of the same software on CD. Old versions of the software also refuse to install on more modern machines, even though these machines tend to be backwards-compatible.
I found the situation so objectionable that out of principle now I would refuse to give TomTom any more money. Their software is expensive and so IMHO they should be flexible in allowing us to upgrade our PDAs.
/rant

As of 9-7-10 is CoPilot the only affordable GPS option now for USA Hd2 owners? =(

I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?

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- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
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Uh, just get the Igo8 world version and delete the maps you don't want. Go to your favorite P2P source, get that, and search the threads here for the proper adjustment to the system file.
I installed it today and even used it. The only thing that it doesn't do is speak the street names.

garmin mobile xt is something i would like to get a legitimate copy of, can anyone confirm that the garmin part number 010-10841-00 is the one that will install on windows mobile?
I see there are still a few retailer online with this item in stock

not that i recommend it at all, and it definitely shouldnt be done, it's pretty easy to find cracked software
but that's a terrible thing to do, and i for one have never done it.

As you mention, there are good free ones now like Bing, I would guess the next version of Google Maps, an app called Waze, etc. As you mention though, they all require data.
I haven't tried the paid ones, but the Copilot sure has a much better price than any of the others. I've seen some good reviews of it, including here on XDA. (Do a search for Copilot on XDA.) So, if you want data-free GPS, that might be a good option.
Notice-that $30 price for Copilot is the US version. (I forget if it includes Canada and/or Mexico. You pay extra (with all the commercial PDA apps) for each extra map you buy. So, if you are going somewhere not included in your package, you had better find out how much it would cost extra to buy the map for that country, continent, etc. Or buy the package for that other country, not the US one.
It almost seems that some here are kind of recommending (although not overtly) searching for illegally cracked versions online. I think it a better idea, if Copilot suits your needs, to buy from them. That sends a message to all--that those who price more reasonably, will get more sales. (Whereas if one is thinking-"I'll just steal the product I want", what message does that send? (In fact, the companies that charge a higher price, probably justify it, on the grounds that so many are stealing the product, that they have to charge more to the few who buy, in order to make ends meet.)
ap3604 said:
I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?
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CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.

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CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.
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Sorry I must disagree. I've had in car installations in my vehicles (two) for almost ten years. I've used Toyota and VDO packages and currently have Pioneer and VW satnavs in my vehicles. I tried CoPilot on my HD2 as an experiment six months ago and found it superior to all of these kits.
For long complex journeys I now use my CoPilot with the in car Pioneer or VW satnavs as a back up.
My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money.
By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.

Are we talking strictly WinMo in this discussion? If not, try IGO Motonav for android. I used IGO for windows mobile and have been using Motonav for android. They share .fbl map files.

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Sorry I must disagree. My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money. By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.
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Completely agree! CoPilot 8 is an excellent software. I bought the European maps and use it regularly in the UK. Also used it in France, Portugal, Spain, Slovakia and the Czech Republic without a problem. Over the years I had Tom Tom (stand-alone & in WM phone) and I cannot compare both either on competence or on price. In my opinion, as far as WM software goes, CoPilot is well above the rest.

I have to say I really like Copilot Live 8... I've used iGuidance in the past and also TomTom 7, but when you add price & function "I" think that CP8 is pound-for-pound one of the best sat navs available on the HD2.

You can use Bing navigation. (turn-by-turn)

[Q] Need advice for GPS

Any one can suggest a good incar mount for the TF101 ?
Also is there any app for gps (like tomtom) for the tf101, as i have read there does not seems to have any one made specificaly for the tf101 or any other tablet anyway ?

as i know, there is no gps aplication for the transformer ,because of the rasolution. But you can lnstall a software with the best rasolution, that there is,i think 800x480 and you will see the map only on a part of the screen...
For example i use IGO my way...

I have been re-using my old EEEpc 701 car mount for my Transformer:
http://www.ultimate-netbook.com/inf...h-7-inches-to-13-inches-ultimate-netbook.html
Works great and fits fine.
There are SEVERAL gps software solutions that not only work on the Transformer, but take advantage of the full resolution. I don't know why people think there aren't any for tablets?
The one I use: Copilot Live Premium (Europe). I've been driving all over the South of France and back to Belgium just last week. It's great if you can keep the reflections to a minimum.
Google navigation works great, if you have a portable wireless hotspot (ex: mifi), or if you download the itinerary before going, or if you tether it to your phone. I tried all of these successfully.
OsmAnd+, NavDroyd, will work at full resolution.

Both Sygic and Navigon are optimized(fullscreen) for Honeycomb.

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Navigon
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Navigon is marked as incompatible with the TF101 on the market. Last time I tried it, there was no way to get the menus up on HC. Has there been an update that fixes this?

Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369

For first tests the free Navid might be worth a try. I myself used MapDroid and Google Navigation for first tests.
Because MapDroid only shows your position and has no rooting cababilities, I'm searching for a nice offline navigation app for both my TF and SGS2.
How satisfied are people with NavDroid? Should I invest more?

I've purchased NavDroyd in anticipation of having to travel in several countries in Asia, where my normal GPS navigation software won't work for lack of maps or licenses. I haven't tested it on the road, but I have played around with it from my couch.
There are several problems using Navdroyd, but to its credit, it's the maps that are mostly the problem - not the software. The maps themselves come from the wonderful Openstreet map project, a collaborative wiki style world map that anyone can use and contribute to.
Main problem: in non Western countries, leave the big city centers, and you might as well ask the locals for your way - the maps are sometimes very incomplete. A lot of the data is contributed by individuals that have uploaded their GPS tracks on the site and have themselves typed the street or city names. Again, not NavDroyd's fault.
Osmand, Osmand+, Mapdroyd, Osmdroid and so on - all use the free maps from the Open Street Map project.
Quite frankly, I think I will most likely stick to Google Maps when in remote places. It won't offer navigation, but with the ability to download a 10 km radius map, and having studied the maps and the sites/itineraries I'm going to use, it should be more than enough.

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Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369
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**Sygic does work on the transformer.
I was looking for a GPS app that works well offline, with good route adjustment, and this is the best I've used. NavDroyd took a while to get the maps and then couldn't find a GPS signal, so I moved on and didn't really test the product. Copilot looks good, but the USA map pack was over a gig, and I only wanted one state. It's possible you can choose individual states, but I didn't get far enough to determine this.
Sygic, for me , works perfectly. Can pick which states you want to download. I'm pretty sure they even use TomTom maps. You get two apps, one to download the maps and the GPS app itself. Lots of choices for voices (U.K, Australian, American English's in male or female, as well as many languages). The UI could possibly be better, and in the menus the very bottom of the screen is cut off, but half of the buttons (usually back or okay) still show so there's no problem. By this I mean only the lower portion is cut off, not half are missing, if that makes more sense. The maps are great, though sometimes cluttered with gas stations or other useful landmarks (these can be turned off). During navigation your MPH (or whatever unit you choose) is on screen, with ETA, time until next navigational action (exit, turn, etc.) and even the speed limit. The voice gives warnings usuall at 1 mile prior, 2/3 and then gets almost annoying so you don't miss the turn (probably adjustable?).
I'm probably forgetting some stuff, but this is exactly what I was looking for. Never have to touch it so I just set it in the passenger seat and turn up the volume. Might not be the best out there, but I don't have any complaints so I stopped looking.

michelhuy said:
Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369
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Sygic,Navigon,Copilot all work just fine in full screen(menus and everything) on the Transformer.
I know this because i tried all of them. Do not know about other apps but these work like they should.

I'm interested - how do you install sygic on the TF? Is it the official version?

To be honest, I started just downloading the apps offline after the first two, as I wasn't hopeful and wanted to test them first. I like to tell myself I'll buy the real version, but who knows.
It's possible that it wouldn't allow you to purchase from the market since it's not officially compatible, but I do not know. In any case side loading the newest version is what I did. Not sure if it was a cracked apk or not. Also can't remember if I had to sign up for an account, but downloading maps and everything worked fine after installation (and was free).

karlr30 said:
Also is there any app for gps (like tomtom) for the tf101, as i have read there does not seems to have any one made specificaly for the tf101 or any other tablet anyway ?
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Google Navigation is pretty good. If youre in the car just use the phone as a mobile hot spot. You have a lighter, get a car charger plug for the phone so it doesnt die and use it all of the way.
Im looking forward do doing something of the like while driving up to visit my grandparents in the near future. Road tripping with internet, its the future!