Any one can suggest a good incar mount for the TF101 ?
Also is there any app for gps (like tomtom) for the tf101, as i have read there does not seems to have any one made specificaly for the tf101 or any other tablet anyway ?
as i know, there is no gps aplication for the transformer ,because of the rasolution. But you can lnstall a software with the best rasolution, that there is,i think 800x480 and you will see the map only on a part of the screen...
For example i use IGO my way...
I have been re-using my old EEEpc 701 car mount for my Transformer:
http://www.ultimate-netbook.com/inf...h-7-inches-to-13-inches-ultimate-netbook.html
Works great and fits fine.
There are SEVERAL gps software solutions that not only work on the Transformer, but take advantage of the full resolution. I don't know why people think there aren't any for tablets?
The one I use: Copilot Live Premium (Europe). I've been driving all over the South of France and back to Belgium just last week. It's great if you can keep the reflections to a minimum.
Google navigation works great, if you have a portable wireless hotspot (ex: mifi), or if you download the itinerary before going, or if you tether it to your phone. I tried all of these successfully.
OsmAnd+, NavDroyd, will work at full resolution.
Both Sygic and Navigon are optimized(fullscreen) for Honeycomb.
berbecverde said:
Navigon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Navigon is marked as incompatible with the TF101 on the market. Last time I tried it, there was no way to get the menus up on HC. Has there been an update that fixes this?
Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369
For first tests the free Navid might be worth a try. I myself used MapDroid and Google Navigation for first tests.
Because MapDroid only shows your position and has no rooting cababilities, I'm searching for a nice offline navigation app for both my TF and SGS2.
How satisfied are people with NavDroid? Should I invest more?
I've purchased NavDroyd in anticipation of having to travel in several countries in Asia, where my normal GPS navigation software won't work for lack of maps or licenses. I haven't tested it on the road, but I have played around with it from my couch.
There are several problems using Navdroyd, but to its credit, it's the maps that are mostly the problem - not the software. The maps themselves come from the wonderful Openstreet map project, a collaborative wiki style world map that anyone can use and contribute to.
Main problem: in non Western countries, leave the big city centers, and you might as well ask the locals for your way - the maps are sometimes very incomplete. A lot of the data is contributed by individuals that have uploaded their GPS tracks on the site and have themselves typed the street or city names. Again, not NavDroyd's fault.
Osmand, Osmand+, Mapdroyd, Osmdroid and so on - all use the free maps from the Open Street Map project.
Quite frankly, I think I will most likely stick to Google Maps when in remote places. It won't offer navigation, but with the ability to download a 10 km radius map, and having studied the maps and the sites/itineraries I'm going to use, it should be more than enough.
michelhuy said:
Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
**Sygic does work on the transformer.
I was looking for a GPS app that works well offline, with good route adjustment, and this is the best I've used. NavDroyd took a while to get the maps and then couldn't find a GPS signal, so I moved on and didn't really test the product. Copilot looks good, but the USA map pack was over a gig, and I only wanted one state. It's possible you can choose individual states, but I didn't get far enough to determine this.
Sygic, for me , works perfectly. Can pick which states you want to download. I'm pretty sure they even use TomTom maps. You get two apps, one to download the maps and the GPS app itself. Lots of choices for voices (U.K, Australian, American English's in male or female, as well as many languages). The UI could possibly be better, and in the menus the very bottom of the screen is cut off, but half of the buttons (usually back or okay) still show so there's no problem. By this I mean only the lower portion is cut off, not half are missing, if that makes more sense. The maps are great, though sometimes cluttered with gas stations or other useful landmarks (these can be turned off). During navigation your MPH (or whatever unit you choose) is on screen, with ETA, time until next navigational action (exit, turn, etc.) and even the speed limit. The voice gives warnings usuall at 1 mile prior, 2/3 and then gets almost annoying so you don't miss the turn (probably adjustable?).
I'm probably forgetting some stuff, but this is exactly what I was looking for. Never have to touch it so I just set it in the passenger seat and turn up the volume. Might not be the best out there, but I don't have any complaints so I stopped looking.
michelhuy said:
Sygic is a great product but does NOT work on the transformer - it works only on 2.x. I have it on my phone. Compatible devices: http://www.sygic.com/en/android:compatible-devices
I don't see a single android 3.x device on there.
There was a thread about Navigon a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079369
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sygic,Navigon,Copilot all work just fine in full screen(menus and everything) on the Transformer.
I know this because i tried all of them. Do not know about other apps but these work like they should.
I'm interested - how do you install sygic on the TF? Is it the official version?
To be honest, I started just downloading the apps offline after the first two, as I wasn't hopeful and wanted to test them first. I like to tell myself I'll buy the real version, but who knows.
It's possible that it wouldn't allow you to purchase from the market since it's not officially compatible, but I do not know. In any case side loading the newest version is what I did. Not sure if it was a cracked apk or not. Also can't remember if I had to sign up for an account, but downloading maps and everything worked fine after installation (and was free).
karlr30 said:
Also is there any app for gps (like tomtom) for the tf101, as i have read there does not seems to have any one made specificaly for the tf101 or any other tablet anyway ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Navigation is pretty good. If youre in the car just use the phone as a mobile hot spot. You have a lighter, get a car charger plug for the phone so it doesnt die and use it all of the way.
Im looking forward do doing something of the like while driving up to visit my grandparents in the near future. Road tripping with internet, its the future!
Related
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
TomTom 6
lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used TomTom 5 and now Version 6 with no issues at all. I've seen co-pilot live 6 up and running and I'm very impressed with that too, but TomTom has never let me down before, so I'd recommend that.
i 2nd tomtom navigator 6 (apart from the lockup sometimes when it sarts its great)
I'll give that a shot - thanks much! It's pretty pricey but it looks to be the best out there!
Tomtom 6 seems to do the job.. expensive though, very old maps in some cases, people in the US have been *****ing about it doing silly things.
Here in australia though, no problems so far. Although I'd like a map update to tell it of some local changes..
i am using tomtom5. it's ok, although sometimes it hangs the hermes.
Best GPS software depends a lot on your location; because of it's obvious purpose, the most important things are area coverage and maps quality, then comes the interface, POI management and so on... Tried TomTom Mobile and iGO and stuck with the latest, because the maps are far better and precise (in Romania where I live).
For off-road I use GPSDash, it has all the features some might need + the posibility to create user maps.
Entire USA in 1GB microSD w/ OCN5
Any body tried OnCourse Navigator 5 on their TYTN? I think this GPS software blows TomTom away w/ seamless USA fitting in 1GB microSD. ETA,elevation,speed displayed in 3D mode, map refresh rate of 4fps compared to the usual 1fps with the other usual display-(like time and next street to turn)
I just hope it is compatible with the Tytn...
Try iGo Europe 2006 (http://www.i-go.com/en/products/iGO_2006_SD/screenshots.php). VERY FAST and has less problem than TT. It also has better graphics.
The downside is that the POI listing sucks. If I search for McDonald's around my current location, it'll list those from 100 meters to 50 kilometers! The software enough to know I won't drive that long from my current location just to get a fries.
Well, I got Tomtom6, but my GPS unit that was supposed to be shipped to me today was reported as out of stock - so sounds like I'll be waiting a few more days to try it :/
I use the Garmin Que software with a Garmin GPS10 receiver. Works great. I own the North America maps as well as the Europe maps. Have used them extensively in NA and in the UK - very happy with the combo.
When I researched the options, the above combo was rather cheaper than the TomTom option.
If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator
try mapopolis
mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
I've been using it for a year on my harrier, and now on my 8525. Works pretty well on both.
I use an I-blue gps. sensitivity and reliability is very good, mini-usb charger is non-standard pinout though.
wes
wwwes said:
mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed, however, not unless you already own the software
the software is free to download. you pay for the maps only. to download the app, go to demo maps and the first step is downloading the app. the demo maps are short lived, but full function. I think you can keep downloading them over and over when when they expire.
iGuidance v3.0.1. It is excellent!
Everybody says "tom tom" because it's the most common name. After doing my research I settled on iGuidance and could not be happier. Good luck.
I'll definitely have to look at that too! My GPS unit is backordered... I'm still waiting on it ><
The problem w/ iGuidance is that you cannot fit the entire USA on a 2GB microSD. Map file is 2.5GB
lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi i m using IGO 2006 in Germany and Turkey... its very cool Try it
Elwyn M3100 said:
If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have GPS Tuner. Where do find the best source of maps? I have tried the OS site but once I've deleted all of the surround and extra graphics, you're left with a blurry image. google and multimap down't have sufficient detail for "off road".
This person has like the best ive seen so far does anyone know where i can get this GPS or something similar, please, i have the titan on the new 3.35 rom so any steps i need to follow, let me know, watch the linked video and youll see wat im saying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDXXYuJSWM4
I don't recognize that exact piece of software, but basically any of the commercial ones will do the 3D view and turn by turn instructions like he had. I personally have used IGO and am currently trying TomTom6
I think I sway more towards IGO for a couple of reasons, but I'm trying to give TomTom a fair swing.
Are these GPS programs cracked or did you have to pay for them, and where would i find them?
some, like google maps, are free, others you have to pay for
There are a couple threads on XDA talking about GPS... I've tried most of them and personally, am happiest with Garmin's XT software. The only downside, is it uses a ton of memory with its latest release and will sometimes only run after a soft reset. I like its features for finding nearby gas stations with current prices, current traffic, weather, hotel rates, etc. If you are in Europe, it also has traffic safety cameras. All of these are included for no extra monthly fee (unlike TomTom).
On the other hand, I absolutely love TomTom for its quick page rendering. As you turn, the screen shows you turning smoothly... Garmin is quite jerky and not nearly as smooth as TomTom.
Both of them can plan a route for you quite nicely - both of them do end up giving me different directions from point a to point b, but neither seem to be horrible. Also - TomTom gives you directions in a couple of seconds. Garmin can take 30 seconds and sometimes up to a minute to calculate your route. Not a deal breaker.
I have heard some good things about iGo, but tried it several months ago and stopped using it for some reason - not sure why. I do remember it was nice because it included text to speech.
Google Maps and MS Live Search are both nice, but you need a continuous internet connection to render the maps. The above mentioned programs have the map stored on your storage card... only times it connects to the internet are for traffic updates, etc...
Good luck!
I myself am currently using Garmin Mobile XT. I've been using it for a while, and I love it. I'm on vacation now in North Carolina, and this thing hasn't skipped a beat for me at all. NONE. So I have no complaints.
I am rather curious to try out the newest distro of Tom Tom software when I can get it, and I wouldn't mind checking out Igo just to Give some feedback. I just haven't gotton around to it.
I have used IGuidance 4 and TomTom Nav 6 and Garmin XT
TomTom 6 is, I think, the best because it behaves itself most of the time. Garmin is a memory hog and IGuidance freaks me out because the different voices for the directions and the text to speech.
I like IGuidance's interface. I think v4 is very easy on the eye and the finger. But TT6 is smoother in 3D rendering, but due to lack of hardware acceleration in the Titan, none of them look particularly smooth compared to older HTC devices, or newer ones with proper graphics acceleration.
In terms of maps accuracy, TT6 seems to have the edge in North America and is far superior in Europe.
In Asia, I revert to MapKing as it is the only software with map coverage of any use. But then the MapKing interface is not up to TT6 or IGuidance level.
I like that IGuidance gives text to speech (i.e. "turn right in 100 meters at Oak Street" as opposed the "turn right in 100 meters") but as I mentioned the different voices freak me out a bit. I know there is a hack to make all the voices the same, but it degrades performance noticeably.
Overall TT6 is the best of the non data (google maps, live search) nav softwares for Europe, USA and Australia. Mapking for Asia.
Of the data services, Nav4All is pretty good for turn by turn directions, and Live Search is probably better than Google Maps for simple routing and mapping.
Which version of which GPS software works on the Touch HD ? i used to use the Miomap and IGo8 on the Touch Cruise but cannot get them to work.
Perhaps with a tweak ?
thanks, yves
Just search the forum.
There are threads for iGO8, TomTom and Navigon. All of them work on the HTC Touch HD (with some tweaks).
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723 works without tweaks.
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/
I believe you can get them all working with the right tweaks.
I've used TomTom for years, without any problem. Currently using v7.910 on my Touch HD and it looks nice.
For fun I also downloaded Navigon (there's a two week free trial with full functionality) and with the help of a couple of xml files have it running. Different look and feel to Tom Tom but I like it. Probably worth a look for the two week free trial if nothing else.
Have seen iGo8 and I must say I like the look of it. Have seen a thread with details of a tweak, though that may have been for an earlier release.
Currently waiting for my TomTom services to run out (speed cameras and traffic) and then I may switch. The UI looks fantastic, but have to justify the cost to the missus .....
loadme said:
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.
johnpatcher said:
I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are correct, it works fine. However, occasional GPS drop does happen, and, from what I understand, it happens with all softwares, not just IGO. I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
Thanks
michael_r said:
I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me it was the wrong baud rate. It must be set to 9600. As I was using GPSGate I had to change the baud rate within GPSGate and not in iGO8.
loadme said:
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kinda strange that you are incapable of setting up a navigation software like igo on the Touch HD.
I myself only had to set the resolution and voila, all worked perfectly.
All the so called 'failures' are entirely untrue from my point of view.
Cause they work perfectly ! (yes also shutdown in expert mode), maybe your failure is using the correct settings in the sys.txt file...
Therfore I have to disagree with you completely on the IGO satisfaction scale.
I give it a 9,7 out of 10 (cause it can always be improved).
Tomtom is great and also is IGo in my opinion (havn't tried the rest om my HD).
with regards,
Ikkezelf
I am using Garmin Mobile XT, and it looks and works a treat.......
IGO8, does look good but there seems to be a lot of screen size problems for the HD. I too have tried IGO8 and all the stuffing around to get the correct screen resolution files sent me nuts.
I am using co-pilot 7, working well so far, especially when I remember to switch it from walking mode to car
A quick summary of my experiences with iGo 8, TomTom 7 and Garmin Mobile XT on the HD, in the UK.
iGo 8
Pros:
Has the nicest looking graphics, with terrain elevation and 3D models of major landmarks (and many more buildings too, in major cities) and a good variety of views.
Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
Routing between multiple maps installed.
Cons:
Long startup time.
Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
The voice directions have been misleading when crossing a roundabout over a motorway, telling me to incorrectly take the first exit from a roundabout, when the direction arrow clearly shows the second. I verified by plotting a route on to the motorway that it also said "first exit" for that exit too. Very strange - I haven't seen problems with other roundabouts, yet.
Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
TomTom 7
Pros:
Reasonable across the board.
Cons:
Average default POIs, finding cash machines but not most shops.
Garmin Mobile XT
Pros:
Great default POIs, being able to track down most shops, etc.
Great free online services, such as Google local search, cheapest petrol
prices nearby, weather, traffic reports, flight status and Panoramio.
Being able to install subsets of maps, to reduce space on the device.
Cons:
Very slow graphics engine.
arghness said:
[*]Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
arghness said:
Long startup time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
arghness said:
Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
arghness said:
Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).
johnpatcher said:
I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll take a look, thanks. The normal voices are fine, just not the tts. It could be due to the high quality tts rather than the 11KHz pack.
johnpatcher said:
What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not unusable, it just takes longer than the others. Sometimes I want to quickly look something up. My usage scenario and my opinion of course
johnpatcher said:
That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did say it was my experience in the UK. Also, I think that they do count as negative points against iGo as they make it less useful to me compared to the competition. Giving incorrect voice directions is bad, especially when the visual direction is correct. I'm glad you're happy with it - the graphics engine, buildings and terrain really are good. I'd love to see some online integration like Garmin, especially Google local search, which would make the POIs less of an issue.
Gps sofware in uae
Just for anybody here in UAE ... Sygic Drive 2008 from ORION MIDDLE EAST.. works great on my HD.. and its maps are more updated for the GCC regions.. atleast here in UAE..
My comparison between Garmin mobile XT Vs Mapking R12
hello
yesterday i have chance to fully try out my GPS function on my new HD
This is my findings...
I have expirient using Mapking R12 with my Tytn2 and it is much faster in the term of rerouting if u miss any turn,the accuracy is much better but the graphic is quite "cartoon"... anyway it is quite simple to use and straight forward....
With garmin mobile XT i found that, graphic is cool, many additional information such as speed limit, traffic light and ETA....time...
but it is not that easy to handle in term of finding your destination, etc...
it is slow responding and this can cause u miss some turn since u been passing that turn about 5-10 meters then only in the graphic u will reach there... the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
anyway i'm not really sure this is due to the sofware or the GPS chip... since i'm comparing my expirient with 2 different device that running with 2 different sofware
anyway i will try to run my HD with mapking and look the different....
Comparison TomTom 7, IGO 8 and INAVI
TOMTOM 7:
It has the most user-friendly interface and most stright-forward menu. You get whatever you want in just several pushes of buttons. Maps are very precise in west Europa and I think in the USA. In other countries maps aren't that good if they exist. It computes almost the best way. Better than all other programs.
IGO 8
It is the most complete navigation program. It has plenity of options. The drawback of this is that you will need more time to do the same thing. The most useful function not available in TomTom is easy moving and zoming map during navigation. It has maps for much more countries for Israel, Eastern Europa and they are more precise (there are even 3D buildings) and they take less space. If you travel outside Europa and USA or like exploring options then it will be the best choice.
INAVI
It is good. It's the only choice for eastern Europe and some other countries. It has many options (more than TomTom and less than IGO) but navigation is less easy and less precise than others. You can choose it if there is no maps for the country where you go.
Personally I choose TomTom 7 because of it's stright-forward interface. In the car you don't have a lot of time to play with options. 3D buildings don't interest me (I can see them through the window) and I live in west Europe.
Just installed Garmin Mobile XT
Updated to version 5.00.20wp
I'm impressed, works full screen and very smooth, Garmin Online is very well integrated, the interface is clean and easy to navigate, you can really just install and drive/walk off (I did not have to do anything to activate the GPS just plug in the MicroSD card and it automatically installed the soft and I could start navigating)
This does not mean that things cannot be customized, from my first look at the settings it looks like just about anything can be customized.
The integration with WM seems very complete too, from the large "Where to" button I can select a contact and it will have a large "Go" button to start navigating to it.
This morning I tested it in my car and I even got a phonecall during navigating which went flawless, the phone screen came on but I went back to Garmin Mobile via the Start menu and it continued navigating (the data connection was stopped so no more Garmin Online service but it did not stop the navigation)
Voice prompts and warning signals were quite clear through the HD speaker.
The only thing is that the location of my car holder might not be ideal on the open road it was ok but the GPS connection became quite erratic when I entered the city, the GPS info screen showed only 3 satellites that flickered on and off, when I took it out of the holder and held it to the windscreen things got better.
hijamir said:
the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this is normal, the speedo in your car is set slower than the actual speed by design (so you don't think you're driving the speed limit but you're actually speeding). If GPS connection is good GPS speed can be accurate to about 0.1km.
On road GPSes there is always a 1 second lag (1Hz, professional and aviation GPSes can have multiple Hz updates) so accelerating/decelerating will not be correct but for constant speeds the GPS indication is superior to most cars speedos.
I've never had a gps device before, and am pretty new to the whole Winmo scene in general. I saw someone mention that Route 66 worked without tweaking so I bought a discounted version of their Route 66 Navigate 7. I wasn't able to install it directly from the CD, but their customer support responded within an hour or two telling me to copy the memory card directory from the CD directly to my HD's card and run the .cab from the phone.
Works great. Now I just have to fool around with it so I know how to actually use it effectively.. lol.
From their website they list the HD as compatible for their latest "8" version too. I just decided to get the old one for cheap since I don't really have a need for gps. Maybe I'll upgrade at some point if it's worth it.
Ok, I am still waiting for HTC desire to come to my door. At the moment I am just wondering what GPS application available for Android (I mean like Garmin or Tomtom thing??) As I understand both Garmin and Tomtom are still unavailable. I know the phone should come with Google map? As I understand it google map require internet connection not just GPS? the thing is I dont have internet connection with my phone plan. I only use wifi or hotspot. So I need GPS application that can work just by using the built-in GPS? Besides the internet package here downunder in Aussie is pretty limited...too low capacity. I wish they have unlimited connection.
best ones are Copilot and Navigon
JaykaySLO said:
best ones are Copilot and Navigon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??
kuailan said:
Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.
In China, KLD（凯立德） and Gaode（高德） have published NAV software based on android OS, and it run smoothly.
Aura is very nice indeed, but it wont be available soon.
I asked this to Sygic and they said that iPhone version will be available FIRST.
Then Android ...
Now you can wait for a year or two
FloatingFatMan said:
Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Navigon
The trial version works great.
Once activated with a bought key it stops working.
Wierd.
I have CoPilot and Sygic on my Desire and both work fine.
I was not so impressed with Navigon.
I have iGO on my diamond and it beats all three of them qua quality, but must say Aura looks good.
i've just finished to install Igo Amigo for my Desire, and is working so good . For Europe (for me, I've been in many countries) is the best...for America, i think another one like tomtom you should choose.
If anyone is planning on using the hacked-to-work-outside-US Google navigation ("Maps brut"), I wouldn't bother. I've used it and decided it was no replacement for a proper paid GPS application. Turn by turn voice cues are erratic and often late or not-present, and for some reason the next road to be taken is always "unknown". I missed turns twice because of the lack of cues.
I used Google navigation for a 2 1/2 hour journey, in that time the phone went from 2/3 battery to severe battery warnings and red indicator. This was with an old, non-official car charger plugged in! I strongly suspect that the frequency of the screen update and the use of 3G are probably culprits, not to mention the frequent re-routing as I missed turns.
My old WinMo phone used to run CoPilot 7 and would do substantially better with no in-car charging.
What is the battery life like with the £20 CoPilot? Is a proper in-car charger a must for journeys > 3h?
I had some issues on copilot 7 WM with mapping. The maps were quite old and sometimes the routing was very odd. On test routes where I knew where I was going it would sometimes take me off in what I knew to be a longer way round by far. I'm sure there will be much newer maps on version 8.
The Navigon I find is very good but only annoying thing I find is landscape view. Between the bars on the software and the taskbar on the handset, the map only uses about half the available screen which is disappointing.
If anyone knows if it is possible to view more fullscreen please correct me.
Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.
fergusstrachan said:
Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not a cyclist, but shouldn't ANY of them do as long as you stick to the roads? I don't know of any that have off-road capability...
Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...
fergusstrachan said:
Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure you can tell CoPilot to ignore certain roads...
Co-pilot has a walking and a cycling mode. Haven't tried them out yet though.
Tom Tom release?
TomTom 6 om my Diamond was phenomenal, and was by far the most customisable for me. (downloading voices, maps, POI, speed cams etc). I know that TomTom are releasing a ver for Android soon, but does anyone know what the current developments are? Just waiting on my DESIRE now, and am ready to go!! If not anytime soon, I might have to settle with CoPilot, as it has Australia Maps, and South Africa maps (worldcup). How good is CoPilot is though Australia? Anyone know? And do I need an Internet connection to run it?
the best I tried so far and worked brilliantly even in Cyprus is sygic 10 mobile maps!
Navigon gets my vote.
Clear maps, works smooth.
I really like Navigon, look cool...except dont think there is NO map for Australia? Can anyone suggest anything that has Australian map?? I also want something that does not need internet connection?? (Google map is free but need internet) just plain GPS.
I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?
ap3604 said:
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uh, just get the Igo8 world version and delete the maps you don't want. Go to your favorite P2P source, get that, and search the threads here for the proper adjustment to the system file.
I installed it today and even used it. The only thing that it doesn't do is speak the street names.
garmin mobile xt is something i would like to get a legitimate copy of, can anyone confirm that the garmin part number 010-10841-00 is the one that will install on windows mobile?
I see there are still a few retailer online with this item in stock
not that i recommend it at all, and it definitely shouldnt be done, it's pretty easy to find cracked software
but that's a terrible thing to do, and i for one have never done it.
As you mention, there are good free ones now like Bing, I would guess the next version of Google Maps, an app called Waze, etc. As you mention though, they all require data.
I haven't tried the paid ones, but the Copilot sure has a much better price than any of the others. I've seen some good reviews of it, including here on XDA. (Do a search for Copilot on XDA.) So, if you want data-free GPS, that might be a good option.
Notice-that $30 price for Copilot is the US version. (I forget if it includes Canada and/or Mexico. You pay extra (with all the commercial PDA apps) for each extra map you buy. So, if you are going somewhere not included in your package, you had better find out how much it would cost extra to buy the map for that country, continent, etc. Or buy the package for that other country, not the US one.
It almost seems that some here are kind of recommending (although not overtly) searching for illegally cracked versions online. I think it a better idea, if Copilot suits your needs, to buy from them. That sends a message to all--that those who price more reasonably, will get more sales. (Whereas if one is thinking-"I'll just steal the product I want", what message does that send? (In fact, the companies that charge a higher price, probably justify it, on the grounds that so many are stealing the product, that they have to charge more to the few who buy, in order to make ends meet.)
ap3604 said:
I searched the forum and youtube and found GPS apps that used to be available such as:
- Garmin XT (Garmin took this away due to their Garmin phone)
- Igo8 (United states version a.k.a. Oncourse Navigator not available)
- TomTom (Currently $136... quite greedy and for that price I will just buy a stinking GPS unit )
- Navigon (Currently $89... not as greedy as TomTom but I would still just buy a GPS unit for this price)
- Bing (Great option for free but I need something that runs without a data connection)
I want a GPS application I can use without a data connection in case I take trips outside of T-mobiles network. Is CoPilot the only option available?
If it is... could anyone give me their current thoughts on it since they added the "active traffic" update just a few days ago?
- Does CoPilot speak the street names or does it just say "turn left"?
- Are the maps current or do you find yourself with outdated maps?
- Is the Active Traffic helpful and up to date?
- Is it worth the $30 for the app or should I just end up buying a $70 GPS unit off of Amazon?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.
sunking101 said:
CoPilot is rubbish, hands down the worst sat-nav app I've used on any phone. I would say it's not even worth having! Totally inaccurate route calculations. The graphics are nice and the voice just says turn left, turn right, continue etc if I recall correctly. It's been 6 months since I used it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I must disagree. I've had in car installations in my vehicles (two) for almost ten years. I've used Toyota and VDO packages and currently have Pioneer and VW satnavs in my vehicles. I tried CoPilot on my HD2 as an experiment six months ago and found it superior to all of these kits.
For long complex journeys I now use my CoPilot with the in car Pioneer or VW satnavs as a back up.
My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money.
By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.
Are we talking strictly WinMo in this discussion? If not, try IGO Motonav for android. I used IGO for windows mobile and have been using Motonav for android. They share .fbl map files.
ExAviator said:
Sorry I must disagree. My CoPilot voice not only gives directions beyond 'left/right' but also includes street names. It also covers traffic info and speed limits on the screen. Shows the correct lanes on motorways etc and even displays on screen the notice boards that you can see.
Not perfect but very good value for money. By the way I've only used it in the UK and I've no vested interests in CoPilot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Completely agree! CoPilot 8 is an excellent software. I bought the European maps and use it regularly in the UK. Also used it in France, Portugal, Spain, Slovakia and the Czech Republic without a problem. Over the years I had Tom Tom (stand-alone & in WM phone) and I cannot compare both either on competence or on price. In my opinion, as far as WM software goes, CoPilot is well above the rest.
I have to say I really like Copilot Live 8... I've used iGuidance in the past and also TomTom 7, but when you add price & function "I" think that CP8 is pound-for-pound one of the best sat navs available on the HD2.
You can use Bing navigation. (turn-by-turn)