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Hello people,
I want to give my thanks to Sony Ericsson, because they have done what other manufacturers failed to do.
First of all, they are the only manufacturer so far that has pushed verizon into releasing kernel sources, and they are probably the only manufacturer that doesn't get pushed around by Verizon.
The reason (IMO) that we can't unlock bootloaders for CDMA phones Via SE's site is because Verizon just buy the hardware with the source and shift and change. If Verizon say that they will not allow unlocking of bootloaders, then it will not happen, because after all it is the Verizon Xperia Play and Sony Ericsson have little control over it.
Thanks for promising an ICS upgrade for us, even though our phone can be considered quite low spec compared to other devices. I don't get the X10 users at all, they say that Sony Ericsson is bad because they won't update the X10 to ICS even though HTC won't update there Desire S, Incredible S, DHD, Thunderbolt which have only been released since late last year.
Also, having a member on behalf of SE on this forum and part of the dev community is awesome, I had to blink a few times to read what the article said about the OFFICIAL ICS BETA.
Does any other manufacturer give you a way to unlock your bootloader, push verizon to release sources, and upgrade a single core £150 phone (£200 when I got it) to ICS?
To the whining x10 users who are ranting at SE for not giving them an ICS upgrade -> be thankful they gave you Gingerbread, how old is the x10 now? 18 months?
Google have a policy IIRC that a phone can only updated if it is less than 18 month old (why the first nexus did not get 4.0)
And thanks for bringing us so many Xperia Play optimized games! Almost 2 are released every week!
Keiran
You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
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You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
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Yes but at least they have changed. At least they listen to the community and released gingerbread for the x10.
Dropping prices has got Sony written all over it, look at the PS3, launch was £425 and now you can get a 250GB slim one for £275, around 40% less.
Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
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I think I've said it elsewhere, but when I first got into Android I had 2 phones I was eyeying.. the Xperia X10 (great hardware but was limited to 1.6) or an Acer Liquid E (almost as good hardware, running 2.2) - went with the Acer. Since then SE's really stepped up their game, and I'd say this phone is second only to the Nexus line for upgrades. The Acer didn't even last a year.
Now, all I want is an Xperia Play with a non pitiful amount of built in storage and I'd be happy. Dual Core wouldn't hurt either
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
mehdi.moha said:
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
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Well Sony did buy out Ericsson so we might see some Sony made games
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Ty se, fu $ony
SE initially releases heavily priced products and hardly supports dated phones in the past,so I hope now things change for the better in SE(Or should I say,Sony) so consumers like us keep our faith in Sony,especially with Xperia Play.Adding to that fact,I've always loved SE's ROMs which are very nice in my opinion.
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Ty se, fu $ony
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Agreed.Can't believe they want to buy it out as their own.I hope this doesn't make things worse.
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I love Sony guys i must say i had a satio before my xperia play i expected more of satio bu they disaspointed me in that. But the xperia play makes it all good again. And now sony will the boss of the phone market of se i think we will see amazing things on xperia play
Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
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Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
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Lol maybe you should since I keep hearing problems about the customer service.
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there was someone @ XDA, he's xperia play had some issues he sent it to se but they didn't repair it so he sent it to Sony it self and he just got a new one.
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I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
:/ good and bad...
i as one have been an x8 user and still am but i will thank Sony Ericsson for learning from their mistakes by leaving their phones outdated ...(x8 was released with 1.6 when 2.1 come out and 2.1 was out for x8 when i think it was 2.2 maybe 2.3) the ply was sent out with 2.3 at the time of release it was up to date... thank you SE
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
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ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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paxChristos said:
ICS = Ice Cream Sundae = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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I thought it was ice cream sandwich ?
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This Thread will be here for all the discussion regarding Sony, Xperia Play, & ICS myself & Techno-update will be monitering it. Keep it clean!
All other threads related to ICS on the Xperia Play & Sony's Stance on updating will be closed & link to this thread.
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FSM Sony Ericsson Xperia Play
Thank you.
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This is sweet, good job!
Does anyone else think that perhaps this is a precursor to a "Xperia Play 2"? Think about it; the physical hardware probably wouldn't change much (same buttons, slider configuration, similar screen size). The main difference would be the hardware "underneath" (quad core, tegra, etc.) and the software. By dropping ICS off for the original Xperia Play, they can turn around and say the new model runs the superior ICS (and will surely get an update to jellybean)
Im not sure if my xda app is bugged out but on my screen the op's post is blank. Cant see what the topic of discussion is or ops thoughts.
LOL does the Kool-Aid taste good?
No, maybe/ hopefully you are right!! I would love an Xperia Play 2 BUT only after my contract is up....I think I have a year or so left.
this was my latest openion , please go on :
i'm sure that XDA's developers can make ICS better that sony , like what they did on our x10 mini-mini pro ...
sony-mobile allways say that they have expert engineers ...
so , xda's developers are more expert than sony's engineers ???!!!
plus , they only need dommlord , jjkkyu , bin4ry ... ?
i'm sure that sony is liar . just wait 4 or five mounths , maybe sony wants to make new play-xperia ! ( something like xperia play 2 ) ! and that is reason to leave our xperia play without hard working on update .
on 2010 , they stopped working on X10 series , just because of 2011 series !
just look at apple updates , they support their specs for 3 years ,!unfortunately , now i can understand , why apple owners , allways laugh at us !
Ics 4.0.4??? N Play didnt get it??? Bummer. Lets hope our talented dev can port that updte for our Play.
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Thumbs up to SONY for its strategy..
first, released ICS BETA version.. i think they already know the feedback : many would report bugs on gaming
second, with bugs gaming report.. this will create an opinion for some users : better not getting the update than couldn't enjoy the gaming experience
third, with that opinion created.. of course some users wouldn't blame them at all
Imagine if SONY do not release ICS BETA n suddenly made a statement no ICS update for Xperia Play in the very last minute, ........ ???
Why dont you start a petition before its to late? Ask for ICS or at least a value pack.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
I think this is just a delay, not cancel.
But anyway, i will start my ics project soon, no longer waiting.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
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i'm agree with you
we should finally teach sony that PROMISE IS PROMISE .
a broken apple is better than sony-mobile's xperia
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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Now thats an IDEA!!!
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
RezaFaliq said:
Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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yeah , sony also promised new PSsuite and psp games !!!
i want to be patient , but i can't
Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
Indie developers, on the other hand, are much more careful with their code, since they don't have the ability to port a game to twenty platforms and offset the possible losses of one platform with the other one. That means they produce code which is much better tailored to the platform they work on, and you can see it because most indie games work properly in both GB and ICS (note that I'm not talking about the quality of the game itself, but of its code).
TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
P.S if someone is so unhappy about not having ICS that they don't want that piece of crap lying around in their home, I offer to pay $50 plus shipping for it
Sony makes a Fony promise....
RIP Sony
I was looking for an ICS phone with gaming capability and decent specs, the Xperia play looked good and so I bought it as Sony had "promised" an ICS update. I am vvery dissatisfied and disappointed with them and hope they are hit with a lawsuit. If not id at least like some compensation.
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Hi Everyone,
I saw a lot of posts in Xperia Play section like " I will buy a new phone. I will switch my Play. " I know, the reason is ICS update. But, If we get ICS, we will never use it smoothly, right ? Ice Cream Sandiwch was came a lot of Xperia. But, which Xperia can use ICS smoothly ? Let's assume that, we got ICS. ICS uses a lot of RAM. (Let anyone accept this, please!) And ICS isn't a gaming friend. But Xperia Play is gaming phone. I mean ICS is not for us anyway. What do you guys think ?
hmm, older phones with similar or worse specs can handle ics well, like nexus s,htc one v (same chipset, 512mb ram)
The problem with ICS is the gaming aspect, not hardware limitations.
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People are too spoiled these days. Once they learn that a newer version of ANYTHING is coming to their device, they absolutely HAVE to have it. And if a company decides to back out of its promise (like Sony did with ICS for Xperia Play), people will cry on internet forums and some even decide to get rid of their phone in favour of another one that can run ICS. Though they somehow ignore the fact that doing this, they lose the BIGGEST advantage Xperia Play has over any other phone - physical controls.
My next phone will be Sony Xperia U SK25i
Getting it near Xmas and will keep my play
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I think ICS is just have Beautiful UI , Nova Launcher and Chrome. I'm happy with Gingerbread. **** you sony, I dont care ICS so you can stop any development you want
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It's not about ICS itself, it's about Sony not keeping promises: ICS, PSP games etc.
Speaking for myself, The Xperia play is a good phone, not great, i bought seeking for game specs on a phone, such as you would by a pc for games, you would think it would have alot more then any phone, but in fact it had less specs the only thing it has is physical controls, but in may games you can switch your physical keyboard to make it a gamepad or add a usb gamepad to work with it, so it really doesnt give you such a difference, im always laggy on games and even on the homescreen some times, ICS on the rom from keiran im running much better then on the 2.3.4 official firmware, thats why im going to leave behind the play.
Besides the fact of sony backing up on releasing the ICS which i've been expected since they announce it
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My next phone will be Sony Xperia U SK25i
Getting it near Xmas and will keep my play
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@KeiranFTW haha! I thought you said you were never buying another Sony smartphone xD
Anyways, check out my thread on Make Believing the True Playstation Phone. Would love some imaginative feedback!
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KeiranFTW said:
My next phone will be Sony Xperia U SK25i
Getting it near Xmas and will keep my play
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Why are you getting the Xperia U and keeping the Play at the same time ?
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Why are you getting the Xperia U and keeping the Play at the same time ?
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I might have to sell the play to get the U.
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I would get the go and acro S
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I'm getting the htc one s the performance off that phone is mental can't wait for it.
As I'm on contract and it ends in a couple months I can still keep my play and I probably will for some time but just for a gaming machine.
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sony should just release the sources for their touchpads, this would be great, and we can finally switch to roms like cm9 and aokp with touchpad support!
Well, for me I'll switch back to good old HTC with the One X this time, only reason I bought an SE Xperia is cause of the gamepad and so far it's been a real good experience. I don't care about the ICS it's ugly. One X with MIUI rom I'm looking forward to.
As someone who had a Galaxy Nexus and used a USB OTG cable for my USB gamepad, the Play is a savior. I thought I'd be all set, but it prevents you from charging the device at the same time. Plus you have to prop it up somewhere. It was really annoying. Nothing beats physical controls, and this thing runs emulators like a champ. No complaints here.
The fact that I know for as long as I have this phone I need to stick to the same version is depressing. Since I cant unlock my bl I can't install the epic Roms. Thats the only reason I no longer want to keep my phone, id rather a regularly updated one. But I'm not selling this phone yet. I'll give it awhile.
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The fact that I know for as long as I have this phone I need to stick to the same version is depressing. Since I cant unlock my bl I can't install the epic Roms. Thats the only reason I no longer want to keep my phone, id rather a regularly updated one. But I'm not selling this phone yet. I'll give it awhile.
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Why can't you unlock? At least you don't have to pay like R800x users.
I also still like the play and as I got no extra money, I won't be able to switch to another phone in a while.
That it's not getting update to ICS is for me on the one side noot so much important...
But on the other site... I simply hate getting lied right to my face, and thats what happend here. I bought the phone with SONY's promise it will get ICS in April and now it doesn't.
Thats actually ground enough to sue them because they tricked you into buying it with false promises.
Highlighting that aspect from another side - They are not keeping their well documented promise to update to android 4, that means my phone is missing all the functions an android 4 update would have brought -> Underperforming phone / phone with missing functionalities, as they promised to update and now do not. Should be enough to get some money back as you do not get the full functionalities you actually bought by paying full price...
tbh. I'm just pissed of at the company right now... Sony (we) make. (You) believe
I got the galaxy 3 and I'm not looking back.. Best phone I've ever had
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Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
I really don't get it sow much people want an xperia play 2 or a phone like this but sony keeps saying no, why :s make an xperia play HD or at least a phone wits psych controls is enough for the most i think
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Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
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on my opinion H/W controler is much better that touch control .
also xperia play 2 was one of my best wishes !
but now , don't care , really don't care sony waht sony said . cause they already don't know what they wanna do
Every article that says this is basically regurgitating the same thing: such and such "Squashed Rumors".
What rumors. What did he say EXACTLY? That's what I want to know, because the media (especially tech media) is very good at hearing something that isn't said.
Personally, I think that with a focus on the playstation experience, an xperia play 2 is inevitable.
I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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Yeah, me too. A shame that they are not planing it just yet.
If it wasn't for the release price of the Xperia Play, I think that more people would have bought it. At least here, in Portugal.
It's still too early to be announcing the Xperia Play 2 cause the Vita was released a few months ago.
I bet SE were thinking, "How great are we, a part of a gamepad that is sort of a touchscreen, not buttons? Aren't we clever and innovative?"
Hmmm... No.
Hindsight is good; foresight Is better.
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I think the decision as of now would be no more XP2
Bcz XP is successfully as a play phone, but for help much to expend the PlayStation @ Android market.
I think for Sony, their aim is to sell the game but not just the phone.
Sony has sunk a lot of cash into the slow to react vita.... This is the reason for no ics.... Or a ver. 2......
(?) If you were in sony's shoes would you Not do the same thing?
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It wont be a Xperia play 2 it will be another version if the vita with phone capability or something along those lines
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It's easy to understand: if the Playstation Certified brand becomes a success then maybe we'll see a Xperia Play 2.
I don't get why Sony tries to piss off so much the XPlay owners/commmunity. Instead of continuously giving out bad news for the device, they should try to reconcile with us by giving something else in change.
Although Sony is a nice company with great ideas, concepts and products, they seem to fail at this matter. I am still waiting for a good update for XPlay with many new additions.
It won't be an Xperia Play 2. It'll be a "Playstation Phone"
It won't be either, Sony wanted to kill the play ever since they found out someone bought one instead of a vita.
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Whatever they do, a phone with Vita OS won't stand a chance.
First, majority of people need their phone to be dependable and secure, and NOT be a "plaything". An OS that evolved around a game console simply won't be treated seriously by consumers.
Second, Apps from all the major players are required such as google map, gmail, facebook, twitter, flash player, whatsapp, youtube, dropbox, etc... needless to say there's always arm-twisting between these, and other companies, to prevent any new OS from succeeding.
Without a serious image and support from these companies, a phone running on such an OS won't hit a critical mass required to attract app/content developers, and it will flop even harder than Xperia PLAY.
At this time, the next Xperia Play's best OS choice is still Android. But even then, I think Sony really dislike the idea of Playstation ecosystem sitting on top of Android. They may think it changes too fast, too many different hardware, or difficult to control piracy.
So even the best choice is not appealing. So I think Sony won't be putting Playstation content on Smartphones for years yet. And that's a shame because It think that's exactly what we all want happening now.
If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
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If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
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I'm seriously hoping HTC produces a phone with a gamepad. I've had a thing against sony for a long time (going back to before PS3 launched, but its gotten ever worse ever since). I was seriously biting the bullet to get this phone for its gamepad functionality. I've always wanted an HTC phone, and if they manage to come out with a game phone with decent specs, I'll be all over it. Anything to shoot sony the bird.
If they gave the xperia play higher specs and made it more future proof then they would be seeing them starting to fly out now. Ironic at e3 they were saying they only put out the best.
This xperia play belongs in 2010
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hi guys
i just want to let you know that sony preparing a surprise for 11 june :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/06/08/sony-mobile-prepping-a-surprise-for-monday-11-june/
let's share your wishes guys
i hope xperia play 2 ...
I think it will be new phone but not Xperia PLAY 2.
Rather Xperia Neo L (rumors about escaping from China), Xperia GX (international release - cool phone btw) or Xperia ION (another nice phone).
But if they announce XP2... this would be the most exciting day we've ever had, I think :-D
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Not a chance that it will be the PLAY2, simply wont happen.
My guess is a phone that no one cares about, like the Xperia ion.
Queue the disappointment
Might actually be XP2. The message says "something fun". A gaming phone is something fun.
Or then again it might be some engineering wonder phone with awesome specs but not controls, ergo a useless gaming device but decent phone and great gadget.
Maybe some PSP games like Daxter or Syphon Filter for Playstation Certified devices finally?! Sony, where are you?
I think it could possibly be some bigger title games or something software related but I highly doubt it'll be an xplay2 this phone was a bomb sales wise and only a certain crowd was attracted to it and it makes no sense for them to make another more powerful version so soon. Xperia play 2 = pipe dream! The odds are better to win the lottery or get struck by lightning
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I don't believe it's anything for us.. In my opinion they aren't going to support us anymore. Have you seen neo l? It looks like Xperia play without the joypad
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i wish ... xperia play 2 , a phone that can kill galaxy s 3 ...
oh god
i think this phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641113
Really do hope it is an xperia play 2, id preorder straight away!
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Sony Xperia Tab
They have no plans for a xp2 right now per my friend at Sony. Shame too...an upgraded xp2 would be awesome.
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- The Xperia Play is aprox. 1 year old.
- The "Playstation Certified" ecosystem is too much young, 1 year aprox. too.
- All the "Playstation Certified" devices haven't recieved the Playstation Suite (Playstation Mobile now).
Because all of this, I don't exepct a possible Xperia Play 2 at least after one year or more.
With this and the rumours again about ICS you all are beginning to hype too much and then when you see nothing coming will rage and flood all the forum telling how horrible is Sony. u__u
its definetly gaming related "something fun" and it still being E3 gives it away
lets just hope its something worthwhile
im waiting for
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silvacrest said:
its definetly gaming related "something fun"
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"Something fun" can be a new app, a new mobile just with a good camera...
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and it still being E3 gives it away
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The E3 has been from 5th to 7th of June, we are now on 9th...
And if Sony wanted to show anything on the E3 it would had done it on its conference, and no Xperia Play 2 was shown.
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"Something fun" can be a new app, a new mobile just with a good camera...
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I agree. "Something fun" is completely dependent on what Sony thinks it's consumers will regard as being "fun." That could be music, movies, games, exercise, or any other aspect of "entertainment" that Sony already has its hands in. Honestly, don't expect too much from this news. Remember the last big announcement? There was all the hype about the PS Store adding new games or making the US able to buy games or whatever, and it ended up being nothing special.
I'd say move along, there's nothing to see here. At least wait for the actual event to talk about it, rather than build up your fanboy hopes. Like Miles Wolf said, don't hype yourselves up just to end up flooding the forums with your disdain that it wasn't what you expected/wanted.
when it's not related to our product you will all go a la rage-comics again.. that is just dumb
I believe and i hope it is ics for xplay. Lolz
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It's the PSuite and PStore, finally.
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