Petition SPRINT for a new HTC Slider (part 2) - EVO Shift 4G General

If you really want a new HTC slider I really suggest doing the following:
Send an email to [email protected] and tell them you are thinking of cancelling your service and how dissatisfied with Sprint's current product line.
State there is currently no phone to upgrade to from the Evo Shift (no ICS slider) and that you are thinking of going to Verizon and getting the Droid 4.
You will get a call from "Dan's team". Please reiterate and stress these facts.
HTC won't make a new slider unless Sprint asks for one. Petitioning HTC is pointless.
Anyways, 29 calls later (don't ask) after getting my "early upgrade" letter and a $65 credit on my account and emailing [email protected] here I am, still frustrated. Waiting for my contract to run out and looking at a Droid 4 at Verizon (the company I paid $600 to get away from).
After my phone call with them I asked if they would follow up with me and they said "No, but we'll take your feed back in to consideration".
Anyways, I think this is the right place to be yelling at.

I noticed recently that there is no slider in their current lineup and realized I am going to have to be very careful with my shift.
I'd help you out, but I'm not going to call them and tell them I am going to cancel when my contract expires.. 14 months from now... (I didn't get any early upgrade notification)

Here's the problem. Sliders are not in high enough demand to constitute Sprint spending the money to have a slider by any manufacturer. There was a rumor of a Sammy slider but it looks like that never came to fruition.
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benthe1 said:
Here's the problem. Sliders are not in high enough demand to constitute Sprint spending the money to have a slider by any manufacturer. There was a rumor of a Sammy slider but it looks like that never came to fruition.
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Most sliders are not separate, individual designs; they are successful models that have been modified slightly to to have a physical keyboard and sliding screen. It is much cheaper for the manufacturer (and consequently the carrier) to tweak existing designs over commissioning an entirely new design.
If our collective petitioning gets noticed by Sprint, it'll be more of a "Okay, let's throw them a bone to keep them happy" move, rather than a HTC One X sort of decision. We will probably have to wait for 4G LTE phones to mature and become slider candidates, but I have faith.

benthe1 said:
Here's the problem. Sliders are not in high enough demand to constitute Sprint spending the money to have a slider by any manufacturer. There was a rumor of a Sammy slider but it looks like that never came to fruition.
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Actually they are. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I go to a spot in the mall that puts screen protectors on my phones and was asking the guy if he got a lot of Evo Shifts and he said a lot of Shifts come through his stand.
Again, HTC manufacturers what the phone companies tell them to make.
If Sprint said "Make the Evo Shift LTE" HTC would make it in a heart beat. If 100,000 end users told HTC to make the Evo Shift LTE nothing would happen.

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Most sliders are not separate, individual designs; they are successful models that have been modified slightly to to have a physical keyboard and sliding screen. It is much cheaper for the manufacturer (and consequently the carrier) to tweak existing designs over commissioning an entirely new design.
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Although I don't disagree, and thats certainly a possibility. (Samsung and LG have been known to do this, I think.)
What was the HTC Evo Shift based off of?
Looks like it might be some sort of meld between HTC Evo and HTC Desire Z, but really it's, it's own phone as much as any phone is. [All phone are going to share design as much as they possibly can]
Interesting:
http://androidandme.com/2012/04/smartphones-2/htc-is-moving-away-from-qwerty-keyboard-phones/

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Although I don't disagree, and thats certainly a possibility. (Samsung and LG have been known to do this, I think.)
What was the HTC Evo Shift based off of?
Looks like it might be some sort of meld between HTC Evo and HTC Desire Z, but really it's, it's own phone as much as any phone is. [All phone are going to share design as much as they possibly can]
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From what I can gather, it's an Evo with Desire Z and Hero elements. A little more than the "tweaked design" I was talking about, but nowhere near a total redesign.
Interesting link on HTC's plans for the future. It looks like they're shying away from keyboards... both physical and virtual
It's rumored that LG is working on a Viper with a keyboard for Sprint (say what you will about LG quality).
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-mr-blurrycam-reveals-lg-ls860-and-some-specs

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From what I can gather, it's an Evo with Desire Z and Hero elements. A little more than the "tweaked design" I was talking about, but nowhere near a total redesign.
Interesting link on HTC's plans for the future. It looks like they're shying away from keyboards... both physical and virtual
It's rumored that LG is working on a Viper with a keyboard for Sprint (say what you will about LG quality).
http://briefmobile.com/exclusive-mr-blurrycam-reveals-lg-ls860-and-some-specs
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No one here cares for LG.

VICODAN said:
Actually they are. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I go to a spot in the mall that puts screen protectors on my phones and was asking the guy if he got a lot of Evo Shifts and he said a lot of Shifts come through his stand.
Again, HTC manufacturers what the phone companies tell them to make.
If Sprint said "Make the Evo Shift LTE" HTC would make it in a heart beat. If 100,000 end users told HTC to make the Evo Shift LTE nothing would happen.
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It's all about supply and demand. If their was a significant demand, there would be a supply. In fact, the supply already out pretty much defines the demand.
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benthe1 said:
It's all about supply and demand. If their was a significant demand, there would be a supply. In fact, the supply already out pretty much defines the demand.
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And the phone's been on back order plenty of times with Sprint now.
What's your point? We all took economics in high school.

We'll see a slider. I dont think we will see it any less than 6 months from now though once the LTE runs out of its awe and wow factor
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And the phone's been on back order plenty of times with Sprint now.
What's your point? We all took economics in high school.
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Then you weren't paying attention. Sliders are a thing of the passed. Get over it or just buy a bunch of EVO Shifts so you'll always have a back up when your outdated phone keeps dying.
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Then you weren't paying attention. Sliders are a thing of the passed. Get over it or just buy a bunch of EVO Shifts so you'll always have a back up when your outdated phone keeps dying.
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Take your "blazer rom" and head on back to the crapsung epic touch me forums... Thanks bye! :beer:
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Sounds like a troll is jealous of this phone he can't stand the fact that our phone is way better than his
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drob311 said:
Take your "blazer rom" and head on back to the crapsung epic touch me forums... Thanks bye! :beer:
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ahahahahahaha +1

I prefer htc, but if lg produces the pictured phone from that post, htc would have a hard time keeping me! 5 rows? Yeah, I miss the dedicated number row from my g1.
And as far as what this phone is based off of, I sorta followed it though the development stages. I'm pretty sure the g2 was first, then they began development of the merge that was supposed to go to vzw, and then the shift. From what I remember, they all run pretty much the same hardware. When it became apparent that vzw wasn't getting the merge, I was tossing around staying with tmobile for the g2 or move to sprint for the shift. Honestly, one of the main points of the time that brought me to sprint/shift was the reports of the g2's crappy hinge. Lol. Now, I'm glad I made the transition. I like my shift, and hella prefer sprint to tmobile!
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And than we also have the desire z which is also thrown into the mix of merge/shift/g2... Funny thing is that shift, g2, and desire z are all eol yet all are still regularly developed for...
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drob311 said:
Take your "blazer rom" and head on back to the crapsung epic touch me forums... Thanks bye! :beer:
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Absolutely! Have fun with the next dual core slider phone... Haha!
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Just my two cent, but look at the amout of (wimax) 4g phones tht got released while the network was still taking off, including sliders. Im with the opinion the phone will come when sprint asks for it, just my opinion but i believe how far along sprint will be with lte deployment will be irrelavant.
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I'm considering emailing [email protected] to let him know how disappointed I am with the shift. I love this phone but they keep sending me bad replacements (re-furbs). Not to mention they are all on back-order leaving me with malfuntioning devices until the next Malfuntioning device arrives lol.

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Cya On the Other Side!

Well I just sold my Samsung Epic and everything that goes with it. Just like my departure with HTC Hero and the HTC Vogue, I will let y'all know what my decision is for my next device.
I am going to CTIA in Orlando, Florida and I will be at the invitation only Sprint Event, so I'll get to see the new devices they are announcing. Depending on my use with the devices, rumors are HTC Evo 3D and Nexus S 4G, I will make my decision.
I am kinda leaning towards HTC Evo 3D because of it being HTC, which I now realize is better then Samsung, and it is 3D!! Without glasses.
But, the Samsung Nexus S 4G will be supported by Google and always have the latest software. So...it will really depend on which one I love more. Heck the Nexus S might end up being dual core!
Anyways, I'm sorry for the departure. I will still try to provide all the software I can get my hands on, and I will keep you updated on my status.
Thank you community for being awesome,
Korey Nicholson
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep us informed about what you see coming down the road for us...
UFE (Unidentified Flying Epic)
Good luck...so wait a sec you already sold your epic? That much hate huh? Rather use a tin can and string.. Lol.. sadly me too but I don't wanna pull out the ol treo pro until I actually read a hands on review of the quasi new lineup..
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Damn man,that sucks,I guess people want to jump ship with all the BS from Sprint and Samsung,hell I dont blame you...
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Well I have been defending Sprint and Samsung a little too long. I am going back to my HTC Vogue for awhile. Yeah, that old thing
I have been a HTC man from the start, but they disappointed me on both the HTC Vogue by leaving out OpenGL driver and then on the HTC Hero by ending it's support early for it, and never releasing 2.2. That's why I went to Samsung. I was hoping that the best phone by FAR would get excellent support. I was wrong.
I want to test out LG and Motorola Android devices, but Sprint isn't getting any GREAT Moto or LG devices, like the Atix/Bionix or the Revolution or the Optimus 3D. I'm with Sprint til the end. I will never switch to another company, unless T-Mobile and Sprint merge because I envy GSM devices ALOT. I don't care what happens. I love Sprint and I love their prices. I never have had a problem with them. I know I'm a Sales Rep for them, but I'm being completely unbiased here.
LG is still new to the Android game, so their support is undetermined. Will they be another Samsung/Motorola? Or will they be a HTC/Google? How about I just not take a chance.
From now on I will only buy Google flagship/supported devices or HTC devices. Sadly all the great devices from both of those go to GSM, except for the HTC Evo. The Evo blew away everyone and broke all the records. Now Sprint is probably going to do it again with the HTC Evo 3D or the Google Nexus S 4G.
Nexus S is Samsung, but it is Google supported. It will be the first CDMA Google device, if you don't count the Xoom, which I don't. The HTC Evo 3D will be the most supported by Sprint. Sprint will defintively be pumping money into that phone like no other. That's why I said I will really need to take some time and think about whether to choose the Nexus S 4G or the HTC Evo 3D. Both are going to be highly supported, the Nexus S more then the Evo 3D just because it's Google's FLAGSHIP CDMA device, but the Evo 3D will likely be the second device to get all the updates just like the first Evo did.
It will all come down to which one I like more in my hand. I will be writing a review for all the devices I try out on BriefMobile.com, and I will include my decision on which device I decide on.
Nexus S 4G vs. HTC EVO 3D
Which one will win my heart for the next 6 months? We will find out in 2 weeks when I get to see them up close and personal!
EDIT: Major +1 is Netflix support too. I have had Netflix for the past 5 months and I cannot live without it. My next phone must have it or else...
Briefmobile? I'm subscribing now.
EDIT: Thought it was a magazine subscription, will read your article online.
You make some great points,Ive owned about 6 samsung phones,this might be the last unless like you said,"its gota be a google suported phone"... So Ill be keeping an eye out on your choice and reviews.
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Overstew said:
Briefmobile? I'm subscribing now.
EDIT: Thought it was a magazine subscription, will read your article online.
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ecooce said:
You make some great points,Ive owned about 6 samsung phones,this might be the last unless like you said,"its gota be a google suported phone"... So Ill be keeping an eye out on your choice and reviews.
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Yep, I write part time for BriefMobile.com
I put everything I ever find or review on there. A lot of exclusive material. And yes, come March 21st through March 24th, I will be writing non-stop because of all the stuff I will be reviewing down in Orlando. I have numerous briefing and meetings scheduled with alot of big name companies and their CEOs.
One that I cannot wait for is my meeting with LG on the 22nd at 4pm. I will get a look at the two new devices LG will be showcasing at CTIA. And my CoolPix S80 is ready to do some work
Good luck bro. Thanks for everything you've done. Ill definitely be checking out your articles on the next devices.
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Whosdaman said:
Well I just sold my Samsung Epic and everything that goes with it. Just like my departure with HTC Hero and the HTC Vogue, I will let y'all know what my decision is for my next device.
I am going to CTIA in Orlando, Florida and I will be at the invitation only Sprint Event, so I'll get to see the new devices they are announcing. Depending on my use with the devices, rumors are HTC Evo 3D and Nexus S 4G, I will make my decision.
I am kinda leaning towards HTC Evo 3D because of it being HTC, which I now realize is better then Samsung, and it is 3D!! Without glasses.
But, the Samsung Nexus S 4G will be supported by Google and always have the latest software. So...it will really depend on which one I love more. Heck the Nexus S might end up being dual core!
Anyways, I'm sorry for the departure. I will still try to provide all the software I can get my hands on, and I will keep you updated on my status.
Thank you community for being awesome,
Korey Nicholson
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I think I will be following you down that Nexus S road if that's what you choose... I love everything about this epic except for the carrier branded crap, touchwiz, the loose and flimsy screen and the size because of the keyboard... the Nexus S looks to be a nice balance
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Yep, I write part time for BriefMobile.com
I put everything I ever find or review on there. A lot of exclusive material. And yes, come March 21st through March 24th, I will be writing non-stop because of all the stuff I will be reviewing down in Orlando. I have numerous briefing and meetings scheduled with alot of big name companies and their CEOs.
One that I cannot wait for is my meeting with LG on the 22nd at 4pm. I will get a look at the two new devices LG will be showcasing at CTIA. And my CoolPix S80 is ready to do some work
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Any chance you can get CarrierIQ and the ACS SFR thread some attention by putting up a short news posting?
I really would like it if we could get some attention out there for it, even if it is just purely pointing out that it exists, and that a specific Sprint / Samsung combination has it.
Whosdaman said:
Well I just sold my Samsung Epic and everything that goes with it. Just like my departure with HTC Hero and the HTC Vogue, I will let y'all know what my decision is for my next device.
I am going to CTIA in Orlando, Florida and I will be at the invitation only Sprint Event, so I'll get to see the new devices they are announcing. Depending on my use with the devices, rumors are HTC Evo 3D and Nexus S 4G, I will make my decision.
I am kinda leaning towards HTC Evo 3D because of it being HTC, which I now realize is better then Samsung, and it is 3D!! Without glasses.
But, the Samsung Nexus S 4G will be supported by Google and always have the latest software. So...it will really depend on which one I love more. Heck the Nexus S might end up being dual core!
Anyways, I'm sorry for the departure. I will still try to provide all the software I can get my hands on, and I will keep you updated on my status.
Thank you community for being awesome,
Korey Nicholson
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bye. Enjoy your future new cheaply crippled fragile htc devive. Make sure you do get tep, cause you WILL need it once the lcd screen fails like usual.
Peace bro was nice having you here
Thanks for everything you have done for the community!
Cant wait to see the results on your findings at the show!
Your departure caused me to cry on my pillow at night.
Definitely keep us posted. I'm in the same boat and I am also considering both of those phones. I would love to read your early reviews on them!
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Hmm how much did you sell it for? I want to know how much I should sell mine for. or should I sell my Evo?
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galaxywhat? said:
Hmm how much did you sell it for? I want to know how much I should sell mine for. or should I sell my Evo?
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If you have both,sell the Evo first. I would have loved to keep my Epic, but I need money and I want something else. Something with more support too.
The price is still being negotiated, but it is basically a done deal
I'm suprised that you would even consider an lg. those and htc are the most returned phones because people break them constantly. My wife went through 3 htc moguls and an htc touch pro in 6 mths and she is not hard on her phones at all those brands are garbage. I would suggest a moto phone tho if sprint ever gets one. The nexus s 4g does look inticing.....

Is anyone waiting for the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2)?

I am debating getting the Samsung Within (Galaxy S2) when it's released and would like to hear your thoughts on it. I have not been a big fan of the Samsung devices in the past but I am intrigued by this one.
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I agree with you on that one. I think its more about being sure you get the right phone to have for the next 22 months. It's like getting married, you don't wanna make the wrong choice cause its gonna be a while. My biggest concern is data reception. My friend got a nexus s and couldn't connect to 4g when I had 2 bars of 4g standing right next to him. Also, all of the samoled screens I've seen have a color tint to them so I don't know if samoled+ will be any different.
I'm wondering about the tinted screen myself. I hadn't heard about the 4g issue. I always research my future phones but sometimes you just don't know about it till you get it.
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Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.
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Well I've had one samsung phone, and it was beast, it was the 'smart phone' of its day before smart phones as we know rule the playground. Never had a bad experience, and this one has the hardware to match the software; as I recall [could be wrong] samsung wasn't going to lock the bootloader so it should be rooted, potentialy quickly, and as that phone has the hardware, I believe it'll have more support than the notorious Epic. Also have a samsung 32" LED TV, amazing quality, and I think this phone is worth picking up, and if you don't like it, return it within the 30 days.
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I have heard that the bootloader would be unlocked as well. That is another thing that makes me lean towards getting this. Hardware wise it looks pretty good.
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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Sweet, I would love to have CM7 waiting for it.
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firemedic624 said:
I am an HTC man myself. I hope that they dont add the physical keyboard to it. Just a personal preference. I think I'm going to make the jump when it comes out, that is when my wife gives me the money lol.
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It's all about how you close the deal. My wife has a crap hero (no offense to hero owners, hers just sucks). So I told her I would go through asurion for a new evo since mine has some water damage, then I would let her have it after I upgrade to the 3d or galaxy s2. That way she could have a brand new evo until her upgrade comes in November. Not only is she bugging me to upgrade, but she thinks I'm a genius. Marriage, at times, is all about negotiation. As far as the hardware keyboard, I miss my touch pro 2 keyboard. I don't mind the thickness of the phone, and it made texting a bit easier sometimes. Also, remapping keys for shortcuts was a bonus too.
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As much as I have always loved htc, the s2 just seems to be a better phone. In the side by side videos I've seen it just seems smoother than the 3d. It definitely has the hardware, and from what I've heard the new touchwiz is supposed to be pretty good. I'm waiting go see if the whole subpixel thing actually improves the quality up to qhd like they claim. I'm also curious if sprint is going to add a hardware keyboard like they did with the galaxy s/epic. A no gimmick beast of a phone is definitely something I can deal with until the next upgrade comes up. Worst case scenario, if I go past the 30 days and decide I want the 3d, I'll just order a 3d when the wife isn't lookin and tell her I bought it cheap off a coworker.
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If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.
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If they give that beautiful phone a keyboard, I may cry.
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exact thought i had, although they cannot be that stupid. according to leaked rumors & ****, Sprint WILL have another keyboarded phone, but supposedly it wont be the "Samsung Within" aka the SGS2
I am also waiting to see what else comes out this month.I'm not really interested in the 3d but am keeping my eye on the rumored within
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i'm waiting. played with a SGS2 at CTIA in Florida.. should be awesomsauce & samsung gave out a handful of these devices to CyanogenMod devs so we should see some awesome stuff!!!
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Those were GSM phones and won't help any type of development for any phone coming to sprint. Sorry.
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What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???
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What do you guys think about the rumored Epic 2???
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I haven't heard anything about it yet.
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The s2 is supposed to be out at the end of the month. I'm kind of surprised there haven't been any leaked pictures of the sprint branded s2 (within). They seem to be keeping a pretty tight lid on it so far.
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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Its the Evo 3D, without the 3D; same battery, has the evo's 8MP camera, Evo 3D hardware and software.
josh995 said:
I like my whites to be... Well... White.
Not yellow.
So no, I'm sticking with my Evo for a bit until something comes along that interests me. I'm more curious about the Evo 4G+ I've been hearing about.
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EVO 4G+ is not coming to Sprint.
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Htc again?

I love htc but they did us wrong with the kernal source. I know we got it but they made us wait a while. Even though we did well without is thanks to our awesome devs. I was wondering if all you out there will stick to htc or go elsewhere due to the support? Im not totally mad because like i said we did great without it. Let me know whats in on your mind.
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i'm still gonna support HTC cause no matter what they got the build quality and i love sense still the best
Yeah Sense UI is what keeps me with HTC, its just so pretty and their phones are solid, but here recently i have been thinking alot about them doing us wrong on source but HTC is where ill prolly stay.I have been looking at the Design too
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The build quality on HTC's are solid. The kernel source was really frustrating to me and the way Samsung is handling things makes me want to go Samsung next device. Alas I still have another year+ for an upgrade.
I love HTC I know they took a lot to release the kernel source, like everybody else the build of their phones is great, the htc loggers issue and now the wimax issue.. and still love sense no other manufacturer skin on top is better.
I just switchd to the Motorola Photon just cause it has a great build quality, better radios the international capabilities and is faster overall but the most important thing is that I bought it brand new for only 250 bucks that was less than half price...
But I would definitely buy HTC again in the future.
I agree with others that HTC makes a great phone, and I love Sense; but I'll probably go to a different manufacturer next time around due to the lack of communication from HTC about the delay in releasing our source plus the data logging being done unscrupulously by HTC.
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Yeah Sense UI is what keeps me with HTC, its just so pretty and their phones are solid, but here recently i have been thinking alot about them doing us wrong on source but HTC is where ill prolly stay.I have been looking at the Design too
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I was thinking of the Design too. I figured by New Years/Christmas that maybe the price would drop a little and i can get a good deal on it
It's true HTC did screw everyone by holding up the Source Kernel. I for one am truely pissed off by this. But that being said, I WILL buy an HTC device when I finally decide to retire my Shift. Because I prefer their devices to all the others I have owned (Samsung, Motorola, LG, Sanyo).
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I agree with others that HTC makes a great phone, and I love Sense; but I'll probably go to a different manufacturer next time around due to the lack of communication from HTC about the delay in releasing our source plus the data logging being done unscrupulously by HTC.
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The data logging is done by all manufacturers... samsung's is called "carrier iq"... we will never escape big brother...
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The data logging is done by all manufacturers... samsung's is called "carrier iq"... we will never escape big brother...
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You can believe that , big brother is always watching. Here's a little tid bit for all you out there. I read somewhere recently that their are over 1 million surveillance cameras active in the US
I'm gonna stick with HTC because they have the best quality android phone with sprint. The samsungs and lgs feel like toys and also feel like if you dropped them they'd break. Plus Sense is awsome....
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Although HTC has delayed the Evo Shift kernel source they have stuck to their word on other devices. Look at how fast the kernel source for the HTC Sensation and HTC Evo 3D were released. But like others said I am also pissed about how they kept it from us for so long. Then the only reason they did is because we all got sick of it here on xda and decided to bug the sh** out of them about it. Next time we need to not wait so long and get on their a**es right away
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Definitely will stay with HTC. They, imo, have the best quality devices. And yes ill say it also, sense rocks!!
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I will go with whatever company has a phone with the features I am looking for and it must be able to be rooted fully and I want the Kernel sources released in a timely manner. Build quality is one major thing I do look for. I will not switch from Sprint either...I get too good of an employee discount through my work(24%).
I was in Sam's Club yesterday and handled some of the phones and the Epic Touch 4G is way too big and feels cheap. I would probably not buy a Samsung because of how they feel even though the features and screens seem nice...way too big on the Epic Touch. But nice if they made a high end phone in a 4" screen or smaller like last years models. I am not sure if the screens would overcome the build quality...tough call. Samsung does seem a little better lately with support though.
The Photon felt really nice. It felt solid and seemed to have nice features including a nice kickstand. The styling is a nice change as well. I would consider a Motorola based on build quality and features but I wouldn't buy one until a full root was achieved. They seem better lately but I don't trust them as a company.
The HTC EVO Design 4G felt the best of the bunch. I would love that phone if it had the specs of some of the higher end phones. The build quality was great. It reminded me of the Nexus One based on how it has the unibody type build to it. I would consider this phone in a heartbeat if it had a dual core processor.
The EVO 3D was nice as well but I hate the fact I would be buying a phone with 3D. Even though I could turn it off I hate knowing I am paying for a feature like that which I don't care about. Give me the EVO 3D specs in the EVO Design body/screen size minus the 3D and I'd be in heaven.
It is just too bad you have to buy a tablet sized screen to get the best specs anymore. After owning the EVO Shift as my first smartphone and using Swype and Swift Key X I will not buy another phone with a hardware keyboard but I will also not buy a phone with a screen larger than 4" so I am in a sort of dilemma as I don't have a lot of choices these days in high end phones. Hopefully by January-June 2013 there will be better options with better sized screens available. That Epic Touch just felt huge. There is no way it would be comfortable to put in my pocket.
Anyway, back on topic. Yes, I would buy another HTC but not out of brand loyalty or anything like that. I buy based on what the phone has to offer.
amoled looks soooo good that I'll be jumping brands when the time comes.
I'm actually upgrading from my shift to an epic 4g touch but strictly for issues with the device(ie. Messages, contacts, replacements w/ corroded motherboards) but I plan on keeping my shift and rooting it. Just can't stay with a manufacturer who can't do anything to help on a carrier who only cares about high end devices.
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EVO 4G hits Sprint's EOL list... :(

http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...Feed:+gadgetell+Gadgetell+-+www.gadgetell.com
What's the significance of EOL? Just simply that you won't be able to purchase them new anymore?
Wow, I got my Evo launch day 6/4/10, and have never had it replaced or had any of the hardware issues I've seen others complain about/report. I love my Evo.
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What's the significance of EOL? Just simply that you won't be able to purchase them new anymore?
Wow, I got my Evo launch day 6/4/10, and have never had it replaced or had any of the hardware issues I've seen others complain about/report. I love my Evo.
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It has the best screen aspect ratio, and great visual resolution (biggest icons).
Just did a speed test compared to the 3d it sends and receives twice as fast.
If HTC and Sprint don't have a line item replacement with the same characteristics ... see ya later.
sad, to say the least. my evo is coming up on it's first birthday , i may wanna grab one more brand new before it disappears into sprint heaven.......
The EVO SHALL LIVE On.
One of the greatest phones mankind has seen. Or held. Experienced. *tear*
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It's perhaps their best seller up until the iPhone 4S and new Samsung Galaxy phones came in.
I just had to have mine replaced and sadly ended up with a refurbished one. No biggie though. The EVO 4G is perhaps the best phone they've had at Sprint. I can't wait to see if there's a new HTC phone announced during the MWC for Sprint.
I device 'truly' hits EOL when the development stops, and I mean we have ICS. We're good to go for a while guys.
October 2011 called they want their news back lol, evo 4g went eol just before Halloween meaning no new shipments of phones from HTC only leftover stock of new phones rest are all refurbs
We are legion, for we are many.
yeah, okay bud....
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October 2011 called they want their news back lol, evo 4g went eol just before Halloween meaning no new shipments of phones from HTC only leftover stock of new phones rest are all refurbs
We are legion, for we are many.
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Guess my crystal ball was broken, but either way - that link was posted on the web the same day I posted in this post. Dated January 25, 2012 7:57 am. Don't you think if it was on the list back around Halloween, SOMEONE else would have posted it SOMEPLACE on XDA??? I do, and its not anywhere...
Moving on, and I quote - "the latest leaked EOL list is coming from Sprint and has a few key devices included."
Get over it dude, I was just passing on the info.... you're welcome...
Speaks to the level of badassery of the Evo. EOLd TWICE!
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Sad to see. I've had the same Evo since day 1. Love this darn phone. But, luckily, like the other posters have said, as long as the devs here keep developing for it, it's not EOL. At least until the Galaxy Nexus is available!
I am just curious what they would replace with it, I have to get mine replaced so now I know to do it ASAP. Does any where keep track of what ends up becoming the replacement device if one becomes damaged after EOL and they have depleted there refurb stock.
There goes any chance of an official ICS Rom
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Guess my crystal ball was broken, but either way - that link was posted on the web the same day I posted in this post. Dated January 25, 2012 7:57 am. Don't you think if it was on the list back around Halloween, SOMEONE else would have posted it SOMEPLACE on XDA??? I do, and its not anywhere...
Moving on, and I quote - "the latest leaked EOL list is coming from Sprint and has a few key devices included."
Get over it dude, I was just passing on the info.... you're welcome...
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It was posted someplace on XDA back then. I made reference to it in this post back in Sept.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17912172&postcount=18073
We wouldn't have 4+" screens or 4G without the Evo. The most important smartphone release in the last few years for sure.
I believe the HD2 was the first 4+" screen, nearly identical HW to Evo. In fact, devs have WinMo (native), Android 2.2,2.3, & 4.0, AND Ubuntu/Linux, and WinPhone7 running on it (multi boot)!!! Pretty amazing stuff, there.
But still, yeah, the Evo has been one wicked machine. And we were lucky with amazing devs from day 1 (toast, virus, lithid, etc). Its been fun. And continues to be, with devs still bringing ICS to it/us.
And post about EOLd twice due to badassery.....lol nice
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I am just curious what they would replace with it, I have to get mine replaced so now I know to do it ASAP. Does any where keep track of what ends up becoming the replacement device if one becomes damaged after EOL and they have depleted there refurb stock.
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Asurion has been replacing them with Evo 3ds, in many cases. There's a thread here in General about exactly that, just saw it yesterday. And apparently sprint has sent letters to 30,000 customers/ex-customers trying to get some Evo 4gs back to use for refurb. Lol (I personally prefer the OG to the 3d by far,..don't like the narrow screen or materials used on 3d).
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I believe the HD2 was the first 4+" screen, nearly identical HW to Evo. In fact, devs have WinMo (native), Android 2.2,2.3, & 4.0, AND Ubuntu/Linux, and WinPhone7 running on it (multi boot)!!! Pretty amazing stuff, there.
But still, yeah, the Evo has been one wicked machine. And we were lucky with amazing devs from day 1 (toast, virus, lithid, etc). Its been fun. And continues to be, with devs still bringing ICS to it/us.
And post about EOLd twice due to badassery.....lol nice
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Tell me about it I miss that phone alot haha. It was so cool Dec 30th 2010 when we were finally able to run Android on nand. I showed that phone off alot. Windows phone running Android haha.
Then later down the line CLK recovery came out so the phone would go from splash screen straight to boot animation no more MAGLDR screen haha.
But before that I was hooked on Energy winmo roms. Good days...
Evo is still an awesome phone no complaints what so ever. We have Roms for days.
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i don't care what anyone says this phone is revolutionary and in my mind still the best on the market and until they make a new evo that has the same screen size (not skinny like the 3d) and keep the look almost exactly the same as the 4g we all know and love this will be my phone of choice :')

Since Shift4G is EOL, Failuire Prone & no ICS or Sense 4=E4GT or Iphone 4S?

So, now that my beloved Shift 4G is pretty much dead in the ground, how do the other current Shift owners feel about the Samsung Epic 4G Touch and the Iphone 4S? I am thinking about upgrading.
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So, now that my beloved Shift 4G is pretty much dead in the ground, how do the other current Shift owners feel about the Samsung Epic 4G Touch and the Iphone 4S? I am thinking about upgrading.
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Those phones are downgrades...
And... The shift isn't anywhere near "dead in the ground"... We just had at least 3 new roms released in the last month... Sounds real dead to me...
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I personally don't think any phone is truly EOL until developer support stops. I'm sure there will be sense 4.0 roms out sooner or later for the Shift. That said, having used to E4GT I find it very underwhelming. The S2 line as a whole wasn't as awe inspiring as it should have been... Not to mention samsung build quality sucks. As for the iPhone... Its an iPhone. A good phone if your willing to bend over for Apple, personally would never move from an Android to an iPhone, too much of a backward leap. Probably should wait for the EVO One, I think that's supposed to drop in June sometime
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He ^ said everything that I was too lazy to say... Samsuck is just not good... Unless you like loss of signal and random airplane mode... iFail's are just that, a locked down, half smartphone made for the non tech savvy and soccer moms... But it has siri... FAIL!!!!
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So, now that my beloved Shift 4G is pretty much dead in the ground, how do the other current Shift owners feel about the Samsung Epic 4G Touch and the Iphone 4S? I am thinking about upgrading.
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Both of those devices, the SamSUCK ,and the ITurd are just truly GARBAGE. I have had to repair both, and have owned several SamSUCK devices ( DARK DAYS) . No thank you, both are a huge downgrade. Also just because a device goes EOL, does not mean it is dead. Look at the original Sprint HERO. It's still has a strong following. The EVO4G same thing. The Touch Pro2, I can go on. IMO hold on to the Shift till HTC steps up, and gives us something we want.
At least wait for the htc one x to come to sprint. Because then we should have sense 4.0 out for us and it gives more time for u to pick a new phone
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For the love of Gawd do not get the iphone 4s, drob is right it's a complete fail. "We added android notifications, ota updates, and voice search (siri)", all things android has had for a long time! There's a app called everfriends on the market that does the same stuff as siri.
Now the title of this thread really cracks me up. "No ICS or Sense 4" but you think you can get that on a iphone 4s? *smh*
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my Shift and I LOVE Android.
But, if the damn phone keeps failing, and I can't get a replacement from Sprint, what's the point of holding on?
What I love the most about Android is QWERTY, removable battery, and removable memory. I HATE Apple and Steve Jobs. But, if HTC is only going to build Iphone clones for now on, why not just go with the real thing?
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He ^ said everything that I was too lazy to say... Samsuck is just not good... Unless you like loss of signal and random airplane mode... iFail's are just that, a locked down, half smartphone made for the non tech savvy and soccer moms... But it has siri... FAIL!!!!
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I love this man, (in a perfectly straight way) for all he and everyone else does. I DISAGREE. Samsung makes GREAT products. Not better than my shift but nice. Don't diss my shift. I'll find you....
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tt c6 said:
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my Shift and I LOVE Android.
But, if the damn phone keeps failing, and I can't get a replacement from Sprint, what's the point of holding on?
What I love the most about Android is QWERTY, removable battery, and removable memory. I HATE Apple and Steve Jobs. But, if HTC is only going to build Iphone clones for now on, why not just go with the real thing?
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If you really want a iphone then go get one no here can stop you from that..Have fun with that..
tt c6 said:
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my Shift and I LOVE Android.
But, if the damn phone keeps failing, and I can't get a replacement from Sprint, what's the point of holding on?
What I love the most about Android is QWERTY, removable battery, and removable memory. I HATE Apple and Steve Jobs. But, if HTC is only going to build Iphone clones for now on, why not just go with the real thing?
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Well if that works for you than do it. You'll be back, they all come back. Takes some a little longer than others. But they all come back .
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
Once you go use the Android OS you will always hold regrets when using an iPhone. At LEAST use a windows phone 7 device . Even then though.... Wait for the EVO One buddy. (or buy a cheap EVO 3d unopened on Craigslist. That's what I did to tide Me over when I moved from the shift to the og EVO)
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Both of those devices, the SamSUCK ,and the ITurd are just truly GARBAGE. I have had to repair both, and have owned several SamSUCK devices ( DARK DAYS) . No thank you, both are a huge downgrade. Also just because a device goes EOL, does not mean it is dead. Look at the original Sprint HERO. It's still has a strong following. The EVO4G same thing. The Touch Pro2, I can go on. IMO hold on to the Shift till HTC steps up, and gives us something we want.
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Xdandroid is still in development for many devices released before or with android. In some places development never dies. I know I will be happy with the shift until a quadcore slider comes out. May be a long and happy wait lol.
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I love this man, (in a perfectly straight way) for all he and everyone else does. I DISAGREE. Samsung makes GREAT products. Not better than my shift but nice. Don't diss my shift. I'll find you....
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Except the NS4G. Owned 3 of those, and they all SUCKED. Dropping calls all the time, no 4g reception where I can connect fine with my Shift, and random switching to 1x in what is a solid 3g region.
The only Samsung I ever owned was the original Instinct and I thought that was the ish! After that, I upgraded to a HTC HERO, and no sooner, the SHIFT!!! I am not eligible for an upgrade 'til Nov. So plenty of time to see what's out there...
i think i might get an evo lte. also, i haven't experienced failures. i had a new screen put on after a 7 foot fall onto carpet made 15% of the touchscreen not work (which was weird), but nothing but a good phone for the last 1.25 years.
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Both of those devices, the SamSUCK ,and the ITurd are just truly GARBAGE.
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Lmao thanks for the laugh!
Just an update:
I got the Photon Q LTE and I am LOVING it.
I think I'll like the Q myself. I've looked through the Photon Q forums and haven't seen a sense 4.0 port yet though.
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I think I'll like the Q myself. I've looked through the Photon Q forums and haven't seen a sense 4.0 port yet though.
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I like the Motorola Photon Q also. One of the issues I have with it though, is that it is a Motorola .

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