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Can you guys post some benchmarks. Thanks
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I got a poor 2200 from Quadrant
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I got 2042 on one run
I just benchmarked my 2011 Kindle Fire and it got a 2016 in quadrant. OMAP 4460 is supposed to be 20% faster clock than OMAP 4430(1.2ghz v 1ghz) so I would assume Kindle Fire HD gets 2400ish but that's only hypothetical.
6100 from Antutu benchmark. Really, pretty good for 1.2
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
Okay. Regardless, an score like that is quite mediocre
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
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Also, those benchmarks don't compensate for the OS - a vanilla version of the OS (Nexus 7) will run faster than one that is less efficient (KFHD). Real world is what matters to me. I bought a KFHD after playing around with one at Best Buy. I don't know if the review units had flaws, but I have experienced no stuttering or slow down. It is much smoother than I expected.
Also, popping flash on there was a breeze, as is sideloading any apps (minus google apps, but including YouTube) that you want.
Overall, a pretty great product. For me it simply came down to if a vanilla Android experience offset the HDMI out (awesome), dual wifi antennas, stereo (and usable) speakers, better screen (that isn't even an opinion if you've seen the screen), double the storage, etc. of the KFHD.
I don't think the difference is that night and day, when comparing the features, although I am happy you are happy about it. The only reason I truly want one of these is because my nexus had been having a lit of issues.
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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4460 vs 4470
ncvikingx97 said:
And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD is by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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And all the while chips are getting faster and faster.
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ncvikingx97 said:
And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Is the difference between the two that extreme?crazy
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Now 6700 from Antutu benchmark. Sweet.
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Most of the literature I've seen says the KFHD 7 has a 4460 with an SGX544 (not an SGX540). Is this even possible ?
It would be great if it was. I don't think amazonvwants to desperate the two in hardware to the extreme of what others are saying
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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Just curious, what does it mean it is running as a virtual machine? Thank you
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I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
Windiddy said:
I personally think that Nvidia shield is better than this one. With the shield, you can stream your PC games on it.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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Yes I need NVIDIA graphic card in the PC tower.
for me, streaming steam games isnt the deciding factor...it 's that project shield has tegra 4 which is claimed to be 2.5x faster than ouya 's tegra 3 with 45% less power consumption AND that a new version of ouya will be available by next year....all that aside, i believe project shield is a lot more portable than ouya...unless you manage to link ouya to your phone 's screen or something, you 're gonna need an actual screen .-.
Why would I want to stream games? I'd need the hardware in my PC to do so and at that point...why am I not gaming on my gaming desktop? The logic doesn't follow with that at all.
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Exactly! For me my android phone and Bluetooth controller are good enough for "mobile gaming". The ouya will make a good xbmc streaming device. But that's about all I'll use it for.
The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
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The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
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Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
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Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield
New i think if i would have to decide nvidia project shield and Ouya i would take the project shield
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Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S
I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
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Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
mancur said:
Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.
Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):
CPU: +33%
GPU: +25%
RAM: +20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
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Yeah, I knew it was significantly faster than teh Tegra 3 tablets, but the claim was that it would be superior to the Tegra 4 speeds... I believe it'll be fantastic for Tegra 3.
uoya is the best
bigd5783 said:
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
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Or SNES to GameBoy.
Still, though, I'd like to have both. Simply for the reason that one is on-the-go gaming, and one is console gaming.
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Well, i agree with you. Remember that you' ll need an NVIDIA graphics card to do that "magic" trick :cyclops:
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in some weeks there will be a streaming service available with which you don't need any nvidia graphics card in the pc...just a tegra 3/4 device and you can play pc games also on android devices
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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You can also stream games from your pc to ouya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
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Yes because of splashtop or demo version of nvidias streaming service or so
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I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?
I would be interested to read people's opinions also on this. I currently use two Xbox 360's with media center but Android sticks could be a nice alternative.
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I will use the Android TV stick mostly for watching movies on XBMC, and I also want to know if any of them is capable of playing 1080p. So what'd you choose at the moment? I found the Imito MX2, and maybe the MX808 or 809, but what do you find the best stick at the moment?
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I chose the iMito MX2 due to it's speed and the fact that it had Bluetooth built in. I have two, and the only real problem I've had is that the play store can't seem to differentiate between them... I'm assuming I'll have to hack a serial down the road in one of them to fix it. It plays 1080p though, and is fast enough to handle dead trigger and retro arch with a gamepad, and blows my raspberry pi out of the water in xbmc smoothness. There are likely better sticks out now due to the quad cores, but these work really well for me.
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Best for the Price$
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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I just bought MK 802 III for 58 dollars and It looks and works fantastic. It is dual core with 1GB ram. I read some reviews about it and most of them were positive. Android app to control it makes it better. I played some HBO Go movies and they were flawless and very clear. I also tested some 1080P videos from youtube and they works without any issue. On netflix I could see how the video started choppy but then turned into clear HD. I havent played with it much I think I am going to like it.
I also used FAVI smartstick, it was nice too but couldnt play 1080P videos. HBO go was low quality as it is single core.
cesar33 said:
Let us make this by price category.
Best under $50
Best between $50 and $100
Best over $100
My top choices:
Best under $50
MK802II single core, lowest price (best supported, most ROMS, lots of firmware options)
MK808\MK808B dualcore (well supported, stable, fast, factory provides updates) tabletuser.blogspot.com and see benchmarks LINK
I own the Uhost U1A and it is the same as the MK802II, but don't own the MK802II. I do own the MK808B and believe for the $50 price it's the best choice for an Android Stick.
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there are some with 4 cores, i dont know if some have 2 g of ram
http://www.asiapads.com/es/4-2-andr...7b-rk3188-quad-core-2gb-ram-8gb-rom-2363.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/04/tronsmart-mk908-quad-core-android-tv-stick-performance-video.html
http://liliputing.com/2013/01/cubox-mini-computer-goes-pro-with-2gb-of-ram.html
http://liliputing.com/2012/12/s21h-android-4-1-mini-pc-features-2gb-of-ram.html
Hi all, from my search the new quad cores look like they could actually be useful HTPC replacements.
They run the new RK3188 Chip, which means 1.8ghz (Quad core) CPU and MALI 400 GPU. I am still waiting for some custom ROMs and XBMC compatibility tests, but so far they look very promising.
From the reviews I've read/watched the MK908 looks like having a much improved WIFI reception, Bluetooth 4.0 and 2GB of RAM (most new sticks with the RK3188 have 2GB of RAM).
So let's see which Android pc stick will get the developers support , and then choose accordantly.
The competition is on.
Does anyone know if XBMC for android supports live/recorded TV? I have a QAM tuner in my HTPC running WMC right now.
Android stick for mothers day - need advice
I need to order an android stick and I need it fast, but I need product advice. I'm buy it for my mother for mothers day so that she can stream video over netflix and from my Plex server in my home a couple hundred miles away. I want her to be able to Skype rather seamlessly and since she's not very good with computers, less peripherals = better gift. Please advise on everything that I need to get her setup. I'll need either a stick that has a camera built in or I'll need a compatible web cam to buy separately from the stick. Same goes for the keyboard. I'd like it to be already set at or upgradeable to android 4.2 so that she can use it for Miracast. Please let me know:
- Which stick I should buy
- Recommended airmouse/air keyboard w/ mic and speaker if necessary
- Recommended/compatible wifi and/or USB webcam to clip onto the TV
- Recommended USB hub if I need one
If possible recommend devices that can be bought off of Amazon or somewhere in the US so that I can get it by Saturday. If not that's OK too I guess, it'll just be a bit late.
Thanks
Jim
I'm using UG802
Specs:
- 1.6 GHz Dual-Core (Rockchip 3066)
- 1 GB RAM
- 4 GB FLASH
- microSD Slot ( up to 32 GB)
XBMC works like a charm with the Finless ROM.
IMO, the HD+ is the best overall tablet for all but heavy 3D gaming due to size, display, battery life and low sleep bleed.
It would be IMO super great to have the current tablet we have with 2GB ram and an S800. Imagine that. Heck, I would be happy with the S600 that my S4 uses. The only other change would be to rid of the special cable and have microUSB for charge/data and a micro HDMI out.
So close, IMO to the "perfect tablet".
HD+2 with S600, 2GB ram, micro sd & USB, hdmi out, 32GB flash with $300 seems possible. S800 version for $350. I might be $50 under reality for either....... Yep, I am.
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IMO, the HD+ is the best overall tablet for all but heavy 3D gaming due to size, display, battery life and low sleep bleed.
It would be IMO super great to have the current tablet we have with 2GB ram and an S800. Imagine that. Heck, I would be happy with the S600 that my S4 uses. The only other change would be to rid of the special cable and have microUSB for charge/data and a micro HDMI out.
So close, IMO to the "perfect tablet".
HD+2 with S600, 2GB ram, micro sd & USB, hdmi out, 32GB flash with $300 seems possible. S800 version for $350. I might be $50 under reality for either....... Yep, I am.
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I would buy it in an instant!
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IMO, the HD+ is the best overall tablet for all but heavy 3D gaming due to size, display, battery life and low sleep bleed.
It would be IMO super great to have the current tablet we have with 2GB ram and an S800. Imagine that. Heck, I would be happy with the S600 that my S4 uses. The only other change would be to rid of the special cable and have microUSB for charge/data and a micro HDMI out.
So close, IMO to the "perfect tablet"....
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The tablet is < 1 year old. It major for reason for being was a super reader with a optimum book size and screen display comparative to an iPad, the biggest seller. The Nook HD+ may have been close to the perfect eReader. Google Playstore and the quantity of apps weren't available. The cost was higher as introduced but in accordance with competitive tablets.
A few months ago, developers right here turned the HD+ (HD too) into a top of line tablet that can run the latest version or Android. B&N was ripped out. Hummingbird and Ovation became a better value when B&N reduced the price in June. I don't think that B&N realizes any value from the developments here. Certainly they're not encouraging the sale of books because the Nook Reader app remains not compatible in the Playstore... even though it runs without problem.
Look at the some of the things we're trying to fix. Amazon Kindle app, battery charging with not stock charger, geolocation via WiFi, keyboards, USB Drives, faulty? chips for FStrim, WiFi transfer, custom screen resolution, and whatever I've missed. Which of these items were even considered with the original design?
I don't think there will be a hardware package like this one for the $.
$99
Nah for those prices Id go for another tablet. I got the nook because i dont need a $300 tablet, the nook is great for its price
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I would like standard USB as well and still have it slow charge over USB.
High speed charging isn't possible over USB (at least from what I've heard) which is
why the ipad has that big connector type as well.
There is a new Nook or set of Nooks due to be announced before December, now
that the new ceo of B&N has revoked the previous ceo's roadmap to do third party manufacturing.
It will be VERY interesting to see what the new specs will be and the prices.
FYI, you basically just described the new Kindle HDX.
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FYI, you basically just described the new Kindle HDX.
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Yeah but it doesn't have Google play. And I have had problems with kindle fires in the past so I don't know if I would buy one again.
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FYI, you basically just described the new Kindle HDX.
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But less storage and no sd slot. Both are significant misses. That and the proprietary market thing. Most of us would not own the Nook if no Google market. I would not without the sd slot as well.
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But less storage and no sd slot. Both are significant misses. That and the proprietary market thing. Most of us would not own the Nook if no Google market. I would not without the sd slot as well.
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Yeah, but there will most likely be a CM build for it not too long after launch, which gives it full Android.
But I didn't know about the lack of SD, as I hadn't looked too closely at it yet. But I think they are making a 64 GB version.
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IMO, the HD+ is the best overall tablet for all but heavy 3D gaming due to size, display, battery life and low sleep bleed.
It would be IMO super great to have the current tablet we have with 2GB ram and an S800. Imagine that. Heck, I would be happy with the S600 that my S4 uses. The only other change would be to rid of the special cable and have microUSB for charge/data and a micro HDMI out.
So close, IMO to the "perfect tablet".
HD+2 with S600, 2GB ram, micro sd & USB, hdmi out, 32GB flash with $300 seems possible. S800 version for $350. I might be $50 under reality for either....... Yep, I am.
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I wouldn't mind if they kept the special cable tbh, as coming from my Nexus 7 v1 and a Samsung S3 both charged via micro-usb the connections have worn away and the cable can drop out easily.
Saying that if it was swapping for something else like wireless charging with the charge already in the box then I would go with that and micro-usb
Just a couple of changes for the perfect Nook HD+
I love my HD+ but would love to see some changes if BN does a tablet again for Christmas or licenses the brand to a third party like Google did with the Nexus and Asus.
1. A micro USB port for charging with OTA and MHL (HDMI out) enabled.
2. Use of an A15 chip like the Exynos 5420, 5410 Tegra 4, Snapdragon Krait 800, or one of the upcoming ones from other vendors like Renesas or even MediaTek. This will enable running Ubuntu 13 Tablet smoothly on it if we so desire. For those that don't know already Ubuntu have as a minimum requirement the use of at leaset a dual core A15 (not A9) chip to run their tablet OS and a quad core A15 to use the Ubuntu PC functions of the OS.
3. Other materials to make it lighter.
2. Maybe... just maybe a camera for Skype conference.
They'll need to include the following:
At least one half decent camera (not having this before was a painfully obvious error)
Dual band Wifi
micro-USB and HDMI
To compete with Amazon they'll also need to have specs that give as much or more bang-for-buck as the Kindle HDX, at a minimum
Resolution: 2400x1600
300ppi
Cpu: 2Ghz quad
Ram: 2GB
... and a couple of additional sensors would be nice (gyro, light)
I was thinking more as a Nook design with the noted changes, but not sold by B&N as part of their proprietary market or crummy OS effort.
Similar hardware design from a non closed system.
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If you're talking about them leaving out Google Play Store, I doubt they'll make that mistake again.
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I can't see that changing. They might improve it, but I'd expect it to be basically more of the same.
Perhaps you meant that you'd prefer another company to take the Nook design and improve it?
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Perhaps you meant that you'd prefer another company to take the Nook design and improve it?
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Yep, since Nook would still probably be locked down, or would have to be higher price to make money on units. Also the crummy UI would still exist.
If a company took the Nook HD+ and made these changes:
1. Standard 4.3 OS with not UI bolt-on.
2. Micro usb instead of proprietary
3. S600 or S800 chipset
4. 2GB ram
5. 32GB flash
I would pay $350 for that
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-announces-shield-tablet-k1-refreshed-model-new-low-price
Smart move I guess. Throw it in a different box and pretend it's new. Sounds like an htc stunt. This makes sense though, considering the battery issue with this model.
http://m.androidcentral.com/nvidia-...pdate-shield-tablet-k1-original-shield-tablet
But as of now we are confirmed for marshmallow probably after the holidays, which is all I really care about. I gotta have that marshmallow!
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Its technically still one of the best android tablets for CPU and GPU. I would of loved to have seen it with the Tegra X1 but with the tablet market not really strong, even apple is having issues with the market, I can understand not updating it.
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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As long as you know how to change the system DPI to 240 then its great, I personally hate the stock DPI that they put on it, with the stock DPI it literally just feels like an enlarged phone. But as soon as you change it to 240 then its great.
NoOneLt said:
It's truly seems to be one of the best performing tablets at this price point, i'am very interested in it vs Nexus 9, what would be your opinion? Only thing i'am concerned in is screen ratio, how good it is for e-book reading? And is there enough estate for general browsing? I own some pretty crappy Chinese 10" Onda tablet and looking for an upgrade. Though i don't know if i would use Shields gaming environment to the max.
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I use mine for reading books, specifically pdf books of networking materials, and it works really well for that. The screen is amazing for comics. The tablet is a gaming beast and not much can touch its gpu capabilities. Admittedly, I don't do much gaming but I did do a playthrough of ff9 with ePSXe without a HITCH. It's without a doubt a gaming beast when it comes to android devices.
A small comparison lists of the things that are different between Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet:
Nexus 9 vs Shield Tablet
Screen
Nexus: 8.9in, 2048x1536
Shield Tablet: 8in, 1920x1200
Expandable storage
Nexus: None
Shield Tablet: up to 128gb microsd card
Cpu:
Nexus: 64 bit
Shield tablet: 32 bit
GPU:
Same
Ram:
Same
Speakers:
Shield tablet wins hands down
Android updates:
Nexus still has at least 2 more years of android updates
Shield Tablet is getting marshmallow for sure but the next one after is more than likely but not guaranteed.
Fair warning though:
The custom roms on this device have audio issues that happen randomly and it can be annoying. I haven't found a rom that don't have this issue, some are worst than others. There hasn't been a solution to it either from what I've seen.
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The nexus 9 has a better resolution, 2048x1536 vs the 1920x1200 on the shield. The CPUs are a 64bit 2.3Ghz dual core on the N9 and a 32bit 2.2 Quad on the ST. I haven't used an N9 so I can't really add anymore than that.
The shield has an SD card slot, front facing speakers, and wide screen. I read ebooks all the time on the shield and think it's perfect for that. The nexus might get slightly better battery life, but not much more. I was deciding between the two and picked the shield because with the thinner screen I can type very well with my thumbs. My 10.1 tablet is just too big to type on. I imagine with the wider screen the nexus would have that same problem. I would buy the shield for 300 bucks right now if I didn't own one so at 200 it's a steal.
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And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
Probably when all tablet and smartphone are x64...they, maybe, developera start to create app that take advantage of x64 CPU...
But there is the possibility that they start to use gpgpu even on smartphone and this is an advantage for tegra hardware
Nobody knows...
Yeah it's hard to say. But at 200 bucks the shield blows away anything in its price range. And I much prefer the wide screen and front facing speakers. I spent a lot of time debating the nexus and the shield in my head and I just didn't want a 4:3 and I really wanted an SD card slot.
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And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
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They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
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They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
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Thats the thing, most of the users of this tablet use it for gaming. Its a shame the new tablet doesn't have 64bit, but at least it is worth the price.
According to this benchmarks seems like if i would not care about Shield PC streaming or exclusive game in pure performance Nexus is doing better? As i see single core almost 2x better and this would be utilized most in applications not optimized for multi-core? And multi-core is around the same level...
But maybe Marshmallow on Shield could bring another results.
I wait for Shield Tablet 2
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
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Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
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That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
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Nexus 9 put more pressure on GPU with higher screen resolution and use a dual core CPU
Anyone who has the K1 can you answer some questions for me?
Does your bottom speaker move? i noticed earlier that I can make it click by pressing on it lightly :S also is there only 1 speaker behind each grill? the speaker on the top I can feel the vibration of how loud it is but the bottom one I can't.
Think it's faulty but that's why i'm asking.
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