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last month i just selected X10i instead of HTC Desire, now Desire just announce Android 2.2 released. Why i can't find any Android 2.1/2.2 Rom for X10i ?
Because SE dont wanna upgrade to 2.2. They just sheduled an upgrade for 2.1 at Q4 this year afaik.
We'll see an official 2.1 ROM in the near future, before the end of September. 2.2 will take longer.
Currently a lot of dev work is being put in towards cracking the bootloader and with any luck it should be fixed relatively soon. So no custom ROMs yet but the bootloader is being worked at and we have an initial version of CM6 ready to go.
As for picking the X10 over the Desire I can only go with my personal experience and say that you made the right choice. I've used both and the X10 has a better screen and is sexier overall imo. So even though the Desire will get updates earlier the X10 isn't too far behind and worth the wait.
So is it fair to say that if the X10 comes to ATT in usa the X10 will become much more popular and therefore gain many more devs? I dont like the iphone but I must say the iphone dev team really knows their ****. ( Not saying that the devs here dont but i think there are many more devs for the iphone which is why they crack new FW within days usually.
I hope that is the case. Developers here are hard working and cracking is not one man's job. We need groups of developers to crack it. More users == more developers working on that particular phone.
I bet soon we will see some big jump movement forward towards 2.2
Thanks to our Dev team.
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So is it fair to say that if the X10 comes to ATT in usa the X10 will become much more popular and therefore gain many more devs? I dont like the iphone but I must say the iphone dev team really knows their ****. ( Not saying that the devs here dont but i think there are many more devs for the iphone which is why they crack new FW within days usually.
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Guys, I too agree that iphone devs do get the jailbreaks and other stuff out the door rather quick, but that is apple, this is sony. It should be safe to say that X10 devs have a worthy adversary. If you recall, xbox was cracked pretty soon but the ps3 took about 2 years. Sony is good, but I put my faith in X10 devs. It's only a matter of time but they'll get froyo on our fones am sure
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Guys, I too agree that iphone devs do get the jailbreaks and other stuff out the door rather quick, but that is apple, this is sony. It should be safe to say that X10 devs have a worthy adversary. If you recall, xbox was cracked pretty soon but the ps3 took about 2 years. Sony is good, but I put my faith in X10 devs. It's only a matter of time but they'll get froyo on our fones am sure
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Well i dun mind waiting but let hope they dun take 2 years to crack too>< hahaha
really hope 2.1 faster come out. i been checking xda every min to see any new on it=)
Sony Ericsson and Sony are two separate companies.
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Sony Ericsson and Sony are two separate companies.
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..but not too far away Sony organization
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..but not too far away Sony organization
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
Android 2.1 is coming to the X10 Family Sony Ericsson in October or November
Well we heard about upgrading the X10 for a long time. Then I was informed by source inside SE that it will have an update from Android 2.1 and X10 to X10 Family, the whole family.
Here’s what a source inside the Sony Ericsson Accessory wrote us:
“From November 2010 the software will be X10 Mini updated and now supports the Android 2.1. This update can also be done on all X10 mini bought before that date. ”
The update on Android as well as leaving the unit more fast will still cause images to become very best. Currently, the X10 can only display 256 000 colors. With the upgrade they can display up to 16 million colors.
We talked with the Communications Department Sony Ericsson and confirmed that:
“The X10, X10Mini and X10Mini Pro will be updated in October. ”
“After the update they can record HD video.”
Note:I don´t want anyone ilusion but let's wait for the sony ericsson first to comment so I just hope not to get a guy of this fool for news.
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Well i dun mind waiting but let hope they dun take 2 years to crack too>< hahaha
really hope 2.1 faster come out. i been checking xda every min to see any new on it=)
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Likewise, am checking it too every now and then so I don't miss it. Sony is supposed to provide the update to 2.1 by September or October 2010, I hope our devs can get froyo on our fones before that, it'll be a shame to lose root with sony's update.
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
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I dunno what deal does sony and ericsson have, but one thing is for sure, the merger did provided some good looking and powerful fones off of it.
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
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Ericsson GA628 was my first phone to. Great phone with a rock solid build.
i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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my ga628 is still lying around somewhere and i had 2 use it awhile ago
gaolinde said:
i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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Yeah, that's sort of how I imagine the cooperation works. Sony lets Ericsson do what they're good at, making great phones, while they take care of the design and multimedia bits.
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i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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i agree, but am just another sony fan. i believe any two companies that can ever be on same level of great designs and eye candy stuff in any product are apple and sony.
Im starting to get fed up with the x10 being so slow. Heading into the direction of getting a Nexus One. Should I calm down and wait or switch?
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Android 2.1 is coming to the X10 Family Sony Ericsson in October or November
Well we heard about upgrading the X10 for a long time. Then I was informed by source inside SE that it will have an update from Android 2.1 and X10 to X10 Family, the whole family.
Here’s what a source inside the Sony Ericsson Accessory wrote us:
“From November 2010 the software will be X10 Mini updated and now supports the Android 2.1. This update can also be done on all X10 mini bought before that date. ”
The update on Android as well as leaving the unit more fast will still cause images to become very best. Currently, the X10 can only display 256 000 colors. With the upgrade they can display up to 16 million colors.
We talked with the Communications Department Sony Ericsson and confirmed that:
“The X10, X10Mini and X10Mini Pro will be updated in October. ”
“After the update they can record HD video.”
Note:I don´t want anyone ilusion but let's wait for the sony ericsson first to comment so I just hope not to get a guy of this fool for news.
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Actually, its coming near the end of September from the info that I have. Also, it will not be the last update we see this year, there will be another major update end of the year (though not platform upgrade). My guess is 2.2 is coming in Q2, not sure of the timeline, but coming for sure
PLEASE NOTE: THIS THREAD IS CREATED BECAUSE I SINCERLY LIKE SE AND NOT FOR BASHING SE. IF YOU WANT TO TROLL OR BASH SE CREATE A NEW THREAD
Dear Sony,
I am one of your avid Fan. Right from the beginning I was using SE phones only. To Mention a few I have used F500i, J230, K750, W810i, K810i, W980, W705 and now X10. So as you can see I was using SE right from 2004. I can say “If you have Once used Sony Erricson, you will always use SonyEricsson”.
Let me be very clear. I love you so much. I have defended SE in many forums from many trolls and iSheep bashers for many years. I did this because I love SE and I believe you will always gives me what is best out there.
But off late you are not living up to your fans belief. What the is wrong with you?
The last master piece from you was W810i. After that all your products disappoint me. K810i, W910i and W980i all of them were total disappointment for me. Off late all your products follow a certain approach, you will announce a very good product and then there will tremendous delays in bringing it to the market, after that i will have many software bugs and hardware failures. So before the product becomes complete it will become outdated..
If you refuse to believe I will give you proof.
Do you know W810i was announced in Feb ’06 and availability was Mar ’06.
K810i was announced in Feb’07 and availability was Apr 07.
W980 was announced in Feb’ 08 and availability was Aug 08.
W705 was announced in Oct’ 08 and availability was May 09.
Satio was announced in Feb’09 and availability was Nov ’09.
And Xperia X1, X2 and X10 every kid knows its delays and bugs.
What happened to you SE? There were long delays. Even after delays none of these phones lived up to its hype ( W980,W705, Satio and X10). You were the first to announce many technologies (8MP, 12MP camera, snapdragon with android phone, even 4" screen) but you were the last to bring it to the market with sky high prices. Where is my Old SE? where I can get all latest tech in a budget phone? Where are you SE?
And Like a Crown for all your failure, the X10 2.1 update. When other are pushing to bring 2.2 for their flag ship device, you cant even bring 2.1 to your Flag ship phone. Instead of bringing 2.2, you are back porting live wallpaper and 5 home screens to 1.6.
WHY THE HELL YOU ARE RE-INVENTING THE WHEEL?
Stop wasting your precious resources in back porting things. Move more resource to bring 2.2 to X10. If you cant alteast please open the bootloader.
X10 had everything to make you success but you missed it.. Good Design, Good Hardware (at Nov '09 nobody had this hardware) and Good Name (You have loyal fan base) and Perfect time (Think if it had been released during Christmas time).
X10 could have been your own iPhone or Droid. It could have been your golden egg but you missed it. What going on in your mind SE? If I can think all these, cant the armani wearing million dollar salaried EO's think? Have you lost it?
We have defended you so long SE but you are now disappointing us more. You even embarrass us by saying you turned down google (X10 as Nexus one would have been epic). Please don’t cheat us more SE. We love you but there is a limit for our patience. If you keep cheating us then Even God (I believe he is there) cant save you.
All I can say is please bring out Froyo update for X10 soon and with no bugs (We dont want 1000 new features we just want Bug less phone). After all you are a more talented company and you certainly deserve a second chance like Moto.
Please SE don’t disappoint us again and save yourself from bankruptcy. Please Make us Believe
---- A sincere, beaten, disappointed and embarrassed Sony Ericsson Fan .
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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iead1 said:
A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language. - Removed
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class. -- Removed
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2 - What I ment was they are back porting 2.1 features to 1.6 - Ambient time app
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets. But Total cost of ownership for a not so high end is high compared to other high end phones. This will be the thought of a average guy
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market. I agree. If they could had made things perfect like releasing with 2.1 and in december, they could have sold Millions in other countries too
Good day sir!
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Good day to you too sir
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Another point god or gods do not exist, therefore offer no threat.
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
IF some one could send this to SE CEO, I would be glad. Or If you can pm me his mail-id, I will send it myself.
Thanks
No offense but what do you think you reach by sending this kind of letter to a CEO? No matter which company he is leading, this really is a "straight in the dustbin" letter for those managers...
Again no offense, you wrote down what you think, but I want to bet he don't read till the half of it, to try that out, you might put in the last sentence something about him having an affair with a dead horse, if you dont get anything back, I proved my point....
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Gotta agree with PollPixx.
imo they don't go past the subject of e-mails... snail mail is a thing of past.
moreover they don't go over this stuff personally but their PA's etc do... separate the junk out and send in the "really important" stuff... but only god knows what that is (apart from them )
Looking away from the language, it is a fine letter to SE.
I have also only had SE phones private, starting with the old
Ericsson 318, Erisson t68
t280, t610, k530, k750, k810, k850
c905
w595, w715, w760
x10, x10 mini, x10 mini pro
My 3 kids have all had SE W595 and now they all have X10 mini.
Also i have only used SE for work in many years, currently i have a x10 mini pro...
At work it have been me that have decided what phones we have bought and used for the last 3-4 years, so i have been the main reason that we have only bought SE phones...
- that is over 250 SE phones all together, at work...
(I know that it is NOTHING in the big picture looking from SE headquarters, still it must count for something)
In this answer i just want to ad my own dissapointment thoug...
The main problems is that the big X10 is missing the FM-radio, missing the better headset connection and missing the one finger zoom, while the two cheap small X10 mini models have those things.
What is that about SE ?
Why have you decided to make 3 different X10 series phones, and then at the same time make the TOP model, the one with the weakest features ?
I am really dissapointed with you SE, the lack of updates, the missing features in the X10 top model.
From (i think it was) the old T610, or was it K750, and all the way up to now, my SE phones have allways had FM radio build in, and that was for me a loved feature, then you decide to release the X10 without FM Radio, and after that you again decide to put in FM radio in the mini´s ??
I know i didn´t read close enough in the specs when i bought my X10, but i really was expecting that there would be FM radio in an SE phone, and offcource there would be in the top model, no question about that. What a dissapointment !
An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
I find it strange that good working features that SE implement in your phones, is removed again from newer phones.
Features that actually IS the SE brand, features that we learn to love and use every day, you decide to remove.
Why ?
I don´t get the point in making that huge effort to make a few nice new features like timescape and mediascape, and becource of those features you have been left behind, and are currently stock on Android 1,6, and right now we all are waiting for S/E-Android 2.1,, ONLY Android 2,1 when other companies like HTC are moving away from Android 2.1 and on to Android 2.2...
S/E why not release Android 2.2 fast and be the leader in the marked.
Then let people decide for them self IF they want the S/E signature-features like TimeScape and MediaScape when you have those ready later.
Just make new features avalible from your fine PlayNOW system just like you did with CreaTouch.
Why have you at the same time decided to lock down the bootloader of the X10 when Android is a brand new OS you are just learning ??
- release the bootloader now, and look what happen, learn from it and then when you are actually doing a better job coding the OS than other DEV´s on the www, you can decide if you again will lock down bootloaders in your future android phones.
At the moment it make no sense at all, not to let your dev-team learn all they can about what can be done with the hardware you have made.
The hardware is actually really great, and solid build, it is "only" the software that is the problem...
Now i move on to the strange thing about wide range of current phone models you have on the marked.
Why that many, is that really nessesserry at all, really ??
Why not make an effort to be the absolutly best there is on a mutch smaller range of phones, only focus on a few models, perhaps only android phones, as you have said that you want to be world leaders in Android powered phones in a few years anyway.
As i see it you only need one X10 model more to have a complete set of phones, so there will be at least one that souit everyone.
Add one more X10 mini and make it with an old style slide out t9 keyboard.
At last.
I have also been thinking about jumping over to an other brand, and perhaps also look for other phones next time we need some at work, as i am that dissapointed with SE...
But private i find my self thinking that i perhaps just should wait and get the X12 when that is released...
Can i really be that stupid, REALLY ???
- dispite my dissapointment with SE, really ???
SE you are SO lucky that you have a big and loving fan base...
At work i KNOW that SE have the best hardware and the lack of features i mentioned here is no problem in work use...
Again SE you are REALLY lucky that you have a big loving fan base...
Just DON`T dissapoint us anymore !
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I believe he is there But no Offense (Original post edited to reflect my view)
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He? Why would a god need to have a specific gender? They would have no use for it.
Anyway i dont think religious dribble should be in an email like that to a company. Makes you look like a bit of a fruit cake.
pshdo said:
An other lack is that tracker (step counter) that was build in i think all the newer phones eg. W595 and W715, now with X10 i again see a loved feature removed, why ?
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I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
At least they all look familiar and have similar sounding names - X5, X8, X10, X10 mini, X10 mini pro. SE are trying to satisfy each segment of the market, just like their competitors HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Nokia do.
@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
Please dont embarass yourself. Your grammar is atrocious.
How about buying an AD on newspaper, and then I'm sure the SE CEO will see this.
sony in general is a big comany, my family has been buying sony things for at least 20 years (got an old and really old stereo which still works o.0)
they always had the best things in the marker, we even say if it's a sony is good
in the past I never used SE, just used nokia or motorola but when i saw the x1 i just felt in love, but when I knew that no wm 6.5 would arrive to it i was so pissed we paid a lot for it to get nothing more, same applies for the x10
i know companies want to get more profits but where's the customer's satisfaction? they use to think that is better to have loyal customers for a long term instead of just having a lot for few months (kinda the thing is going on today)
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@iead1
Is there something you're not telling us? Like who you work for.
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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I work for a local board of education, in the mountains of rural Kansai Japan.
Want me to take a picture of my desk with my X10?
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does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
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does that mean SE JP HQ??? xD jk
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I wish! I'd be making more money than I do now!
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I won't bother replying to the rest...but, my X10 has one.
It's called the Android Market, you can download anything, including pedometers.
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Yes, but those on marked is far from working as good as the one in eg. w715...
- and if you was actually using it, you would know that ;-)
Anything ?
- then throw me a link to an fm radio application for the x10, or to one finger zoom perhaps, or to any of the other things that the x10 don't have, that the mini's and all the old SE phones have... *LOL*
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
I think that the live wall paper and home screens reference has to do with the SE Japan release of Ambientime which has 5 home screens, pseudocode live wallpapers and a new lock/unlock swipe which is more animated.
That app looks like work that was done as an assessment of the phone's potential to do live wallpapers. It's sort of interesting even if it makes the phone laggy and lockup.
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A couple points:
- If you ever want to be taken seriously in any capacity, refrain from foul language.
- Also, refrain from referring to things as "iCrap". Shows a lack of class.
- Live Wallpapers and 5 home screens are default 2.1 features, not being backported from 2.2
- Pricing depends on region. In Japan, the United States, and several other countries, the X10 is the cheapest or one of the cheapest smartphones available. It's free in many markets.
- The X10 is Docomo's highest selling smartphone of all time, and is poised to become their best selling phone of the year/ever. Japan is the world's second biggest market.
Good day sir!
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don't know if it'll install but here you go
Sony Ericsson to become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony and integrated into Sony's broad platform of network-connected consumer electronics products
The transaction also provides Sony with a broad IP cross-licensing agreement and ownership of five essential patent families
Ericsson to receive EUR 1.05 billion cash payment
Sony and Ericsson to create wireless connectivity initiative to drive connectivity across multiple platforms
Ericsson (NASDAQ:ERIC) and Sony Corporation ("Sony") today announced that Sony will acquire Ericsson's 50 percent stake in Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB ("Sony Ericsson"), making the mobile handset business a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sony.
-Excerpt from the press release.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/
Opinions??
Hoping this to be a great decision.
Lets Wait and Watch...
I hope they don't get rid of the green logo. its cool! Overall I think it is wise decision considering Sony with its potential should have been at least at par with other brands if not above. they make great phones. Delays and poor marketing are the only things that are holding them back.
Here in India, (where SE became no.2 for a brief period of time) nobody has heard of the phone Xperia arc. Whereas Galaxy phones hoardings and adverts are all over!
Now few patent licenses coming directly under their thumb may speed things up. Also we might see better integration of Sony's multimedia and gaming with the mobile business.
All the best Sony!
Just hoping to have even better Xperias.........
Better get your bootloaders unlocked before sony pull the page...
I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.
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I hope the phones still look just as sexy and have better features than now. If it goes worse then I dont even know what ill go for . I only like sony phones.
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Me too!!!!!......
Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
Finally ...
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Sony has confirmed today that they will acquire Ericsson’s 50% stake in the company for EUR 1.05 billion in cash ($1,47 billion US dollar)
The separation won't be finalized, however, until January 2012, pending regulatory approval.
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Oh yeah. Im wondering what will happen to the rumored phone Sony Ericsson Nozomi. Will it be scrapped altogether or just a rebranding when they announce it?
Will there be a logo and font revamp? Hmm.
I remembered one of their great camera phones, the K750! From the year 2005 I think.
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Haha. Just like the removal of the other OS support for the PS3. Lol.
I don't think it will affect the phone because most probably they will keep the employees and designers so they will still produce the same quality phones. They might redesign the logo most companies does that to spread the word
i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?
I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.
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I am very skeptical about this. There was a reason why both companies joined forces in 2001. Sony SUCKED at making mobile phones!! And Ericsson was not doing too well either.
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To be fair they only made a couple before. They bought a brand instead of building one internally and now they are fine. Good news is the designs have been all Sony and probably will stay top tier.
hopefully we will see a killer phone with sony OLED screen with Bravia Engine wonder when will that day will come =__=
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Agree. If they have pulled the page, and done. Ur not be able to unlock ur arc.
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dubist said:
i hope that our Xperia phones will be still supported from Sony :S
And now what about ICS 4.0 ?
Will Sony release it or does they change the Ideas on how and what to Update ?
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Sony will bring good things to us.. wait and watch!
I guess we will get great integration, great adds, great drm ....
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I do believe it's going to great step for us, Sony have many partners and they work great with them
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in the post below it seems as sony is saying that it wont be making anymore phones
Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/sony-buys-out-ericssons-stake-in-joint-venture-assumes-ownersh/
Hello people,
I want to give my thanks to Sony Ericsson, because they have done what other manufacturers failed to do.
First of all, they are the only manufacturer so far that has pushed verizon into releasing kernel sources, and they are probably the only manufacturer that doesn't get pushed around by Verizon.
The reason (IMO) that we can't unlock bootloaders for CDMA phones Via SE's site is because Verizon just buy the hardware with the source and shift and change. If Verizon say that they will not allow unlocking of bootloaders, then it will not happen, because after all it is the Verizon Xperia Play and Sony Ericsson have little control over it.
Thanks for promising an ICS upgrade for us, even though our phone can be considered quite low spec compared to other devices. I don't get the X10 users at all, they say that Sony Ericsson is bad because they won't update the X10 to ICS even though HTC won't update there Desire S, Incredible S, DHD, Thunderbolt which have only been released since late last year.
Also, having a member on behalf of SE on this forum and part of the dev community is awesome, I had to blink a few times to read what the article said about the OFFICIAL ICS BETA.
Does any other manufacturer give you a way to unlock your bootloader, push verizon to release sources, and upgrade a single core £150 phone (£200 when I got it) to ICS?
To the whining x10 users who are ranting at SE for not giving them an ICS upgrade -> be thankful they gave you Gingerbread, how old is the x10 now? 18 months?
Google have a policy IIRC that a phone can only updated if it is less than 18 month old (why the first nexus did not get 4.0)
And thanks for bringing us so many Xperia Play optimized games! Almost 2 are released every week!
Keiran
You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
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You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
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Yes but at least they have changed. At least they listen to the community and released gingerbread for the x10.
Dropping prices has got Sony written all over it, look at the PS3, launch was £425 and now you can get a 250GB slim one for £275, around 40% less.
Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
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I think I've said it elsewhere, but when I first got into Android I had 2 phones I was eyeying.. the Xperia X10 (great hardware but was limited to 1.6) or an Acer Liquid E (almost as good hardware, running 2.2) - went with the Acer. Since then SE's really stepped up their game, and I'd say this phone is second only to the Nexus line for upgrades. The Acer didn't even last a year.
Now, all I want is an Xperia Play with a non pitiful amount of built in storage and I'd be happy. Dual Core wouldn't hurt either
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
mehdi.moha said:
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
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Well Sony did buy out Ericsson so we might see some Sony made games
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Ty se, fu $ony
SE initially releases heavily priced products and hardly supports dated phones in the past,so I hope now things change for the better in SE(Or should I say,Sony) so consumers like us keep our faith in Sony,especially with Xperia Play.Adding to that fact,I've always loved SE's ROMs which are very nice in my opinion.
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swebosdev said:
Ty se, fu $ony
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Agreed.Can't believe they want to buy it out as their own.I hope this doesn't make things worse.
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I love Sony guys i must say i had a satio before my xperia play i expected more of satio bu they disaspointed me in that. But the xperia play makes it all good again. And now sony will the boss of the phone market of se i think we will see amazing things on xperia play
Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
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steelmm said:
Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
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Lol maybe you should since I keep hearing problems about the customer service.
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there was someone @ XDA, he's xperia play had some issues he sent it to se but they didn't repair it so he sent it to Sony it self and he just got a new one.
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I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
:/ good and bad...
i as one have been an x8 user and still am but i will thank Sony Ericsson for learning from their mistakes by leaving their phones outdated ...(x8 was released with 1.6 when 2.1 come out and 2.1 was out for x8 when i think it was 2.2 maybe 2.3) the ply was sent out with 2.3 at the time of release it was up to date... thank you SE
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
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ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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paxChristos said:
ICS = Ice Cream Sundae = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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I thought it was ice cream sandwich ?
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In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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drali500 said:
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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I also expected that atlest arc s will get jb
Lot of us won't buy sony again. I'll stick to samsung or maybe LG Nexus 4. A lot of people ask me for advise when buying a new phone, Sony is banned from now on.
Only Sony if they release acceptable hardware with unlocked bootloader. Probably LG or Nexus for me next year.
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this is what i think
i dont know more about this
but as i have noticed and i have seen as weel
compair to SAMSUNG and LG sony is giving at list 2 updates as well as if you take a close look at UI and hardware design then you will realize that sony is making such nice handset of the level where in samsung LG cant even think
one very true incident
in my family most of people are using sony and you all guys wont believe they all have even not update to ics they has to say that its more then enough
so if you think keeping general customer in hand then they all are satisfied
but you for development crezzy genies like you all guys sony should at list provide 4.1.1 or 5.1 to arc s as that is the most and the last expensive handset by SE(sony ericsson)
here i have just shared my opinion i may b wrong or right but this is what i think
I don't like sony because...
- Screens are not so good imho
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for example
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM.
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Why I hate Sony:
- Screens are all 100% CRAP! arx Screen has 20% Contrast compared to S3, looks really unsharpen
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for exsample
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM - than Ultimate HD came LOLz
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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1. I said it look unsharpen AND low contrast. I hate sony screens
2. Ok. I dropped my iPod 3 times at same day and no probs at all
3. Yes, very high colored Pixels (dont remeber word)
4. Yeah
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My Mighty WhiteHOX has arrived
Goodbye SONY & welcome HTC
Good luck with white hox!
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Well about the ppl comparing arc s and samsung galaxy s 3 are u ****ing kiding me? ?? 4 cored phone vs single core ? with around 1 and a half year defferance ?Sony was never really good at developers phones.Sony/sony ericsson was good at making beautiful phones and thats what arc is and now xperia T.In my opinion arc s gives all the productivity the main stream user needs.If u were looking for a developer's phone u should have bought nokia n900 or HTC HD 2 and test whatever software u want.I still have friends that are all new software inthusiasts and they are still using hd 2 with ICS on it.So... pls stop crying about sony not adding more and more updates to there 2011 phones.U cant ever compare arc s to sg s2 because s2 got 2 times the proccesor power and if u bought atnt version it got even more soooo ***** please
I just cant believe all these post.
- Sony has a really nice screen, beatiful real color, not amoled that are just strong shiny fakes color, Only for the blacks are better. And outside with the sunlight i dont have problem with my Arc, except sometimes but trust me, all other phone would have the same problem.
- My Arc fell from my bed or desktop thousand of times and it has only a uncolored edge and some lines behind the cover if u look really closly. My bro dropped his Nexus S once and the glass got broke. Its just luck, but for sure isnt bad our screen.
- The camera is something awesome. A bit buggy? well still 1000 better than my friend's Galaxy Nexus.
- Audio quality and all Media services are fantastic. I love the Walkman, the Album, and Video. Are really well done. Listening music with the earplugs makes me enjoy about my choise and i dont need some stupid iPod or Mp3 player.
- Design, i fell in love with it.
- price/quality of the Arc is perfect.
- ICS yes it was buggy but at least we had it, lot of other mobile didnt even get it and are stuck with Froyo or GB, so u can go back to GB to have a smoothest phone and have their same experience and dont have ICS.
And well the outdated hardware is true, but then if u prefer the last quadcore dont complain about the prices. I payed my arc S same price of how much the Galaxy S was. Glad i choose this. and honestly if i have to pay 150 euro for a ****ty phone with 300MB of ram, 600Mhz a 3Mpx camera and 3.5" screen, or 700/800 euro for a quadcore , 4.7" screen and God knows what other useless feature, i prefer 300 euro for such a good quality.
Next time feel free to buy a useless quadcore (they are smartphone...playing N.O.V.A or FB dont really need a 1.5GHz quadcore) that come with ICS, will get JB and LK and then in the middle of 2013 or beggining of 2014 will be the same story again. Samsung/HTC/LG dont update our phone, they suck, never again.
Only the Ram its the only thing that new phones, and also old one needs.
Im sad like all of u, but they need to sell new phones, they dont gain anything by upgrading. Maybe in a future would be nice if they give us the source, but nowdays people changes phones every 6 months, like people who had bought GSII and some months after the GS III and as soon the GS IV will come out, they will buy it. There are always people who will buy the last product, so they just care about creating new things for new consumers. Sony already updated the ICS series. Buggy? then as i already said go back to GB like most of all other 2011 phones.
+1 For Gogobaba behind me even if Arc S kicks GS II ass. For normal phone usage (is not playing games. We arent iPhone users, we buy SMARTphone not Gambeboy) the dual core doesnt show any difference, maybe 0.5 second faster.
BTW my first phone was a Samsung Omnia II: WM 6.x and Samsung top mobile. 1 weeks after that i bought it,all omnia's owner find it out that we werent going to get WP 7.
Did i said Samsung suck or never again windows? no i just enjoyed my phone.
As above, people moan but they're talking about what is now technologically an old phone....
People grumble about lagging and other trivial things but mine for example, flies! Admittedly through the help of some good developers....those who complain surely haven't had it from release because there are some crazy expectations. If you can't afford a fancy top line handset, At least don't moan about the best your budget can afford. I've had one from release and still now there's not anything on any other phone that I can't live without...
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I ditched Sony when I found out downgrading your arc two versions lower bricks the battery gauge.
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Oh yea and I couldn't unlock my bootloader for some reason, just wouldn't let me from the Sony website.
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I totally agree with you. So many butthurt people =j
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I can't believe people buy Sony phones expecting to get a powerhouse, my sister owns a Xperia Arc and she doesn't even knows she can update to ICS (she doesn't even knows what that is) and she is 100% in love with her phone, the reason why I like and will stick to Sony phones are the following:
-Polished, simple and unique UI (I'm looking at you, TouchWiz and however LG's UI is named).
-Beatiful designs. (Kind of personal here, but I mean, SG2 is just a rectangular phone with a button on the center compared to the NXT series).
-Good camera. (at least on my X10a, MK16a and SK17a).
-Unlike other companies, they prove hardware doesn't means good user experience (check iPhone 4 performance [good] and 2011 Xperia performance on GB [good] and LG Optimus Black performance [ugh])
There may be some more reasons I forgot, but seriously, Xperias are very good offerings all around, that's why my next phone will be either Xperia V or P, I mean: good designs, good prize (at least on Xperia P), good camera and good performance.
Besides, I got Galaxy Note 1 with my new contract on March and I really didn't liked it, screen was pretty nice and camera didn't dissapoint, but performance wasn't as smooth as Samsung was claiming, it also got pretty hot, HELL! when I got out of the store the day I got it, it got so hot I had few blue paint on my hand! ._. I sold it in 1 week and got my Xperia Pro and a Laptop with that money. <.<
I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
I think sony still better than samsung as the devices are less brickable hardware-wise.
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I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
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Couldn't agree more
But I was expecting JB atleast for Arc S.
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Atleast, Arc S should have been updated, no?
Oh lord and even for the newly released ph we have to wait 4-5 months more, when it was supposed to come with JB. And no new about NXT series. Uff, I dont even like Samsung and HTC, and now only way is "Nexus".
Too bad Sony, you asked for it.
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I think Sony users are very lucky and should be happy with their phones. I had an Arc, absolutely loved it. Jumped ship to an LG Optimus 3D and it doesn't even have ICS yet, much less any talk about JB (screw the Open Handset Alliance). Sony ROMs give one of the cleanest, stock-like experiences unlike almost all the other manufacturers which bundle crap like Touchwiz, Optimus UI, Sense etc, which imo is one of the few reasons why the 2011 Xperia devices are able to run ICS so smoothly. I really don't see why people are already complaining because there isn't any phone running JB that is single core AFAIK, especially when the phone is admittedly rather old.