last month i just selected X10i instead of HTC Desire, now Desire just announce Android 2.2 released. Why i can't find any Android 2.1/2.2 Rom for X10i ?
Because SE dont wanna upgrade to 2.2. They just sheduled an upgrade for 2.1 at Q4 this year afaik.
We'll see an official 2.1 ROM in the near future, before the end of September. 2.2 will take longer.
Currently a lot of dev work is being put in towards cracking the bootloader and with any luck it should be fixed relatively soon. So no custom ROMs yet but the bootloader is being worked at and we have an initial version of CM6 ready to go.
As for picking the X10 over the Desire I can only go with my personal experience and say that you made the right choice. I've used both and the X10 has a better screen and is sexier overall imo. So even though the Desire will get updates earlier the X10 isn't too far behind and worth the wait.
So is it fair to say that if the X10 comes to ATT in usa the X10 will become much more popular and therefore gain many more devs? I dont like the iphone but I must say the iphone dev team really knows their ****. ( Not saying that the devs here dont but i think there are many more devs for the iphone which is why they crack new FW within days usually.
I hope that is the case. Developers here are hard working and cracking is not one man's job. We need groups of developers to crack it. More users == more developers working on that particular phone.
I bet soon we will see some big jump movement forward towards 2.2
Thanks to our Dev team.
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So is it fair to say that if the X10 comes to ATT in usa the X10 will become much more popular and therefore gain many more devs? I dont like the iphone but I must say the iphone dev team really knows their ****. ( Not saying that the devs here dont but i think there are many more devs for the iphone which is why they crack new FW within days usually.
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Guys, I too agree that iphone devs do get the jailbreaks and other stuff out the door rather quick, but that is apple, this is sony. It should be safe to say that X10 devs have a worthy adversary. If you recall, xbox was cracked pretty soon but the ps3 took about 2 years. Sony is good, but I put my faith in X10 devs. It's only a matter of time but they'll get froyo on our fones am sure
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Guys, I too agree that iphone devs do get the jailbreaks and other stuff out the door rather quick, but that is apple, this is sony. It should be safe to say that X10 devs have a worthy adversary. If you recall, xbox was cracked pretty soon but the ps3 took about 2 years. Sony is good, but I put my faith in X10 devs. It's only a matter of time but they'll get froyo on our fones am sure
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Well i dun mind waiting but let hope they dun take 2 years to crack too>< hahaha
really hope 2.1 faster come out. i been checking xda every min to see any new on it=)
Sony Ericsson and Sony are two separate companies.
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Sony Ericsson and Sony are two separate companies.
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..but not too far away Sony organization
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..but not too far away Sony organization
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
Android 2.1 is coming to the X10 Family Sony Ericsson in October or November
Well we heard about upgrading the X10 for a long time. Then I was informed by source inside SE that it will have an update from Android 2.1 and X10 to X10 Family, the whole family.
Here’s what a source inside the Sony Ericsson Accessory wrote us:
“From November 2010 the software will be X10 Mini updated and now supports the Android 2.1. This update can also be done on all X10 mini bought before that date. ”
The update on Android as well as leaving the unit more fast will still cause images to become very best. Currently, the X10 can only display 256 000 colors. With the upgrade they can display up to 16 million colors.
We talked with the Communications Department Sony Ericsson and confirmed that:
“The X10, X10Mini and X10Mini Pro will be updated in October. ”
“After the update they can record HD video.”
Note:I don´t want anyone ilusion but let's wait for the sony ericsson first to comment so I just hope not to get a guy of this fool for news.
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Well i dun mind waiting but let hope they dun take 2 years to crack too>< hahaha
really hope 2.1 faster come out. i been checking xda every min to see any new on it=)
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Likewise, am checking it too every now and then so I don't miss it. Sony is supposed to provide the update to 2.1 by September or October 2010, I hope our devs can get froyo on our fones before that, it'll be a shame to lose root with sony's update.
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
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I dunno what deal does sony and ericsson have, but one thing is for sure, the merger did provided some good looking and powerful fones off of it.
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From my knowledge SE is pretty much just the old Ericsson but with some Sony bits tacked on. Afaik they're still based in Sweden and haven't changed much. I remember having two cellphones from before the merger and the Sony phone was utter ****e while the Ericsson still works to this day. It's an old GA628 from the mid 90s, I don't use mine anymore but my grandad still hangs on to his. They're built like tanks, they just won't break.
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Ericsson GA628 was my first phone to. Great phone with a rock solid build.
i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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Yeah, that's sort of how I imagine the cooperation works. Sony lets Ericsson do what they're good at, making great phones, while they take care of the design and multimedia bits.
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i think sony played a major part. don't think Ericsson old day can design such amount of sexy looking phone.
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i agree, but am just another sony fan. i believe any two companies that can ever be on same level of great designs and eye candy stuff in any product are apple and sony.
Im starting to get fed up with the x10 being so slow. Heading into the direction of getting a Nexus One. Should I calm down and wait or switch?
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Android 2.1 is coming to the X10 Family Sony Ericsson in October or November
Well we heard about upgrading the X10 for a long time. Then I was informed by source inside SE that it will have an update from Android 2.1 and X10 to X10 Family, the whole family.
Here’s what a source inside the Sony Ericsson Accessory wrote us:
“From November 2010 the software will be X10 Mini updated and now supports the Android 2.1. This update can also be done on all X10 mini bought before that date. ”
The update on Android as well as leaving the unit more fast will still cause images to become very best. Currently, the X10 can only display 256 000 colors. With the upgrade they can display up to 16 million colors.
We talked with the Communications Department Sony Ericsson and confirmed that:
“The X10, X10Mini and X10Mini Pro will be updated in October. ”
“After the update they can record HD video.”
Note:I don´t want anyone ilusion but let's wait for the sony ericsson first to comment so I just hope not to get a guy of this fool for news.
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Actually, its coming near the end of September from the info that I have. Also, it will not be the last update we see this year, there will be another major update end of the year (though not platform upgrade). My guess is 2.2 is coming in Q2, not sure of the timeline, but coming for sure
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New accessory for our phones:
h t t p://ww w.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/
Bonus: shows the x10 running 2.1 at around the 1:10 mark on the video.
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New accessory for our phones:
h t t p://ww w.engadget.com/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview-acts-as-a-1-3-inch-remote-control-for-you/
Bonus: shows the x10 running 2.1 at around the 1:10 mark on the video.
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Great and cool accessories to have!
The Sony Ericsson LiveView( TM ) will be
available in stores from Q4 , 2010.
The Sony Ericsson LiveView(TM ) is also available
in one of the Sony Ericsson Experience Packs .
reason for the 2. 1 update delay confirmed.
Don't think this would be a reason for the delay... they've said that it's a generic device that will work on most phones running 2.x, so it's not specific to the SE UXP...
Sony Ericsson makes up for delayed updates by giving all X10 owners a free Liveview.
A man can dream...
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Sony Ericsson makes up for delayed updates by giving all X10 owners a free Liveview.
A man can dream...
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loool... i will be very happy about SE
Nice peice of tech. Want one! Oh yeah, it wont work yet.... bummer...
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"It is our ambition to be THE Communication Entertainment brand and this includes being the most open mobile phone brand on the market. We believe in openness and offering consumers a wide range of applications to choose from. We will continue to develop accessories to ensure we play a major and groundbreaking role in the market and design innovative and exciting accessories for all platforms, including Android" said Mikael Henriksson at Sony Ericsson Extras.
Between ^this^ comment and Sony Ericsson's CEO saying "Big Surprises" and the subsequent delayed upgrade, i'd think we're owed at least a free bootloader!
this marcus hansson guy could probably leave his x10 unattended for a while in some public place, if he had an incentive to do this
(im assuming that this X10 has 2.1 installed to run this bluetooth toy)
Pretty awesome... except, it seems like the resolution is far lower than the new iPod nano, and it's way thicker.
Blah, because I just bought the new iPod nano.
Edit: Am I the only one who doesn't like that thick notification bar in 2.1? :\
I have a question, is it multitouch? LOL
I like the idea of it, i prefer the bluetooth proximity alarm on there. That could be of use too.
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Buy What?
I am so close to sell my x10. I don't need any accessories from SE that will work with android 2 when i' m stuck with 1.6 for months.
They loose my respect at the moment, and I hate these consumer tricks.
I can barely hear my x10 ringing. Maybe that's why they come up with these crap.
Se can make it 256 colors so you will need LiveEye (their new glasses accessory) to see it' s screen. All these will work perfect and give the best out of them with Android 2.2.1... But too bad... You will already have your new HTC (with android 20.1) and X10 will be obsolete. LOL.
So basically, it's made by Sony Ericsson, but you can't use it on their flagship Android phone - the Xperia X10. #facepalm
Will be released when 2.x update appears... Being abstract again aren't we?
You could see this as a confirmation though. Either it is sure that 2.x will be released or it is sure that this device will never hit the market.
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Or that device is for the x12
I would guess this gadget is the reason for 2.1 delay. Probably some production problem that put everything else on hold.
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It is crap marketting not thought out.
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Major- phone update
Minor- crappy gadget
Why would they delay the major for the minor, dont make sense(pardon the pun) I'm guessing they are haveing problems adding all the bloatware to it.
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Major- phone update
Minor- crappy gadget
Why would they delay the major for the minor, dont make sense.
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Let's all over simplify things like SE does..
Major - phone update - (doesn't make one red cent)
Minor - crappy gadget - (possibly makes a few bucks)
Sony Ericsson haven't exactly been timely with there updates to the x10 neither have they been efficient with the ROM's they've made so personally I think I'll switch to HTC but I was wondering whether anyone will stick with Sony Ericsson for there next phone?
There hardware is great, I'll give them that but I feel its ruined by bad software that looks pretty but isn't efficient enough for daily use. I think if they can really get up to date and prove that they can keep up to date with other manufacturers then maybe I'll consider getting something like the supposed Zeus phone but as the Xperia series stands at the minute, I don't think I'll get another Sony Ericsson.
Ha! I highly doubt my next phone will be an android device all together.
I suggest every1 who don't like SE try another phone 2 realise how beautiful x10 really is.....
Big picture big porn... think abt it... hahaha joking.....
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Absolutely not for reasons which are too time consuming to explain in this post.
Maybe. I guess it depends on a few things. My primary consideration is if their next phone will have AWS (and not on contract). My second consideration(s) would be how they treat the X10 now (yay for MT!).
Pretty much it breaks down like this:
• If the X10 stays at 2.1 then there's a ~5% chance that I'll go with another SE
• If they update the X10 to 2.2 then their odds rise to ~65%
• If they update the X10 to 2.3 then their odds are a good 99.9%
• Unlocked bootloader? Probably won't happen but if it does then it's a solid 100%
Se may have been slow to update to 2.1. But look at how pathetic samsung is at updates
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Sony E , yes. Android No
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I think I'll stay with Sony Ericsson.
But I don't know if I'll change my opinion in the future, when an other brand releases an awesome phone.
But at the moment I say: Sony Ericsson 4-ever
Very much doubt it, only went se as I was impressed with the camera on my last se phone (k850i), but the x10 camera is very disappointing! Also the call volume almost makes the phone unusable! (was also low on the k850i)
x10 is fail in my eyes..
Never have i seen a more clever money making scheme.
it depends on the fait of My X10.
2.2 or 2.3 will refresh everything....+volume in call
My next phone will probably be a SE one.
Only had SE's over the last couple of years.
I doubt if it will be android again though.. I also still have the SE Aino wich is Symbian based and of course it has less capabilities then android but it is so much more stable!
Mine is a work phone, but I do get final say. I would stick with SE IF they get their act together with the updates.
In call volume, I really don't have a problem with it, my hearing isn't great and I don't have a complaint about it.
No I don't think my next phone will be a SE, because off lack of the support and slow reaction to the new versions of native Android OS. They maid a wonderful accessory (Mw600)to replice the missing radio, but this too don't work in full functions like display names of the caller & song titles.
In conclusion SE products have a grate design and do less than u expect.
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I think that my next phone will be from SE. Although the updates are slow, I've never had any problems.
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Which one you guys think is better? And would buy?
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really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.
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really too early to say... need more real life user experiences to see how they perform in the real world..
That said.. Arc for me - cos it looks proper bo.
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Will have to agree with the ice-man...
It's too early to talk about, however I'm going with the Arc, since my experience with Samsung's software was the worst
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Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
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Make sense since it has 2.3 gingerbread so no one ***** about the update anymore lol. I wish Sony Ericsson was good in update as htc
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HTC has the upper hand since they started first with Android, "HTC Magic G1", so I think they are more experienced than Sony Ericsson, but with time I'm sure SE will catch up hopefully
And you can't stop people from complaining, some complain about 2.4 already
I'll pick Arc for sure. The design is way better than any other competitors. Looking into the released vedio of Arc, the software development capability of SE can be trusted. I think they just need some very little time to catch up.
Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.
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Sony Ericssons new software design makes sure there is as little 'critical' integration as possible, so they can release updates to the OS or their own apps without having to worry too much about other things breaking. Also, developer Arcs running 2.4 have been spotted, so even while the Arc -and- 2.4 aren't out yet, SE is already working on it.
I personally also think Google really likes Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson is one of the few companies that decided not to release any phones with Windows Phone 7. Samsung and HTC both are also targeting Windows Phone 7 markets. Because of SE's focus on Android, I think they realize they have to do their absolute best now, and I also think Google is slightly favoring them when it comes to developing for the latest version of Android.
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Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??
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Is that just your opinion - or have you experience, contacts within SE or Google that have said this to you??
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Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^
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Just my thoughts, carefully formed by what I read and see about Google and Sony Ericsson, and further backed up by pure logic ^^
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I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.
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I remember reading a while back google approached SE to design their nexus phone and SE was not interested.
Imagine if SE's Arc is actually Nexus S? I think it would have been more successful than the ugly design done by Samsung.
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I don't even think they tried, to be honest. Sony Ericsson has always tried to differentiate with their very own style of software. Every Sony Ericsson-device ever released has a very distinct Sony Ericsson-feel, if you know what I mean. With a Nexus phone they'd have to completely drop all software changes and just provide the hardware. They couldn't add some Walkman or Cybershot stuff, no BRAVIA engine, nothing, since it'd all have to be stock Android. And that is something Sony Ericsson just doesn't even want to do. (It's also why they ditched Windows Phone 7)
Atrix, of course
Imo : None of them.
If you got a 1ghz Smartphone atm,dont change it.
Why ?
1)Arc has also a 1ghz CPU like the others,yes it will be a bit faster but nothing from the other world.
2)SGS2 and Atrix sound very sexy but they are very expensive.
3)Quad-core Tables coming into August,and mobiles phones a bit later. So you'll gonna have to refresh phone again in 4-6 months =p
I am sticking to the X10 for now,im gonna skip the "Dual-Cores" and wait directly for the quads if i buy a new phone...besides...a mobile phone with quad-core cpu's....where the hell are we going?. Im seeing a Mobile Phones crisis coming...people are not gonna be able to keep up buying phones one after another if they are outdated in less than 5 months...jeesus...
That said,the SGS2 has more than double the power of the Arc,so that tells it all.
Respect.
Looks like all the QQ did some good. For x10 owners at least.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/¸
P.S. Probably has something to do with the x10 bootloader being bypassed and the good progress devs are having with loading custom kernels.
yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.
Yeah,we already know that
nope we already got 2.3..through xda dev
Meh! Again we are left high and dry.We didn't get dual touch update either and now this too.
Why can't we get both x10 and x8 ,2.3, because SE doesn't have resources. And here we have J providing gingerbread to entire xperia series with help of some devs!
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No, we have no such plans. We have had to prioritize our resources and have therefore focused on delivering the upgrade to XperiaTM X10.
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They have to prioritize their team to provide 2.3 for only X10. While most work to bring CM7 to X10/X10mini/X8 has been done by only 2 devs: jerpelea and racht. Such a shame to SE.
What a ****ty news, I feel like smashing my phone in S.E. face... hope no S.E. worker gets in my sight cause I am mad as hell! I mean come on, I was ok with the 2.1 on all current xperia line but this ? WTF is with this discrimination, F*** THEM!
Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.
if they won't update x8 to 2.3 or 2.2, i won't buy another SE phone !!! never !!! and i think that i'm not the only one
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Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.
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i hope se have some time to read this thread
I will break forum rules now...
SSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIITTTT
SONY IS A SHHHHHIIIITTTTIIINNNNGGG ****!!!!
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I love my X8 but...
Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)
Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson
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Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson
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on sonyericsson lauch blog writes no plain,not we will not upgrade x8 and minis just no plain
the real idea is to bypass bootloader so sony ericsson will update x8
Well mates, I think it's time to make some noise in SE blogs, this is not only a discrimination, this feels like your older brother was given by it's mother a bigger and better toy to play with, and we, the younger sons, can play with lego for eternity. Ah... This is a lack of respect, lack of sense, we do not only need that upgrade, we need recon. We are costumers, we spent our money buying the phones, we are SE future, our opinions and thoughts will count in next sales. We can't just be left behind, I know SE certified some firmwares recently, but, if they were thinking to upgrade us, they would have done it now at same time as X10.
Well it seems this is a way too give further security to bootloader, and remove kexec exploit. There's no downgrading after this. It's a terrible choice (my thought). So, we (x8,x10mini/pro owners) don't really need this upgrade since we have J & racht & so many great developers contributing, and I have so much to thank them for the hard work, precious time they take to do it, and for sharing it with XDA community, well I can say, with all users around the world. We are very near to reach total freedom.
Regards
That are not full working roms
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I hate SE businnes strategy...
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I hate SE businnes strategy...
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Me too but worst is that their profit fall 20% from 2010 and they are so bad to custumers,realy and one more thing why they put so expensive phones in sale,x8 and minis will sell better with better support because they cheap but for 100 $ more i will buy htc wildfire.
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Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)
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Cmo eu te compreendo, a mim foi exactamente igual.. xD
I made exactly the same mistake.. :/
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yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.
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Sony want this upgrade, and maybe this software update will also bring an bootloader upgrade, which will give us no chance of Xrecovery or Root, So, i stay with XDA
Hello people,
I want to give my thanks to Sony Ericsson, because they have done what other manufacturers failed to do.
First of all, they are the only manufacturer so far that has pushed verizon into releasing kernel sources, and they are probably the only manufacturer that doesn't get pushed around by Verizon.
The reason (IMO) that we can't unlock bootloaders for CDMA phones Via SE's site is because Verizon just buy the hardware with the source and shift and change. If Verizon say that they will not allow unlocking of bootloaders, then it will not happen, because after all it is the Verizon Xperia Play and Sony Ericsson have little control over it.
Thanks for promising an ICS upgrade for us, even though our phone can be considered quite low spec compared to other devices. I don't get the X10 users at all, they say that Sony Ericsson is bad because they won't update the X10 to ICS even though HTC won't update there Desire S, Incredible S, DHD, Thunderbolt which have only been released since late last year.
Also, having a member on behalf of SE on this forum and part of the dev community is awesome, I had to blink a few times to read what the article said about the OFFICIAL ICS BETA.
Does any other manufacturer give you a way to unlock your bootloader, push verizon to release sources, and upgrade a single core £150 phone (£200 when I got it) to ICS?
To the whining x10 users who are ranting at SE for not giving them an ICS upgrade -> be thankful they gave you Gingerbread, how old is the x10 now? 18 months?
Google have a policy IIRC that a phone can only updated if it is less than 18 month old (why the first nexus did not get 4.0)
And thanks for bringing us so many Xperia Play optimized games! Almost 2 are released every week!
Keiran
You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
Logseman said:
You forget that beforehand, Sony Ericsson left the phones pretty much out of date. Xperia X8 never got dual touch even though it was possible (and it was done). Sony only updated the X10 to Gingerbread because of the outrage caused by the infamous "our Eclair is better than Froyo" tweet, and leaving those users without Froyo at all. Sony is atoning pretty nicely, but its previous record wasn't all that fancy. Keep in mind the iPhone 3GS, which is fairly in the range of a Xperia X8, and its update record.
Besides, the Xperia Play didn't exactly launch at 150 pounds. It launched at thrice that sum, and it was heavily discounted because of poor sales.
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Yes but at least they have changed. At least they listen to the community and released gingerbread for the x10.
Dropping prices has got Sony written all over it, look at the PS3, launch was £425 and now you can get a 250GB slim one for £275, around 40% less.
Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Sony Ericsson have made the best phones for as long as I can remember. I don't know why anyone would buy a non-Sony Ericsson phone.
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I think I've said it elsewhere, but when I first got into Android I had 2 phones I was eyeying.. the Xperia X10 (great hardware but was limited to 1.6) or an Acer Liquid E (almost as good hardware, running 2.2) - went with the Acer. Since then SE's really stepped up their game, and I'd say this phone is second only to the Nexus line for upgrades. The Acer didn't even last a year.
Now, all I want is an Xperia Play with a non pitiful amount of built in storage and I'd be happy. Dual Core wouldn't hurt either
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
mehdi.moha said:
i forget what SE have done to us on on X10 series ....
but now , they proved us that all the mistakes gone .
i want to say " THANK YOU SONY " instead of SE !
i'm a gamer and i have all gaming console Xbox360 , PS1 ,PS 2 , PS 3 , PSP and now xperia play !
sony really , really , really proved that they respecting to customer , just compare Sony's games on PS3 to other consoles ...
anyway ,
i think Sony's CO. strategy effected on ericsson , and now , i/we are really waiting for that day !
the day that sony sevelop its exxclosive and fantastic games on xperia play!!
just imagin : god of war - little big planet - resistance ...
i wish we could ask SE that why they did not developed any exclosive game yet.
we just run global android games on our xperia play
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Well Sony did buy out Ericsson so we might see some Sony made games
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Ty se, fu $ony
SE initially releases heavily priced products and hardly supports dated phones in the past,so I hope now things change for the better in SE(Or should I say,Sony) so consumers like us keep our faith in Sony,especially with Xperia Play.Adding to that fact,I've always loved SE's ROMs which are very nice in my opinion.
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swebosdev said:
Ty se, fu $ony
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Agreed.Can't believe they want to buy it out as their own.I hope this doesn't make things worse.
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I love Sony guys i must say i had a satio before my xperia play i expected more of satio bu they disaspointed me in that. But the xperia play makes it all good again. And now sony will the boss of the phone market of se i think we will see amazing things on xperia play
Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
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steelmm said:
Why praise Sony Ericsson the play station is a great idea but the aftersales warranty sucks
I have recently sent my play back for repair and it was refused and I have to pay for the return postage for my device which is not fair. Also I found my handset was scratched by them on the side by a knife inwhich I am upset about because it was in mint condition before that as it was zagg protected and the knife mark did even penetrate the zagg sheild I am p???ed
Yeah the phone is brilliant but consumers beware aftersales repair is the worst ever even apple replaces jail broken handsets!!! Old with new swap policy Sony does not.
I have now fixed my Sony maybe I should work for them I do a better job!!!! Lol
God bless
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Lol maybe you should since I keep hearing problems about the customer service.
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there was someone @ XDA, he's xperia play had some issues he sent it to se but they didn't repair it so he sent it to Sony it self and he just got a new one.
jgregoryj1 said:
I came from a Motorola phone (never again will I make that mistake) and I absolutely love this phone. Its my first android phone where I truly feel that SE is doing all they can for their customers. I mean I was totally floored yesterday when I saw that Verzion allowed SE to release the source kernel. I mean HTC and Verizon are all cozy but even then HTC doesnt really allow for kernel sources. Maybe for other US carrers but not verizon. This is needless to say a huge reason why I am thrilled to have my phone. I can do with it as I please and SE is right there doing what they can to keep their customers happy and on the ball. I mean our single core phone is getting ICS, thats awesome. So I would also like to thank Sony Ericcson for their truly amazing work. I know last year they did not have a good track record but they are seriously trying and doing what they can to change their image and I wouild like to show my appreciation and gratitude for all they have done. Thank you Sony Ericcson.
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
:/ good and bad...
i as one have been an x8 user and still am but i will thank Sony Ericsson for learning from their mistakes by leaving their phones outdated ...(x8 was released with 1.6 when 2.1 come out and 2.1 was out for x8 when i think it was 2.2 maybe 2.3) the ply was sent out with 2.3 at the time of release it was up to date... thank you SE
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Could you or someone else fill me in on what ICS is and also what the kernel release means?
I have to agree tho that this phone sold poorly. Heck even the accessories for it are on huge discount and sale because nobody wants them
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ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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paxChristos said:
ICS = Ice Cream Sundae = Android 4.0
Kernel sources mean that sufficiently development oriented people (like DooMLoRD or kerianftw) can develop custom kernels to flash to the play to expand usability of the phone (overclocking, cwm built into kernels, etc.) (I'm also looking into building a custom kernel, but I'm having issues that I'm asking DooM for help with)
My $.02 on why this phone hasn't sold to well it's that it was marketed as a niche phone, rather that a phone first with ability to play games second... that and what look like lackluster specs (single core compared to dual core, even tho that really didn't make a difference, yet) put people off to this phone
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I thought it was ice cream sandwich ?
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