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The Battery in my mini behaves like it is worn out. That is, it drains very quickly and charges very quickly. Just to be sure that I have a working phone if something unexpected happens, when not in use the phone is on the cradle charging. I have a second battery on order and am hoping that the new battery will perform better than the first.
I have NoData installed and all access to 3G is blocked unless I start wifi or bluetooth. Otherwise there is nothing exceptional about the way I have the phone configured. I do check the weather twice a day and run the stocks option, and I do use it to listen to music with bluetooth stero head set maybe an hour a day.
I hate to think that this is all I can expect. If so, I will always have a battery freshly charged battery in the cradle and change batteries daily.
Howz everybody else doing? Are you getting the same sort of performance from the battery that I am?
i have same problem. i think it's a problem in current roms..
last week i saw a rom with this title "a new unlock rom by fixed battry life problem" but i don use that cuz i jus use original roms
My battery is good enough. One to two days of use.
I use the phone a lot for calls, mobile excel, off line information search (such as dictionary, tranlators, encyclopedia), calendar scheduling, gps navigation (thru navicomputer), and taking notes everyday. A few to moderate number of text per day. Plus occassional online social stuffs, music, photo browsing, and ebook reading. (When i lock down to some nice ebook topics, i can read for about an hour or two.)
With all these, the battery can typically last for more than a day. Although i haven't really tested if it can last a full 48 hours. Very rarely, i can run down to a dangerously low 20% or 10%. But never experienced an empty battery shut down yet.
For all this, i'd say it's good enough. Not spectacular. But not disappointing.
I'm particularly impressed with the battery performance under hours of gps use.
I don't really know if the gps or the battery is the great performer. But i'm quite satisfied with the performance in this department.
In fact, the acquiring of gps signal is so good, coupled with its great stamina, i decommissioned my dedicated gps device and removed it from the car, and then use HD mini as my primary navigation device.
4/2/2011 and i want to talk about battery life too...
I got my HTC hd mini with the latest maryone WWE rom, but
1st, never charges up to 100% but only 90%
2nd, I have no CHT installed
3rd, with some messages send and recieve, battery falls to 40% in 3-4 hours...
What the hell is happening?...
Looks like it's defective.
bart3385 said:
Looks like it's defective.
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lol
i answered to his problem already in other thread,he is using automatically backlight,and on 70%,i'm not surprised battery is dying in few hours of using...
you are still answering to people that they have defective devices i see
tzacapaca said:
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i answered to his problem already in other thread,he is using automatically backlight,and on 70%,i'm not surprised battery is dying in few hours of using...
you are still answering to people that they have defective devices i see
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I'm using automatic backlight. My unit does not behave that way.
Whatever settings you have, you should be able to charge to 100%. Not being able to charge to 100% is a sure sign that there's something wrong with the battery.
I'm trying to help this guy find answers, using his description, and supplying the most probable explanation.
I see nothing wrong with that.
I don't answer "defective device" to each and every question in this forum. Try to check. I got a couple of hundred posts. I'm sure "defective device" doesn't show up in all of them. Not even half. Not even one fourth.
I try to help with opinions from my experiences.
You try to help with yours.
Each of us contribute.
No need for antagonistic sarcasms.
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I'm using automatic backlight. My unit does not behave that way.
Whatever settings you have, you should be able to charge to 100%. Not being able to charge to 100% is a sure sign that there's something wrong with the battery.
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You try to help with yours.
Each of us contribute.
No need for antagonistic sarcasms.
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lol guys i thank both of you for your help. I turned off the auto backlight adjustment and i will see how it seems...
So thank you both.
About the 90%, i think is about the ROM or the Taskbar. In previous roms i had not that problem...
bart3385 said:
I'm using automatic backlight. My unit does not behave that way.
Whatever settings you have, you should be able to charge to 100%. Not being able to charge to 100% is a sure sign that there's something wrong with the battery.
I'm trying to help this guy find answers, using his description, and supplying the most probable explanation.
I see nothing wrong with that.
I don't answer "defective device" to each and every question in this forum. Try to check. I got a couple of hundred posts. I'm sure "defective device" doesn't show up in all of them. Not even half. Not even one fourth.
I try to help with opinions from my experiences.
You try to help with yours.
Each of us contribute.
No need for antagonistic sarcasms.
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1.it can be software problem(custom ROM which he is using)
2.telling is defective is not help(in my opinion)
3.after a quick search i found at least 30 of your posts with "defective" word
http://www.google.com/custom?q=bart...=2855279901&boostcse=0&oe=ISO-8859-1&filter=0
4.it wasn't sarcasm,just a funny(coincidence maybe) that when i see your posts i see you are telling to guys they have defective Mini's .
p.s. chill out man dont take it so serious,people make jokes sometimes,if you dont accept that just tell me...
so my guess was right...ROM fault!
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1.it can be software problem(custom ROM which he is using)
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4.it wasn't sarcasm,just a funny(coincidence maybe) that when i see your posts i see you are telling to guys they have defective Mini's .
p.s. chill out man dont take it so serious,people make jokes sometimes,if you dont accept that just tell me...
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I think it is software problem cause the max 90% charge is happening since i upgraded my rom again at first days of January...
PS. Yeah people take things very seriusly some times...
Life is wonderful guys
redeye998 said:
I think it is software problem cause the max 90% charge is happening since i upgraded my rom again at first days of January...
PS. Yeah people take things very seriusly some times...
Life is wonderful guys
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Life is a B*** ,so F*** it )))
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Life is a B*** ,so F*** it )))
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Haha, indd!
So thanx for the help anywayz guys!
My post, "Looks like it's defective", is a suggestion. It looks that way. It's for the owner to verify it himself. We make suggestions of possible answers. When did i insist it is indeed defective? Or even confirm that it is?
Suggesting it could be defective can help. Some had their units check, and confirmed they're defective. Some cannot confirm. For those who do, at least they got the replacement early. It's not 100% kill rate.
In my area, from the people i know, the defective rate is more than 50%. It's a good thing HTC is quick to replace most of them without much hassle. My supposed "30" post with the word defective doesn't even come close to 50% of my posts. And i'm sure not all of them is a straight shooting down of every unit i commented on. So what's the point? Trying to humiliate fellow posters? Do you get satisfaction doing such things?
Funny can be funny. You seem to have the habit of looking for the threads i posted in and shoot down every mention of defective. And then try to defeat my comment in the most sarcastic way. You keep following me around. I'm not famous. So don't waste your time doing so. It won't make you rich.
You hit someone in the head, and then said "chill out", with a wink. Doesn't make sense. You want to provoke people. And then appear very calm and peaceful.
You wanna make jokes? Sure. I actually find the first few ones amusing. Then the more you keep on doing this, it's obviously turning out to be sarcasm.
Are you provoking me to hit back at your other comments? Well, i'm not interested.
I've picked up a few useful pieces of suggestions in this forum. That's is the reason I'm trying to contribute back to try to help others. Especially the newbies. Like how i started.
That's my only point. I'm not here to amuse you, or to satisfy your ego trip.
If i've gone too far with my effort to help, someone please tell me. So that i will stop trying to contribute.
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1.it can be software problem(custom ROM which he is using)
2.telling is defective is not help(in my opinion)
3.after a quick search i found at least 30 of your posts with "defective" word
http://www.google.com/custom?q=bart...=2855279901&boostcse=0&oe=ISO-8859-1&filter=0
4.it wasn't sarcasm,just a funny(coincidence maybe) that when i see your posts i see you are telling to guys they have defective Mini's .
p.s. chill out man dont take it so serious,people make jokes sometimes,if you dont accept that just tell me...
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Totally UNACCEPTABLE.
Please make real jokes. Picking on others is not amusing.
2 words: Stop whining.
I don't understand how a custom ROM can create such a errors. If you use the packages of the stock ROM, nothing in the software changes, so normally behaviour stays the same. Have you tried running a stock ROM?
redeye998
Have you performed a hard reset after flashing your mini with Madmatt's rom?
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2 words: Stop whining.
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Good. Same to you. So we're quits. Don't bother me, and i won't bother you.
Let's get back to business.
What's in this ROM? Any special apps or features?
Ever since WP7 was released for the HD2, it seems like any and all development for it has come to a stand still. I haven't seen or heard from any of the major devs like Cotulla or DFT.
At one point, it was said that a new MAGLDR would help fix battery drain issues, but not a word has been said about it since.
What's the story?
And I'm not trying to be impatient here... I'm honestly curious.
i'm afraid that cotulla getting tired of us. from what i saw we are very impatient people
some of us chase and beg as if we own people as slaves of developers
i know not you perhaps, but there are many out there who probably are inconsiderate
there is another group, which has donated before and expect the sky and moon to shine gold dust
however, we should just wait patiently. if it bothers you, switch back to HSPL. i still remember cotulla saying with HSPL , you should be invincible
use your Windows Mobile 6.5 as everyday use.. use an Android you love and find most stable
Windows Phone 7 is just a week odd old give it some time, like most things in development world requires
I have read some things about them working on Meego or something. That will eat up some of his time and maybe the DFT team wont do any updating before MS releases the updates?
waiting for wp7 rom kichen...
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Ever since WP7 was released for the HD2, it seems like any and all development for it has come to a stand still. I haven't seen or heard from any of the major devs like Cotulla or DFT.
At one point, it was said that a new MAGLDR would help fix battery drain issues, but not a word has been said about it since.
What's the story?
And I'm not trying to be impatient here... I'm honestly curious.
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WP7 ROM was only released 10 days ago ffs. You are 100% impatient.
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WP7 ROM was only released 10 days ago ffs. You are 100% impatient.
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Good point. WP7 hasn't been out that long.
Also, OP should consider that battery drain is just one issue. There's plenty of other problems that might take priority for DFT. It's also possible that for now they prefer to work on something else entirely, like MeeGo. As others have said, this is not a job for them. Nobody's paying them, and they're actually under no obligation to update anything at all. Donations do not equal an employment contract.
I personally curious what's causing the high battery use. My HD2 is currently not my primary phone, so right now it's spending most of its time in flight mode, only connected through wifi. I've found that the battery easily lasts several days like this. Haven't really pushed it, because charging a completely dead battery can be a bit of a problem, but my phone's now on its 3rd day since the last charge.
Yes well WP8 will come next! Wait and see...
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WP7 ROM was only released 10 days ago ffs. You are 100% impatient.
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if you read my last statement, you'll notice that I said that I'm not being impatient. Just genuinely curious. I was posing this question simply to see if anyone had heard or read anything. Save your lectures for someone else.
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WP7 ROM was only released 10 days ago ffs. You are 100% impatient.
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meptik said:
Good point. WP7 hasn't been out that long.
Also, OP should consider that battery drain is just one issue. There's plenty of other problems that might take priority for DFT. It's also possible that for now they prefer to work on something else entirely, like MeeGo. As others have said, this is not a job for them. Nobody's paying them, and they're actually under no obligation to update anything at all. Donations do not equal an employment contract.
I personally curious what's causing the high battery use. My HD2 is currently not my primary phone, so right now it's spending most of its time in flight mode, only connected through wifi. I've found that the battery easily lasts several days like this. Haven't really pushed it, because charging a completely dead battery can be a bit of a problem, but my phone's now on its 3rd day since the last charge.
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there's speculation that the high battery drain has to do with the Live Services always being on, as well as your contacts, Facebook, and pictured possibly running constantly in the background to stay synced at all times.
nova hands said:
if you read my last statement, you'll notice that I said that I'm not being impatient. Just genuinely curious. I was posing this question simply to see if anyone had heard or read anything. Save your lectures for someone else.
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You are impatient if and when they decided to release an update its up to them. If you're so curious maybe go read a book
nova hands said:
there's speculation that the high battery drain has to do with the Live Services always being on, as well as your contacts, Facebook, and pictured possibly running constantly in the background to stay synced at all times.
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Yes, and also bear in mind that battery life is far superior on NAND Android than it is on SD Android, so I really don't see Magldr a problem for battery drain.
So, with that in mind, I have to ask....
What do you want a new version of Magldr for? What do you expect from it?
Actually, this seems like a good a place as any to ask: doesn't the current MAGLDR have an issue with charging the battery when its dead (near 0%?) I leave my phone plugged in as much as possible because I'm afraid of not being able to revive it...! I have other phones that I use so I can do this.
Or is that not a MAGLDR issue? I'm just guessing this would affect NANDroid as well if it is.
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Actually, this seems like a good a place as any to ask: doesn't the current MAGLDR have an issue with charging the battery when its dead (near 0%?) I leave my phone plugged in as much as possible because I'm afraid of not being able to revive it...! I have other phones that I use so I can do this.
Or is that not a MAGLDR issue? I'm just guessing this would affect NANDroid as well if it is.
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People are saying so, yes, but I talked a guy through charging his phone earlier when it had run out, with Magldr on his phone and WP7 as his OS.
nova hands said:
there's speculation that the high battery drain has to do with the Live Services always being on, as well as your contacts, Facebook, and pictured possibly running constantly in the background to stay synced at all times.
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That speculation is probably reality. In fact I still get better battery life out of my HD2 than my wife's HD7 when under the same usage habits. Of course if I am playing "The Harvest" for a couple of hours, checking my email constantly, and whatever else I want to do with my phone, I am going to see significant drop in battery life.
If you want to better your battery, change when your email syncs, disable location services, switch to a manual brightness setting, turn off 3G, etc. Those are some ways to increase battery life.
Just know it isn't just the HD2, it is about every Win phone with a massive screen like ours, and live tiles constantly updating. But hey that is the beauty of this phone, big, bright and fun.
I am sure MS is aware that the batteries on the devices get drained faster than they should, and eventually it is going to be corrected.
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You are impatient if and when they decided to release an update its up to them. If you're so curious maybe go read a book
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Thanks, officer. I'll be sure to run any questions I have by you first so you can let me know if they are worthy of posting in the Q&A forum. Cotulla and DFT must appreciate you screening these questions.
Seriously... Its a legitimate, relevant question.
It has been stated in other threads that MAGLDR could be causing the battery charging issues, and to a lesser extent, drain issues. I'm not blowing up the boards, shouting out and demanding results from devs.
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Thanks, officer. I'll be sure to run any questions I have by you first so you can let me know if they are worthy of posting in the Q&A forum. Cotulla and DFT must appreciate you screening these questions.
Seriously... Its a legitimate, relevant question.
It has been stated in other threads that MAGLDR could be causing the battery charging issues, and to a lesser extent, drain issues. I'm not blowing up the boards, shouting out and demanding results from devs.
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Lulz no need to get snippy he is just stating what everyone is thinking.
Your post looks a lot like hey why is there no new updates for more then 10 days OMG 10 days. GIMME GIMME GIMME. You are not in the DFT groups you are not in the communication groups surrounding the testers or a developer. So yes you will most likely not hear a single word about the new releases of any software until they are released. Just sit back and relax and eat some popcorn and all good things eventually will come.
Get real guys
Dont you guys remember back in the WM5 and 6 days. How longer it took to get some real cracking, and development going.
It says WP7, but its a totally different OS with no bases to go off of. LEO70 is Ground 0.
I suggest that if can't wait for these extremely gracious developers to crack, modify and release Roms , THEN CRACK OPEN A BOOK AND LEARN TO DO IT YOURSELVES.
I'm just happy we got WP7 at all.
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Ever since WP7 was released for the HD2, it seems like any and all development for it has come to a stand still. I haven't seen or heard from any of the major devs like Cotulla or DFT.
At one point, it was said that a new MAGLDR would help fix battery drain issues, but not a word has been said about it since.
What's the story?
And I'm not trying to be impatient here... I'm honestly curious.
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Why not look at all post done by Cotulla? Here is one from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10832817&postcount=1404
Zephnath said:
That speculation is probably reality. In fact I still get better battery life out of my HD2 than my wife's HD7 when under the same usage habits. Of course if I am playing "The Harvest" for a couple of hours, checking my email constantly, and whatever else I want to do with my phone, I am going to see significant drop in battery life.
If you want to better your battery, change when your email syncs, disable location services, switch to a manual brightness setting, turn off 3G, etc. Those are some ways to increase battery life.
Just know it isn't just the HD2, it is about every Win phone with a massive screen like ours, and live tiles constantly updating. But hey that is the beauty of this phone, big, bright and fun.
I am sure MS is aware that the batteries on the devices get drained faster than they should, and eventually it is going to be corrected.
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I'm pretty sure the sd card you use with wp7 plays a big part in battery life... when I was using a 32gb class4 kingston, wp7 didn't run that good, and the battery life was horrible... when I used 16gb class 2 Sandisk, wp7 ran flawlessly and battery life was great. Now i'm using 32gb class2 Sandisk, and have it partitionsso 21gb goes to wp7 and 8gb is used for running android, and wp7 runs great, and battery life is good, but not quite as good as it was with 16gb sandisk. Since wp7 uses sd card as internal memory, it's almost constantly using it, and since different sd cards use different amounts of power, it has to make a difference.
Hi there folks! So, the galaxy s2, it's an awesome phone, the best i ever had, probably as powerful as a decent netbook. almost impossible to make it lag, the screen is awesome etc... but there's a serious drawback, which is making me want to go back to the iphone4, the battery life. i know, there are bazillions of threads about it, but come on, all people reply to those threads are suggestions, almost placebo like. e.x. "use juice defender", "turn off wifi, gps..", come on, these are not solutions. even with minimal usage, i can barely get a day out of my samsung, with heavy usage, i have to charge it 3 times a day, and considering that it uses a stupid and extremely low current limiter through the chipset (around 500 mili amps?) it takes 3 hours to charge it. for comparison, i have a asus transformer with the keyboard dock, hell, this makes me even more sad with the galaxys, as the transformer, lasts a whole day (at least 14-15hrs) at 70% brightness while gaming.
so, what the problem samsung? I'm using Ninphetamine's kernel with lightening rom (all up to date), i tried other kernels, other roms, but all of them have this issue, even when everything was stock, a day of minimal usage. here are some screens, android os is consuming most of the battery, does the section "android os" also include the kernel battery consumption?
is there a extended version of the android built in battery usage, a more specific one?
Works fine for me. Get a grip and read around. Easily get 3 days with average use.
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I hope you wipe battery in between your rom flashes...
I am Heavy user and it lasts me around 13-15 hours and am on stock not rooted.
Besides was curious How heavy you use it cause If you are like sitting whole day with it you are better off on the computer I guess
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Hi there folks! So, the galaxy s2, it's an awesome phone, the best i ever had, probably as powerful as a decent netbook. almost impossible to make it lag, the screen is awesome etc... but there's a serious drawback, which is making me want to go back to the iphone4, the battery life. i know, there are bazillions of threads about it, but come on, all people reply to those threads are suggestions, almost placebo like. e.x. "use juice defender", "turn off wifi, gps..", come on, these are not solutions. even with minimal usage, i can barely get a day out of my samsung, with heavy usage, i have to charge it 3 times a day, and considering that it uses a stupid and extremely low current limiter through the chipset (around 500 mili amps?) it takes 3 hours to charge it. for comparison, i have a asus transformer with the keyboard dock, hell, this makes me even more sad with the galaxys, as the transformer, lasts a whole day (at least 14-15hrs) at 70% brightness while gaming.
so, what the problem samsung? I'm using Ninphetamine's kernel with lightening rom (all up to date), i tried other kernels, other roms, but all of them have this issue, even when everything was stock, a day of minimal usage. here are some screens, android os is consuming most of the battery, does the section "android os" also include the kernel battery consumption?
is there a extended version of the android built in battery usage, a more specific one?
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If you are using ninphetamine and an android 2.3.4 ROM and still having battery issues, it's your problem. You have an app installed that drains battery, this is not a suggestion, this is fact. Do a completely clean install of an original dev rom, remove google latitude if it's included (known to drain battery).
If you aren't making it through atleast a full day of heavy use with that setup, then it's a hardware problem and you should RMA it.
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I hope you wipe battery in between your rom flashes...
I am Heavy user and it lasts me around 13-15 hours and am on stock not rooted.
Besides was curious How heavy you use it cause If you are like sitting whole day with it you are better off on the computer I guess
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well no, i never wipe my battery, why would i ? battery drainage by android os seems to be consistent. well just in case its a magic trick, i'll try it now
The transformer is a tablet, of course it has space for a huge battery extended by another huge battery in the keyboard. Perhaps you have a faulty battery that's not keeping charge well because I get nearly a whole day on a single charge, med to heavy use. And juice defender is a legitimate program that actually works, its not a placebo. Get a grip and stop blaming legitimate programs, or else no one will take you seriously. Read around, try some different roms, but it might just be a bad battery, if you have warranty, get the battery replaced. It couldn't hurt to try.
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If you are using ninphetamine and an android 2.3.4 ROM and still having battery issues, it's your problem. You have an app installed that drains battery, this is not a suggestion, this is fact. Do a completely clean install of an original dev rom, remove google latitude if it's included (known to drain battery).
If you aren't making it through atleast a full day of heavy use with that setup, then it's a hardware problem and you should RMA it.
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alright, any suggestions of a rom and a kernel for battery life? gonna wipe everything.
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well no, i never wipe my battery, why would i ? battery drainage by android os seems to be consistent. well just in case its a magic trick, i'll try it now
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Well threes your problem. Its not a magic trick, its fact. Do it every time you install a new rom Also, as I said before, it might be a hardware problem.
15 hours off charger, 53% battery left, 1 hr voice calls, 1 hr screen on. Not bad I'd say. I've maintained everything on except bluetooth. I have google talk, and trillian, whatsapp, facebook, tuenti, push email and a couple other things going on in the background like twitter and such, and I couldn't be happier. Well, if it could make me breakfast . I'd say you're doing something wrong. Stock, 2.3.3 not rooted. I'm just a normal geek joe!
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alright, any suggestions of a rom and a kernel for battery life? gonna wipe everything.
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Ninphetamine kernel and stock rom or cyanogen. If you still get bad results, rma that $h!t
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alright, any suggestions of a rom and a kernel for battery life? gonna wipe everything.
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So far I've used VillainROM with ninphetamine which gave great battery life, and MIUI with the kernel included which is also pretty good (not as good as villainrom with ninphetamine though). As daily ROM I use MIUI though since I love the interface and theming options.
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Ninphetamine kernel and stock rom or cyanogen. If you still get bad results, rma that $h!t
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112916
you mean this one?
swatsqad said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112916
you mean this one?
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I wouldn't suggest Cyanogen at this time, it works pretty well but it's not a stable or near final release. Also you can't use ninphetamine with Cyanogen without breaking things since ninphetamine was made for stock ROMs.
Battery wipe DOES help. I can say that with confidence cause I have seen the effect.
Completely and utterly sick to ****ing death of whining, moaning 'tards *****ing about battery life. Piss off to iPhone land.
"Can't take this anymore"? Get a frigging life. Buy a new battery. Try not installing a gazillion apps or whatever.
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Completely and utterly sick to ****ing death of whining, moaning 'tards *****ing about battery life. Piss off to iPhone land.
"Can't take this anymore"? Get a frigging life. Buy a new battery. Try not installing a gazillion apps or whatever.
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good point.
Click the thanks button then
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Click the thanks button then
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that was epic major sarcasm there (get it?), but whatever, cheers
Like everyone said: Wipe Battery Stats, and/or switch to VillainRom. I dont think Lite'ning produces the best battery life in my experience. I couldnt stand the rom.
And one of the good things about Android phones is that you can buy an extended battery from ebay. They're quite affordable as well
I get crazy battery life on Litening rom. You need to do factory reset before or after installation.
Hello,
I'm trying to use an app called Call Recorder. The app has an option to use two-way records, working only on custom kernel that supports this feature.
So I was trying to install Franco's kernel and it had the work done, but I found out it is KILLING my battery (very surprisingly actually). The stock kernel works great for me in battery and every other aspect.
My question is if there is a really close-to-stock kernel that supports two-way recording, and if there isn't I would be happy to have a piece of advice about a good kernel that isn't downgrading my battery level (or that is bad in any other aspect).
Thanks in advance.
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First of I want to say that if you ever visited Franco's thread you know that he don't make kernels that drain out your battery. In fact the opposite. Have you tracked your app with 2 way recording could be the culprit of your battery drain? There isn't really any info from you on what you have enabled and disabled. Such as rogue apps that can eat up your memory, high voltages on top of your frequencies. Takers conflicting with each other. Basically anything conflicting with each other cause battery drain. Like CPU apps. What governor your using. Try adjusting your kernel to optimize battery life. Disable functions that you don't use. Get rid of any taskers. Android does a good job of managing memory on its own. Please do your research before you go blaming someone's kernel for your battery drain. FYI rogue apps have been known to cause wake locks so figure out what's causing that too if your suffering from that as well. 90% percent of the time its a user error on battery drain.
Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208289
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mariosraptor said:
Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208289
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I don't believe his nexus is bricked...just wanted to find a kernel that consumes less battery.
Jsparta26 said:
First of I want to say that if you ever visited Franco's thread you know that he don't make kernels that drain out your battery. In fact the opposite. Have you tracked your app with 2 way recording could be the culprit of your battery drain? There isn't really any info from you on what you have enabled and disabled. Such as rogue apps that can eat up your memory, high voltages on top of your frequencies. Takers conflicting with each other. Basically anything conflicting with each other cause battery drain. Like CPU apps. What governor your using. Try adjusting your kernel to optimize battery life. Disable functions that you don't use. Get rid of any taskers. Android does a good job of managing memory on its own. Please do your research before you go blaming someone's kernel for your battery drain. FYI rogue apps have been known to cause wake locks so figure out what's causing that too if your suffering from that as well. 90% percent of the time its a user error on battery drain.
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Hey.
You can assume, despite your habit, that I am not a complete retard. Of course my battery will drain if I change my usual activities and run software that drains my battery. You can assume that I didn't play hardcore games after installing the kernel and then go complain. His kernel, I don't care for the tech explanations, did cause me a battery drain and I can prove it. I didn't ask from you to argue about his kernel's quality but asked for advice about other one.
Your disrespectful comments won't help.
@mariosraptor, I'm sorry for not understanding how can unbricking tool solve my problem.
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MasterLinuxer said:
Hey.
You can assume, despite your habit, that I am not a complete retard. Of course my battery will drain if I change my usual activities and run software that drains my battery. You can assume that I didn't play hardcore games after installing the kernel and then go complain. His kernel, I don't care for the tech explanations, did cause me a battery drain and I can prove it. I didn't ask from you to argue about his kernel's quality but asked for advice about other one.
Your disrespectful comments won't help.
@mariosraptor, I'm sorry for not understanding how can unbricking tool solve my problem.
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usually after flashing a new kernel, the battery for the first 2 cycles are inaccurate. the third cycle and after is usually much better.
I wasn't being disrespectful. Your the one who couldn't elaborate as to why your battery was draining so fast. If you knew what I told you then you would've tried all those things first beforecoming here to q n a and complaining about francos kernel. Where did I explain any of francos kernel features? Its very easy to know that his kernel is the best at battery life. I guarantee if you went on his thread complaining about how his kernel doesn't have your feature you would be met with laughter and a sarcastic response like "who has two thumbs and doesn't give a crap? Francisco Franco. How you doing?". Instead of taking my advice as a negative shot at your ego, maybe try them out and see if it improves. Honestly, I tried out every kernel in this forums and none of them that I know of support your "two-way recording feature". I don't even think its a kernel related issue at all. Since you love my advice so much I will give you one more piece. If your going to ask for a feature for a kernel, don't start off complaining about how this kernel or that kernel is the reason why your battery sucks at battery life. Not your own words but i figured that that's what a dev would see it as. You can take my responses any way you want it but bottom line. Your just another user not using his brain.instead of coming over here looking for someone to spoon feed you answers. Look for yourself. If you don't find what your looking for, be polite and request a feature instead of telling a dev their kernel drains your battery because I will tell you he may say something similar to my first response to your op. Have a nice day.
Edit: by the way, I looked at this call recorder app you spoke of. Now where does it say you need a custom kernel to enable two way calling feature. So this makes your argument invalid.
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I wasn't being disrespectful. Your the one who couldn't elaborate as to why your battery was draining so fast. If you knew what I told you then you would've tried all those things first beforecoming here to q n a and complaining about francos kernel. Where did I explain any of francos kernel features? Its very easy to know that his kernel is the best at battery life. I guarantee if you went on his thread complaining about how his kernel doesn't have your feature you would be met with laughter and a sarcastic response like "who has two thumbs and doesn't give a crap? Francisco Franco. How you doing?". Instead of taking my advice as a negative shot at your ego, maybe try them out and see if it improves. Honestly, I tried out every kernel in this forums and none of them that I know of support your "two-way recording feature". I don't even think its a kernel related issue at all. Since you love my advice so much I will give you one more piece. If your going to ask for a feature for a kernel, don't start off complaining about how this kernel or that kernel is the reason why your battery sucks at battery life. Not your own words but i figured that that's what a dev would see it as. You can take my responses any way you want it but bottom line. Your just another user not using his brain.instead of coming over here looking for someone to spoon feed you answers. Look for yourself. If you don't find what your looking for, be polite and request a feature instead of telling a dev their kernel drains your battery because I will tell you he may say something similar to my first response to your op. Have a nice day.
Edit: by the way, I looked at this call recorder app you spoke of. Now where does it say you need a custom kernel to enable two way calling feature. So this makes your argument invalid.
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i disagree with you that franco kernel is best for battery life. it might be best for YOU for battery life, but its not best for everyone.
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i disagree with you that franco kernel is best for battery life. it might be best for YOU for battery life, but its not best for everyone.
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That's fine and thats a fair statement. But he was complaining that his kernel sucks his battery not to mention he was asking about a feature instead of looking for himself.. As a fellow user we are responsible for our own discretions and have to own up to our own mistakes. Isn't the whole point is to help yourself? Dont we have to search amd research and try everything before we go complaining to the devs about how their kernel drains their battery?I wasnt trying to be a douche. I believe he has been around long enough to know the procedures before asking for help. I have to ask, what kernel are you using thats giving you good battery life?
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That's fine and thats a fair statement. But he was complaining that his kernel sucks his battery not to mention he was asking about a feature insteareof looking for himself.. As a fellow user we are responsible for our own discretions and have to own up to our own mistakes. Isn't the whole point is to help yourself? Dont we have to search amd research and try everything before we go complaining to the devsrath how their kernel drains their battery?I wasnt trying to be a douche. I believe he has been around long enough to know the procedures before asking for help. I have to ask, what kernel are you using thats giving you good battery life?
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oh, i dont think that you were being a douche in any way. quite opposite, youre being very helpful. but for him it could have been the worst battery life(whatever the reaons are. but battery is hard to judge from the first cycle since itll change after a few). anywho, i think its obvious what kernel i use, trinity. it gives me my best battery life. not to discount franciscos kernel, because its generally a great kernel also. the problem is, if you go into any kernel thread, and ask about battery life, every user will say that the kernel that they use is the best
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oh, i dont think that you were being a douche in any way. quite opposite, youre being very helpful. but for him it could have been the worst battery life(whatever the reaons are. but battery is hard to judge from the first cycle since itll change after a few). anywho, i think its obvious what kernel i use, trinity. it gives me my best battery life. not to discount franciscos kernel, because its generally a great kernel also. the problem is, if you go into any kernel thread, and ask about battery life, every user will say that the kernel that they use is the best
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Right right. Lol As they say, not all chips are created equal. Some kernels work better on ones persons device and may suck on another's. Which validates your point.
, I'm sorry for not understanding how can unbricking tool solve my problem.
Oops. I'm sorry.
I meant this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grinzone.incallrecorder
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I wasn't being disrespectful. Your the one who couldn't elaborate as to why your battery was draining so fast. If you knew what I told you then you would've tried all those things first beforecoming here to q n a and complaining about francos kernel. Where did I explain any of francos kernel features? Its very easy to know that his kernel is the best at battery life. I guarantee if you went on his thread complaining about how his kernel doesn't have your feature you would be met with laughter and a sarcastic response like "who has two thumbs and doesn't give a crap? Francisco Franco. How you doing?". Instead of taking my advice as a negative shot at your ego, maybe try them out and see if it improves. Honestly, I tried out every kernel in this forums and none of them that I know of support your "two-way recording feature". I don't even think its a kernel related issue at all. Since you love my advice so much I will give you one more piece. If your going to ask for a feature for a kernel, don't start off complaining about how this kernel or that kernel is the reason why your battery sucks at battery life. Not your own words but i figured that that's what a dev would see it as. You can take my responses any way you want it but bottom line. Your just another user not using his brain.instead of coming over here looking for someone to spoon feed you answers. Look for yourself. If you don't find what your looking for, be polite and request a feature instead of telling a dev their kernel drains your battery because I will tell you he may say something similar to my first response to your op. Have a nice day.
Edit: by the way, I looked at this call recorder app you spoke of. Now where does it say you need a custom kernel to enable two way calling feature. So this makes your argument invalid.
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First of all, the kernel causes battery drain for ME and it's a fact that I could prove. Secondly, your advice is irrelevant because I probably wouldn't be complaining if I'd use things that drain my battery after installing his kernel (Doh?). Oh and the two-way recording worked on Franco's kernel if you didn't realize, and it doesn't work on stock. It is a kernel feature.
Anyways, it is not a discussion about Franco's kernel quality. if you don't believe that it causes battery drain for me it is your right, but it is not related to the thread (and I wouldn't "give a crap" about Franco's response to this, as you stated). The reasons I felt that your post was disrespectful are that you don't believe me that it causes my battery to drain and that you give me ways to save battery juice while I know how to do so, didn't ask for it and it is not relevant to my case at all.
If you're so smart and I can't be reasonable enough to know what's draining my battery, please take my piece of advice and don't waste your precious time on posting here at all.
Have a nice day.
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Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
yk1999 said:
Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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There is really nothing one size fits all kind of thing. Try these different ROMs for yourself to see what works best for you. It's hard to see which has better battery life since different users will have different usage stats.
I have to agree... One person might get great battery on RR and terrible on AICP, the next person the opposite. The only to really tell which one gets the best battery in your situation is to try them.
Data is too scattered to determine which ROM provides the best battery life. You see people getting all day battery life with different kernels, tweaks, usage, etc
yk1999 said:
Please post your battery life in stock marshmallow,stock nougut,RR,AICP and other roms.
So we can compare them.
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I'm not trying to bash your post but TBH, any comparison you make from others is practically useless. As mentioned, people have different experiences on custom ROMs. One specific ROM might have excellent battery life on one phone and have horrible battery life on another of the same model. But there is an even more important factor that makes comparing across ROMs just as useless... Everyone uses their phone differently. Not just with apps they install, but with the features of a ROM they they decide to enable or not.
On that note, if you are considering a custom ROM, the best way to determine if it is right for you is simply to try them. Make backups that way you can revert back to the one you decide is best.
I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I know that every user use their phone differently. I don't know what made you guys think i don't know that. But what i am trying to compare is not overall battery life but battery life based on individual usage. Like when some one use that rom for only calls and get a lot of stand by time how much battery it drains. from that i can know how much battery it drains when kept idle. Same goes for using wifi or using mobile data , watching YouTube or reading PDF. I want to know how much battery that rom uses on what usage.
Sorry for my bad English. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say.
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Referencing individual usage as you have, along with any specific ROM across devices, you are not going to get consistent results. I understand you are trying to consolidate this data on one post, but there are to many variables involved.
To highlight: I could run AICP on my XT1575 with a clean install and no extra apps installed and make only calls and I might get excellent battery life on standby. But another XT1575 owner can do the exact same setup, make the same number and times of calls and get horrible battery life. This pretty much goes for any custom ROM, especially those not based on stock. This does not even account for differences in MM vs N. This also does not account for an update to a ROM screwing up battery life and the next one may fix it (which is relatively common). I've even seen where someone gets great battery life up to a certain update and thereafter it sucks, but another can experience the opposite.
And once again, individual usage still matters as individuals will have different apps installed, which can take up varying amounts of battery depending on background processes and syncing. This affects standby time and SOT to some degree. Also do not forget that the chipset on this phone is prone to negative affects on battery depending on cell signal strength, so that is another kink in observing and comparing battery life across users.
Ultimately, the best way to determine what gives you the best battery life is too rest ROMs for yourself and your specific usages.
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I understand this. But I think it would be easier to try for yourself, because to get say, me to try say 4 different ROMs, same usage, and then report back to you would be more time consuming than you trying for yourself.
I know you know that every user is different but the same user trying different ROMs for you just doesn't make sense.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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I am not saying anyone to try different roms for me. I was just wanting them to post battery stat of the rom they use as their daily driver.
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Spencervb256 said:
Yes ok. So we should be on the same page about different users using their devices differently. So if user A posts about say ROM B, and user B posts about ROM A, you know you can't compare. I would post my stats with RR but you couldn't compare to someone posting AICP stats as we are different users. The only way to be even somewhat accurate would be to get the same user to try different ROMs. Which you can do. Honestly just try the different ROMs! I will say with my experience though DU has not had the greatest battery life.
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Well said!
@yk1999 As stated above as well as in my post, you just can't compare experiences of users across multiple devices and ROMs as there are to many variables involved. We understand what you are asking and we are telling you that there is only one way for you to get the information you are looking for. The only way for you to figure out what will have the best battery life in YOUR situation (how a ROM operates on YOUR specific device, YOUR selection of apps, and YOUR specific usage scenarios) is to test the ROMs for yourself.
Maybe there should be an app saving battery stats for the current ROM (internal storage or personal cloud), and comparing these personal stats with previous stats made when you had another ROM installed.
Of course there are other variables that affect the battery stats (like the apps installed, or the apps you actually open in a battery cycle) but at least the app would be able to list and compare battery stats on the same device and user.
Ie, I imagine a list like:
- ROM R1. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR1
- ROM R1. Kernel K2. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR2
- ROM R2. Kernel K1. X1 apps installed. Battery rate: BR3
...
It could be able to group by Android version,...
I haven't found an app doing this. Do you know an app doing it? And, do you think this app would make any sense?