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Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
DTNT said:
Dear all, please dont kick me so hard, but can anybody explain me what is window (sensor, device???) on the top of htc logo and between calldynamic! What is this, proximity sensor NO?! IRda - NO?! In manuals i couldnt find this place explanation. Sorry didnt read all threads to find thruth!
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First off, welcome to XDA
Secondly, do you mean the 3G Camera or earpiece or the light sensor?
Can you provide image of what you are describing?
Check out page 25 of manual
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
DTNT said:
Thank you Spartan for you hospitality, no this sensor in the left side, it is not camera and light sensor! you can see it only in some angle, stright look will not show you this place. later i will try to highlight in pic.
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No sensor, just your imagination, scratch or build defect.
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
DTNT said:
I dont mention that it is sensor, but what is this? please see in the angle to your apparatus and you will see it, maybe something that producers did for future uses? just take a look!
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I have check on my girlfriend's TouchHD and there is....... NOTHING!
There is nothing there. Your phone might have some kind of minor manufacturing flaw that makes you think there is something there. I have had my HD for a year and have never heard of anything being there. I looked at it from all angles, and compared it to the right side. My phone shows nothing. Both the left and the right side look the same.
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
DTNT said:
Thank you all for your attempts, but I will tru to put pic of it (if camera will capture it), and maybe than you can explain me this place usebility. Will try to give a pix on monday!!!
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I highly doubt there's anything. I've recently opened up my phone to replace the screen and had to mess around in there with the camera/speaker/light sensor and there was nothing else.
Please see attached photoes, can anybody explain this window dedication? Waiting for your replyes.
looks like a air bubble under the screen protector.
Oh common guys, it is not bubble, not scratch, please look on top of htc logo untill calldynamic, this thing placed between them. Mayby mine is special, super-assembled!!!
ok, i was doubtful but i checked anyway and couldnt see anything, then i saw your pics and thought id give it another try and nope, nada, then i figured id pull it to bits and have a gander and inside and still nothing.
Whilst this was slightly entertaining im affraid to say you have probably got a bubble under the first layer of screen.
That is the most likely explination, the chances you have a one off device that no one else has which has some mystical new sensor is so small you'd be better off putting your life savings and the money you made selling your house on the lottery in the hope you'll hit the big one!
Ok, if accept the version that it is bubble under first layer, can you explain why this bubble has so right geometric forms? The guy next to me has an IPhone, and even him thought that it is porximity sensor like his apple has. Strange and Mistyc!!!
I agree that the shape is very geometrical, and I can understand how it would make you think there is something special there. It is unique, but I still don't think it's related to any functions or features the phone has. Look at the letters "htc". You have a slight frame around each letter that is the same shade/color as the "window" you are referring to. My "htc" letters have no such frame around them. The black of the phone comes up directly to where the white letters start.
So, I think it's some kind of strange manufacturing effect.
I'll even attach the service manual for you to look at.
Download service manual here
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
Absolutely agree with htc letter, before your post i don't even see this feat, well, i think i should agree with that this window has no any function. Besides i saw off. manual, no-nothing. OK, waiting for another variants of reply.
Fallen Spartan said:
To be truthfully honest I thought you were seeing things until you posted your 3 pics. Yes, it does look geometrical in shape, but I can assure you that this is not a sensor, button or anything else intended by HTC. As stated by others previously is looks like a flaw in some way, either on the device itself or caused by the skin protector. If you take your device to any retail shop and compare it with another HD this may ease your concerns and I'm sure the staff in the shop would also say as everyone else here has.
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Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
DTNT said:
Well, first of all device was bought not in EU, second, in my country very hard to find even person who owns device, too much expensive for our market, i'm even not talking about shops to compare my apparatus with others. By the way, does anybody know, whether in this forum chats somebody from HTC. i would asked him directly.
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I would just ask HTC directly on their contact site:
http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx
Looks like something trapped under the screen protector, did you peel it back and check?
Got my SGSII yesterday only to realize that there is a circle on the downleft of screen. It's very annoying. Went to Telenor today but they had no phones left. Only thing to do now is wait 4 weeks for a new one.
Any idé on what this is? Have you checked your own ones?
imgur.com/a/pLZC5#3guAm
More people have this. I don't know if it went away with anyone? Some say it should go away and the production process causing it.
I see you also have the 1/3 yellowish/darker screen. I am wondering if there is someone who doesn't have this.
Sorry didn't want you to focuss on it, guess you didn't saw yet. but a lot have this(if not everybody).
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More people have this. I don't know if it went away with anyone? Some say it should go away and the production process causing it.
I see you also have the 1/3 yellowish/darker screen. I am wondering if there is someone who doesn't have this.
Sorry didn't want you to focuss on it, guess you didn't saw yet. but a lot have this(if not everybody).
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Haha now when you say it. I was so blind cause of that circle that I didn't notice the yellow/dark thing! Haha!
Do you have a link to any other source that say that they have gotten rid of the circle thing? I searched alot before posting but couldn't find anythin.
jedijens said:
Got my SGSII yesterday only to realize that there is a circle on the downleft of screen. It's very annoying. Went to Telenor today but they had no phones left. Only thing to do now is wait 4 weeks for a new one.
Any idé on what this is? Have you checked your own ones?
imgur.com/a/pLZC5#3guAm
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wow almost looks like you kept your phone in your pocket with some coin for too long
dial *#0*# to see the menu for individual color display, or use some app like Dead Pixel Detect , to do more tests.
lol it's funny
Dont have any problems with my screen. Tried setting higher and lower brightness on different background and saw nothing. Are display problems really that common?
Jonzza said:
Dont have any problems with my screen. Tried setting higher and lower brightness on different background and saw nothing. Are display problems really that common?
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So no Yellow on the left side on grey? No vertical lines of white on grey background?
No blue coating when tilting the phone?
Take a picture i will look.
ams84 said:
lol it's funny
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Funny like a face plant, as long as it's someone else.
I wouldn't be amused having to wait 4 weeks to get that fixed.
imgur.com/a/xdEvR
I took some more pictures on different backgrounds and it seems like it is only visible on grey. Ar almost.
Only thing to do is send it in?
this phone has so many faults.
all you can do is send it back and get another one... and hope that there isnt something wrong with that.
Am I lucky? My one has no problem. Did you do special things? Or the circle point was pressed? I am worry about possible problem on my sgs2.
topambire said:
Am I lucky? My one has no problem.
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Give me 10 minutes with your phone and I'll find you one.
topambire said:
Am I lucky? My one has no problem. Did you do special things? Or the circle point was pressed? I am worry about possible problem on my sgs2.
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Didn't do anything. Opened it, charged it and booted it. Tested it out and rolled down statusbar, noticed directly and all my happyness for my new phone dissappeared.
I guess its the kind of person who owns the phone..
I myself am almost a perfectionist.. well.. atleast when i buy new things.. why would i want a new product with some minor/ major problems on it?
hardware problems.. not software.. since software can be fixed.
I had the circle on mine, top right of the screen. Made a thread about it last week: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078058
Noticed it shortly after taking delivery of the box when I was viewing some photos. It's not visible on pixels where full brightness is used (no matter if it's R, G, or B), but on anything between black and full white it's visible. Sent mine back yesterday for replacement, but I was told by an Expansys-USA rep that they won't have any in stock till the 30th.
Supposedly it's from the suction cup used on the assembly line and that it's technically supposed to go away over time. Expansys only gives a small window of time for returns, and my circle wasn't showing signs of disappearing. Might wanna have yours swapped out, too.
Thanks, was looking for someone else having this problem.
I live in Sweden and ordered from operator Telenor.
They only have a 7 day DOA, so I called them and because all phones were out both in physical store and on the web, they was going to send me a servicebox that I will pack everything and then send it. Hopefully I will get a new one in a few weeks. They say that it can take up to a month though.
Hey there,
I got the exact same thing, but on the right side of the display. I got this thing just yesterday, I live in Germany.
I really do not want to send it back, especially since it seems display problems are pretty common with this phone and there is no guarantee I'll get another one without it.
Anyone knows if this might go away? I have 4 weeks until I have to send it back.
No idea if it will go away, but if you've got 4 weeks, maybe you can see if it does fade over time? I had a really short period of time to report any problems with the phone to Expansys (48 hours), so I couldn't wait.
Man... 4 weeks..! That seems like such a luxurious amount of time to check for problems with the phone.
I can't see anything like this on my phone...
How can I see/make it:-??
I really need your help on this one guys!
I unpacked my brand new Nexus 4 yesterday. Everything seemed fine until I fired up the camera app. Everything was really blurry and the autofocus didn't seem to work at all! We're not talking about some minor autofocusing problem here, but a huge deal breaking disaster...
I then also noticed that when I moved the camera really close to an object, the image got sharp! So, it's like it's in macro mode all the time or something. I've tried to restart the phone, factory reset etc. NOTHING works! The worst part is that I can't even go to google and replace it, because I live in Finland and got the phone brought home to me by a friend who visited USA... Is there anything I can do to make it work?
I also tried a third party camera app (camera zoom fx) in which there were several focusing modes, like macro, normal, auto and infinity mode. Didn't matter which mode I used, there was no differens..
Have any of you guys experienced the same problem? I know there's been a lot of talk about the Nexus 4 camera, but I could never have imagined that a brand new flagship phone would have these kind of problems right out of the box. Please help me.
This may sound a bit stupid, but you have tried simply cleaning the glass over the lens and checking it for scratches right? You seem to have tried a fair amount of things so it's likely to be a hardware issue of some sort.
Not trying to be a smart ass, but did you remove the plastic film off of the backside. I made that mistake before with a different phone. The film was barely noticeable because it was only over the camera lens from inside the cover, so I just thought the phone had a sorry camera. Otherwise, it sounds like you could have a defective camera.
Also when you take a picture, hold the button until the focus ring rotates and locks on the 12 o'clock position, then let go of the button.
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Not trying to be a smart ass, but did you remove the plastic film off of the backside. I made that mistake before with a different phone. The film was barely noticeable because it was only over the camera lens from inside the cover, so I just thought the phone had a sorry camera. Otherwise, it sounds like you could have a defective camera.
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meangreenie said:
Also when you take a picture, hold the button until the focus ring rotates and locks on the 12 o'clock position, then let go of the button.
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Thx for your answers! I'm afraid I've tested all that. Still no luck.
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Thx for your answers! I'm afraid I've tested all that. Still no luck.
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Claasical case of yet another defected user.
Please help me, I just noticed that when I take a picture up close, my camera seems to only focus on the part that I touch, even though it's a flat thing like my monitor. It's like I'm applying tilt shift to my picture.
My Note 4 model is N910H and I'm on Sweet Rom V3, and installed camera mod from the apps forum. Tried using stock camera and 3rd party apps, still get the same result.
I uploaded some picture I'm taking from my monitor with my note 4 so that you can understand what I meant.
Is this hardware fault? or is it software?
Looks a bit too extreme. Just tried that myself - SLIGHTLY blur at the picture's end, but just slightly.
Your pictures look like taken with "Background Defocus".
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Looks a bit too extreme. Just tried that myself - SLIGHTLY blur at the picture's end, but just slightly.
Your pictures look like taken with "Background Defocus".
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Yeah, this is really bothering me, when I want to take a picture of documents I can't read the whole page because of the blur.
I am reluctant to bring my note 4 to samsung as it already root so I guess my warranty is gone
shinobu91 said:
Yeah, this is really bothering me, when I want to take a picture of documents I can't read the whole page because of the blur. I am reluctant to bring my note 4 to samsung as it already root so I guess my warranty is gone
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Just an idea... You removed that protective film on the camera lens ?
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Just an idea... You removed that protective film on the camera lens ?
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I have removed them from the first time I unboxed it, even if I didn't remove it, it has hole in the middle so it should'nt affect the camera.
I have also tried cleaning the lens to no avail.
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I have removed them from the first time I unboxed it, even if I didn't remove it, it has hole in the middle so it should'nt affect the camera.
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I know. - But there are many users not even noticing it - and it's possible that the film shifted a bit, so it might cover a little part of the lens.
I have also tried cleaning the lens to no avail.
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Please try any other camera software. As said: It looks like that typical "defocus" effect - maybe that feature is still on although you can't see it being active.
There's a simlilar issue with the Sony Z3 front camera (the main camera IS an issue itself): There's a "Soft Skin" effect, causing massive blur. You can switch it off - but it still remains active.
So it wouldn't be the first time.
So I am not alone.
I am having similar issues with my camera.
Took it to Samsung for replacement. They were offering repair on a 10 day old phone.
Anxious to see what happens next
Sent from my SM-N910G using XDA Free mobile app
Glad I'm not alone with focusing problems...
Here is my topic : Note 4 camera won't lock focus + blurry edges on pictures with far focus
Best regards,
Chris.
Nope, definitely not alone. I am having similar issues with my camera, and I have been having them since I got my phone on October 21'st. Taking it in for repairs or hopefully a replacement. For me, the camera will focus fine on stuff within a meter or two, but anything farther just will not focus unless I hit the phone. That sounds kinda dangerous, but that is the only thing I can do to fix it. I have pretty much everything possible with no fixes. It doesn't do it all the time, but it seems to get stuck 50/50. When it works, it works for a while. When it doesn't work, it doesn't work for a while.
Same here....I got a repair ticket in with Samsung, I unfortunately have to send my phone off for 2 weeks.................WHATEVER WILL I DO!???!!!???!!
note 4 verizon camera not focusing on documents
I had the same problem and the main purpose of the "Note" family of samsung is to edit documents on the fly so this sucks.
I could not find a solution. There is no option in the camera menu that corrects this. I tried using "cam scan" and "FX" camera app and they both had the same problem with partial blurred image.
I purchased my phone from craigslist and met the seller in the store to make sure it was legit and not stolen. I purchased the phone two or three weeks ago and I feel very fortunate that Verizon helped me to do a manufacturers defect claim after searching my IMEI number for date of original purchase. since the phone only came out a few months ago they should all still have the manufacture warranty.
I usually dont post to things because im not tech savvy but I thought I should give verizon credit for helping me even though I did not purchase the phone from their store. I just got back from the store and I should have my new phone in one business day and just mail the defective one back in the package they provide. Amazing since I work with documents and notes on the fly everyday.
sorry I dont have a fix for the problem and if you root your phone your SOL unless you have accidental handling and damage type insurance, if you catch my drift.
The pictures you posted worries me a little as this can happen in other Galaxy devices released in the near future. Samsung is really falling apart, and need to get their act together and hurt innocent customers. No wonder Samsung's quarterly report is much lower than expected.
shinobu91 said:
Please help me, I just noticed that when I take a picture up close, my camera seems to only focus on the part that I touch, even though it's a flat thing like my monitor. It's like I'm applying tilt shift to my picture.
My Note 4 model is N910H and I'm on Sweet Rom V3, and installed camera mod from the apps forum. Tried using stock camera and 3rd party apps, still get the same result.
I uploaded some picture I'm taking from my monitor with my note 4 so that you can understand what I meant.
Is this hardware fault? or is it software?
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Sorry I didn't update the thread. I brought my phone to Samsung service center, and had to leave it for 2 days for them to change my camera module. And it's now all good again. The problem obviously lies on the hardware, so nothing you can do to fix it unless you change that camera module.
Note 4 camera
THIS WHAT I DID WORKING FINE FOR ME HOPE ILL HELP YOU
Sashka: Let us perform a few troubleshooting steps on the device to isolate the cause of the issue. Shall we?
karim: OK
Sashka: Please go to Settings >> Application Manager >> swipe to All tab >> scroll to "Camera" app.
Sashka: Perform clear cache and clear data on it.
Sashka: It would reset the settings of the camera app.
Sashka: Perform this and check the issue with the camera's focus.
karim: LITTLE BETTER THANKS FOR THE HELP
Sashka: However, as the camera is fine now, Let us perform soft reset. It will refresh internal circuit of the phone: Remove the battery and re-insert it after 30 sec.
Sashka: Once you perform this, check the camera issue, this would refresh the circuitry as we have changed a few settings,
The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)
isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.
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isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with this post
To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.
Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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isnt that what OIS does?
the camera moves inside its aperture
i thought it was by design
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Ah, yes. I know that the 16MP camera above the flash does move 'cause of OIS but I've seen the top one exactly centred on other phones. Looking more precisely, I saw that the rest position of both the cameras is a bit above the centre (of course both, because they're mounted on one board).
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Quick visual assessment of my device appears the bottom camera is up a tiny bit and top is down a little. If I get a chance I'll throw my phone on the metrology imaging device at work and verify if my eyes are playing tricks on me. Regardless I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
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Haha, thanks. Appreciate your help!
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Checked mine they are very close to centered as you can see in the picture. The dots in the center of the circle represent the center of each circle. Probably hard to see though.
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OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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To op;
At first glance I thought you were probably seeing things but after looking at your pics it does seem pretty clear that the camera units are not 'properly' centered in the frame...
It's really up to you as to whether you want to RMA for a replacement. I had to replace mine for different reasons and am glad I did but if they are functioning properly, as you say they are, I might just not bother with replacement.... Definitely weird situation though.
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Hey, thanks for looking into it. Would you recommend any sort of check for testing the secondary cam functionality? It's just day 2 for me so I'm sure I haven't digged in the phone as much as you have.
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Is it making a drastic difference in the image quality of the photo?
If not, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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There's absolutely no change in the image quality. The cameras are not broken or anything, just misplaced.
It's just that this being my most expensive smartphone yet, I was a bit concerned. Thanks!
I guess I forget about this now until someone really points some unknown fact about this. Before Valentine's day!
Paresh Kalinani said:
OMG you really did some work on this! Thank you so much. I can see the dots and that's the same problem as mine. The difference is that your error is very, very less as compared to mine. Any problems with the cam so far?
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It's a really fancy measuring device I have at work took about a minute to whip up so no big deal at all. And no I have not noticed any issues at all. I get great quality photos and video. If you aren't experiencing problems I would guess your fine but it's your device so your call
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The 6T just arrived yesterday, it felt really good 'cause I was coming from the ages old OnePlus One.
And boom! I had this feeling that the camera on my phone is misplaced. Both rear cameras are not in the centre, they're a bit above the centre.
Could anyone please help here? I just got one friend out here who has a 6T and comparing the two I do see some difference.
Should I care about this misplacement? I'll get a replacement if I report it within 10 days so yeah, do tell me if anyone knows about this and if I should really care and report it or is it not a big deal and just fine. The phone is perfect - those cameras work perfectly, I tested them individually by the tests in *#808# and both work.
Attaching some images of my phone and also one that I found on the internet (which I feel has the same issue?).
I've marked the cam in yellow and the asymmetrical hollow space around it in green.
(It's the 256GB model by the way)
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@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!
It's all good.
rsmarx said:
@Paresh Kalinani please update this post with the solution you came up.
Thanks!
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I showed it to multiple local repairers and all of them suggested to not go for replacement if I had to use the phone for important things, back then. I spent a lot of time testing both the cameras at the back thoroughly and they had no problem at all. I didn't do anything! I did not get it replaced. I can still see my cameras are misplaced but there's no issue at all. Top class photos and videos, used a lot.
So I can close this with : If you're concerned about your camera's positioning, go get your device replaced. If you're concerned about it's functioning, don't. They're 100% fine. :good: