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Ok guys, first a bit of an intro.
I have a desire HD, a HD2 and a ZTE blade. Ok, I am addicted to say the least.
Now I saw this phone and might want to get rid of my ZTE. It seems like I will need to go cycle more and need a bit of phone that can handle a bit of rain etc.
The HD2 is to play with (bought it cheap and fixed it). The Desire HD I use for internet/gps and the ZTE is my workphone.
Now I have been looking around and ... djeez, red or green lens and defy+.
I think buying second hand might be a risk but on the other hand it seems that more custom roms are being developed for the 'regular' Defy.
Any hints or thoughts on what to buy and advantages/disadvantages?
Go for a regular defy red lense. Then over clock to defy+ stats. Enjoy it. I love showing people my awesome "water resistant" phone. Which I always drop in there drink n drink it. <3 free drinks.
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Get the regular defy, there is no reason to get another one.
The Defy + is almost a regular defy, but with better cpu(overclock helps)
The Defy + has Gingerbread (custom rom)
The other Defy versions, like defy mini are too slow. As far as i know cpu is at 800mHz wich is the same as the "regular" Defy, but dont know about overclock on this phone.
Regular defy has the greatest developers. Try getting a red lensed one, cause you are able too upgrade to gingerbread kernel (read tutorials) and use a great cm9 version with working camera. Green lensed Defy doesnt have the possibility, too use gb kernel, cause it just doesnt support this camera. Locked Bootloader makes it impossible (at this time) to change the Kernel.
So try to get red lensed regular defy and you are goin too have the best
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Go for a regular defy red lense. Then over clock to defy+ stats. Enjoy it. I love showing people my awesome "water resistant" phone. Which I always drop in there drink n drink it. <3 free drinks.
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LOL
I recommend a DEFY+ if you can find it at a same price as a regular DEFY (as I did, somehow).
DEFY+ = red lens (bayer) defy + a bigger battery
Stock Gingerbread on DEFY+ is quite awesome in my opinion, as it's really fast and everything works... Plus, you get 720p. If you go for a regular DEFY you might end up with a SOC (green lens) one with which you wouldn't be able to use Motorola's Gingerbread or Gingerbread kernel ROM's (we here with Moto's have locked bootloaders and are stuck with stock kernels) or have 720p recording.
MIUI is the only ROM that is Froyo only, but if you get a 2.3.5 or 2.3.4 DEFY+ (or some of the first 2.3.6) you will still be able to down flash to Froyo. If you're a MIUI fan...
Other than that, both CM7 and CM9 are available for Gingerbread and are the same as the ones for Froyo (features/speed/stability/everything-wise).
Hope I haven't confused too much Just don't go for the DEFY mini, that one sucks!
Ok thx guys. I love to have different opinions on 1 phone (which are actually 3 different ones)
And yes I plan to earn my money back by dropping it into a glass of water
I saw a second hand one with scratches on the screen for 160€. Now this is another stupid thing, I want one with no scratches which actually doesn't make any sense does it? Why would you want to buy a landrover jeep from somebody that doesn't have a single scratch or dent on it.
Well go for it on Amazon.
I think the Prices are ok. But just have a view
Defy: http://www.amazon.de/Motorola-Smartphone-Touchscreen-wassergeschützt-staubdicht/dp/B00429ZAUK
Defy +: http://www.amazon.de/Motorola-Smart...gapixel/dp/B005DZ1S8K/ref=tag_stp_s2_edpp_url
lukesan said:
Ok thx guys. I love to have different opinions on 1 phone (which are actually 3 different ones)
And yes I plan to earn my money back by dropping it into a glass of water
I saw a second hand one with scratches on the screen for 160€. Now this is another stupid thing, I want one with no scratches which actually doesn't make any sense does it? Why would you want to buy a landrover jeep from somebody that doesn't have a single scratch or dent on it.
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Yeah right. Why should I buy a new toothbrush if I could get the used one for free
Definitely go for defy+, for "+" means something more
Ok guys, after a extreemly difficult mathematical calculation of which one you guys liked the most I just bought myself a refurbished (ow boy) defy+ on ebay.
New adventure coming up it seems.
Thx all and have a fantastic weekend!
I would also definitely advice to go for Moto Defy and not Defy+ with red lens because most ROMS are made for Defy and so have a huge amount of support and updates for the phone. And Defy+ is just a factory overclocked Defy with a better battery!
Once you get the defy, please do post your comments on how you feel about its waterproof properties.
Hi All,
Sorry to post this query here, but i didn't find any suitable thread to put my post.
I am planning to buy a new phone so bit confused between Defy plus and Sony Neo-V. Like Defy plus because of its water and scratch resistant body. But after reading the dev forum i found that it will not have the complete ICS feature and Sony Neo-V already had an official ICS released.
Kindly suggest if any other phone is there with good feature and ICS support.
Thanks in advance.
obviously, one V is better
neo v has better processor, gpu, same size and resolution screen (but brighter and better), MUCH better software support, amazingly optimized stock roms, and its cyanogenmod supported (while the defy+ is not, at least not officially). basically, the only thing that you have with defy+ missing from the neo v, is the ip67 certificate. your choice.
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Neo V
I love my defy but the locked bootloader is a pain. So if you want to use custom roms better go for the Neo V.
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neo v has better processor, gpu, same size and resolution screen (but brighter and better), MUCH better software support, amazingly optimized stock roms, and its cyanogenmod supported (while the defy+ is not, at least not officially). basically, the only thing that you have with defy+ missing from the neo v, is the ip67 certificate. your choice.
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I partially agree, TI omap chipsets are better than qualcomm in my opinion. For everything else Neo V is better.
Even a blind person will choose Neo V. Defy/Defy+ is gud but moto really sucks. Sony Ericsson phones are always gud bcoz 1.) official updates 2.) FXP team
If u still want to go with Defy+, u will surely feel like a handicapped in future.
The only bad that I see with Neo V is the ladies look
To summarize, Neo V scores more for official ICS. Even camera is better, if that matters to you..
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for your response. I have ordered my first android( Neo V) and eagerly waiting for the deliver.
Good choice
Never Buy A motorola in your life, i just got my defy broken since there is no battery fix for defy+ battery because BL is locked, sony gives you unlocked BL, Enjoy your new phone!!!!!!1
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Never Buy A motorola in your life, i just got my defy broken since there is no battery fix for defy+ battery because BL is locked, sony gives you unlocked BL, Enjoy your new phone!!!!!!1
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Can't get what you mean by broken defy with battery fix, but the locked BL is really a good thing when it comes for novice end-users.. It means no matter how bad you screwed it, there's a good chance you can bring it back to life..
Doesn't matter from where I send it, what matters is written above.
Hey, guys!
So, I know that internally Milestone2 and DEFY/DEFY+ are the same (chipset, CPU, GPU, camera module) and I'm absolutely okay with that. Latest CM10 builds work incredibly good on the DEFY. So, I know I would be happy with Milestone2 on CM10 experience pretty much the same
But! Other than internals... How good is the Milestone2? How good is the build quality? Are there some common failures that occur? Is the keyboard good? The keyboard sliding mechanism is built to last?
I really love my DEFY+, but I would LOVE to have the actual keyboard. Other than that, i see that M2 has a dedicated camera button, that's a nice touch, too
Please share some experience! And no need for anyone to tell me that it's old/outdated, it's still a good phone and it's definitely good enough for me, so please no recommendations on other phones, just your experiences with the M2! :fingers-crossed:
If you just use CM10 its ok..
Milestone 2 have not too much modding like Defy+ (on roms variation).
And the keyboard for me is fine.. some user sometimes have a debounce problem but its has a "apk" solution
Sorry for my English
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JoseBerga said:
If you just use CM10 its ok..
Milestone 2 have not too much modding like Defy+ (on roms variation).
And the keyboard for me is fine.. some user sometimes have a debounce problem but its has a "apk" solution
Sorry for my English
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CM10 is all I need, yes, and since I see that the builds are pretty much the same as the one for DEFY (how could they not be, it's the same hardware) I know it'll be great
Debounce problem... Please explain more, I have no idea what that means
Thanks for the reply!
*EDIT* Got it! Debounce = double pressing Okay. I guess it doesn't happen on new phones? Cause I'm looking at buying a new one. But since there is a fix available anyway... Not a big issue, I'd say!
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CM10 is all I need, yes, and since I see that the builds are pretty much the same as the one for DEFY (how could they not be, it's the same hardware) I know it'll be great
Debounce problem... Please explain more, I have no idea what that means
Thanks for the reply!
*EDIT* Got it! Debounce = double pressing Okay. I guess it doesn't happen on new phones? Cause I'm looking at buying a new one. But since there is a fix available anyway... Not a big issue, I'd say!
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there is a fix that SOLVES the problem for sure.
Search for "MS2 Debounce-debug.apk"
I bought MS2 because at that time it was the only smartphone with stand alone GPS and real keyboard (big +).
That means you have GPS and don't have to make data traffic in roaming , can be pretty expensive if you travel around continent.
Dropped a few times on stone floor , wood floor , > survived . The mechanism is bent on one side due to excessive pressure, still works.
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Dropped a few times on stone floor , wood floor , > survived . The mechanism is bent on one side due to excessive pressure, still works.
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So it's bent because of the drops or because of usage (how old is it, if this is the case?) or every M2 is just like that since brand new? If it's like that since it comes out of the factory... Does it disturb the usage anyhow?
Thank you!
Is 2 years old , comes OK from factory , mine is bent because is under my ass sometimes
Does not disturb the usage, but the space between the 2 sides, is not that equal as it was out of the box.
I'm 84kg ,... if this is relevant ))))))
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Is 2 years old , comes OK from factory , mine is bent because is under my ass sometimes
Does not disturb the usage, but the space between the 2 sides, is not that equal as it was out of the box.
I'm 84kg ,... if this is relevant ))))))
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I'm 64kg, so I guess it would sustain my a$$ a bit better (no offense intended, of course!)
It's sounds like it's (the phone ) tough enough for me (not meaning just my a$$)
*EDIT* A question I forgot earlier... How's the battery? I see that it's merely 1400mAh, which is smaller than the standard DEFY one (1540mAh) and I guess I'm kinda used to my + version (1700mAh) :/
The specs say that M2 has got a lot longer stand-by and talk times than the DEFY, though. How is that possible?
mine is 1390mAh , what can I say ,.... I'm charging once in 2/3 days ... sometimes 4 i guess ,.. but u have to replace stock froyo for that.
Sure you can run empty in less than 1 day if 5/6 applications are running on wireless + display + keyboard used for hours.
I don't talk to much, twice a day would be average+ 1 or 2 hours of wireless / day . For the rest of the time wireless and background data are off.
Alarm rings & vibrates every morning for at least 30 min ))) once in 5 minutes, or 10 ?? I will never find out I guess , I'm too sleepy )
Scheduled airplane mode from 2:30 a.m. to 8:00 a.m.
Hope it helps
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I'm 64kg, so I guess it would sustain my a$$ a bit better (no offense intended, of course!)
It's sounds like it's (the phone ) tough enough for me (not meaning just my a$$)
*EDIT* A question I forgot earlier... How's the battery? I see that it's merely 1400mAh, which is smaller than the standard DEFY one (1540mAh) and I guess I'm kinda used to my + version (1700mAh) :/
The specs say that M2 has got a lot longer stand-by and talk times than the DEFY, though. How is that possible?
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The battery is not great, specially after a few dozens rom flashing around the clock and different tries, but there is a 2400mah battery the same size as the original one you can find around and it's cheap (it was something like 9/10£ with shipping for me, despite me living outside uk) that i'm testing right now.
Battery duration is quite better, and the battery is detected normally for charge capacity, prediction and such.
On top of that people messed around/tried different governors/voltages and got an undervolt setting that gives quite good result and is stable.
Overall the Tezet's CM10 (and sfc3001's CM9 despite a bit lagging behind now due to him being busy IRL) are really good and stable with a low number of bugs/problems that are *mostly* problems present on DEFY/DEFY+ because overall the MS2 CM roms are port of the Defy ones (with some tweaks like hardware acceleration, and so on coming from other Moto phones like the MS1 or the Atrix from memory).
Answer to your question is - No, don't buy it.
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Answer to your question is - No, don't buy it.
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Why?
Ashareth, thanks for the reply! :good:
Phones without moving parts are more reliable than phones using flex cables.
Debounce is not a problem here, simply because I don't use hw keyboard. Swype is faster than hw keyboard and since I don't open the m2, will be harder to break the lcd flex - that is essential to use the phone.
Hi
IMHO you get great value for a really cheap price. I paid 200€ without contract on amazon.de
basically because it was one of the very few available with HW keyboard. Non rooted I was very disappointed mainly
due to the low speed and bloatware. But performance and experience with CM10 is great!
Sum : Best HW keyboard phone for that price range
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Why?
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Poor battery, bad performance, no good rom alternatives. I got this phone to replace my old HTC Diamond, now I see that old htc was more reliable than this. MM2 is my first and last Motorola product that I paid for.
I still like the MS2 (hey, it's got a hw keyboard!), but I'm not too enthusiastic about CM10 on it.
I mean, I really appreciate tezet's current work (also sfc3001's CM9 before, and tezet's CM7), I love CM10 per se, but I think it's pushing too far the MS2: even with a 1.2GHz OC processor, smartassV2, SIO scheduler, and less than 30 apps installed it's sometimes almost too laggy for me.
When I open the dialer or the contacts app, I want it to launch (almost) immediately, not after seconds.
It also kills the possibility of a full multi-task operation, constantly having only 50-100MB free ram.
Anyway, if you decide to buy it, and you're not too addicted to CM10's bonuses (as I, sadly, am), I'd suggest to try CM7 by tezet, which IMHO can give you the best of this phone's hw-sw performance combo.
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I still like the MS2 (hey, it's got a hw keyboard!), but I'm not too enthusiastic about CM10 on it.
I mean, I really appreciate tezet's current work (also sfc3001's CM9 before, and tezet's CM7), I love CM10 per se, but I think it's pushing too far the MS2: even with a 1.2GHz OC processor, smartassV2, SIO scheduler, and less than 30 apps installed it's sometimes almost too laggy for me.
When I open the dialer or the contacts app, I want it to launch (almost) immediately, not after seconds.
It also kills the possibility of a full multi-task operation, constantly having only 50-100MB free ram.
Anyway, if you decide to buy it, and you're not too addicted to CM10's bonuses (as I, sadly, am), I'd suggest to try CM7 by tezet, which IMHO can give you the best of this phone's hw-sw performance combo.
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I'm +1 this. Totally agree.
CM10 is great (I'm also too much comfortable with CM10's features :/ ), but it IS slow. It is not that slow, as stock Froyo ROM of course (that was really pain in the... ), but I think CM10 is even slower than stock GB
(but hey! I have to say, that's not tezet's fault of course... JB is just too much for M2 HW probably...)
I would recommend CM7 too or stock GB (or ROMs based on it) if you don't rely on CM10 functions... I will probably go back to one of these too, since I really need (and like) speed and smoothness... CM10 is great, but definitely not fast or smooth - and I don't even mention the slowness, in case you are out of free RAM...
Cm7 in my opinion it's the best rom for our miles2. After the last update, the battery is much better than previous version.
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Honestly, as much as the MS2 is good (great) you should look out for another phone currently, because there is better (more recent) choices out there for roughly the same price.
If you buy it new, it's still prohibitive since most vendors still list it around 300€ new.
If it's used, unless you manage to find one under 100€ it's not worth it (most of them are sold close to 180/200€ from what i've seen).
You're better of going after a Galaxy Nexus/Galaxy SII if you don't need the hw keyboard. If you do need it it's another question since there is not much choices out there, and MS2 is still one of the best.
@ Ashareth: Sorry, but when you are talking about "better (more recent) choices out there for roughly the same price." - do you refer to smartphones in general
or with HW keyboard ?
In my opionion the choice of HW keyboard phones is very, very limited sadly. Not that I am trying to defend here the milestone 2, but I am seeking myself for a potential
alternative. My contract ends soon and I could get cheaply a new phone, but with HW keyboard ? Bummer, there is not much out there, especially outside the US
Another point, I would be interested in would be the speed of CM7. I am running CM10 at the moment but couldnt run CM7 due to 2.36 kernel. Is the speed comparable with the MS2Ginger ? Its the only one I tested so far ....
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Hey, guys!
So, I know that internally Milestone2 and DEFY/DEFY+ are the same (chipset, CPU, GPU, camera module) and I'm absolutely okay with that. Latest CM10 builds work incredibly good on the DEFY. So, I know I would be happy with Milestone2 on CM10 experience pretty much the same
But! Other than internals... How good is the Milestone2? How good is the build quality? Are there some common failures that occur? Is the keyboard good? The keyboard sliding mechanism is built to last?
I really love my DEFY+, but I would LOVE to have the actual keyboard. Other than that, i see that M2 has a dedicated camera button, that's a nice touch, too
Please share some experience! And no need for anyone to tell me that it's old/outdated, it's still a good phone and it's definitely good enough for me, so please no recommendations on other phones, just your experiences with the M2! :fingers-crossed:
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why do you want to buy a machine two years ago.Even it s just locked with a out-date system.
Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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Thanks for the input. I absolutley ADORE my bravo... I currently have Quarxs 4.0 Installed and am happy with it. The only think I dislike about it is the camera... kinda wish it had flash and was 5mpx... that was the major reason for changing.
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However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena.
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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I did not know that. Thanks! I agree on the better camera with flash though. If I took more pictures I would pick defy over bravo.
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
What do you think about Pimp My Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
I've been using it without any issues and it has various init.d scripts and tons of other tweaks along with it. It's worked with each CM rom I've used, so I'm wondering if that will save you some work, rather than have you write all the scripts yourself.
That's my two cents. Good luck and thanks! You never fail to impress us!
Thanks!
skeevy420 said:
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
marcelarr said:
Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
skeevy420 said:
Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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I plan on it , but CM10 on the Bravo is gonna take a back seat for the moment. I've put 2+ weeks into getting it to function properly and haven't made any headway on it....I gotta get to updating PA since its starting to fall way behind. As is, the only way I can improve my Android knowledge is to get a uart board (for kernel debugging) and some books on C and Java. Merging code is one thing, writing it is a whole different story.
//Plus I only have one battery for two phones....Need to get another battery for my Bravo. Also, here's a pic of my Bravo so you all know what I've been working with for the past 6 months.
Hi there, I'm new to the defy+ scene (not the android scene though) and after browsing for a while through the defy android development section I couldn't really tell which are the main-most popular custom roms for the DEFY+ (plus) ICS or JB versions (no GB) also AOKP/AOSP.
I'm looking for a rom that is very stable smooth (not necessarily the most powerful-fastest) and has good battery life.
Could anyone please help me out listing the pro & cons of the most popular custom rom for defy+ (like MS2Ginger, MIUI, CM9, aokp aosp..this list is by no means complete, so in case i'm missing some others, please let me know) thank you very much and sorry for the noobish request :silly:
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Sorry for posting in the wrong section. Nowt that thread has been moved, could please answer my question?
This question has been asked so many times :silly:
Just take your time and search this forum. For example look here
I'm using myself this ROM. Different people, different wishes
My advice: download and try some of these ROMs and if you don't like it, try another one
in first place, a topic like this sounds like fishing for me...:cyclops:
mate, try miui v4 by stefan brown.
i've tryed many others roms before, and for sure this is the most stable, fast and trustable one so far.
i've tryed CMX for a while, but it lags a lot and still got random reboots.
Thanks guys for the suggestions, and what about CM9 ICS for defy+?
If you want speed,good battery life and true android experience ,you must try [CM10] Jelly Bean Cannon v8.1.1 .
And if you like MIUI style , there is Moto Ice Gun Edition V2.02 (CM10). But its not updated frequently ..thats the only disappointment
Then there is [ICS] CM9.1 Android 4.0.4 by Epsylon3 ..which is being reported by its users as most stable ics rom ..although i have never used it :silly:
But as far as my experience goes,the most logical thing right now is to stick with CM7.2 because cm9 and cm10 uses a lot of RAM , and no matter how much you tweak it , it will be the same (laggy,low battery life,slow app switching rate).
And the most stable and performance based rom according to me is [CM7] WhiteRabbitNextGen Edition 2.1.1..i myself am using it right now...its best for games which tend to lag a lot in cm9/10...temple run2 plays without any lag...and we can switch app to app instantly...try it and u'll never turn to any other rom
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If you want speed,good battery life and true android experience ,you must try [CM10] Jelly Bean Cannon v8.1.1 . But its not updated frequently ..thats the only disappointment
And if you like MIUI style , there is Moto Ice Gun Edition V2.02 (CM10).
Then there is [ICS] CM9.1 Android 4.0.4 by Epsylon3 ..which is being reported by its users as most stable ics rom ..although i have never used it :silly:
But as far as my experience goes,the most logical thing right now is to stick with CM7.2 because cm9 and cm10 uses a lot of RAM , and no matter how much you tweak it , it will be the same (laggy,low battery life,slow app switching rate).
And the most stable and performance based rom according to me is [CM7] WhiteRabbitNextGen Edition 2.1.1..i myself am using it right now...its best for games which tend to lag a lot in cm9/10...temple run2 plays without any lag...and we can switch app to app instantly...try it and u'll never turn to any other rom
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thanks for the info mate! Also I was considering stefan braun miui mod...heard it has good battery life, it's smooth and stable!
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thanks for the info mate! Also I was considering stefan braun miui mod...heard it has good battery life, it's smooth and stable!
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i haven't used it...cuz i dont like the miui style altogether but if you find it stable,good on perfomance and having decent battery life ...do share it with your clock/vsel values