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[Q] Which Defy to get nowadays

Ok guys, first a bit of an intro.
I have a desire HD, a HD2 and a ZTE blade. Ok, I am addicted to say the least.
Now I saw this phone and might want to get rid of my ZTE. It seems like I will need to go cycle more and need a bit of phone that can handle a bit of rain etc.
The HD2 is to play with (bought it cheap and fixed it). The Desire HD I use for internet/gps and the ZTE is my workphone.
Now I have been looking around and ... djeez, red or green lens and defy+.
I think buying second hand might be a risk but on the other hand it seems that more custom roms are being developed for the 'regular' Defy.
Any hints or thoughts on what to buy and advantages/disadvantages?

Go for a regular defy red lense. Then over clock to defy+ stats. Enjoy it. I love showing people my awesome "water resistant" phone. Which I always drop in there drink n drink it. <3 free drinks.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

Get the regular defy, there is no reason to get another one.
The Defy + is almost a regular defy, but with better cpu(overclock helps)
The Defy + has Gingerbread (custom rom)
The other Defy versions, like defy mini are too slow. As far as i know cpu is at 800mHz wich is the same as the "regular" Defy, but dont know about overclock on this phone.
Regular defy has the greatest developers. Try getting a red lensed one, cause you are able too upgrade to gingerbread kernel (read tutorials) and use a great cm9 version with working camera. Green lensed Defy doesnt have the possibility, too use gb kernel, cause it just doesnt support this camera. Locked Bootloader makes it impossible (at this time) to change the Kernel.
So try to get red lensed regular defy and you are goin too have the best

gplock said:
Go for a regular defy red lense. Then over clock to defy+ stats. Enjoy it. I love showing people my awesome "water resistant" phone. Which I always drop in there drink n drink it. <3 free drinks.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
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LOL
I recommend a DEFY+ if you can find it at a same price as a regular DEFY (as I did, somehow).
DEFY+ = red lens (bayer) defy + a bigger battery
Stock Gingerbread on DEFY+ is quite awesome in my opinion, as it's really fast and everything works... Plus, you get 720p. If you go for a regular DEFY you might end up with a SOC (green lens) one with which you wouldn't be able to use Motorola's Gingerbread or Gingerbread kernel ROM's (we here with Moto's have locked bootloaders and are stuck with stock kernels) or have 720p recording.
MIUI is the only ROM that is Froyo only, but if you get a 2.3.5 or 2.3.4 DEFY+ (or some of the first 2.3.6) you will still be able to down flash to Froyo. If you're a MIUI fan...
Other than that, both CM7 and CM9 are available for Gingerbread and are the same as the ones for Froyo (features/speed/stability/everything-wise).
Hope I haven't confused too much Just don't go for the DEFY mini, that one sucks!

Ok thx guys. I love to have different opinions on 1 phone (which are actually 3 different ones)
And yes I plan to earn my money back by dropping it into a glass of water
I saw a second hand one with scratches on the screen for 160€. Now this is another stupid thing, I want one with no scratches which actually doesn't make any sense does it? Why would you want to buy a landrover jeep from somebody that doesn't have a single scratch or dent on it.

Well go for it on Amazon.
I think the Prices are ok. But just have a view
Defy: http://www.amazon.de/Motorola-Smartphone-Touchscreen-wassergeschützt-staubdicht/dp/B00429ZAUK
Defy +: http://www.amazon.de/Motorola-Smart...gapixel/dp/B005DZ1S8K/ref=tag_stp_s2_edpp_url

lukesan said:
Ok thx guys. I love to have different opinions on 1 phone (which are actually 3 different ones)
And yes I plan to earn my money back by dropping it into a glass of water
I saw a second hand one with scratches on the screen for 160€. Now this is another stupid thing, I want one with no scratches which actually doesn't make any sense does it? Why would you want to buy a landrover jeep from somebody that doesn't have a single scratch or dent on it.
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Yeah right. Why should I buy a new toothbrush if I could get the used one for free
Definitely go for defy+, for "+" means something more

Ok guys, after a extreemly difficult mathematical calculation of which one you guys liked the most I just bought myself a refurbished (ow boy) defy+ on ebay.
New adventure coming up it seems.
Thx all and have a fantastic weekend!

I would also definitely advice to go for Moto Defy and not Defy+ with red lens because most ROMS are made for Defy and so have a huge amount of support and updates for the phone. And Defy+ is just a factory overclocked Defy with a better battery!
Once you get the defy, please do post your comments on how you feel about its waterproof properties.

[Q] Motorola defy or xperia active

can anyone suggest me which is best in:water resistance ,battery life , development

The defy screen is higher. For the other stuffs, I don't know because I don't test the Xperia. I think they are identical. BUT the Xperia will receive ics officially and the defy don't (only support ics by developers like cyanogen). So, the ics support is better with the Xperia.
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Defy is way better. CPU is almost the same but Defy is way more quality made, developemt on xda is awesome cause main devs contact users and they are really tyring hard so much that i didnt see it on any other forum for another device. ICS is working good on Defy but its still prealpha and its coming to beta phase. Xperia has a smaller screen and it probably wont get ICS that includes all features. go for defy+
Swyped off my Amazing Defy using ICS

thanks dude, what about battery?

ali_ge said:
thanks dude, what about battery?
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How would you use the phone? I'm getting 3 days on my defy+ with an hour of music, half an hour wifi, 100sms and a minute talk time (all that per one day). I'm satisfied... Both me and my brother are, actually

thanks again for quick response ,but in ksa defy plus is not available ,only defy is available .What about defy not plus or can i use defy + battery on defy.

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Bravo versus Defy: ROM

Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?

marcelarr said:
Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!

Dr. Orange said:
I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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Thanks for the input. I absolutley ADORE my bravo... I currently have Quarxs 4.0 Installed and am happy with it. The only think I dislike about it is the camera... kinda wish it had flash and was 5mpx... that was the major reason for changing.

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However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena.
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!

marcelarr said:
Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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I did not know that. Thanks! I agree on the better camera with flash though. If I took more pictures I would pick defy over bravo.

I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.

What do you think about Pimp My Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
I've been using it without any issues and it has various init.d scripts and tons of other tweaks along with it. It's worked with each CM rom I've used, so I'm wondering if that will save you some work, rather than have you write all the scripts yourself.
That's my two cents. Good luck and thanks! You never fail to impress us!

Thanks!
skeevy420 said:
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!

marcelarr said:
Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.

skeevy420 said:
Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.

josuearisty said:
Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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I plan on it , but CM10 on the Bravo is gonna take a back seat for the moment. I've put 2+ weeks into getting it to function properly and haven't made any headway on it....I gotta get to updating PA since its starting to fall way behind. As is, the only way I can improve my Android knowledge is to get a uart board (for kernel debugging) and some books on C and Java. Merging code is one thing, writing it is a whole different story.
//Plus I only have one battery for two phones....Need to get another battery for my Bravo. Also, here's a pic of my Bravo so you all know what I've been working with for the past 6 months.

[IDEA]Moto X Port - Xperia Sp?

I was just wondering about the poor development for our device, I would be glade about developing but I only know the basics, looling other forums the have pretty lots of kernels and roms and ports from many xperias, we only have Z2 port :/
Okay my primary wondering is about this: It's suposed we have the same processor as the Moto x, except for the contextual LPCs, the same GPU, even the same resolution, an It's better-optimized than our SPlendid phone, and even better! It has KitKat, so why don't developers at least try to port a rom from it? We don't even lose anything, but we could win lots of things, what do you think devs? Do not blame me with: You're stupid, maybe I am but maybe not!
I will continue investigating, btw thnks if you took your time for reading this crazy Idea

autentiknolep said:
I was just wondering about the poor development for our device, I would be glade about developing but I only know the basics, looling other forums the have pretty lots of kernels and roms and ports from many xperias, we only have Z2 port :/
Okay my primary wondering is about this: It's suposed we have the same processor as the Moto x, except for the contextual LPCs, the same GPU, even the same resolution, an It's better-optimized than our SPlendid phone, and even better! It has KitKat, so why don't developers at least try to port a rom from it? We don't even lose anything, but we could win lots of things, what do you think devs? Do not blame me with: You're stupid, maybe I am but maybe not!
I will continue investigating, btw thnks if you took your time for reading this crazy Idea
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why you dont try CM11?

autentiknolep said:
I was just wondering about the poor development for our device, I would be glade about developing but I only know the basics, looling other forums the have pretty lots of kernels and roms and ports from many xperias, we only have Z2 port :/
Okay my primary wondering is about this: It's suposed we have the same processor as the Moto x, except for the contextual LPCs, the same GPU, even the same resolution, an It's better-optimized than our SPlendid phone, and even better! It has KitKat, so why don't developers at least try to port a rom from it? We don't even lose anything, but we could win lots of things, what do you think devs? Do not blame me with: You're stupid, maybe I am but maybe not!
I will continue investigating, btw thnks if you took your time for reading this crazy Idea
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hey.. i formerly was Xperia ZR user.. i switch to XSP bcos of development of XSP its really good.. if this phone u call poor development u should see ZR.. much more worse!! Xperia SP n Moto X was build on the same chip.. but Moto X is actually minor upgrade version of XSP processor.. its not the same.. and again.. motoX actually a basic phone.. much like cyanogen.. plus GEL and active display.. if u prefer that than flash 4.4.2 carbon ROM it has everything what motoX offer n many more~~ for me Cyanogen 10.2 is enough~~

Allright allright bad idea I tought Moto X had less bugs and yes you're right at least we have little active development, not like One X ough, at least we have many masters like DooMLorD and many as him ^^ Glad about it thanks for reading maybe I should delete this post xD

LG G2 questions of an GS3 guy

Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!

beeeto said:
Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!
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1. AOSP works fine, you have bucketloads of ROMs out there for the G2 (check Original Development forum).
2. Camera is perfectly fine on both stock and AOSP. Haven't read about any issues.
But seriously, stock ROM + Xposed. You don't need much more than that.

beeeto said:
Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!
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Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!

beeeto said:
Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!
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1. Well for stock roms there is dorimanx kernel. It has faux sound, overclock, undervolt, etc.
2. With dorimanx you can overclock up to max 2.8 GHz.
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beeeto said:
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
Kind regards!
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s3's camera doesnt even come close to the cam on the g2 ! the quality is unbelievable. just note that night shots do get distorted when its very very dark ! but that happens on all phone cameras so its fine
oh and also cm11 rom doesnt support UHD and 120 FPS slowmo addons i bought this cus of the camera features n battery backup. i cant let it just go

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Where did you hear that rooting doesn't void warranty on Europe?
Are you completely 100% sure?
Cause I'm very interested in knowing if this is true.
Only rooting or also installing roms? Installing roms and custom recoveries doesn't void the warranty?
Thanks!!

My G2 is awesome. I keep it running stock ROM because I love what LG has done. If you've never tried it before, give it a chance before moving to CM 11. I have Nova installed and using that instead of LG launcher but other than that I really do enjoy all the features that come from LG =).
I compared my phone to a Nexus 5 side by side and it was pretty much the same speed to open apps (Except Viber, it was faster on N5, no idea why..). It's a very smooth phone, even when running LG UI .
My brother has the S3 and it's a good smooth phone but my G2 is an overall better phone.
You won't regret upgrading to it. Just make sure you get one without a touchscreen bug. I was lucky when I bought mine from someone else, it didn't have the touchscreen bug and still does not.
Camera is not the best and I'm considering trading for an S5 or Z2 just for that reason. I would actually go for the Find 7 but a bit too expensive and big. I prefer the camera on the S4 (I had that phone prior to the G2 and I also had the S4 Zoom). The S4 Zoom was the best one with awesome night shots since you can control shutter speed. Sadly we can't control shutter speed on G2 (on Oppo Find 7 we can and K zoom also). Day shots are good on G2 while some shots can really look awesome. It does bokeh effect better than the S4 and looks spectacular for a phone.
Low light shots can be either ok or bad. Too much over-processing going on and white balance isn't the best. I still love my LG G2 though!
I am using xdabbeb's camera mod, by the way, which I suggest you do also if you get the phone.

Nevermind, figured out by my self, thank you!