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Does Motorola Defy Mini have green lens of SOC , If yes, it would be good for xda developers to port out a good rom for original defy of green lens.
It has Gingerbread 2.3.
are you seriously talking about porting to a device barely submitted to the FCC ?
its going to be released in India this week.
ofmb said:
are you seriously talking about porting to a device barely submitted to the FCC ?
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Nevergheless the source code could help our devs
exactly... Hope it has a kernel which is designed for green lens... other things our xda experts can manage !!
So, is there any new info? Does it has a green lense?
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Something smaller than actual 3,7inch screen must be so goddamn uncomfortable to use.
Suchy! said:
Something smaller than actual 3,7inch screen must be so goddamn uncomfortable to use.
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Thats exactly what I thought, too! And the most weird thing about this phone, is the fact that it'll have Gingerbread running! Its curious because, I'm sure, it'll never have more power than a normal Defy, but the reason why the Defy hasn't got Gingerbread was to not have enough power to run GB. This is kinda odd, isn't it?
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Thats exactly what I thought, too! And the most weird thing about this phone, is the fact that it'll have Gingerbread running! Its curious because, I'm sure, it'll never have more power than a normal Defy, but the reason why the Defy hasn't got Gingerbread was to not have enough power to run GB. This is kinda odd, isn't it?
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Bull****, that's the reason Motorola gave for coming out with Defy+, Defy has by far the power needed to run GB and ICS. Defy and Defy+ have only one hardware difference: red lense. SAME CPU, just an overclock (which you might have noticed, is done with 80% of Defys on xda)
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Bull****, that's the reason Motorola gave for coming out with Defy+, Defy has by far the power needed to run GB and ICS. Defy and Defy+ have only one hardware difference: red lense. SAME CPU, just an overclock (which you might have noticed, is done with 80% of Defys on xda)
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Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
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nitrous² said:
Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
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motorola wants your money, and your life, Defy y Defy+ are the same including prosessor the only thing that change is the kernel and OC thats it, check it for your self www.pdadb.net
nitrous² said:
Sry for not being more specific. I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance. It's not me, stating such crappy reasons.
Another question, do you know something about a Defy+ with green lense? I'm confused, because my cousin has got one. He bought it a week ago. I cant check it, because he's not in Germany atm.
If I helped you, please feel free to hit the thx button.
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Defy+ does not have green lense (SoC module), it has Red lense and only red ones (Bayer module). That's why the official gingerbread ROM (for Defy+) and custom ROMs based on it don't work with the Defy Green Lens camera.
Defys have Green Lenses (A small amount exist with Red Lenses), the Defy+ has exclusively Red Lense
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Defy+ does not have green lense (SoC module), it has Red lense and only red ones (Bayer module). That's why the official gingerbread ROM (for Defy+) and custom ROMs based on it don't work with the Defy Green Lens camera.
Defys have Green Lenses (A small amount exist with Red Lenses), the Defy+ has exclusively Red Lense
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Can you please define the difference between the two modules (not only the lens color), you called them SoC and Bayer?!
IMHO both are SoC Modules from different manufacturer - if you have other informarion please let me know!
Thanks
btw. this should be the 'red lens - bayer filter array' module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=178
Update: as of this document 'red lens' its non-SoC module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=140
but i wouldnt call it Bayer Module... it should be called non-SoC Module...
Here are some papers if someone would like to know more about the red-lens non-SoC Hardware:
http://www.trulydisplays.com/ccm/specs/5.0M%20Sensor%20Aptina%20MT9P012%20Spec.pdf
lord0815 said:
Can you please define the difference between the two modules (not only the lens color), you called them SoC and Bayer?!
IMHO both are SoC Modules from different manufacturer - if you have other informarion please let me know!
Thanks
btw. this should be the 'red lens - bayer filter array' module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=178
Update: as of this document 'red lens' its non-SoC module http://www.aptina.com/assets/downloadDocument.do?id=140
but i wouldnt call it Bayer Module... it should be called non-SoC Module...
Here are some papers if someone would like to know more about the red-lens non-SoC Hardware:
http://www.trulydisplays.com/ccm/specs/5.0M Sensor Aptina MT9P012 Spec.pdf
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Bayer is the module's name in the logcat under CameraCommon. That's the most reliable way to check which module you have. There's plenty of threads on that if you like
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nitrous² said:
I wanted to tell, MOTOROLA told; the reason why a normal Defy won't run GB is because its weak performance.
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Stupid Motorola, so a Defy Mini, with a HVGA screen and a worser CPU, does fit 2.3??
WTF?!
(Not against you Nitrous, just against Motorola )
But I would trust to Motorola, that they release it with 2.2 or even 2.1, with a shame.
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its going to be released in India this week.
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I bet it was Shah Rukh Khan who has blackmailed moto to release a cheaper device. He threatened to never use a moto device on his movies again....sry if this sounds stupid, but I cant figure out the reason of this, in my opinion, useless device development/release.
Is it just me, or does my theory sounds a little racist??...
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lol no way i m going to buy this even if they provide it for Re 1 also lolzzzzzzzzz
News articles about "Defy Mini" are talking about XT320 model. But Motorola didn't mention "DEFY" word in description of XT320 model on official page:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT320-CN-ZH.alt
It have "Cortex A5, 600MHz processor" (probably not from TI)
while MB525 & MB526 uses TI OMAP 3630 which is Cortex A7
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News articles about "Defy Mini" are talking about XT320 model. But Motorola didn't mention "DEFY" word in description of XT320 model on official page:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT320-CN-ZH.alt
It have "Cortex A5, 600MHz processor" (probably not from TI)
while MB525 & MB526 uses TI OMAP 3630 which is Cortex A7
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The page claims that the phone is "splash proof, dust proof and scratch resistant", so I suppose the "Defy Mini" name is just coined by the media due to speculation?
it looks like defy mini is completely different from regular defys. arm a5 or arm v6 is completely different from cortex a8 we have and its driver, even if it is for soc module will be incompatible with ours. so no help for us green lens defy owners
can anyone suggest me which is best in:water resistance ,battery life , development
The defy screen is higher. For the other stuffs, I don't know because I don't test the Xperia. I think they are identical. BUT the Xperia will receive ics officially and the defy don't (only support ics by developers like cyanogen). So, the ics support is better with the Xperia.
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Defy is way better. CPU is almost the same but Defy is way more quality made, developemt on xda is awesome cause main devs contact users and they are really tyring hard so much that i didnt see it on any other forum for another device. ICS is working good on Defy but its still prealpha and its coming to beta phase. Xperia has a smaller screen and it probably wont get ICS that includes all features. go for defy+
Swyped off my Amazing Defy using ICS
thanks dude, what about battery?
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thanks dude, what about battery?
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How would you use the phone? I'm getting 3 days on my defy+ with an hour of music, half an hour wifi, 100sms and a minute talk time (all that per one day). I'm satisfied... Both me and my brother are, actually
thanks again for quick response ,but in ksa defy plus is not available ,only defy is available .What about defy not plus or can i use defy + battery on defy.
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Hey, guys!
So, I know that internally Milestone2 and DEFY/DEFY+ are the same (chipset, CPU, GPU, camera module) and I'm absolutely okay with that. Latest CM10 builds work incredibly good on the DEFY. So, I know I would be happy with Milestone2 on CM10 experience pretty much the same
But! Other than internals... How good is the Milestone2? How good is the build quality? Are there some common failures that occur? Is the keyboard good? The keyboard sliding mechanism is built to last?
I really love my DEFY+, but I would LOVE to have the actual keyboard. Other than that, i see that M2 has a dedicated camera button, that's a nice touch, too
Please share some experience! And no need for anyone to tell me that it's old/outdated, it's still a good phone and it's definitely good enough for me, so please no recommendations on other phones, just your experiences with the M2! :fingers-crossed:
If you just use CM10 its ok..
Milestone 2 have not too much modding like Defy+ (on roms variation).
And the keyboard for me is fine.. some user sometimes have a debounce problem but its has a "apk" solution
Sorry for my English
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JoseBerga said:
If you just use CM10 its ok..
Milestone 2 have not too much modding like Defy+ (on roms variation).
And the keyboard for me is fine.. some user sometimes have a debounce problem but its has a "apk" solution
Sorry for my English
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CM10 is all I need, yes, and since I see that the builds are pretty much the same as the one for DEFY (how could they not be, it's the same hardware) I know it'll be great
Debounce problem... Please explain more, I have no idea what that means
Thanks for the reply!
*EDIT* Got it! Debounce = double pressing Okay. I guess it doesn't happen on new phones? Cause I'm looking at buying a new one. But since there is a fix available anyway... Not a big issue, I'd say!
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CM10 is all I need, yes, and since I see that the builds are pretty much the same as the one for DEFY (how could they not be, it's the same hardware) I know it'll be great
Debounce problem... Please explain more, I have no idea what that means
Thanks for the reply!
*EDIT* Got it! Debounce = double pressing Okay. I guess it doesn't happen on new phones? Cause I'm looking at buying a new one. But since there is a fix available anyway... Not a big issue, I'd say!
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there is a fix that SOLVES the problem for sure.
Search for "MS2 Debounce-debug.apk"
I bought MS2 because at that time it was the only smartphone with stand alone GPS and real keyboard (big +).
That means you have GPS and don't have to make data traffic in roaming , can be pretty expensive if you travel around continent.
Dropped a few times on stone floor , wood floor , > survived . The mechanism is bent on one side due to excessive pressure, still works.
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Dropped a few times on stone floor , wood floor , > survived . The mechanism is bent on one side due to excessive pressure, still works.
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So it's bent because of the drops or because of usage (how old is it, if this is the case?) or every M2 is just like that since brand new? If it's like that since it comes out of the factory... Does it disturb the usage anyhow?
Thank you!
Is 2 years old , comes OK from factory , mine is bent because is under my ass sometimes
Does not disturb the usage, but the space between the 2 sides, is not that equal as it was out of the box.
I'm 84kg ,... if this is relevant ))))))
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Is 2 years old , comes OK from factory , mine is bent because is under my ass sometimes
Does not disturb the usage, but the space between the 2 sides, is not that equal as it was out of the box.
I'm 84kg ,... if this is relevant ))))))
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I'm 64kg, so I guess it would sustain my a$$ a bit better (no offense intended, of course!)
It's sounds like it's (the phone ) tough enough for me (not meaning just my a$$)
*EDIT* A question I forgot earlier... How's the battery? I see that it's merely 1400mAh, which is smaller than the standard DEFY one (1540mAh) and I guess I'm kinda used to my + version (1700mAh) :/
The specs say that M2 has got a lot longer stand-by and talk times than the DEFY, though. How is that possible?
mine is 1390mAh , what can I say ,.... I'm charging once in 2/3 days ... sometimes 4 i guess ,.. but u have to replace stock froyo for that.
Sure you can run empty in less than 1 day if 5/6 applications are running on wireless + display + keyboard used for hours.
I don't talk to much, twice a day would be average+ 1 or 2 hours of wireless / day . For the rest of the time wireless and background data are off.
Alarm rings & vibrates every morning for at least 30 min ))) once in 5 minutes, or 10 ?? I will never find out I guess , I'm too sleepy )
Scheduled airplane mode from 2:30 a.m. to 8:00 a.m.
Hope it helps
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I'm 64kg, so I guess it would sustain my a$$ a bit better (no offense intended, of course!)
It's sounds like it's (the phone ) tough enough for me (not meaning just my a$$)
*EDIT* A question I forgot earlier... How's the battery? I see that it's merely 1400mAh, which is smaller than the standard DEFY one (1540mAh) and I guess I'm kinda used to my + version (1700mAh) :/
The specs say that M2 has got a lot longer stand-by and talk times than the DEFY, though. How is that possible?
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The battery is not great, specially after a few dozens rom flashing around the clock and different tries, but there is a 2400mah battery the same size as the original one you can find around and it's cheap (it was something like 9/10£ with shipping for me, despite me living outside uk) that i'm testing right now.
Battery duration is quite better, and the battery is detected normally for charge capacity, prediction and such.
On top of that people messed around/tried different governors/voltages and got an undervolt setting that gives quite good result and is stable.
Overall the Tezet's CM10 (and sfc3001's CM9 despite a bit lagging behind now due to him being busy IRL) are really good and stable with a low number of bugs/problems that are *mostly* problems present on DEFY/DEFY+ because overall the MS2 CM roms are port of the Defy ones (with some tweaks like hardware acceleration, and so on coming from other Moto phones like the MS1 or the Atrix from memory).
Answer to your question is - No, don't buy it.
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Answer to your question is - No, don't buy it.
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Why?
Ashareth, thanks for the reply! :good:
Phones without moving parts are more reliable than phones using flex cables.
Debounce is not a problem here, simply because I don't use hw keyboard. Swype is faster than hw keyboard and since I don't open the m2, will be harder to break the lcd flex - that is essential to use the phone.
Hi
IMHO you get great value for a really cheap price. I paid 200€ without contract on amazon.de
basically because it was one of the very few available with HW keyboard. Non rooted I was very disappointed mainly
due to the low speed and bloatware. But performance and experience with CM10 is great!
Sum : Best HW keyboard phone for that price range
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Why?
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Poor battery, bad performance, no good rom alternatives. I got this phone to replace my old HTC Diamond, now I see that old htc was more reliable than this. MM2 is my first and last Motorola product that I paid for.
I still like the MS2 (hey, it's got a hw keyboard!), but I'm not too enthusiastic about CM10 on it.
I mean, I really appreciate tezet's current work (also sfc3001's CM9 before, and tezet's CM7), I love CM10 per se, but I think it's pushing too far the MS2: even with a 1.2GHz OC processor, smartassV2, SIO scheduler, and less than 30 apps installed it's sometimes almost too laggy for me.
When I open the dialer or the contacts app, I want it to launch (almost) immediately, not after seconds.
It also kills the possibility of a full multi-task operation, constantly having only 50-100MB free ram.
Anyway, if you decide to buy it, and you're not too addicted to CM10's bonuses (as I, sadly, am), I'd suggest to try CM7 by tezet, which IMHO can give you the best of this phone's hw-sw performance combo.
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I still like the MS2 (hey, it's got a hw keyboard!), but I'm not too enthusiastic about CM10 on it.
I mean, I really appreciate tezet's current work (also sfc3001's CM9 before, and tezet's CM7), I love CM10 per se, but I think it's pushing too far the MS2: even with a 1.2GHz OC processor, smartassV2, SIO scheduler, and less than 30 apps installed it's sometimes almost too laggy for me.
When I open the dialer or the contacts app, I want it to launch (almost) immediately, not after seconds.
It also kills the possibility of a full multi-task operation, constantly having only 50-100MB free ram.
Anyway, if you decide to buy it, and you're not too addicted to CM10's bonuses (as I, sadly, am), I'd suggest to try CM7 by tezet, which IMHO can give you the best of this phone's hw-sw performance combo.
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I'm +1 this. Totally agree.
CM10 is great (I'm also too much comfortable with CM10's features :/ ), but it IS slow. It is not that slow, as stock Froyo ROM of course (that was really pain in the... ), but I think CM10 is even slower than stock GB
(but hey! I have to say, that's not tezet's fault of course... JB is just too much for M2 HW probably...)
I would recommend CM7 too or stock GB (or ROMs based on it) if you don't rely on CM10 functions... I will probably go back to one of these too, since I really need (and like) speed and smoothness... CM10 is great, but definitely not fast or smooth - and I don't even mention the slowness, in case you are out of free RAM...
Cm7 in my opinion it's the best rom for our miles2. After the last update, the battery is much better than previous version.
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Honestly, as much as the MS2 is good (great) you should look out for another phone currently, because there is better (more recent) choices out there for roughly the same price.
If you buy it new, it's still prohibitive since most vendors still list it around 300€ new.
If it's used, unless you manage to find one under 100€ it's not worth it (most of them are sold close to 180/200€ from what i've seen).
You're better of going after a Galaxy Nexus/Galaxy SII if you don't need the hw keyboard. If you do need it it's another question since there is not much choices out there, and MS2 is still one of the best.
@ Ashareth: Sorry, but when you are talking about "better (more recent) choices out there for roughly the same price." - do you refer to smartphones in general
or with HW keyboard ?
In my opionion the choice of HW keyboard phones is very, very limited sadly. Not that I am trying to defend here the milestone 2, but I am seeking myself for a potential
alternative. My contract ends soon and I could get cheaply a new phone, but with HW keyboard ? Bummer, there is not much out there, especially outside the US
Another point, I would be interested in would be the speed of CM7. I am running CM10 at the moment but couldnt run CM7 due to 2.36 kernel. Is the speed comparable with the MS2Ginger ? Its the only one I tested so far ....
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Hey, guys!
So, I know that internally Milestone2 and DEFY/DEFY+ are the same (chipset, CPU, GPU, camera module) and I'm absolutely okay with that. Latest CM10 builds work incredibly good on the DEFY. So, I know I would be happy with Milestone2 on CM10 experience pretty much the same
But! Other than internals... How good is the Milestone2? How good is the build quality? Are there some common failures that occur? Is the keyboard good? The keyboard sliding mechanism is built to last?
I really love my DEFY+, but I would LOVE to have the actual keyboard. Other than that, i see that M2 has a dedicated camera button, that's a nice touch, too
Please share some experience! And no need for anyone to tell me that it's old/outdated, it's still a good phone and it's definitely good enough for me, so please no recommendations on other phones, just your experiences with the M2! :fingers-crossed:
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why do you want to buy a machine two years ago.Even it s just locked with a out-date system.
Im currently going to buy another Motorola Defy but since its new in the box I can't know what lense does my defy have is there any information on the box It actually shows up if its a red lense or a green lense?
What are your thoughts about a green lense? I currently have a red lense and used the HD recording camera few times from walter's Roms (I didn't even record a usefull video, just for testing) I commonly use a cm7.2 from FuzZ froyo kernel and Im quite happy with it, but since Quarx is developing this new kernel I wonder if Green Lense will fall back or something :/
Maybe you should buy a Defy+.
Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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Hi All, so its been 10 months almost since I purchased by Bravo, and am thinking to upgrading to a Defy, however... in GSM Arena, it is listed that the bravo has a 2gb Rom versus the 1gb for the Defy. Is this true? I was not able to find anything on Motorola.com to confirm this.
Would you recommend switching to a Defy, if so which version (+, xt)?
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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I say keep your bravo. There's a good enough community here behind it with good ROMs to choose from. You can get Miui, CM7, CM9, CM10, and I think bandroidx's custom rom is still here (obsolete, but if you like MotoBlur, go for it).
They DEFY (+, xt) and the BRAVO have the same amount of RAM (~512mb) and internal storage space (2gb). However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena. The DEFY also has a 4th capacitive button, the search button (which isn't really necessary in my opinion).
There might be other interface differences but I've never played with a DEFY so I don't know. I do know that the Bravo is a really good phone and that this Bravo community is amazing. We could have a really slow, BLUR using, battery draining Bravo, but instead we can have a lightning fast one with all the features of the latest smartphones (ex: most phones with android 4.1.1).
That's my opinion. Good luck with your decision!
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Thanks for the input. I absolutley ADORE my bravo... I currently have Quarxs 4.0 Installed and am happy with it. The only think I dislike about it is the camera... kinda wish it had flash and was 5mpx... that was the major reason for changing.
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However, the DEFY has Corning Gorilla Glass, which is super scratch resistant and tough, and prevents dust according to GSMarena.
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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Thought I should mention that according to the Corning web site our Bravo also has gorilla glass! Look!
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I did not know that. Thanks! I agree on the better camera with flash though. If I took more pictures I would pick defy over bravo.
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
What do you think about Pimp My Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908269
I've been using it without any issues and it has various init.d scripts and tons of other tweaks along with it. It's worked with each CM rom I've used, so I'm wondering if that will save you some work, rather than have you write all the scripts yourself.
That's my two cents. Good luck and thanks! You never fail to impress us!
Thanks!
skeevy420 said:
I'd just stick with the Bravo unless you find a cheap Defy. There aren't that many differences between the Defy and the Bravo -- Defy is waterproof\dustproof, has a better camera with flash, search button, official moto GB kernel, and all other differences are in the CG levels and partition signatures, etc. Now that we have custom kernels the differences will soon become just the search button and camera. I'll even go so far as to say that our roms will be interchangeable without porting once Quarx gets the custom kernel fine tuned with some Bravo support. As it is, the only reason we have to "port" the Defy roms is to add in our camera driver -- every other code for the most part is shared between the two phones, or actually, shared by the Moto Omap 3630 devices since they use the Defy team's code as well.
Ya gotta love our devs working their butts off to get us working CM7\9\10\11?? roms on the most locked down devices on the market and doing a better job at it than devs on fully unlocked phones. They're awesome. :good:
On another note, almost done with a new 7 port. I've added a lot of tweaks and mods and I'm adding the final touches to it today. I'm having a bit of hell trying to get the ICS framework animations to work on GB, once that's done, I should be done. I really don't care for the flip animations that the CM.com Defy 10\28 rom has and I plan to use the 7 port until PA is back in business. I'm going for a CM7 rom that looks like CM9\10, inverted gapps (almost all of them), tons of init scripts, tweaked for speed & battery life, and use the latest CM10 bootmenu so this 7 can be used a stable base to test 10 roms with. I'm gonna release the rom as a nandroid backup since I'm doing a few tweaks that require either sqlite3 database init scripts (a pita) or instructions on what settings to change to what to have the full experience I'm trying to provide.
I'll be including Holo Launcher (I own the Pro version ) so if you don't like it then install something else, though I recommend Holo Pro since its a very good, fast, and stable launcher on both GB and ICS\JB roms. Holo works better than Trebuchet on PA. Also including MiFileExplorer instead of File Manager (it sucks), Sonny's ICS theme with the additional framework\metamorph addons (no more black on black notification text), SuperSu instead of Superuser (with the updated su binary), gapps (most are inverted) preinstalled, ICS framework animations, and more.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what they want in a CM7 rom??? You'll have about 6 hours from the time of this post to let me know :silly:.
/I could start up a new cm7 thread for most of this post, but I'll just hijack one of my older cm7 threads when I release the rom, until then I'll just post crap in random places.
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Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
marcelarr said:
Thanks for your sharing your point of veiw... I am looking for a cheap Defy... but think I will keep my Bravo also!!
Thanks for all your hard work on CM7!
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Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
skeevy420 said:
Well, now that I have a Defy....Defy is better. Get it, you won't be disappointed. My comparison -- Defy feels more durable while holding it, Torch is awesome, the waterproof\dustproof covers (usb, headphone, battery cover) are annoying but worth it. My only issue is really a non issue -- I have to add in the correct battd (I recieved a greenlens Defy, using my Bravo's battery which is the same as 525 Defy and JB 2nd-boot uses 526 Defy+ battd). I'll end up getting a 526 battery, although our BF5X batteries can be picked up for $4 (~$6 after shipping).
Bravo is well worth keeping -- useful for testing roms, backup phone, etc. I'd never get rid of my Bravo, its too good of a phone.
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Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
josuearisty said:
Good to know you own a Defy now, I think you will improve more your knowledges about Android, as we all know Defy has a more activity which is good to learn more following the steps of Quarx.
Hope you still work with us and our lovely bravo.
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I plan on it , but CM10 on the Bravo is gonna take a back seat for the moment. I've put 2+ weeks into getting it to function properly and haven't made any headway on it....I gotta get to updating PA since its starting to fall way behind. As is, the only way I can improve my Android knowledge is to get a uart board (for kernel debugging) and some books on C and Java. Merging code is one thing, writing it is a whole different story.
//Plus I only have one battery for two phones....Need to get another battery for my Bravo. Also, here's a pic of my Bravo so you all know what I've been working with for the past 6 months.