Can you people check and see where your phone is made, i found a htc hd2 i want to buy but it says it is made in china. Will this affect the ablity to install android and wp7 on it? i ask this as it is normally made in taiwan
I just check 3 of my HD2's all are made in Taiwan, i guess it won't matter if it's made in china if all the specs are the same. give it a shot & let us know.
actually most HD2 are made in taiwan
so is no need to check. as i know there's no fabric of HD2 in china to see
there have been several instances of people buying cheap 'bargain' fakes from china. i'd be very wary, since you dont know if the hardware is identical, and theres a good chance flashing wont work, especially the hspl stuff, and then drivers in any particular rom may not be correct for the hardware even if it did flash.
carlos118 said:
Can you people check and see where your phone is made, i found a htc hd2 i want to buy but it says it is made in china. Will this affect the ablity to install android and wp7 on it? i ask this as it is normally made in taiwan
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have you seen the sticker on the inside of the phone?
BTW Taiwan is a republic of China
Both my t-mobile hd2's were made in China. Both of them I bought within USA and one of them came with the original box and it also says made in China on them so no, it does not affect the quality of the phone and it being "made in China" does not mean it is a fake.
Both of them work fine and were my dev phones..
Both of mine say China as well and one of them is a replacement phone shipped direct from HTC repair.
Also running Android without any problem.
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mengfei said:
have you seen the sticker on the inside of the phone?
BTW Taiwan is a republic of China
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Not strictly correct, Taiwan IS the republic of China (ROC) not a republic of China or I should say was the ROC since they were brutally cut down and fled to Taiwan after WW2, however, most countries quite happily treat Taiwan as its own independent state, and if you look at the political and social situation on the island you can clearly see that they are doing very well for them selves, and are ranked very highly in terms of freedom of speech, health and education.
China is the Peoples republic of China (PRC) which is widely recognised as the legal ruling body of mainland china. The hypocrisy is that whilst we all think Taiwan is independent we cant say so formally otherwise the PRC has vowed to take the island by force and cut off all diplomatic relations with that country… its all very confusing!
back on topic... there was a case not long ago where someone had a HD2 clone made in china, but the devices them selves can be made anywhere now, so its not really a problem unless you have political reasons NOT to buy from china
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Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
Coktail said:
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
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USD240 is absolutely fake.
here brand new HD in China is around 527USD. just for reference.
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
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JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
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HAHA , DOPOD announced HD early this year. you know how much they are selling in the beginning? RMB8288, As exactly the same with its model number T8288, DOPOD is crazy. DOPOD HD doesn't include WIFI/3G
Can get it with 3G and Wifi in China
It is possible to get the Touch HD in here in China with 3G and Wifi....If you buy a Dopod branded phone, it won't have either, but if you go to a mobile store and ask for "shui huo" you can get them. The "shui huo" versions of the phones are usually brought in from Europe then brought across the border (tax free). Don't let the sales staff trick you into paying more for them. These phones are cheaper than the Dopod branded ones and they are exactly the same phone (with more features enabled). As mentioned above, you also have to be aware of fakes, but if you take your time and check out multiple vendors, you should be ok....Always ask to try the phone before you buy it (ALWAYS).
Additionally, it will be extremely difficult to find one with a WWE rom. I usually come on here and flash a WWE rom as soon as I get my phone...Never had a problem...
China has some great deals and some great rip-offs...Just exercise some caution and you should be fine. Test the phone and make sure the Wifi and 3G options work and you should be fine.
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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That's not necessarily true...
HTC is a Taiwanese company and they export their products to places all over the world. One of them is Hong Kong, and as we all know, there are no taxes, customs, tariffs, or whatever on imported products there. Thus, electronics are generally cheaper in Hong Kong than they are elsewhere. Also, due to the proximity of Hong Kong and Taiwan, shipping is also cheaper than to the Americas for example, thus further reducing the end-user cost (however this may just be a little bit). Therefore, many of the "shui huo" HTC products brought into China from places like Hong Kong actually end up being cheaper (even more if you haggle and perhaps they'll throw in some goodies too!) than they are elsewhere.
Hope that sheds some light upon this issue.
So now now... don't go around making imperatives like "everything" all the time... hehe
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
mrayearth said:
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
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You could try Mong Kok/Wang Jiao Computer Centre; you can get some great deals if you haggle...
Check it out. It's near the Ladie's/Women's Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_Kok
Hi. I'm from Moscow, Russia and I've got a problem with my future (i hope) HTC Topaz.
After analyzing our(Russian) market I've came to a conclusion that there are at least 2 types of this device:
1. From Taiwan, certified, with guarantee, with Russian windows mobile - i.e. official one - 497.2$
2. From China, NOT certified, there are NO guarantee, English windows, the only document which comes with this device is a cash-memo and user manual - that's all (as salesman told me). price - 396$
100$ difference is a big money in my case. English Windows is not a problem, 'cause there are lots of info on howto change firmware. as for the guarantee - all the stuff i bought earlier (notebooks, cameras) are working just fine, I've never been at the service center before - so i hope i won't need one in future.
The question is: how to determine that the device I'm going to buy (before actually buying it; I'll have nearly 10-20 min) is a real one and not a fake like e.g. "HTS tauch brilliant2" or "Pear iFone 5g", that inside it's absolutely identical to the certified one, that the hardware is the same and I'll be able to change firmware. One of the problems is i won't be able to insert Sim and make a call, test WiFi and etc, 'cause the phone is probably locked. Is there any way, any program that allows to display a list of hardware inside this PDA on its screen or on the screen of notebook. Or maybe there is a list of serial numbers somewhere and i can compare them to the one i'll see under the battery? Maybe someone has bought it for extremely low price and really satisfied with it?
Any ideas and opinions are appreciated!
Thnx!
Best regards, Rudbur.
$396 is fake diamond 2 - it is easy to figure out - just turn it on and you'll see for yourself. real greyimport diamond 2 costs now $500, but it will has no manufacturer warranty anyway, don't get yourself tricked... if you want warranty - buy legally imported PCT device.
Oh, fellow countryman! Thanks for the answer!
You probably know (price.ru) what stores i mean. So, let's assume this: I'm ordering two different HTCs: one for 400$ and one for 500$. I turn them on (simultaneously), and what should i expect when testing the fake one?
If there's no difference at all - same buttons, same size, same menu and etc (except language: russian and english), should i buy cheapest?
oh, and i heard or read somewhere that china shops offer real topaz for 333$. Or am i wrong?
The Chinese "copies" aren't actually the same at all.
The names are similar/identical, and they try to mimmick the physical appearance of a genuine device, but the software and internals are all different. Usually there a obvious differences like a lower resolution camera, room for dual SIM cards etc.
I've never seen one myself, but I would imagine once you switch it on you'll get default Windows Mobile with no HTC add-ons. I doubt they have gone to the trouble of faking an entire HTC ROM as well - but I might be wrong.
Hi,
I can testify here, as I have been living in China for a while, and buying phones from the grey market for a while too.
a few things to know:
Real fake chinese stuff will not even have HTC written on it. MTC or something like that. The plastic looks cheap, and it wouldn't even have winmo on it. I saw a "Nolia N95" the other day with the Sony Ericsson interface on it!
Then, in china, you got an official one for real cheap, but the brand is Dopodo, and they don't have wifi built-in. It's the real stuff, but for chinese market only.
At last, the grey market stuff, like mine which I paid the equivalent of 400USD has, I believe "fallen from the truck" in HK... So it got the HK Rom in it, ot Taiwanese, not so certain, as it was in CHS, and they use CHT in those regions.
So, briefly, chinese fake will be very, very easy to spot Hope that helps!
Thanks to you all, guys. I hope the shop I'm going to buy from will allow me to test these devices and save few bucks. I emailed them earlier, asking about guarantee, prices and so on, but they haven't answered yet.
kipue, your opinion is especially important, because you lived there, you know what's what. So I'll draw attention to the labels on it, camera, functioning of wifi, windows mobile menus and all.
After actually buying it I'll post a reply here.
Best regards, Rudbur.
hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html
T8585 is the HD2 that I have.
The other could be the test phone, or a other branded phone (T-mobile etc.)
Linuxmaniac said:
hello!
i am ready to order my hd2 (Greece is where i am located.)
So, after searching some greek eshops,i seem to find 2 different versions of the hd2 and i am confused.
There seems to exist a T8383 model and a T8585 one.What's this?Anyone knows?
http://www.skroutz.gr/s/94970/HTC-HD2.html
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T8585 - HTC HD2 (not "Touch" any more, also known as Leo).
T8383 - WTF???
In theory it could be cut down version. But apart from Czech republic and Greece no one seems to have that sort of number. Could it be something like HTC made in Greece?
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I am concerned.
I already own a touch diamond greek.The company that alters the software (translation etc) is ace hellas i know.This is not the case in this T8383 model.I was about to buy it but then i thought i would post here the question.It is 50 euros cheaper than the eshops selling the T8585 and also the T8585 is not expected here in nothing less than about 20days.So could this be a test model or something like you mentioned before?
Perhaps when it was know as Touch Pro Three?
Sould i avoid it you think and wait for the T8585 model?
how much does the hd2 costs in Greece? In cyprus is estimated 685 euros!! i think i will be buying mine from Germany in December...
btw both my Polaris and HD where also customized by ACE Hellas and they also seemed to be more expensive than in any of the other shops, I just fell for the salesman trick that only the ones customised by ACE Hellas are under HTC's warranty, which seems to be bull****!
sorry i missed your link on the first post... they are even more expensive in Greece!!! why dont you buy from abroad?
what about expansys??? http://www.expansys.com.gr/d.aspx?i=188868
its an english version of it
About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait
Linuxmaniac said:
About 700 euros here and big stores like www.plaisio.gr say it will be available late november to december,and the T8383 model costs 650 and is already available. i will probably wait
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i don't believe there would be 2 versions of the same phone, unless branded like vodafone or something.... or it could be that the seller did not read his notes very well... i mean 3 can easily be misunderstood to 5!
Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen
No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything
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Maybe the T8383 model is the one with dots on the screen
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Nope, I've got a T8585, and it's got dots (Well, actually they're lines in a diagonal grid pattern with dots at the places where the lines cross).
But yeah, maybe the T8383 is one of the prototype (Those that said Pro.Three) or pre-retail (The ones without the pouch, MicroSD card, etc.) models, or just a random name for a model that doesn't differ at all.
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No it's not a branded version,that's what i tried to explain before.I have to buy from a greek eshop because vodafone gr gives me some money i don't know the word in english,money discount for buying a new phone and shops like expansys.com or other do not cooperate on this with vodafone gr the said
i am beginning to think it's a first version of the phone probably,though it could be wrong spelled,a number "5" turned to "3".
Thanks anyway,i will wait and pay 50 euros more,i will give so much money,i have to be sure not to buy a beta phone version or anything
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legally they shouldnt sell you a beta phone and get away with it, so dont worry
*I believe* the difference is only down to the radio frequencies that 3G HSDPA data runs on.
One of them probably does 900/2100, the other maybe 850/2100.
i called the company today (one of the companies that sells the T8383 model).
They said that tha package was the full one,including an sdcard etc.
When i told them about the T8585 being the official one mentioned in the site,they replied that perhaps there is a type error.Could someone made this error and then 2 or 3 sites just copied it wrong?
The description in all these sites selling the T8383 is the same (copy-paste)
So should i just buy it?
I can hardly wait another one for the T8585 sites.
I wll also try to contact htc
how to find that number on the phone?
Linuxmaniac, unless you got a serial number from one of the T8383 models, don't bother contact HTC.
I already have, and they need a serial number in order to verify if the device is real or fake. they didn't answer the most important question - if there's a T8383, or not.
I contacted htc.They replied and said that there is only a T8585 model and i should only buy from original retail suppliers of htc in greece.
The site is not included in this list for Greece.
Also,the site after i called them changed now the model name to T8585 and put up the price 20 euros.
Still its 30 euros less than other shops in Greece and most important for me it is available.
So is this 30 euros just some sort of tariff for the buying from the "original" supplier?
Maybe this was all just a type error?
Some shops could lose clients easily afterall.
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?
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how to find that number on the phone?
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Settings----> About phone------> Phone Identity
Linuxmaniac said:
I think will order mine from this shop and then send the serial number to htc.
Do you agree?
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Why not asking the shop to provide you a serial from one of their devices, before you're actually buying it?...
Guys , where does your Desire HD made in ?
as for me mine is made in china , does it means mine is Imitation ?
Mine one made in Taiwan.
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Yeah, on my box it says made in taiwan. It's likely that some components/accessories are made in china though, where did you see that?
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Yeah, on my box it says made in taiwan. It's likely that some components/accessories are made in china though, where did you see that?
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HTC is orriginary from Taiwan, mine is from Taiwan. One my friend got same phone but is from China, I can use my phone 2 days with normal use with one charge, he just one day. I preffer HTC from Taiwan, I hear from Taiwan is better. May be is not true, I`m not 100% sure
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as for me mine is made in china , does it means mine is Imitation ?
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What does that suppose to mean?! Anything made in China should be a fake? I admit there are counterfeit products in China but that isn't EVERYTHING from China. Genuine export goods made by genuine factories in China are actually better quality then the same product sold within China. I hope you are aware that more than 60% of all the stuff in all the shops in the whole world are manufactured in China, and they are GENUINE stuff from designer cloths to smartphones - why? Because it high quality with low cost. What do you think made all these hi tech toys and gadgets so affordable to almost everyone in the world? It's because they cost very little to make in China, and it is the factory workers are taking hit by being paid very little. You should thank them!
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I preffer HTC from Taiwan, I hear from Taiwan is better. May be is not true, I`m not 100% sure
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As far as I know, I'm not sure about the ones exported from Taiwan, but the DHD's sold within Taiwan are made with a different screen which is not as good as the ones made in China for the export orders in Europe (according to Mobile01).
078gregory said:
HTC is orriginary from Taiwan, mine is from Taiwan. One my friend got same phone but is from China, I can use my phone 2 days with normal use with one charge, he just one day. I preffer HTC from Taiwan, I hear from Taiwan is better. May be is not true, I`m not 100% sure
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I hear that the early models made in Germany also make toast. It may not be true, I'm not 100% sure.
if any of you are from Hong Kong, I need info:
I have gathered about 100+ HTC phones, all broken. Im pretty experienced in repairing that stuff, and have all the service manuals, but I need parts.
My brother is currently in Hong Kong, and He could smuggle them to my country, cause our airport doesnt have security checks on exit (if russians and chinese let you bring a nuke, serbians are going to allow it)
I believe that someone is going to ask me this, so im going to answer it before even asked - I dont want to order it online, cause our customs are retarded (custom prices higher than actual item prices)
so I need 20+ parts for:
HTC Blackstone
HTC HD2
HTC Wildfire
now, the problem: I myself have browsed chinese and HK electronics markets, and it is one hell of a trouble. for example: In Shenzhen, everyone is talking about Hua Qiang Bei being the greatest electronics market, but the truth is that BEST deals and prices, and items themselves are located in the buildings NEXT to the actual Hua Qiang Bei. and it took me 15 days to figure it all out, that is one hell of a place. most of the good chinese Android Tablets could not be found in Hua Qiang Bei, but in the buildings near by.
Is there anyone that could know fort certain, where to buy HTC spare parts in HK ?
Maybe Taiwan, isn't that where they are all from? (The HTC phones )
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Dude, my brother is in HK, and all the spare parts are manufactured in shenzhen/HK for ALL phones, and electronics. I just want to know if there is anyone that knows for a shop that sells spares
isn't smuggling illegal?
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