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[Q] Any way to Get root Back?

I just rooted my phone the other day and of course the night I go out and leave the phone at home the g/f has to use my phone. Well it said OTA and she thought it was something I didn't finish and, yup u guessed it she gave me the update. I lost root as you know and now is there any way for me to get root back at this point?. I have a HTC Espresso 3g slide with T-Mobile and any help would be appreciated a lot. I was all set to do my ROM today and now this. Go Figure...

Not At this time no.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

i forgot where i read this, but i read in theory that the Droid X method to root should work on any previous android phones, jus needs to be changed for the phone..
This method i did use for my N1 and it worked great! some one was able to make it work for the n1 hopefully some can do the same for the Slide

I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
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Armyjon88 said:
I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
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I really need this too, since i updated.

Ace42 said:
I really need this too, since i updated.
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Ace I have a quick question if I may. Since I didn't RoM my phone before it was updated I was curious if you just lost root or did it put you back to stock 2.1 - update1? I am new to this and any place I can learn a few things I try to. We all had to start someplace

Suntar said:
Ace I have a quick question if I may. Since I didn't RoM my phone before it was updated I was curious if you just lost root or did it put you back to stock 2.1 - update1? I am new to this and any place I can learn a few things I try to. We all had to start someplace
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It was already on stock firmware, i manually updated my phone since i was having trouble rooting it. It wouldnt say offline in rec mode, but i tried it after the update with a new sd card and it says offline now...But it doesnt matter since root is blocked anyway..

Ace42 said:
It was already on stock firmware, i manually updated my phone since i was having trouble rooting it. It wouldnt say offline in rec mode, but i tried it after the update with a new sd card and it says offline now...But it doesnt matter since root is blocked anyway..
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Well I have been looking everywhere looking for a fix for this and it seems right now that you and I are the only ones that this has happened too. I'm sure there are others. Just for a lack of something to do I have been trying all sorts of things but nothing has worked so far. If I find a fix I will post it here to help out of course. Sooner or later someone will come up with one since all the phones being sold now or people that haven't rooted yet will need new root.zip files I would think.

Armyjon88 said:
I looked into this method and yes it should work I have the files and ill upload them and post them in a new thread and see if we can get it to work.
I works off of some exploit in the working android system to trick the device into trusting the su and superuser.apk and busybox as android systems files and installing them, has to do with bluetooth and wifi exploit it least that's what I understood
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YUP this method would be great!, but to let you know this method does not fully install BusyBOX! learned this yesterday lol
when your in terminal or adb shell and do "cp" cmd it will give you not found.. but i found this script to fully install it after root
http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/07/07/android-hack-how-to-install-busybox-on-your-android/
if you wanted to do a "cp cmd" you would have to do "busybox cp"

I just posted a hot to in dev section that will walk you thru downgrading and easy root vs loop method.

Just received notification to update my XOOM what if I am rooted...

If I go through the install what would happen? Would it even allow me? I thought that if you were rooted you would not receive the notification. I just don't want to take that chance to try it and brick my XOOM. I also do not want to relock it and that wipes it to return to stock.

well if I would guess, since I haven't received an update notification yet, it will probably update just fine, but could remove root. Since it is an unlocked device, if it is unrooted by the update, it shouldn't break the ability to root.
tl:dr it's probably safe

So did you update?

RE:
Are you on a VZW Data Plan? or just using it as WiFi ?

jlcutler said:
Are you on a VZW Data Plan? or just using it as WiFi ?
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Wifi only WILL get the update as well.

Just installed the update and did not even have to relock my XOOM

So your xoom was unlocked and you still got he update?

Yep. And I am still rooted. Love it that I did not have to return to stock

760hacker said:
So your xoom was unlocked and you still got he update?
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... I'm pretty sure he JUST said exactly that lol.

Sweet. I am sure Moto said to return to stock as a safety measure because they didn't want people coming back with troubles. From their stock build is just the "Official" way to make sure it works and cover their asses.

Excellent! Hope it hits my town soon
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bishop72 said:
Yep. And I am still rooted. Love it that I did not have to return to stock
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What did you test to see that you're still rooted? Just running Superuser makes it appear I'm still rooted yet I get 'permission denied' when running su in terminal and any program that relies on root can't get root access.
Was a quick fix though, just had to run the line 'adb shell chmod 4755 /system/bin/su'

Ok, just to let you guys know that I had lost root when I did the update. All I had to do was re-root my XOOM and everything is good to go now I have root access to SetCPU and RootExplorer

Just received ota also and I'm rooted. Same thing happened with me, still unlocked but lost root. Hopefully all releases go this way
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Did anyone grab the update.zip file from /cache before running it?
The file needs to be posted for analysis, thanks.

A guy grabbed it and posted a link to it in the General forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12024182&postcount=89

cellzealot said:
Did anyone grab the update.zip file from /cache before running it?
The file needs to be posted for analysis, thanks.
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Can you tell us how to pull it? I know its too late for me since i already updated but this could help you
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I'm rooted and just got the notification and performed the update.
It ended up freezing with the green exclamation point android icon.
Guess ill unroot and try again...

codeman05 said:
I'm rooted and just got the notification and performed the update.
It ended up freezing with the green exclamation point android icon.
Guess ill unroot and try again...
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I got the same green android exclamation icon. Unlocked and Rooted. It did reboot after a few minutes but nothing happened.

It notified me 10 minutes ago and I just installed the update on my rooted and unlocked xoom. All it did for me was unroot it with the update, but the update went through just fine.
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Should I update my ATRIX ?

Should I risk to update my unblocked, rooted and sideload enabled ATRIX or not (on the next possible update) ?
As the ATRIX is my first smartphone, I am still not so experienced on the smartphone / Android level. So I would would like to hear your opinions and experiences and ideas.
Would like to give some explanations first. I spent quite some time reading the xda threads and implementing these ideas. Result: my ATRIX is in a very "nice" condition now: Unblocked, rooted and sideloading enabled. I cleaned some annoying apps, did some fine-tuning (all thanks to the xda forum) and I am really happy with this nice little masterpiece of technology.
There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
According to the threads here in the forum, already the build number will get me back to unrooted. Can imagine what a Android version could do.
- So is it really worth ? All the hussle again after the update.
- How can I prevent (just in case) an update ?

Updating to 4.1.83 will also put you on 2.2.2.
You will lose root.
If you have uninstalled any Moto apps you will have to sbf 4.1.26 or 4.1.57 first. If you have frozen any Moto apps, you can just thaw them.
Personally I would back everything up, screenshot your home screens so you can set them up the same in worst case scenario of a wipe,, then go for it.
What all have you done to your phone up to now? i.e. gingerbreak, gladenable, theme......
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CaelanT said:
Updating to 4.1.83 will also put you on 2.2.2.
You will lose root.
If you have uninstalled any Moto apps you will have to sbf 4.1.26 or 4.1.57 first. If you have frozen any Moto apps, you can just thaw them.
Personally I would back everything up, screenshot your home screens so you can set them up the same in worst case scenario of a wipe,, then go for it.
What all have you done to your phone up to now? i.e. gingerbreak, gladenable, theme......
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Please read first what I wrote. My Atrix is on 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2
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1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
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What update are you asking about if you have 4.1.8.3? Are
you asking about the Gingerbread update? I won't update it
until the functionalities that I currently have are available on
that build.

OSNPA said:
What update are you asking about if you have 4.1.8.3? Are
you asking about the Gingerbread update? I won't update it
until the functionalities that I currently have are available on
that build.
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Is that update even available to download??

Nope. 10char

1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
Please read first what I wrote. My Atrix is on 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2
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There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
If you already have it, why are you asking if you should update to it???

For safety, unroot your phone first
Swyped from MB860

+1 It sounds like you are already up-to-date. The version you posted is the same one your running.

Will explain my idea better
Sorry. As English is not my native language, I noticed that I explained wrong. Let me try better:
Yes. I am up to date. If I am updated, I do not know, but my ATRIX is ;-). 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2. But ...
... as we read a lot about an upcoming Android Gingerbread for our Atrix, I am sunk in thoughts what should I do (when it happened !).
Actually everything is perfect on my Atrix, after a potential update probably not anymore. So will it be worth to update ? And to get everything back to "normal" (rooted, sideload, ...), the risk to brick the phone ...
Of course nobody really knows now, but how was it in the past with other Motorola smartphones ? For example the update from 2.1 to 2.2 ? What was your experience ?
Anyway. There is still my question, how can I disable an automatic update ? Would be happy, if somebody knows.

Solution for disable update 2.2.2
Just found a solution (already prooved if working ?) by WiredPirate in the xda forum
Titanium Backup
<backup/restore< "click to edit filters"< filter by name: "updater"< apply< updater2.2.2< freeze!

DO NOT FREEZE UPDATER
Sorry for caps - I've done it before & my battery life was shocking - Although i did freeze it after i started to get notifications to update

So what to do ?
- Update (when an update will be availiable) ? and all the work to get it back to rooted etc
- No update ? and to keep the Atrix like it is (as it is running fine)
Tell me.

1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
So what to do ?
- Update (when an update will be availiable) ? and all the work to get it back to rooted etc
- No update ? and to keep the Atrix like it is (as it is running fine)
Tell me.
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I plan on waiting for the update to be out for awhile and read what others are saying about it.
Once they know how to get root, I'll update.
Keep in mind Titanium Backup can backup/restore just about everything after a wipe so it wouldn't be too much work..

I think this next update will be very much worth the hassle of rooting it again (you won't have to worry about sideloading - AT&T is going to enable it). I've read somewhere that for the gingerbread version, motorola's priority was for performance and this next version of motoblur isn't as bad as froyo's. Not only that, but gingerbread can make the 2 cores on the atrix work on every app, not only dual-core-optimized ones, and of course bug fixes, optimizations, etc. "Everything" should improve overall.
I'm in the same boat as you are (sim-unblocked, rooted, sideloaded) and when it goes live, i will wait a couple days before updating to see what people say about it. The only case i won't update it is if it removes sim-unblocking, which i doubt it will. Enabling root will be done eventually, these devs are awesome.

1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
Sorry. As English is not my native language, I noticed that I explained wrong. Let me try better:
Yes. I am up to date. If I am updated, I do not know, but my ATRIX is ;-). 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2. But ...
... as we read a lot about an upcoming Android Gingerbread for our Atrix, I am sunk in thoughts what should I do (when it happened !).
Actually everything is perfect on my Atrix, after a potential update probably not anymore. So will it be worth to update ? And to get everything back to "normal" (rooted, sideload, ...), the risk to brick the phone ...
Of course nobody really knows now, but how was it in the past with other Motorola smartphones ? For example the update from 2.1 to 2.2 ? What was your experience ?
Anyway. There is still my question, how can I disable an automatic update ? Would be happy, if somebody knows.
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When Gingerbread for the Atrix comes out, you'll lose your root if you update. However, Gingerbread will enable sideloading, which is a huge reason for many AT&T users to root anyway. You will have to go back to stock 2.2.2 in order to receive the OTA update to Gingerbread. It's your decision as to update or not, but I think that the benefits of Gingerbread outweigh the downsides of losing root, etc.

I would say wait for the update, let others who knows what they are doing do the update and root etc. then read the thread and update if/when needed. At least that's my approach. I like Gingerblur 4 on my Atrix.

Best Rooting Method

So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?

Ive not rooted or unlocked the boot loader yet myself as this is my first android device im taking it slowly but according to threads in the development section you can root and upgrade as long as you do nothing to the device before upgrading, root the phone then upgrade to 2.3.3
This means flashing backwards first obviously.
As far as upgrading in the future you will be better off flashing a custom rom if development goes well. Custom roms will take this device further than official updates will.
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narflynn619 said:
So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090. Follow the steps and you shall have root on 2.3.3 . I have also opted to "freeze" the bloat this time instead of just uninstalling it, in hopes that when 2.3.4 arrives i can do the ota update again and still keep root.
Also @ -josh- rooting will not damage your phone so its safe to root. I am also a first time android user myself but following the steps in the thread above worked fine no problems. And even if it didnt you can use SEUS to fix a phone with a locked bootloader

I rooted my phone when i was using 2.3.2 and found a good improvement.
Then i updated to an unrooted 2.3.3.
Ive left it unrooted for now. 2.3.3 performance is better than a rooted 2.3.2 i find.
It would be nice to root and remove the bloatwarw and overclock to 1.5 ghz, which can now be done. But for now i am happy.
Aside from a few Gameloft games not working, 2.3.3 is outstanding.
Not going to root until something major happens. Only reason i can see to root is to clock to 1.5 ghz to get n64oid working better.
Other than that, no point imo.

i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!

You can are not supposed to flash to 2.3.3.. You are supposed to flash your phone to 2.3.2 uk generic version. After root your phone and through your phone you go to settings /about/update software and upgrade it there without hooking it to the computer. Make sure that your bootloader is LOCKED, otherwise you brick your phone.
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All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..

Deoxlar said:
All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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I uninstalled all my non-working gameloft games.
Anyway i can get them back without purchasing them again?
narflynn619 said:
i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
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Use this to get to 2.3.3 unrooted. Everything will be put back to stock.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ds/subject/updateservice/1.915711?cc=gb&lc=en

Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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narflynn619 said:
yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
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You are clearly doing something wrong, the only phone that can't be rooted is the version version of the play.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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Thanks for this info.
Unfortunately it didnt work for me. I only have one game in the list which was Asphalt 6.
Ive bought about half of them so there should be plenty more in the list but they are not there.
Ive emailed customer service. Not really that bothered if i get them back or not but i wanted to play Sacred Odessy again. It stopped working when i updated to 2.3.3.
Nevermind.

Don't email them. Call them. Email takes more then a week for each reply. Calling us 10 minutes wait
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sheise. i've been on 2.3.3 unrooted for weeks now and i'm sick of the bloatware... flashing a 2.3.2 UK generic ROM via FlashTool gives back an error that's why i stuck to 2.3.3 unrooted..
EDIT:
oh well, the root-the-2.3.2-then-update-to-2.3.3-via-OTA method suddenly worked today.. sheise!

Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?

crimsonnight said:
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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so everyone still uses FlashTool? it gives me back an error so i used WotanClient. Worked like a charm! I'm now on 2.3.3 UK Generic ROOTED! and works like anything else here in the philippines!

Deoxlar said:
It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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Thanks, so if I want there's an option to keep all my data/settings? Basically I could flash a rooted version of 2.3.3 onto my xperia play running 2.3.3? Cheers

the implications of ROOT

hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!

Caniv said:
hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!
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If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev

ctowne said:
If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev
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alright cool i don't mind paying 5USD...
but what about the most important things?
does rooting 100% erase evetyhing?
Do i keep getting updates to my phone? or when a new version comes out i have to re-root or something?

It will erase EVERYTHING and you would have to go back to stock to get the OTA or wait for a build to be flashable
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If the ROM got OTA (over the air) you can update i guess, not really populair with OTA, but you can download 4.2.2 stock ROM or custom ROM when it comes out.
Sent From My Rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 JB 4.1.2 (GT-I9100)

Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

El Daddy said:
Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!

Caniv said:
might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!
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If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
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El Daddy said:
If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
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ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)

Caniv said:
ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)
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Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.

efrant said:
Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.
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i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion

Caniv said:
i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion
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Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.

efrant said:
Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.
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I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..

Caniv said:
I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..
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The easiest way is to wait for the OTA notification to appear on your device. Then just accept it, and then root again.
I've written up something for the Galaxy Nexus (sticky in the GNex General section), but nothing yet for the N4. The basic premise (and most of the commands) are the same. You can browse through it for some background info.