Should I risk to update my unblocked, rooted and sideload enabled ATRIX or not (on the next possible update) ?
As the ATRIX is my first smartphone, I am still not so experienced on the smartphone / Android level. So I would would like to hear your opinions and experiences and ideas.
Would like to give some explanations first. I spent quite some time reading the xda threads and implementing these ideas. Result: my ATRIX is in a very "nice" condition now: Unblocked, rooted and sideloading enabled. I cleaned some annoying apps, did some fine-tuning (all thanks to the xda forum) and I am really happy with this nice little masterpiece of technology.
There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
According to the threads here in the forum, already the build number will get me back to unrooted. Can imagine what a Android version could do.
- So is it really worth ? All the hussle again after the update.
- How can I prevent (just in case) an update ?
Updating to 4.1.83 will also put you on 2.2.2.
You will lose root.
If you have uninstalled any Moto apps you will have to sbf 4.1.26 or 4.1.57 first. If you have frozen any Moto apps, you can just thaw them.
Personally I would back everything up, screenshot your home screens so you can set them up the same in worst case scenario of a wipe,, then go for it.
What all have you done to your phone up to now? i.e. gingerbreak, gladenable, theme......
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CaelanT said:
Updating to 4.1.83 will also put you on 2.2.2.
You will lose root.
If you have uninstalled any Moto apps you will have to sbf 4.1.26 or 4.1.57 first. If you have frozen any Moto apps, you can just thaw them.
Personally I would back everything up, screenshot your home screens so you can set them up the same in worst case scenario of a wipe,, then go for it.
What all have you done to your phone up to now? i.e. gingerbreak, gladenable, theme......
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Please read first what I wrote. My Atrix is on 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2
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1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
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What update are you asking about if you have 4.1.8.3? Are
you asking about the Gingerbread update? I won't update it
until the functionalities that I currently have are available on
that build.
OSNPA said:
What update are you asking about if you have 4.1.8.3? Are
you asking about the Gingerbread update? I won't update it
until the functionalities that I currently have are available on
that build.
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Is that update even available to download??
Nope. 10char
1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
Please read first what I wrote. My Atrix is on 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2
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There are two update possibilities I am talking about:
- Build number (actually on my phone OLYFR_U4.1.8.3)
- Android version (actually 2.2.2)
If you already have it, why are you asking if you should update to it???
For safety, unroot your phone first
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+1 It sounds like you are already up-to-date. The version you posted is the same one your running.
Will explain my idea better
Sorry. As English is not my native language, I noticed that I explained wrong. Let me try better:
Yes. I am up to date. If I am updated, I do not know, but my ATRIX is ;-). 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2. But ...
... as we read a lot about an upcoming Android Gingerbread for our Atrix, I am sunk in thoughts what should I do (when it happened !).
Actually everything is perfect on my Atrix, after a potential update probably not anymore. So will it be worth to update ? And to get everything back to "normal" (rooted, sideload, ...), the risk to brick the phone ...
Of course nobody really knows now, but how was it in the past with other Motorola smartphones ? For example the update from 2.1 to 2.2 ? What was your experience ?
Anyway. There is still my question, how can I disable an automatic update ? Would be happy, if somebody knows.
Solution for disable update 2.2.2
Just found a solution (already prooved if working ?) by WiredPirate in the xda forum
Titanium Backup
<backup/restore< "click to edit filters"< filter by name: "updater"< apply< updater2.2.2< freeze!
DO NOT FREEZE UPDATER
Sorry for caps - I've done it before & my battery life was shocking - Although i did freeze it after i started to get notifications to update
So what to do ?
- Update (when an update will be availiable) ? and all the work to get it back to rooted etc
- No update ? and to keep the Atrix like it is (as it is running fine)
Tell me.
1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
So what to do ?
- Update (when an update will be availiable) ? and all the work to get it back to rooted etc
- No update ? and to keep the Atrix like it is (as it is running fine)
Tell me.
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I plan on waiting for the update to be out for awhile and read what others are saying about it.
Once they know how to get root, I'll update.
Keep in mind Titanium Backup can backup/restore just about everything after a wipe so it wouldn't be too much work..
I think this next update will be very much worth the hassle of rooting it again (you won't have to worry about sideloading - AT&T is going to enable it). I've read somewhere that for the gingerbread version, motorola's priority was for performance and this next version of motoblur isn't as bad as froyo's. Not only that, but gingerbread can make the 2 cores on the atrix work on every app, not only dual-core-optimized ones, and of course bug fixes, optimizations, etc. "Everything" should improve overall.
I'm in the same boat as you are (sim-unblocked, rooted, sideloaded) and when it goes live, i will wait a couple days before updating to see what people say about it. The only case i won't update it is if it removes sim-unblocking, which i doubt it will. Enabling root will be done eventually, these devs are awesome.
1.ATRIX-in-PT said:
Sorry. As English is not my native language, I noticed that I explained wrong. Let me try better:
Yes. I am up to date. If I am updated, I do not know, but my ATRIX is ;-). 4.1.8.3 and 2.2.2. But ...
... as we read a lot about an upcoming Android Gingerbread for our Atrix, I am sunk in thoughts what should I do (when it happened !).
Actually everything is perfect on my Atrix, after a potential update probably not anymore. So will it be worth to update ? And to get everything back to "normal" (rooted, sideload, ...), the risk to brick the phone ...
Of course nobody really knows now, but how was it in the past with other Motorola smartphones ? For example the update from 2.1 to 2.2 ? What was your experience ?
Anyway. There is still my question, how can I disable an automatic update ? Would be happy, if somebody knows.
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When Gingerbread for the Atrix comes out, you'll lose your root if you update. However, Gingerbread will enable sideloading, which is a huge reason for many AT&T users to root anyway. You will have to go back to stock 2.2.2 in order to receive the OTA update to Gingerbread. It's your decision as to update or not, but I think that the benefits of Gingerbread outweigh the downsides of losing root, etc.
I would say wait for the update, let others who knows what they are doing do the update and root etc. then read the thread and update if/when needed. At least that's my approach. I like Gingerblur 4 on my Atrix.
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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
joe.kerwin said:
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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He didn't ask you.
disturkis4u said:
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
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Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
Today I received an OTA system update version 1.82.405.1 on my HDZ.
Does anybody here received or installed it??
And what kind of update is it?
I'm affraid of losing root again, similar like what happend with version 1.72.
I feel like I'm stating the obvious here, but NEVER EVER install an OTA if you have root! I'm sure you know this now from your previous experiance, but just to save you trouble incase you didn't know. As for the update, I'm not sure what it contains, but it seems like an older update as the newest version of virtuous is based on 1.85.72.2.
EDIT: Also suggest reading this if you haven't already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
Thnx.
But I've read it's safe to flash an OTA update once you've rooted your phone with the Gfree method.
I now running a stock 1.72 rom, rooted with Gfree / psneuter.
In that case I'm not sure, but I wouldn't try it until it's been confirmed to be ok. And while I'm sure you have you're reasons, but why not try out the likes of virtuous? It's pretty much stock sense but with added features and improved performance, and as I said it's also on the latest RUU.
Taking an OTA will *definitely* reduce you to "stock", so even if its safe, it isn't worth it.
Be aware that it *IS POSSIBLE* for an OTA UPDATE to modify your partition 7 and take away radio s-off. The only reason why people tend to say that its safe is ONLY because they never actually HAVE done that.
still i am curious about the content.
i dont need root anymore. DZ is perfectly fine without.
I don't think applying and offical OTA while rooted on a non stock rom is a good idea. If your willing to take the risk, or don't care about loosing root or getting it back if lost. Then try it out. Be the guinea pig because it doesn't look like you will take the advise of the forum you posted anyways.
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whats in the update then??
Yeah I'd like to now too
Just checked, I get the update too....
I don't have s-off or root so I think I am going to download it.
It s 17MB,
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Install the new full ROM,then you don`t loos root and S-Off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960149
OTA 1.82
romdroid. said:
whats in the update then??
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yes, it is a 17 Mb package. I got it and installed it. (nothing to lose, I have no root, I do not need it, my DZ is PERFECT without it. I have been tweaking and **** before on WinMo, but not now...)
It said it is camera improvements and other small bugfixes.
All I saw is a different sms counter on the icon, it's white numbers on a black circle, nothing special.
I had a busy day, had no time to play around.
The firmware remains 2.2.1.
I will follow up if I find out anything else.
Update: the mentiones sms counter is for a voicemail of course ))) my fault
I've read the album/gallery bugs are fixed. No need to rescan pictures anymore.
found this on another forum
Improve system performance and Camera feature enhancements.
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if any1 got the full release notes , pls post...
wanna know of the sms notification bug is solved!! thats the only thing i hate
No use as the updates are usually non-important and if they are, someone will extract it and you can flash it by itself without the risk.
HTC hasn't yet released official release notes for this update. As already said it should improve camera, system performance, fix some bugs and also improve htcsence.com -functionality.
htc 1.82.405.1 update
I just updated using the OTA update to 1.82.405.1 on my htc desire z (I have stock android).
But now the touch screen is horizontaly mirrored.
Meaning if i click on home the search button is clicked.
If i touch the icons on the left side, the right side icon registers the click.
Only center of the screen is safe
Let me know if anyone else has this issue after the recent updated.
Hopefully there is a solution out there.
UPDATE:
I did 2x hard resets which didnt help.
However a soft reset did the trick and every thing is back to normal.
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But I've read it's safe to flash an OTA update once you've rooted your phone with the Gfree method.
I now running a stock 1.72 rom, rooted with Gfree / psneuter.
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If you already have root/S-OFF, then it's only "safe" once the new release has been verified by the devs as not causing anything bad to happen with your root/S-OFF. e.g. in theory there could be a new OTA released that will permanently lock you out of root/S-OFF.
When the 1.72 OTA first came out, it wasn't rootable for quite a while, so folks with root who accepted the OTA lost their root for some time.
Damn, I am getting the feeling the new update drains the battery faster than 1.72,
phone was about empty at 11pm yesterday, it was plugged in until 8 am...
done nothing the entire day actually...
notification-bug seems to be fixed (yes, new counter for sms/mails/etc) and best part: no jumping screen, when writing sms!!! at least till now...
We all know that the new update will come soon.
But does everyone know that it looks like with the new update we won't be allowed to flash back to older versions of the software. We won't be able to downgrade to a previous version it seems, due to journaling being enabled. We will lose functionality.
Does anybody know what this would mean for rooting and mods?
Is this something that we would have to be concerned about?
Speaking in purely speculation here, wouldn't it be beneficial to at least try the previous "retain root" strategy? It's possibly, though incredibly unlikely, that they haven't fixed that loophole yet. Might as well also try Gingerbreak on it too.
In the long run though, someone will eventually crack it it. It's inevitable really. And with Motorola claiming that the bootloader will be unlocked later this year, perhaps patience is really what we all need.
Gingerbreak should work fine because its not a logic crack such as psneuter its an overflow crack. Retain root should also work but Im not sure about that.
A good rule of thumb is to let others who are either developers or brave souls update and report back what can and can't be done after an update. If you want to retain what freedom you have with your Atrix to date, do not update until official word comes from enlightened.
Dont worry the minute the new update rolls out, im going to try to root it using gingerbreak
Heh, I plan to just go ahead with it. The only root apps I really use anyway are TB and screenshot stuffs and I can live without GingerBlur. Especially since they allow you to simply uninstall the AT&T apps ^^
Speaking of which, what do you guys think, should we flash a fresh SBF before updating if we've already flashed a pseudo-ROM?
Fresh start so we don't bash the new update caused by a third party app or mod, good luck
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Heh, I plan to just go ahead with it. The only root apps I really use anyway are TB and screenshot stuffs and I can live without GingerBlur. Especially since they allow you to simply uninstall the AT&T apps ^^
Speaking of which, what do you guys think, should we flash a fresh SBF before updating if we've already flashed a pseudo-ROM?
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There is an screenshot app that doesn't need root - screen grabber - on the forum and in the market.
As for SBF before an update - based on past experience, you have to. The udpate will fail with the yellow triangle if you don't.
DON'T UPDATE YET. we need the time to analyze it. It is suggested this update modifies the bootloader to disallow flashing back to a previous version.
I'm aware of the conditions. They'll either crack it eventually or I can just wait for the bootloader unlock. I don't need root. Losing Amazon would be annoying though.
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DON'T UPDATE YET. we need the time to analyze it. It is suggested this update modifies the bootloader to disallow flashing back to a previous version.
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This is actually my biggest concern...
...........
So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
Ive not rooted or unlocked the boot loader yet myself as this is my first android device im taking it slowly but according to threads in the development section you can root and upgrade as long as you do nothing to the device before upgrading, root the phone then upgrade to 2.3.3
This means flashing backwards first obviously.
As far as upgrading in the future you will be better off flashing a custom rom if development goes well. Custom roms will take this device further than official updates will.
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So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090. Follow the steps and you shall have root on 2.3.3 . I have also opted to "freeze" the bloat this time instead of just uninstalling it, in hopes that when 2.3.4 arrives i can do the ota update again and still keep root.
Also @ -josh- rooting will not damage your phone so its safe to root. I am also a first time android user myself but following the steps in the thread above worked fine no problems. And even if it didnt you can use SEUS to fix a phone with a locked bootloader
I rooted my phone when i was using 2.3.2 and found a good improvement.
Then i updated to an unrooted 2.3.3.
Ive left it unrooted for now. 2.3.3 performance is better than a rooted 2.3.2 i find.
It would be nice to root and remove the bloatwarw and overclock to 1.5 ghz, which can now be done. But for now i am happy.
Aside from a few Gameloft games not working, 2.3.3 is outstanding.
Not going to root until something major happens. Only reason i can see to root is to clock to 1.5 ghz to get n64oid working better.
Other than that, no point imo.
i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
You can are not supposed to flash to 2.3.3.. You are supposed to flash your phone to 2.3.2 uk generic version. After root your phone and through your phone you go to settings /about/update software and upgrade it there without hooking it to the computer. Make sure that your bootloader is LOCKED, otherwise you brick your phone.
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All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
Deoxlar said:
All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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I uninstalled all my non-working gameloft games.
Anyway i can get them back without purchasing them again?
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i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
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Use this to get to 2.3.3 unrooted. Everything will be put back to stock.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ds/subject/updateservice/1.915711?cc=gb&lc=en
Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
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You are clearly doing something wrong, the only phone that can't be rooted is the version version of the play.
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Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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Thanks for this info.
Unfortunately it didnt work for me. I only have one game in the list which was Asphalt 6.
Ive bought about half of them so there should be plenty more in the list but they are not there.
Ive emailed customer service. Not really that bothered if i get them back or not but i wanted to play Sacred Odessy again. It stopped working when i updated to 2.3.3.
Nevermind.
Don't email them. Call them. Email takes more then a week for each reply. Calling us 10 minutes wait
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sheise. i've been on 2.3.3 unrooted for weeks now and i'm sick of the bloatware... flashing a 2.3.2 UK generic ROM via FlashTool gives back an error that's why i stuck to 2.3.3 unrooted..
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oh well, the root-the-2.3.2-then-update-to-2.3.3-via-OTA method suddenly worked today.. sheise!
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
crimsonnight said:
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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so everyone still uses FlashTool? it gives me back an error so i used WotanClient. Worked like a charm! I'm now on 2.3.3 UK Generic ROOTED! and works like anything else here in the philippines!
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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Thanks, so if I want there's an option to keep all my data/settings? Basically I could flash a rooted version of 2.3.3 onto my xperia play running 2.3.3? Cheers
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.