I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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bigshotrob22 said:
Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.
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I'm dying to get FlyX or Tranquility on by DX. But since I just barely got my phone, I already have the 2.2 OTA. Does anyone know if the FlyX or Tranquiliy will work on the 2.2 OTA? I have the 2.2 system sbf that p3droid put out, so I should be able to flash back to 2.2 OTA, right?
I would like some confirmation that I won't totally brick my phone if I give it a try. This being my first android phone and all, I would hate to brick it days after I got it.
Short answer, yes. See this post for longer answer, then follow the wiki for each step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8337703&postcount=99
Thanks. I'm already rooted, have Koush's bootstrap. I was just a bit nervous making the big jump. I'll reply back here to let everyone know how it went.
Yes please do, I'm in the same situation as you.
I just installed Droid X Bootstrapper and made a back up, I'm planning on deodexing it tomorrow and possibly install one of those roms.
Let me know how it goes for you!
I have fly x on top of official 2.2 928droids deodexerrr was a big help. No issues here. Good luck
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FlyX over OTA 2.2 worked just fine. Unfortunately it's not much different than what I had before (bloatware removed). Hopefully birdman has an ace up his sleeve and we'll get true custom ROMs.
I doubt it though. (sad face)
PS I hate emoticons.
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
malvoc said:
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
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Wrong section.
Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
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Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
RacerXFD said:
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
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this ^^
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You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.
I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.
Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
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Does anybody know if there is any developer making a app like z4root to root gingerbread. I would like to be able to root just for some of the apps that require root. I do not want sbf back to stock and go through all that hassle.
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I too would like to see this Now if the dev that made z4root is still activate I hope they will optimize this code for gingerbread as well
why not just install the rooted version of gingerbread.......
jetracer said:
why not just install the rooted version of gingerbread.......
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exactly the rooted version is the same its just pre-rooted still has all the blur and everything why bother using an app to root when it comes rooted
It's better that the root method isn't publicly known. P3 can keep putting out prerooted images and Motorola/Google can't find the exploit as easily so we can keep rooting away.
Yea I agree, just get the pre-rooted image and stick with P3's updates - he keeps us ahead of the mainstream by a couple months anyways. I guarantee that P3 is looking out for YOUR interest way more then VZW and he has the resources to get us what we need. I'm pretty sure he must be involved with moto in some degree... I'm pretty sure thats where he gets all his early builds that are going to Verizon at the same time for more testing.... Except while they lag and usually don't even release those particular builds, because of P3 we get to tinker around with them and test too Support TBH!!!
I would like to use this post to document any way to manual root .596 gingerbread. I know p3droid is doing awesome work building prerooted updates but having a manual route is always nice.
Thank you everyone.
Edit...mistyped version number.
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Its .596 ................
I did. Since I was on the .595 and I had the older radio, I had to SBF back to 2.3.340 first and because of that I had to lose my recent data (last froyo nandroid was two months ago). Anyways it seems to be nearly identical to the .595 once it is up and running. My two cents
I have an X that's running stock Gingerbread, and I'd like to root it. So a manual root method that doesn't require SBFing back to Froyo would be very welcome...
Why does everyone act like SBF'ing is so hard? It takes ten to fifteen minutes and has the same amount if not less risk than flashing a rom
It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
I am also curious about manual rooting. I don't have a problem SBF'ing and have done it many times. I would like to learn more about Android and its internals.
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It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
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I used Titanium Backup to backup all apps and user data, then restore after the upgrade to GB. Don't have to spend a ton of time setting up the phone.
It's the configuring the phone, not the SBF that's the issue
I concur -- SBF is simply, straight forward and quick. The problem is the amount of time it takes to get the phone set up again, especially moving from one flavor of Android to another. I've got 15 minutes to SBF. I don't have the hour or two to fiddle with the apps, configurations, etc.
So I second the call for a method to root stock Gingerbread. I miss my ad blocker...
I have read that gingerbreak works intermittently on some but not all .596 droid x's.
Current method to root works fine thanks to P3droid method 2. If you already have a prerooted 2.2 running the latest OTA you just need two files to install and you will have a .596 rooted droid x. If you jumped the gun and installed the OTA... then yes you need to find a way to root your .596...
Setting up SBF for the first time is not difficult just a little scary. Luckily there are alot of guides out there to help and the bootloader didn't change. Good luck!
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But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
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its kinda weird but the droid x2 shipps with 2.2.2, just the newer form of blur like the gingerbread droid x has. Also, it has been able to be rooted by gingerbreak so i guess there's some hope.
I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
I have the same problem. I think I have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079504 guide but i'm too lazy/scared to try right now. I might just wait for 4.0 and then see.
DeeJayCruiser said:
I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
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Question - If you are rooted this is a no brainer. YOU JUST SAY NO... what ever they are offering you has probably been in the forum as a rom for quite some time. If they are offering you an update it probably means you are running an older rooted rom. Just update to the new rooted one in the development section.
DeeJayCruiser said:
I keep getting prompted to download the new OTA update but I have a rooted custom rom (tiamat 1.4.4) can i download it anywya?
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You could download it but I wouldn't recommend it. Best case scenario is you would just loose root. worse case is it won't boot (soft bricked) after install because it's not upgrading a "stock" phone. Pretty sure you will just loose root as tiamat 1.4.4 is not really a true full rom it's just a kernel.
Anyways I recommend you follow the instructions at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979to put on the "right" clockworkmod recovery. and then put on The HammerHead Rom (which is based on 3.2) at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203635 the Hammerhead rom runs perfect for me (and most everyone else). Then put on the 3.2 Overclocked Kernel at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200063
I was basically in your situation and I got all that done and all my 100+ apps reinstalled (using Titanium Pro) and basically everything set back up in about 2.5 hours.
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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playya said:
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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Easy, killer. Guy is probably just double checking.
playya said:
Honestly how much research is done prior to rooting or do some of you just root for the hell of it. This is why there are so many I may of bricked my device threads......
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I feel ya playaa... I used to be one of those folks. I did minimal research and just wanted to root to hack a videogame... Then i realized all the wonderful benefits of rooting and roms and spend hours reading new topics on development... But i still have friends that all ask me silly questions all day and one even ugraded ota on their g2 and lost root.. Now they have ginger 2.3.2 i thi k and that cannot be rooted last i checked. I do wonder why people do the minimal searching... I took the time to learn this stuff so why can they... It does get frustrating
Sorry. Not trying toput the OP down.. I mean we all start somewhere, but google and search feature are huge helps =)