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EVO tablet

I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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babyschoof said:
I'm officially putting in a request for an EVO tablet. Since there were no major upgrades to the ipad, OK perhaps a few, let's go in for the kill.
I'm not impressed with the price point and no wifi only for xoom, HTC should go in for the kill
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You got it. i'll pass that along to HTC. i'm SURE they'll listen and jump on it straightaway.
Seriously though, the ipad is difficult to beat. they did actually make a major upgrade in the new A5 processor with dual core. they also thinned it out a bit, the rest is mediocre like you said.

HTC already announced it, it's called the HTC Flyer and it doesn't look all that good. Single core running a tablet like sense on top of 2.3.

Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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babyschoof said:
Here is the real concern... will honeycomb really be ready for primetime? All the videos I have seen of the xoom are choppy and crash quite a bit. I have yet to be blown away. However look at the stock evo. If it wasn't for cm7, I would be looking for something else. Why can't the manufacturers get it right. Perhaps they need some schooling form cyan?
Just saying.
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I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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Um .... Cm _is_ just AOSP...

Award Tour said:
I give CM props but give them a bare device with no drivers and just AOSP and lets see them do better.
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You just defined what Cyanogenmod is in your own post and discredited it at the same time.

Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.

Award Tour said:
Obviously I know that CM uses AOSP. My point is that a lot of their work is dependent on the release of OEM source (drivers, etc). If they had to take AOSP and port Android to an entirely new device/hardware it'd be a different story. They add a lot of cool extra functionality but a lot of what they do is clean up existing code.
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"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).

Justin.G11 said:
"a lot of their work" .... I don't think you understand what they do.
The _only_ thing they depend on the OEM source for is the kernel for the drivers because, obviously, they don't write the drivers. The rest of 2.3.3 that my EVO is running is compiled directly against the Google released source.
If they needed the OEM source how are they _ahead_ of every OEM out there right now in releases? No device they support has official GB yet. None.
Theres a reason you can only get GB on AOSP and no Sense based ROMs have it. They aren't waiting on HTC for anything beyond the drivers in the kernel ... which they got in November when they finally released the 004 camera drivers (unless a 005 surfaces).
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I was replying to the poster who said that OEMs should be consulted by CM. I'm just saying that OEMs have to get Android running on the hardware period, not to mention develop/design their overlays, which as much as I hate, are far more encompassing than the features/tweaks CM adds. Bottom line: they got much more to worry about than mostly just cleaning up. Not trying to discredit CM, just suggesting not to downplay the bigger role OEMs have in the process.

Thank you for the laugh of the day. VERRY WELL SAID?
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I've got the answer. The hardware is so similar between the vendors now, so google should set the standard (not the crappy half assed job they did before) and do an X-Prize type contest. Make one kick butt tablet and have the best minds compete. No skins, no bloatware, just a solid device. Sure they burn a lot of bridges with their vendors, but everyone would want it, and Google comes out ahead in the long run. Truly compete against apple with an open platform. The gPhone!
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Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.

Imprezed said:
Ipad 2 is already beat Check out the eee slate from asus. Amazing product.
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Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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novanosis85 said:
Wow you were not joking. Love Windows 7.
Now that's a tablet.
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It fills a niche. I personally have a hard time buying any of the "phone" tablets because if I'm on a computer 99% of the time I either have a IDE/Photoshop/Illustrator open. None of the current tablets will able to do what I need. But Windows 7 is not really fit for tablet - I used to have a Tablet PC running Windows 7 and you might as well just get a decent dual core Atom netbook (which I do have) because it's not worth it.
What I'm waiting for is Windows 8. It'll probably be very touch friendly in desktop mode and is suppose to have a secondary WP7/Metro-like shell which I assume will also be able to run mobile/tablet-like mini apps. Either use it like a iPad/Xoom/whatever or dock it to a keyboard and get real **** done. Best of both worlds and it'll probably work great with next gen Atoms or energy sipping multiple core ARM CPUs.

Can I just say that the guy bagging on CM7 is a douche? Can this be a "douche-bump" post?
That just happened!

What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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CM is not for everyone. Saying cm is the only reason to be on these forums is retarded. Might ad well rename this site cm7-4-life.com.
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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That's great that you're a big fan of CM, but not everyone likes or uses their ROMs. AOSP is not for everyone, that's why I'm glad we have choices.
MIUI 1.2.25 with stock kernel
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babyschoof said:
What I don't understand is if you don't like the cm mod, why are you even on this forum. It might not be perfect, but even the nightlies are better than many finished products. There are also a good bunch of guys always willing to help out. I'm a big fan!
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are you talking to me? Because CM is just about the only ROM I use and the reason why I even got the EVO in the first place. I think you're completely missing my point.
Someone said that OEMs (like HTC, Samsung) should get consulted by the CM team. I said its not a fair comparison because:
A. Most of the time CM depends on OEM provided drivers to get CM running. That in itself can be a hard thing to implement from scratch on a new device. Android isn't like Windows where you can buy a license and Microsoft provides full support.
B. OEM skins like Sense and Touchwiz are much bigger projects than the tweaks/functions that CM adds.
I just thought that poster was undervaluing how much the OEM has to do, and that getting consulted by the CM team is probably not as valuable to them as he thinks.
If any team should do contracting/consulting, it should be the MIUI team. Their work is incredibly impressive and covers a far larger scope than CM. At least they do a consumer/user friendly job at modifying/skinning Android - the best on Android in fact, OEM skins/overlays included.
Anyway, you took this way too personally and over blown it (why?) way beyond what it is. I appreciate and use CM but am not disillusioned or completely uninformed by the reality of consumer development.
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[DEV][ROM] Nexus S ROM development

Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.

Really looking forward to see what you come up with mate! Best luck!

I'd be interested in this - I must say I haven't tried developing for the Android yet but I have developed things for PC and have worked with Linux for many years so should be quite easy to pick up! PM me if you like.

sounds good. i can design images (create, modify, etc) pm me with details. cheers..

Welcome to Nexus S, i also love this phone and i hope you come up with something amazing. Seems that the devs start rollling in. They just yesterday or the day before released Nexus S in some of the major contries of Europe. Hope the Nexus S will come alive now

I've had ideas for my own custom ROM. So, if I have the time, I would like to help out. I will try to write up a list of all my ideas later. One of the big ones is that CM requires a custom kernel than ROMs based off stock. They leave something out, so this ROM should do things right from the start and make sure that kernels built for stock, will run. That will make it easier for users to pick their own kernel and kernel Devs would not need to do anything different to make their kernels work with it.
Cheers.

And make me your non-contributing trainee I wanna learn stuff. Just don't know where to start. I m J2EE developer, hardly have to peep outside enterprise web applications

Really glad to see ROM Dev's joining this forum - soon we can have many ROM choices like Galaxy S or Vibrant.
I'm very good with graphic designing (strictly no coding or scripting), let me know if you need my help.

I have been debating making a rom. I used to dev for my captivate, n1, and hero. I think I may start with the ns soon .
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Since you tried to make amethyst on desire a stockish rom, why don't you try to run sense on the nexus s

python08 said:
Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.
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Finally someone who has similar aims to a custom rom like me (MIUI scope) I have loads of ideas, some dev skills and some graphics too, and would love to collaborate. Ill send through a PM soon, I made some mockups ages ago for some of the ideas, so you can get an idea of where I'm coming from.
Welcome and enjoy your Nexus S too!
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Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.

I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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nicknowsky said:
Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.
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Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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Darrien13 said:
Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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drivers mainly, HTC Sense is for HTC devices and hardware. We unfortunately have a Samsung. I dunno about a Sense port for the Vibrant, Im gonna look into that.

Count me in. Hit me with a pm
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Jrbourque said:
I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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The dev's that develop here either don't like TW or don't have the knowledge. Why make a TW rom when the blind fanboi's here lack the objectivity to see what is better and worse. Even CM took something from TW that they liked...doesn't necessarily make TW better but adds a nice touch. They don't get the point when you say this phone can't do a certain thing when every phone since the original Google experience phones can do it. It's like the world is playing a joke on me. I blame the trendiness that has enveloped Android these days. Back when the main phones were MT3G, G1, Hero nobody cared whether everyone liked it they just did it to show they can and because it has an advantage. You can't see an advantage objectively when your blinded with fanboiism(I just made that up..go me).

I think you are under the impression it would be simple to create a TW rom for nexus s. If so.you are sadly mistaken. If it was easy to do someone might do it but it's not. And TW sucks so bad already that taking the time and effort just to get it half working is pointless.
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Oh I'm not saying I want a tw rom ...just surprising to not see it done yet..just due to the fact of how many sense roms are made for nexus one
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this is staying in G area until we see some real work going on
it'll be moved back to DEV when a working ROM becomes available

Cyanogen signs on to develop for Samsung

Here

I'm hoping his "Rockstar" status may bleed over and he will be able to maybe help influence in some way the build quality. I know the software will for sure improve. IMO
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Good for him.
We'll see if it ruins CM.

Seems like a positive to me. I like my OEMs to be stocked with employees of a true open-source mind set. I've got zero worries about CM. Like someone pointed out elsewhere, it's not like he doesn't already have a dayjob now. He ain't maintaing CM7 for a living. And even if he were to quit entirely tomorrow CM would still roll along just the same. There's too many maintainers and devices now for it to be stopped.
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jesusice said:
Seems like a positive to me. I like my OEMs to be stocked with employees of a true open-source mind set. I've got zero worries about CM. Like someone pointed out elsewhere, it's not like he doesn't already have a dayjob now. He ain't maintaing CM7 for a living. And even if he were to quit entirely tomorrow CM would still roll along just the same. There's too many maintainers and devices now for it to be stopped.
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+1 He started the ball rolling now it has momentum of it's own.Besides he'll always be there to help.

Seems like CM has slowed down a lot more without him around as much
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Hitting the thanks button is soo much easier then typing thanks!

Cm has enough community support to keep moving. I think it's a good thing.
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+1 for cyanogen. I think its awesome the samsung brought him on there team. It will make my next phone choice that much harder. Even though i like sense based roms better i would be very interested in seeing a samsung running CM like rom out the box

Ubuntu OS is dead.... Right?

Seems interest has been completely lost...
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What? Not following you... Interest is alive and well...
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I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
But there are plenty of developers, developing stuff!

Subscribe to the mailing list and you'll see just how active development really is, no where near dead.
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Toxina said:
I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
But there are plenty of developers, developing stuff!
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This. There isn't much use for this build with the consumer crowd. This build is more for those building apps for Ubuntu Touch

ks3rv3rg said:
Subscribe to the mailing list and you'll see just how active development really is, no where near dead.
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I subscribed to the mailing list and I have not had any news at all.

I kind of agree. I got my gnex just for Ubuntu touch, but in waiting for it I've found myself falling in love with android all over again. Its so nice on nexus devices. That's why I'm ordering my nexus 4 Friday. Can't honestly see me flashing Ubuntu touch on it, maybe on my gnex. Sad but true. Though I expect others will feel different.
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Toxina said:
I'd say most of the enthusiasts are waiting for the upcoming "Daily Driver in a few weeks".
But there are plenty of developers, developing stuff!
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That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?

Logseman said:
That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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Especially when we android devs already know how hard it is getting support and sources out of some of these chip manufacturers!
But that said - we're an enterprising bunch and I think we'll see support for many devices already out there. You only have to look at the amount of ports that already have GUI up and working.
To answer the OP - as others have said - it feels dead as no one is really using it yet because it is so incomplete. There's no point us here on XDA jumping up and fixing it because Canonical are already hard at work at their end. As soon as we start seeing alpha (May), beta and RCs you'll see this OS jump to life on a lot of devices here on XDA.
It'll be interesting to see how these ports fair when they make the jump to MIR and stop using CM code though.

Logseman said:
That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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This is true, I really wanted this to happen. It seemed like something fresh and new. But I kind of feel the preview was just to appease people, it feels like it will go like Ubuntu for android. Big promises, but no end result. A daily driver was meant to be out any day now but I wouldn't hold your breath. I think they have bitten off more than they can chew. Look how long its taken Mozilla to get an os up and running. I'd like to be wrong, but we will see. Great idea, great design but questionable execution.
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Be al little patient people....its still in development. The the first phones with ubuntu will come next year...but the progression behind the screen is enormous. And its not only about the phone but is about one OS on all your devices. Tv, pc, tablet and phones.
Its going to be awesome...
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liawim said:
Be al little patient people....its still in development. The the first phones with ubuntu will come next year...but the progression behind the screen is enormous. And its not only about the phone but is about one OS on all your devices. Tv, pc, tablet and phones.
Its going to be awesome...
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I don't think patients is what we're on about. The only person setting time limits is Mark Shuttleworth, its more about if it ever happens. Don't think anyone minds if it take a week, month or a year. Its the promises and then not happening that frustrates me and I'm sure others. I was excited about Ubuntu for android over a year ago, was even going to buy an atrix. Now I've gone and got a gnex and for Ubuntu touch. Then a week before its supposed realise, all of a sudden its a dev preview! The first videos and info left that info out and its running on cyanogen mod. That's not quite what we were told ether. All that aside the point being, I'm not against it intact I'd love it to happen. But in using this stock device I've found myself not really wanting to move and also expecting it not to happen. I can't help but feel the reality was more about getting people to use Ubuntu PC rather than touch. Its almost like any publicity is good publicity. Its not about time, its about truth and the truth is people are getting no feed back, where are they at, what they need, there's a whole community of developers at there disposal and there not using them. I had gone off android, Ubuntu touch has only made me love it again. I'm not trying to start an argument, its my view. Ubuntu to me just feels disorganised. Google doesn't!
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I think that Canonical made ​​a mistake in announcing the DEVELOPER PREVIEW how they did, because it seems that many people do not know the difference between CONSUMER and DEVELOPER PREVIEW , and then come here in despair waiting for the OS.

Canonical release the dev preview to appease the us then it died down were still gonna have a long wait b4 am official release after that happens if we die down again then we're dead
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I think that Canonical made ​​a mistake in announcing the DEVELOPER PREVIEW how they did, because it seems that many people do not know the difference between CONSUMER and DEVELOPER PREVIEW , and then come here in despair waiting for the OS.
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Yes and no. When it was enounced there was no developer tag. It was a week in before that was added, I can't help but feel that the "developer preview" was originally going to be complete but they realised they couldn't manage it, so they realised what they had as a "developer preview" it kind of feels like they messed up and tryed to cover it up. I might be way off base here, it makes little difference to me as I've already said I'll be staying on android for now. Least on my nex4, witch will be my every day phone. I might try it on my gnex if it ever emerges but I won't hold my breath. . . to be clear I'm not annoyed at it taking time, I'm just saying to everyone don't expect it soon if ever. We will see.
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jzero88 said:
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Not even close - there are already daily drivers and you can already test all the core apps on Ubuntu desktop.
Soon these will head over the the phone. Besides that you can already load your own apps onto the OS.
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Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-

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Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-
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darkforester67 said:
Ubuntu touch is dead?, seriously?, how could you say such a thing when it's still in development... Mark Shuttleworth said it'll be ready for daily use soon so just hold tight and wait a bit.. Honestly I don't like posts like these because it makes the community lose hope in the OS when it's not even ready yet.. -.-
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he say it will be ready for daily use for couple weeks.i Can't ****ing wait!
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Logseman said:
That was an irresponsible mistake by Mark Shuttleworth to say. Ubuntu is piggybacking on CM, how can he guarantee compatibility with all those phones?
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Isn't that what open source is recycling (or piggybacking) from other peoples work. Why rewrite what's already there I would have found it idiotic if they didn't use cm.
Next your going to say they freeload off debian.

Wrong move?

Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Not sure what you are looking for or what you are missing, but there has been plenty of Dev support for the VZW VS980

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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I am talking from my experience with the G Pro. There are Roms but really all those CM based Roms or other ones are all weak compared to the stock based Roms. U loose so many features with those costume Roms. From dual shot camera and video to quick note to smart screen and smart video to some other great features u only have on stock ROM. U basically gonna cripple ur G2 if u use a costume ROM.
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Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.

ericdabbs said:
OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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This thread happens with every new phone lol! O.P even the phones you want to exchange with this one at some point had threads just like this one right before ROMS became available

2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from a lot of support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Sounds like the OP is the typical "user" anymore. For some reason even tjo they have no idea the amount of work that goes into building a rom or a kernel or mod, they just somehow feel entitled to get it when they want it. Guess what dude, had HTC ONE on release day , and development was slower than the G2 is. Want a rom when you want it.....build it yourself . this **** aint easy, if it was youd be building a rom instead of *****ing about it.

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.

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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Or just get an iPhone, it seems to have as much development future as the G2 according to the OP

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Then return it, or sack up n learn how to do it yourself.....

Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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It hasn't even been a full month yet, and we have a decent amount of mods and a couple ROMs already. That's nothing to scoff at by any sort of reasonable standard. Slow your roll, bro.

Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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im a flashaholic, and once i got root on this bad boy i got all my apps i needed
gameplay is smooth
im really liking lg's UI and stock rom/kernel
Phone rarely even gets warm ,not hot.
Camera is really great
Quick Remote is great as well
Im satisfied with stock rom for once. lol
battery is INSANE checkout post #76 screenshots , no way thatll happen on the ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470564&page=8

I've owned plenty of popular flagship devices and even though they have plenty of ROM selection, I've found them to be very similar to each other so I only chose between two or three different ones as my daily driver... So ROM selection is usually over rated based on all the copycat ROM available.
I personally enjoyed my time more with the smaller and unpopular devices that had fewer ROM's at first but then development picked up. Which I think will be the case with this phone.
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Or how about STFU...I think that about covers it ?
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I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Medialunas said:
I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Ya with the nexus phone for sure. But for there non nexus phones.? I don't know if LG can be trusted to update those. Lol
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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from my experience the best roms out there is the one close to the ship rom. any AOSP or etc. roms will have missing features.

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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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U diserve it, whining cause someone else isnt doing work u want on your timeframe....... If its that big of a deal, do some research, and learn.... then u dont have to depend on anyone but u...