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[Q] Honeycomb v4--PhireMod--???

I have a nook that currently has the Honeycomb v4 ROM running on eMMc...and for what it is I've been pretty happy with it. However, I've hoped that fairly soon there would be a full-fledged working Honeycomb version for the Nook since Xoom is out, etc...but I'm a little concerned that it seems all Honeycomb versions and development seems to have stalled, if not died. I haven't seen anything new in a long time.
Maybe we're still waiting for the AOSP to be released, but I would like to eventually have Flash and anything else that would run by default on a full-fledged Android 3 tablet, if the genius developers would grace us all with such a ROM. In a worst case, I don't want to be orphaned with what I have now and have to give up and drop back to the latest Nook 1.2 version if I can avoid it.
So, does anyone have any news about Android 3 on the Nook---is anyone still working toward this---if so/when?
Also, I'm curious about what other ROM's may be out there that are as good as the recent 1.2 update...have Flash, etc...if any. I've looked at the 4/29 Phiremod 6.2/ CM 7.0.2 which sounds pretty slick, so I'd appreciate any comments about it and how it looks or compares to the Honeycomb version, etc. I'm up for any suggestions.
Thanks,
JTT

Devs can't do anything with honeycomb till the Source is Released, and google has not stated when that will be

Its like this:
-Google hasn't released Honeycomb source, and said they won't until it is integrated with the cellphone branch (which will be a new version - Ice Cream Sandwich)
-The CM7 developers can't work on a Android OS without a source code to modify for the Nook Color
-Much work was done on CM7 (Gingerbread) to give it some of the best parts of Honeycomb- softkeys on the status bar
-Once the source for a tablet Android OS is released the large community of the Nook Color almost guarantees a port, as much work has been done to leave that option open
-We will know a better timeline after this:
http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/
-There is work on a newer SDK port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062626

jttraverse said:
I have a nook that currently has the Honeycomb v4 ROM running on eMMc...and for what it is I've been pretty happy with it. However, I've hoped that fairly soon there would be a full-fledged working Honeycomb version for the Nook since Xoom is out, etc...but I'm a little concerned that it seems all Honeycomb versions and development seems to have stalled, if not died. I haven't seen anything new in a long time.
Maybe we're still waiting for the AOSP to be released, but I would like to eventually have Flash and anything else that would run by default on a full-fledged Android 3 tablet, if the genius developers would grace us all with such a ROM. In a worst case, I don't want to be orphaned with what I have now and have to give up and drop back to the latest Nook 1.2 version if I can avoid it.
So, does anyone have any news about Android 3 on the Nook---is anyone still working toward this---if so/when?
Also, I'm curious about what other ROM's may be out there that are as good as the recent 1.2 update...have Flash, etc...if any. I've looked at the 4/29 Phiremod 6.2/ CM 7.0.2 which sounds pretty slick, so I'd appreciate any comments about it and how it looks or compares to the Honeycomb version, etc. I'm up for any suggestions.
Thanks,
JTT
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I was in the same boat so I installed Phiremod (CM7 with a cool theme) which is awesome.
The thing I originally didn't like about CM7 compared to Honeycomb was the location of the soft back button. HC made much more sense because it was designed for tablets without buttons. CM7 now includes "tablet tweaks" which is switched on by default. This tweaks move the status bar to the bottom and add good soft buttons on the left side of the bottom (by default...they can be moved around). The tweaks along with Flash support and the fact that Google announced it will be a while before HC is added to AOSP tipped the scale to CM7 for me.
Pros of Honeycomb:
New interface that is more like a PC than a phone (contrary to Steve Job's "tablets are post-PC devices" lol)
Great email client and widget
Awesome native browser
Everybody thinks you are cool because you have HC running on an eReader (women were just throwing themselves at me so my wife made me switch lol)
Pros of CM7
99.9% of everything works. Most problems with HC for the Nook were problems that HC has on other devices but they are still problems. Gingerbread is much more mature.
Bluetooth is working. People say it only works for short distances. I never wander too far from my keyboard so I am not sure.
Tablet tweaks allow most of the cool UI functionality that is included with honeycomb.
I am not sure if HC v4 includes hardware acceleration but Flash and other videos work better on CM7.
I recommend using both. Flash CM7 to your primary partition and if you want to use Honeycomb, set up dual boot and flash HC to your second partition or run HC from an SD card.
I also recommend trying the Stock 1.2 ROM. You won't be happy with it after using honeycomb and CM7 but it is worth a look because it is quite nice for somebody with no technical knowledge like my mother.

Activity is definitely picking up on the new port. I would keep an eye on the post and I'm betting within a couple of days, it will be fairly stable and worth flashing.
SDK Honeycomb New Port

Thanks to all...I'll take the advice..
Thanks all, these were some very thought-out and helpful responses...even if I have to decide whether I want the women throwing them at me over having HC4 on my Nook, or whether I want to have my Nook do the most that it can for now
(...I just know I'll have to do a dual boot since it's all about the nook..er, or is that nookie..oh nevermind...
Thanks for the info on Google and the AOSP as well...
-JT

you make having HC on your NC sound like driving a porsche... I wish it were that easy!

What to do with new nook color?

I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!

nicros said:
I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
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IMO, CM7 or Phiremod V6 (CM7 based) are the best daily drivers for Nook Color right now. Honeycomb is making big progress, but it still not as far along as the other 2 roms. You will need at least 1 SD card, but really you should have a couple. Here is a guide from user "eyeballer" to installing CM7 to your Nook's internal memory. Much more information can be found on the various other roms available, by using the search tab. Best of luck and welcome to the world of Nook!

I tried Froyo and CM7 and couldn't get used to the soft keys. with CM7 2 months ago i wasn't able to connect to my office's wireless network.
I switched over to Deeper-Blue's V4 honeycomb, and the only issue i honestly had for my use of the tablet was no calendar support and having to unmount the SD card in order to install some apps.
I ended up buying Touchdown Exchange to take care of the calendar/email for my business, the wireless worked at my office, and i could play angry birds on a bigger screen as well as reading my kindle app.
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app.
just my 2 cents.

MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.

MS3FGX said:
MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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Hahah..... You're right about the overgrown android phone with the CM7, but it's sure hard to knock the stability of it at the moment. I'll have to give Madcat's HC a try this weekend. I know huge improvements have been made over the last week or so, but haven't had a chance to flash it.

Overgrown phone? I felt that way with NookieFroyo but CM7 with tablet tweaks is awesome. Softkeys right on the taskbar was genius and actually works as opposed to Softkeys on NookieFroyo hellbent on making me go crazy. Honeycomb is the dream but for now Im loving CM7.

And of course, CM7 (therefore phiremod) also has bluetooth support

Found the madcat version-
No OC kernel tho, thats too bad. Will give it a go anyways.

artcwolf said:
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app...
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Does the kindle app actually work correctly for you?
I'm using madcat's v3 atm and the kindle app page's always get messed up, as if it's set for a larger screen.
Sent from HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I went back to the previous version of the kindle app. The latest version did work, but like you said it seemed the pages were messed up.
I changed my LCD density down to 120, but haven't tested the app since then.

Honeycomb on the Nook Color PSA

This is a public service announcement for those who want to use Honeycomb on the Nook Color:
Honeycomb on the Nook Color is basically a tech demo!!!
Yes, it is cool that the Nook Color runs Honeycomb, and the fact that it does is due to the great work of many developers who have stretched the limits of our ereader. With that said, Honeycomb on the Nook Color is not- and will not be- equivalent to the other ROM options. If you are trying to do something on Nook Honeycomb and it doesn't work, there are probably very good reasons for that.
Development on Honeycomb has run into many problems:
1. (by far biggest problem) Honeycomb's source is not released, unlike other versions of Android. This means developers cannot customize Honeycomb for Nook Color like what has been done with CM7 (which is the Gingerbread version of Android). Our Honeycomb is a binary SDK version hacked to work on our device.
2. Much of Honeycomb and its applications are optimized for the Tegra platform. Even if you don't know what that is, just know its something that all on-the-market Honeycomb tablets have that the Nook Color doesn't have.
Now for the big question:
But isn't Honeycomb Android's tablet version, so doesn't that mean I don't have a real tablet without Honeycomb?
I see many people fall into the trap that Honeycomb=Tablet and everything else Android=Phone. This could not be more untrue. Samsung released its Galaxy Tab without Honeycomb last year to high reviews, and HTC has just released a brand new tablet without Honeycomb.
The great developers in this community have modified the phone version of Android so significantly that it gives a great tablet experience. The CM7 developers (fattire, verygreen, dalingrin, nemith) have taken the Gingerbread source and have made the Nook Color's hardware work perfectly with that version of Android. In fact they have gone above and beyond and made it so hardware that Barnes and Nobles never intended to work (internal bluetooth, USB support, etc.) now works. Finally a developer named Mad-Murdock has modified Gingerbread itself so that it has many of the tablet features that Honeycomb has.
At this point, you may be wondering, what CAN I do without Honeycomb? The answer is quite a few things:
1. Honeycomb lacks Netflix support, our Nook Colors running CM7 can play Netflix.
2. Honeycomb games (aka Tegra games) can be run after installing the Chainfire 3D program from the market.
3. A CM7 Nook Color can be hacked to view Hulu, Honeycomb devices lack this ability currently.
4. A CM7 Nook Color has bluetooth and USB support that the Honeycomb ROM probably will never get.
5. A CM7 Nook Color has full support of its video playback capabilities which means programs like Slingplayer work, as do certain videos you encode for the Nook Color using Handbrake.
But poofyhairguy, I have convinced myself despite the above list that a tablet without Honeycomb isn't a tablet so I don't even want a Nook Color without Honeycomb!!!
If that is the case for you, then I suggest you sell your Nook Color and purchase a real Honeycomb device such as a Transformer or Xoom. Google has made it clear that it won't release the Honeycomb source before its next big version which is due this winter. That basically means that the Nook Color won't run a "real" tablet OS with full capabilities till the end of this year or the beginning of the next.
If that is unacceptable to you, time to move on. If getting all those non-Honeycomb benefits sounds great to you, then welcome to the party. In many ways the Nook Color is the best tablet on the market, you just have to think outside the box a little to get full enjoyment out of the device.
Have a nice day!

Just have to +1 on this post.
I'm one of those guys that went for the hype, Honeycomb on the Nook, WOW!
In reality if ALL you do is check your email, view non flash websites, and play Angry Birds, sure its fine. But the nook can really do SO much more and after a while you want it to do more. You're just not going to get that with Honeycomb on the nook.
The ONLY advantage you get is that the UI is very much more "tablet" but theres many fixes out there for that if you decide to run something like CM7.
Anyway though I made the switch and am not looking back, fully functional Youtube (in HQ!), Netflix, Bluetooth, USB, etc, for 200 bucks, you can't beat it.

Thanks for the input. My number one goal for this thread was to game the new thread engine a little- anyone that posts a Nook Honeycomb problem thread should see my PSA.

I am waiting for my nook color to arrive and have been doing some searching around to learn more...this post was very helpful. Thx!

I think saying that CM7 runs perfectly on a Nook Color is a little bold. I have run both and have remained on Honeycomb due to the fact that the battery issues with CM7 were too unacceptable to deal with. I'd end up with an unusable tablet for several hours all the time when the Battery would reach ultra low levels.
There were also many other feature in Honeycomb that just made it more enjoyable (tablet apps section in Market, keyboard just seems to work better, space on homescreens, etc) I also am a fan of the XboxExperts builds which include all the key elements you need in a ROM. That's the way these should be released IMO, just like they would from the store, with everything included. Having to search around for the latest GApps version is just a waste of time.
I realize the battery issue is close, but I don't feel like messing around with nightlies and OCing until it is stable. And it's taking forever and a day it seems to get it there.
Just my 2c.

WWWestonC said:
I think saying that CM7 runs perfectly on a Nook Color is a little bold. I have run both and have remained on Honeycomb due to the fact that the battery issues with CM7 were too unacceptable to deal with. I'd end up with an unusable tablet for several hours all the time when the Battery would reach ultra low levels.
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Um, I don't really know what you are talking about. Early versions of CM7 would eat down a battery, but any recent version will give you MUCH better battery life than Honeycomb thanks to the fact that CM7 has working sleep, and the Honeycomb ROM doesn't (and won't).
tablet apps section in Market
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Yes, but many are made for Tegra which means they won't work on the Nook's Honeycomb ROM. In fact CM7 is better for these tablet programs because you can use Chainfire3D to make the Tegra programs work.
Also we can't run the newest version of Honeycomb (3.1) as easily, which means eventually the app support will dry up as all REAL Honeycomb tablets have had that update available to them for a while or they ship with the 3.1 version.
keyboard just seems to work better
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Both Gingerbread and Honeycomb's keyboards are bested by the free Swiftkey Tablet Beta. I use it on CM7, just like my friend with a Xoom uses it on Honeycomb. Much better styling and function than the defaults.
space on homescreens
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Easily replicated in Launcher Pro.
I will admit that there are some things that are nice about Honeycomb that CM7 doesn't have- an orientation lock that works in landcape, a visual task switcher, a cleaner notification system, and a two-pane settings window. No one is saying that Honeycomb overall is inferior. Just our out of date HC ROMs are inferier to real Honeycomb tablets, despite the hard work of those who make them.
CM7 is much more usable overall.
I also am a fan of the XboxExperts builds which include all the key elements you need in a ROM. That's the way these should be released IMO, just like they would from the store, with everything included. Having to search around for the latest GApps version is just a waste of time.
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The nightly and stable CM7 builds lack GAPPS because Google made a deal with the community to not package those binaries into official CM ROMs. Some individuals (like XboxExpert, or phiredrop) ignore this and put out complete ROMs that are separated from official CM7 to avoid getting CM7 into more trouble. If you don't want to hunt GAPPS but you want CM7 use the phiremod ROM.
I realize the battery issue is close but I don't feel like messing around with nightlies and OCing until it is stable. And it's taking forever and a day it seems to get it there.
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It is not up to the Nook Color CM7 developers when new stable releases are put out- that is something that is done all at the same time for all CM roms across supported devices.
Plus the work on CM7 is still happening at a breakneck pace. Recently USB host support was added, as well as superior headphone and speaker controls.
We will get our stable version eventually, but until then the newest CM7 nightlies plus the overclock kernel plus GAPPS is more stable and usable than any Honeycomb ROM we have. And that is a fact...

I use the Divine Honeycomb off the SD card and like it.
Except for battery life.
I have it overclocked to 1.1ghz using setcpu
when screen is off, I have it clocked down to 300mhz.
Battery life is about 2-3hours of normal use and 1-2 days if it's off.
Pretty sad.
Is CM7 much better?

poofyhairguy said:
Thanks for the input. My number one goal for this thread was to game the new thread engine a little- anyone that posts a Nook Honeycomb problem thread should see my PSA.
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I did the same thing over on YouTube:
I just added a link to this thread in the description.

canadiankorean said:
Is CM7 much better?
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Much much better.

Gotta agree with the others on this one. Even with some of the niggles that annoyed me with CM7, I simply wasn't patient enough to deal with Honeycomb on my NC for more than about two hours. Back to CM7 I went.
Hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich will rectify this; knowing Google, they'll probably release that source code first.

Best custom rom to go with?

I will be getting my tablet tomorrow as soon as Fed Ex gets here , what I am wondering is which custom rom available for the a500 is the best one to go with? Personally I am a heavy wifi user, and will be using my tablet a lot for browsing, social, RDP, advanced experimenting, etc. I want to make sure I choose the best rom for that is fairly stable and will not have issues with the above mentioned things.
I am no stranger to roms, I have done many many phones and devices from WebOS devices to hacking some WinCE GPS units, so I am not afraid of a rom being slightly more technical to use.

I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.

ibietto said:
I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.
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Honeyvillain was one of the ones I have been considering, any quirks you find with it? Anything that should be done to it in your opinion once installed?

Also one of the reasons I am not just going with honeyvillian is no longer being supported... So I am not sure because I want to make sure whatever rom I go with will be supported .

Galaxy v1.0.5 very stable pretty fast,can see SD card,screen shoot button,good battery drain with airplane mode on and wifi.Try them all then you have the feel for each one just like most of us on here did.

I think I've tried just about every ROM on the boards , and while much of it is personal preference, ie: eyecandy and video with Virtuous Galaxy , good all around ROM Virtuous Picasso, and HoneyVillian, Virtuous Xoom which is a good solid ROM with no great battery drain, and iirc deejay has straightened out the USB storage issue. But my all time favorite so far is Virtuous Thrive, only out in it's second iteration, it's already the most stable ROM I've personally used. Like I said though, a lot of it is just personal preference.

Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!

matcatsc said:
Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!
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lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.

kjy2010 said:
lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.
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Yeah I seriously thought about going to the local target, but after local sales tax it would of been almost $440 out the door, and then $50 of that savings I would of made would be limited to target. I got one on ebay for $395 + Fedex 2 Day shipping, not too bad. With the roughly $45 I saved in real cash I am weighting out the current case options.
I am considering getting the one I think I saw you got, could be wrong though. On ebay they have those $20 ones that ship out of hong kong with a USB Keyboard, though on amazon and a few other e-retailers you can get them shipped from state side for roughly $30. I figured I could hold off on the case for a little bit and give the after market some time to get some accessories out and let some of the prices drop.
I really love the idea of the case with the keyboard, I do a lot of programming and typing based stuff so for me having a keyboard would be ideal, though I am not a fan of those KB cases in the fact that they are not designed very well, any tablet fitted into one can slip right out if tipped (nothing stopping it from sliding upward), though I imagine I could easily engineer a fix for that , though I also want to find a nice sling bag or backpack for traveling about, it's a tad bit too big for your pocket.
One of the first projects I want to work on is getting ubuntu or backtrack running, I've seen installers on the market and from what I understand they seem to work fairly well, I really hope too that someone manages to port WebOS to the a500, I imagine it would be quite possible. Maybe just a bit of a hassle with some drivers.

Have not tried the thrive yet - i just always end up back at the galaxy, hard on the juice a lot of needless apps seem to run in the background (mdj!) but it just is so smooth no browser screen ripping and its the fastest so far according to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175600
MJ-12

Just got my device 30 min ago, as soon as I connected to the wifi on the initial setup it asked me to download the new 3.1 update , which it is currently installing. Then I will do a backup and try the thrive rom.

Got my device flashed to Thrive, sofar it's pretty nice, want to try to find the games that came with it NFS and the other one... I tried the XDA app but when I tried to click my profile in it it crashed

I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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demmo81 said:
I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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Yeah I tried the thrive all day, and I found it to be not that stable. A lot of times the gallery would hang, trying to use other players for video would all hang, and an annoying bug with hitting the power button and the device going off, and then back on. I am downloading honeyvillian now.

hi ..... has nobody here tried taboonay with thor kernel... opps i mean with the kernel from he who shall not be named... fast, responsive, great battery life, etc, etc, etc,

Here's my personal take.
Each ROM has it's strengths and weaknesses. Luckily, all of the following support 5MP camera and 2MP front-facing camera, so that's not an issue.
Note that the SD card slot will mount differently in each of the following ROMs.
Virtuous Picasso - Acer-based HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Very close to stock, assume everything will work the way it's supposed to. Major downside (IMHO) -- WP7 fonts. Install Fontchanger and revert back to stock.
Virtuous Galaxy - Galaxy Tab base HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Really snappy, very nice overall. Galaxy UI reminds me of Windows 95; I'm not a fan. Overall very pleasant to use.
Virtuous Xoom - Motorola base, HC3.2, picasso-hc-kernel. It's HC3.2, so it's brag-worthy. Many peripherals you'd assume would work just don't (from what I've read). Can't save directly to secondary SD in camera. Also, some issues with mounting USB (use a 3rd party mounting app from Market).
Virtuous Thrive - No idea.
Honeyvillain - No idea.
Taboonay - Vache is awesome. Basically a clean Acer ROM. Never used it due to since-resolved kernel issues.
My personal ethic is "don't use a ROM that uses a kernel where the source is not available". As Vache says, "using kernel without sources is warez". Basically, if a ROM includes a kernel where the author won't release sources (or patches), it's not even worth messing with.
I also don't like when a ROM author sets the default clock to 1.2GHz. Default OC assumes a lot of things (like the ambient temperature of the environment of the user) -- which is "not cool" (pun intended).
If you want just "a good experience" -- root your A500, install SetCPU (google for a recent apk) and set the scheduler to Interactive, 1000MHz. If you're just hurting for 3.1 (from what I understand 3.1 for A500 is end of July), there's a stock 3.1 updater from Vache available.
I would recommend IconiaRoot (google it) and Acer Recovery installer (from Market). If you have the means, buy a license for Titanium Backup -- it will save you a ton of time switching between ROMs.
MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS MAKE A FULL BACKUP USING CLOCKWORKMOD.
What do I use? Virtuous Xoom.
Why? It's HC3.2 and it works for me. I don't use external peripherals and don't plan to.
tl;dr -- make backups. experiment. there is no "best"/silver-bullet for everyone. don't mess with ROMs that use no-source kernels.

I am trying out the xoom rom now, so far it is my favorite one that I have tried.
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for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.

dmatusek76 said:
for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.
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Does your 3G connection persist when screen turns off ??
Because mine doesnt, and i have to rr ril-daemon with the RilRestarter apk to get connected again. This does not happen with galaxy ROM, 3G remains connected when screen turns off.
Beside this issue i agree that honey Villain is the most reliable ROM atm.

no problem with screen off, i'm using latest thor kernel.

webtop and gentop2

hi
i know there are only 3 custom roms with webtop support
but can you use any of the other roms with gentop2?
i love the neutrino rom but not being able to use the webtop is a pain
just need some sort of function to run the phone on the lapdock
even if its a mirrored display
whats the best rom options or should i have stayed on stock?

Been trying out some of the ice cream builds today
They mirror the display from the phone at the phone Res so looks quite blocky
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Nope. Gentop is kind of modded OSH / webtop. Only works under blur roms.
You'll have to wait until Webtop/TabletUI will be released by moto (along with ICS).

sxg75 said:
Nope. Gentop is kind of modded OSH / webtop. Only works under blur roms.
You'll have to wait until Webtop/TabletUI will be released by moto (along with ICS).
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I doubt the atrix is at the top of motos list...
but as soon as the tabletUI resolution gets sorted,
using chroot linux would be feasable... and with great optimised releases like gendols gentop2 im sure being on par with a netbook would be possible.

why cyanmogen isn't developed and released with webtop?
so hard supporting it?