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What to do with new nook color?

I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!

nicros said:
I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
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IMO, CM7 or Phiremod V6 (CM7 based) are the best daily drivers for Nook Color right now. Honeycomb is making big progress, but it still not as far along as the other 2 roms. You will need at least 1 SD card, but really you should have a couple. Here is a guide from user "eyeballer" to installing CM7 to your Nook's internal memory. Much more information can be found on the various other roms available, by using the search tab. Best of luck and welcome to the world of Nook!

I tried Froyo and CM7 and couldn't get used to the soft keys. with CM7 2 months ago i wasn't able to connect to my office's wireless network.
I switched over to Deeper-Blue's V4 honeycomb, and the only issue i honestly had for my use of the tablet was no calendar support and having to unmount the SD card in order to install some apps.
I ended up buying Touchdown Exchange to take care of the calendar/email for my business, the wireless worked at my office, and i could play angry birds on a bigger screen as well as reading my kindle app.
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app.
just my 2 cents.

MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.

MS3FGX said:
MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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Hahah..... You're right about the overgrown android phone with the CM7, but it's sure hard to knock the stability of it at the moment. I'll have to give Madcat's HC a try this weekend. I know huge improvements have been made over the last week or so, but haven't had a chance to flash it.

Overgrown phone? I felt that way with NookieFroyo but CM7 with tablet tweaks is awesome. Softkeys right on the taskbar was genius and actually works as opposed to Softkeys on NookieFroyo hellbent on making me go crazy. Honeycomb is the dream but for now Im loving CM7.

And of course, CM7 (therefore phiremod) also has bluetooth support

Found the madcat version-
No OC kernel tho, thats too bad. Will give it a go anyways.

artcwolf said:
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app...
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Does the kindle app actually work correctly for you?
I'm using madcat's v3 atm and the kindle app page's always get messed up, as if it's set for a larger screen.
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I went back to the previous version of the kindle app. The latest version did work, but like you said it seemed the pages were messed up.
I changed my LCD density down to 120, but haven't tested the app since then.

Honeycomb on the Nook Color PSA

This is a public service announcement for those who want to use Honeycomb on the Nook Color:
Honeycomb on the Nook Color is basically a tech demo!!!
Yes, it is cool that the Nook Color runs Honeycomb, and the fact that it does is due to the great work of many developers who have stretched the limits of our ereader. With that said, Honeycomb on the Nook Color is not- and will not be- equivalent to the other ROM options. If you are trying to do something on Nook Honeycomb and it doesn't work, there are probably very good reasons for that.
Development on Honeycomb has run into many problems:
1. (by far biggest problem) Honeycomb's source is not released, unlike other versions of Android. This means developers cannot customize Honeycomb for Nook Color like what has been done with CM7 (which is the Gingerbread version of Android). Our Honeycomb is a binary SDK version hacked to work on our device.
2. Much of Honeycomb and its applications are optimized for the Tegra platform. Even if you don't know what that is, just know its something that all on-the-market Honeycomb tablets have that the Nook Color doesn't have.
Now for the big question:
But isn't Honeycomb Android's tablet version, so doesn't that mean I don't have a real tablet without Honeycomb?
I see many people fall into the trap that Honeycomb=Tablet and everything else Android=Phone. This could not be more untrue. Samsung released its Galaxy Tab without Honeycomb last year to high reviews, and HTC has just released a brand new tablet without Honeycomb.
The great developers in this community have modified the phone version of Android so significantly that it gives a great tablet experience. The CM7 developers (fattire, verygreen, dalingrin, nemith) have taken the Gingerbread source and have made the Nook Color's hardware work perfectly with that version of Android. In fact they have gone above and beyond and made it so hardware that Barnes and Nobles never intended to work (internal bluetooth, USB support, etc.) now works. Finally a developer named Mad-Murdock has modified Gingerbread itself so that it has many of the tablet features that Honeycomb has.
At this point, you may be wondering, what CAN I do without Honeycomb? The answer is quite a few things:
1. Honeycomb lacks Netflix support, our Nook Colors running CM7 can play Netflix.
2. Honeycomb games (aka Tegra games) can be run after installing the Chainfire 3D program from the market.
3. A CM7 Nook Color can be hacked to view Hulu, Honeycomb devices lack this ability currently.
4. A CM7 Nook Color has bluetooth and USB support that the Honeycomb ROM probably will never get.
5. A CM7 Nook Color has full support of its video playback capabilities which means programs like Slingplayer work, as do certain videos you encode for the Nook Color using Handbrake.
But poofyhairguy, I have convinced myself despite the above list that a tablet without Honeycomb isn't a tablet so I don't even want a Nook Color without Honeycomb!!!
If that is the case for you, then I suggest you sell your Nook Color and purchase a real Honeycomb device such as a Transformer or Xoom. Google has made it clear that it won't release the Honeycomb source before its next big version which is due this winter. That basically means that the Nook Color won't run a "real" tablet OS with full capabilities till the end of this year or the beginning of the next.
If that is unacceptable to you, time to move on. If getting all those non-Honeycomb benefits sounds great to you, then welcome to the party. In many ways the Nook Color is the best tablet on the market, you just have to think outside the box a little to get full enjoyment out of the device.
Have a nice day!

Just have to +1 on this post.
I'm one of those guys that went for the hype, Honeycomb on the Nook, WOW!
In reality if ALL you do is check your email, view non flash websites, and play Angry Birds, sure its fine. But the nook can really do SO much more and after a while you want it to do more. You're just not going to get that with Honeycomb on the nook.
The ONLY advantage you get is that the UI is very much more "tablet" but theres many fixes out there for that if you decide to run something like CM7.
Anyway though I made the switch and am not looking back, fully functional Youtube (in HQ!), Netflix, Bluetooth, USB, etc, for 200 bucks, you can't beat it.

Thanks for the input. My number one goal for this thread was to game the new thread engine a little- anyone that posts a Nook Honeycomb problem thread should see my PSA.

I am waiting for my nook color to arrive and have been doing some searching around to learn more...this post was very helpful. Thx!

I think saying that CM7 runs perfectly on a Nook Color is a little bold. I have run both and have remained on Honeycomb due to the fact that the battery issues with CM7 were too unacceptable to deal with. I'd end up with an unusable tablet for several hours all the time when the Battery would reach ultra low levels.
There were also many other feature in Honeycomb that just made it more enjoyable (tablet apps section in Market, keyboard just seems to work better, space on homescreens, etc) I also am a fan of the XboxExperts builds which include all the key elements you need in a ROM. That's the way these should be released IMO, just like they would from the store, with everything included. Having to search around for the latest GApps version is just a waste of time.
I realize the battery issue is close, but I don't feel like messing around with nightlies and OCing until it is stable. And it's taking forever and a day it seems to get it there.
Just my 2c.

WWWestonC said:
I think saying that CM7 runs perfectly on a Nook Color is a little bold. I have run both and have remained on Honeycomb due to the fact that the battery issues with CM7 were too unacceptable to deal with. I'd end up with an unusable tablet for several hours all the time when the Battery would reach ultra low levels.
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Um, I don't really know what you are talking about. Early versions of CM7 would eat down a battery, but any recent version will give you MUCH better battery life than Honeycomb thanks to the fact that CM7 has working sleep, and the Honeycomb ROM doesn't (and won't).
tablet apps section in Market
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Yes, but many are made for Tegra which means they won't work on the Nook's Honeycomb ROM. In fact CM7 is better for these tablet programs because you can use Chainfire3D to make the Tegra programs work.
Also we can't run the newest version of Honeycomb (3.1) as easily, which means eventually the app support will dry up as all REAL Honeycomb tablets have had that update available to them for a while or they ship with the 3.1 version.
keyboard just seems to work better
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Both Gingerbread and Honeycomb's keyboards are bested by the free Swiftkey Tablet Beta. I use it on CM7, just like my friend with a Xoom uses it on Honeycomb. Much better styling and function than the defaults.
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Easily replicated in Launcher Pro.
I will admit that there are some things that are nice about Honeycomb that CM7 doesn't have- an orientation lock that works in landcape, a visual task switcher, a cleaner notification system, and a two-pane settings window. No one is saying that Honeycomb overall is inferior. Just our out of date HC ROMs are inferier to real Honeycomb tablets, despite the hard work of those who make them.
CM7 is much more usable overall.
I also am a fan of the XboxExperts builds which include all the key elements you need in a ROM. That's the way these should be released IMO, just like they would from the store, with everything included. Having to search around for the latest GApps version is just a waste of time.
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The nightly and stable CM7 builds lack GAPPS because Google made a deal with the community to not package those binaries into official CM ROMs. Some individuals (like XboxExpert, or phiredrop) ignore this and put out complete ROMs that are separated from official CM7 to avoid getting CM7 into more trouble. If you don't want to hunt GAPPS but you want CM7 use the phiremod ROM.
I realize the battery issue is close but I don't feel like messing around with nightlies and OCing until it is stable. And it's taking forever and a day it seems to get it there.
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It is not up to the Nook Color CM7 developers when new stable releases are put out- that is something that is done all at the same time for all CM roms across supported devices.
Plus the work on CM7 is still happening at a breakneck pace. Recently USB host support was added, as well as superior headphone and speaker controls.
We will get our stable version eventually, but until then the newest CM7 nightlies plus the overclock kernel plus GAPPS is more stable and usable than any Honeycomb ROM we have. And that is a fact...

I use the Divine Honeycomb off the SD card and like it.
Except for battery life.
I have it overclocked to 1.1ghz using setcpu
when screen is off, I have it clocked down to 300mhz.
Battery life is about 2-3hours of normal use and 1-2 days if it's off.
Pretty sad.
Is CM7 much better?

poofyhairguy said:
Thanks for the input. My number one goal for this thread was to game the new thread engine a little- anyone that posts a Nook Honeycomb problem thread should see my PSA.
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I did the same thing over on YouTube:
I just added a link to this thread in the description.

canadiankorean said:
Is CM7 much better?
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Much much better.

Gotta agree with the others on this one. Even with some of the niggles that annoyed me with CM7, I simply wasn't patient enough to deal with Honeycomb on my NC for more than about two hours. Back to CM7 I went.
Hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich will rectify this; knowing Google, they'll probably release that source code first.

BEst Honeycomb EMMC Rom?

I have been looking for a Honeycomb rom for a while now and I can't find one that I can get to boot. All the ones I have tried don't work. I have wiped all partitions, tried wiping all but boot, but have still not found a reliable HC rom. Any help will be appreciated.

Sigh... honeycomb will never work. If you want to know the reason why take a look at the section Why you shouldn't use honeycomb in the link in my sig.
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So far, running Honeycomb or the WIP Ice Cream Sandwich isn't worth it yet for DD.
Honeycomb is a hijacked rom, based on hacked SDK modules, thus being somewhat outdated and buggy, while ICS is a WIP, still lacking a lot of the things a DD OS needs.
If you really want a Tablet-oriented OS for Nook, I suggest you wait until Dalingrin and Fattire finished their work on CM9 ICS for our Nook Color.
But to be honest, just go for CM7 for now, it has a whole bunch of Tablet Tweaks included that will make it act and feel a lot more like Honeycomb / ICS, including the necessary softbuttons you will need.
Furthermore, if you install Nook Tweaks from the Market, then you can increase the power levels on the Speaker and Earphone Plug, increasing the (way too low) volume of the Nook to be acceptable.
Also... there aren't a whole bunch of Tablet-optimized Apps out yet... just check the Android Market with a 3.0+ Device and you will see what I mean...
One way or another, you will be falling back to 2.X Generation Applications, simply because there ain't a 3.0+ Tablet Version of it just yet...
Sorry, that was a somewhat long answer for something that should have been simple... Stick to CM7 for now, you won't regret it.

ICS - what's the biggy?

When I bought the Xoom last year I installed the latest Tiamat rom (now Nandroid' at 2.2.2) and it ran really well, although the limitations of the hardware occasionally reared it's ugly head; I guess tablets can't come close to laptops at the mo now matter what mega ROM is installed.
I'm running Miui on an HTC DHD and it is an AWESOME Rom and nothing at all like vanilla Honeycomb, just on another level. I was hoping that when ICS came out there would be something similar for the Xoom. So I waited like a hungry dog for ICS to land and a stable(ish) build to come out and have now tried both EOS and Kang CM9 and both run well but how are they so vastly different from Vanilla ICS? I do really appreciate all the effort that's gone into getting these roms to us but if they're the same (or similar) in terms of looks, performance, usability etc what's the advantage with ICS over Honeycomb apart from a pretty small performance upgrade? Sure ICS does look a little different but only a bit, nothing drastic.....so can someone who knows more about these things tell me, what's the biggy with ICS?
Perhaps I'm expecting too much here but it seems a lot like the forums just got crazy giddy waiting for ICS to come out so then whipped themselves up into a lather (for maybe no valid reason) and that now the insanely mad push to get ICS working efficiently across the Android universe is more of a case of why man went to the Moon?.....because it's there, not because we needed to.

I think your sort of neglecting the big picture. Your looking at it from the perspective of someone who is already running Honeycomb on your Xoom. I think if you were running a HP Touchpad (for example) with Gingerbread you would be warming up a lot closer to ICS. Not every tablet has honeycomb on it so lets face it you are spoiled by the Xooms OS.
Oh and ICS has some nice features for example I can remove app from the recent app list by dragging it out of the list.

HC was a beta; ICS is a stable release
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what's the advantage with ICS over Honeycomb apart from a pretty small performance upgrade?
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Its not small by any means. The performance increase is night and day.
A lot of the hype in general for ICS is for previous gingerbread users. Its a huge change for them in terms of UI. For honeycomb users, ICS is more like finally getting a stable release of the OS; honeycomb was IMO a beta test. Limited to tablets (which was a pretty small portion of Android users) and very buggy with quite a bit of work that needed to be done. Now we have a full release with some nice new features, proper performance and support for tablets and phones.
As for the custom roms, I'm pretty certain stock ICS Xooms don't have face unlock. The EOS settings are nice as well as built-in overclocking. I'm sure somewhere down the line the ad-hoc support will be sorted out and I remember reading a post by one of the EOS devs that they haven't even begun to work on performance optimization so this ROM could get even faster/smoother/better on battery.

The biggest reason to move is that ICS actually takes advantage of your second (or more) cores more efficiently than HC 3.x ever did.
Gingerbread for the most part, will not utilize a 2nd core at all even if you had one. That 2nd core would sit there idle. AFAIK.
So, ICS on Xoom is a huge boost in performance. You can see this as you use the device. Lag is completely removed from almost all tasks. With EOS Wingray/Stingray, you can even over clock to get even more performance out of the old Tegra 2.

Stability, smoothness in the UI, and overall polish. The browser is also WORLDS better.

+1 on previous comments RE: smoothness, performance. I was able to start playing with official ICS a couple of Thursdays ago when it rolled onto my Xoom as I was introducing myself to my nursing students.
AFAIK, and have tested, read/write to "external" SD card issue is partially fixed from the standpoint of apps directing r/w to the actual name Xoom gives the ext SD... with HC, the only way I could get it working was by using the File Manager for Honeycomb (can't recall the dev's name off the top of my head). Now, as more devs are updating their apps for ICS tablet compatibility, some are making the change and some aren't.
~ BereanPK

anyone knows when the 3g version in europe will get ics?

Well for one thing we won't really see all the benefits of ICS for awhile.
Remember ICS is the attempt to standardize App compatability between Phone and Tablets.
Until more phones get ICS we won't truly see the entire benefit of it.
And it's still relatively new and not fully fleshed out by the community yet.
They are still struggling with getting it up and running on devices (like ours which Team EOS is doing a great job with!)
HC was specifically written for Dual Proc units.
ICS' main goal is to support ANY number of internal procs which is a boon to Single proc devices and future multicore devices.
It also allows consistency of OS so that cheaper android tablets can be made. I can see single proc bargain Tablets on the way soon now that ICS doesn't care how many cores you have!
And the fact that it runs on phones and tablets just means easier coding for App developers because they can write one set of code to work on EVERY android device and have better compatability.
ICS was a very smart move by Google and provided the Manufacturers don't mess it up with bloatware creating problems we are all better off having it!
I don't think ICS has even scratched the surface of what it can do!
HC may be a bit more mature and stable but thats only because it's been in development longer...ICS will get there and more!

SOD solved using TegraOwner rev 170

Hi all,
Just a short post to share my experience with ICS.
I moved from HC (Taboonay 3.0) to ICS and install Re-Flexxx ROM. Beautifull ROM but face quickly my first SOD. Discover wakelock application that help to avoid the SOD by the battery life was shortened.
I try differents bootloader, try to wipe all (data/caches...) try to format partitions, try a lot of different kernels , look through last_kmsg log with the hope to find some root cause but never succeed to solve the SOD issue.
I move then to Taboonay 3.2b4 ROM hoping the SOD was ROM dependant but face the same SOD problem.
I was on the way to revert to HC bootloader but decide to try one more ROM not available on XDA: TegraOwner ROM v170. I'm running this ROM since 2 days and did not face any more SOD.
My 2 cents for thoses in the same situation than my with their A500 tab.
Bye

MY "5" cents worth...
Please, in the future, remember that post's like this belong in the "General" forum.
MD

I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.

evolucja said:
I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.
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If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?

@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.

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And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.

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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.
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OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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Oh no problem man, I'm not sure if 501 has an official forum yet, but most ROMs will work for 501 if they are for a500 just won't have 3g unless they add support for it, a lot of developers here will make versions for it sometimes.
Trust me man, you will want to look into aokp (android open kang project) which is my personal favorite, which is similar to cyanogenmod, and if i am not mistaken aokp uses some of the CM source. Try googling "aoko features" or better yet, maybe find a list of features it has, or better yet watch a in depth review on YouTube... there is so many extra features I can't even begin to start to name them, for one you can change the design and colors of everything in notifications and task bar.. change transition effects in the apps menu and desktop (like nova launcher, except a lot of times it is integrated) change themes, change layouts, toggle which options you want to show in notification menu, to changing small details of how the icons look like, and add or remove options in it... there is performance where you can change governor and CPU speeds, pretty much it goes in depth if customization, say when I want to scroll through desktops it looks like I'm spinning a cube, or other effects.. you can pretty much change the color, design and layout of everything, add music to boot animations and much more, trust me man you may love it, or you may feel that TO ROM is more for you.
Anyways check out some YouTube videos of aokp, you will see what im talking about
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JBT1 said:
Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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Google aokp and go to there website, they have ICS milestone 6 you can flash, you can Google, or YouTube the features, they have ton customization.
I never experienced SOD on it.
daveid said:
Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?
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He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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lifeofcoding said:
OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
lifeofcoding said:
He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.

nifterific said:
I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.
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Nice to see that someone actually knows what he's talking about in this thread lol

This fixed my sleep of death issue completely, it's been three days, totally stable!

@nifterific, you were faster I wanted to write exactly everything you wrote about functions. Great post!
@lifeofcoding, you know, it's all about 3G support. There are so many ROMs for A500, and I'm sure they're really good, but the worst thing for A501 owner is that they don't support internal 3G. Now I think I could count all A501 ICS ROMs using fingers from one hand: Evil Alex which is almost as Acer official, bugged Acer leak 021 and awesome TegraOwners. And when Thor will release JB for A501, then there will be really no alternative. As long as CM10 will not support 3G.