Hi all,
Just a short post to share my experience with ICS.
I moved from HC (Taboonay 3.0) to ICS and install Re-Flexxx ROM. Beautifull ROM but face quickly my first SOD. Discover wakelock application that help to avoid the SOD by the battery life was shortened.
I try differents bootloader, try to wipe all (data/caches...) try to format partitions, try a lot of different kernels , look through last_kmsg log with the hope to find some root cause but never succeed to solve the SOD issue.
I move then to Taboonay 3.2b4 ROM hoping the SOD was ROM dependant but face the same SOD problem.
I was on the way to revert to HC bootloader but decide to try one more ROM not available on XDA: TegraOwner ROM v170. I'm running this ROM since 2 days and did not face any more SOD.
My 2 cents for thoses in the same situation than my with their A500 tab.
Bye
MY "5" cents worth...
Please, in the future, remember that post's like this belong in the "General" forum.
MD
I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.
evolucja said:
I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.
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If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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lifeofcoding said:
If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?
@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.
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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.
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OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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Oh no problem man, I'm not sure if 501 has an official forum yet, but most ROMs will work for 501 if they are for a500 just won't have 3g unless they add support for it, a lot of developers here will make versions for it sometimes.
Trust me man, you will want to look into aokp (android open kang project) which is my personal favorite, which is similar to cyanogenmod, and if i am not mistaken aokp uses some of the CM source. Try googling "aoko features" or better yet, maybe find a list of features it has, or better yet watch a in depth review on YouTube... there is so many extra features I can't even begin to start to name them, for one you can change the design and colors of everything in notifications and task bar.. change transition effects in the apps menu and desktop (like nova launcher, except a lot of times it is integrated) change themes, change layouts, toggle which options you want to show in notification menu, to changing small details of how the icons look like, and add or remove options in it... there is performance where you can change governor and CPU speeds, pretty much it goes in depth if customization, say when I want to scroll through desktops it looks like I'm spinning a cube, or other effects.. you can pretty much change the color, design and layout of everything, add music to boot animations and much more, trust me man you may love it, or you may feel that TO ROM is more for you.
Anyways check out some YouTube videos of aokp, you will see what im talking about
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JBT1 said:
Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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Google aokp and go to there website, they have ICS milestone 6 you can flash, you can Google, or YouTube the features, they have ton customization.
I never experienced SOD on it.
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Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?
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He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
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He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.
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I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.
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Nice to see that someone actually knows what he's talking about in this thread lol
This fixed my sleep of death issue completely, it's been three days, totally stable!
@nifterific, you were faster I wanted to write exactly everything you wrote about functions. Great post!
@lifeofcoding, you know, it's all about 3G support. There are so many ROMs for A500, and I'm sure they're really good, but the worst thing for A501 owner is that they don't support internal 3G. Now I think I could count all A501 ICS ROMs using fingers from one hand: Evil Alex which is almost as Acer official, bugged Acer leak 021 and awesome TegraOwners. And when Thor will release JB for A501, then there will be really no alternative. As long as CM10 will not support 3G.
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Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
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Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
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Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
neidlinger said:
Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
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#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
Don't forget miui, used to hate the ios_esk ui, but there is alot of customizability without having to go through adw or lp. Super smooth super fast. You can change everything from boot ani to fonts/custom lock screen in their there manager.
Use to be a big aosp user, but got a little plain and boring. If I was still on my mt3g I would be using aosp, but with our hardware we can afford a little more eye candy and convenience without performance sacrifice.
I usually rock between evil's vf3 and royal miui. Both get about 2 days of battery life with absolutely no lag
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mightymike889 said:
#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
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AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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The thing is you can replicate the UIs of other phones but you never never perfectly mimic the functionality gained from a specific UI, you cant get certain MIUI features in CM, or get all the integration of Sense into others rom. You can also make you phone look like a Droid, Sony, LG, Sammy, etc... I like MIUI now since it seems to be much quicker than other roms, I've used android since like late 09, and I must say MIUI is so different even though it's android at the core.
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AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
mightymike889 said:
Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
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CM straight from their site
"CyanogenMod is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community."
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Someone correct me if i'm wrong on any of this
Cm was developed to work on most android phones. Most of the AOSP roms that you see in the glacier development section are based off of CM but customized to work better for our phone.
Now looking at other roms for instance take Royal Ginger.
"Is built and compiled from CM7 source code with lots of the CM7 extras and other assorted bloatery removed + a custom kernel & numerous tweaks and optimizations added in. It's sleak, it's mean, and it's fast"
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So it came from CM, lets look at the 2.0 channel log to see exactly what the Developer did to it and then after trying CM if the changes look better it may be worth trying
- entire ROM completely rebuilt and compiled from scratch using latest 2.3.4 CM7 source code. i don't just take in all of the updates/code/commits willy nilly. i check them all out and cherry pick the ones i want .. test some out, decide whether or not to keep them in, etc. (more on that later)
- bundled with my first kernel build: ckisgen-smartass-CM7-v1.0 . this is compiled using a base of zinx's latest CM7 stock source but i've added in the smartass governor (with a little inspiration from dumbfuqs source code, thanks df!) and then tweaked a couple of addt'l settings. i've bumped the default max clock to 1.1ghz. this kernel will overclock to 1.8ghz. i've got LOTS of plans for this in the future. i'm going to be working hard on it. i went with something like this for maximum compatibility with this latest 2.3.4 and all the changes that it's brought about. I def gotta give a big THANKS to FauxMoney for the colorful late night conversations and inspiration to make my own kernel...thanks man.
- FULLY working google Talk with video and audio working BOTH ways (ok maybe not 100% .. switching to rear camera FC's but we're working on that..still really solid)
- moved basically all of the remaining 'extra' CM apps and a couple of others to user storage so that they can be easily removed using the traditional uninstall method via the manage applications menu (settings/applications). i call this one the "E-Z AOSP-ify" update. these apps are:
* terminal
* xda
* DSP manager (this is the new one with the EQ presets .. very nice)
* FM
* ROM Manager
* Spare Parts
* stk
* Swype
* Torch
* YouTube
- TONS and TONS of other stuff .. optimizations everywhere .. GPS, radio, data, ETC!!!!!
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After using CM for a while this may look good so read all the comments to see if anyone was having issues and whether they liked it, was it a battery hog to slow to fast etc. Any new rom will have some minor bugs but if all the new pro's outweigh the couple cons try it.
I also saw that it was on version 2.1, so I read that channel log (I won't post here) to see what fixes or changes were made. Maybe a new theme, kernal, some new app's.
It becomes fun, get involved, learn as you go try new stuff and see what works for you. Always ask if you have a question, everyone around here is really helpful.
I just used Royal Ginger as an example to show you the difference between CM and another AOSP rom that is based of CM
Edit: Also look at the pictures that they add, most everything can be changed but a rom's pics may just look really cool that you just have to try it.
Bottom line, try it all and settle with the one you like. It'll keep you busy and entertained for months
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Hey guys.
Must say for early stages ICS looks pretty sweet. Looking forward to the stable version by Codeworkx and team.
My opinion though is that i still find Gingerbread pretty solid and has all the features i need still. Yes ICS is still in early stages. But there are still few features that i can not leave without just yet. And plus battery life of course is a major issue for me so when kernel sources are released i am sure we shall see an influx of kernels to tackle the problem as it was in the early days of Gingerbread on our gorgeous phones.
Question here is...Do you guys find it worth the jump even on early stages or are you sticking with Gingerbread as it is still stable and you have all the features you can ask for till the gorgeous CM9 gets more stable? Also what would you like from Gingerbread to be on ICS
Thanks
The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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The problem is I've already made the jump much earlier, and it's now unacceptable going back to GB..
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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I also made the jump but something made me come back to GB..I think it is still because the build is still in early stages and bugs and errors occur..Plus having the voodoo app now by Supercurio kinda makes me hold up a bit longer. Yes i know that is not a good enough reason but also battery life is a major one for me...
What i like to know in the new build of CM9 is it as smooth as people say it is when scrolling?
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Well I'm most likely the wrong person to answer that, having come from the original SGS since only the last 2 days. And no, I don't think that it's not a good enough reason to revert to GB for Voodoo LOUDER when I'm actually giving it a fair thought of going back to the SGS1 for Voodoo Sound...
I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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Well cyanogenmod 9 is stable enough for my tastes. And once media is fixed I think it's good enough
New multi tasking is sweet. But there are some nice addition here and there like a new voice system which I'm using now. Or do you mean
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I dont know how to say it but ... ummmm but seriously (not trolling) i love the touch wiz ui
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Don't worry, there are plenty of people like you and me giggling at the various topics of stuttering paid alternative launchers, and buggy custom AOSP roms, but they are mostly silent.
I think its great they are there, because it can lead to new insights, but so far for me stock + TW + a mild Jkay-theme hit the sweet spot for almost everything this phone can do for me.
Opinion its a leaked test rom and not ICS release who knows what will change .
jje
Ive been trying out the cm9 alpha for a while now and am liking it. Got it setup virtually the same as my KK5 daily.
With cm9 I don't need voodoo louder and my a2dp streaming sounds better.
But.....
I could easily go back to KK5 odexed which I have setup the way I like it. Jkay mods, frozen apps, voodoo louder, etc.
I use go launcher ex, go sms pro and poweramp on both so mostly my user interface is the same.
Found since sgs1 that I like the 3rd party apps more than stock. Thats the beauty of android I guess.
Im ok with both as a daily so far.
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One thing just held me back. The video part. After it gets fixed i'll be transfering to cm9
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+1 I watch YouTube vids on a daily basis lol. They have a done a great job with ICS so far though
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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I started using CM9 since the first build, which was very buggy, but its been my daily driver since then and I love it now, stable enough for everyday use (amazing for an alpha) and I already find it better than CM7, I can't go back to GB after updating lol, love the new UI, the only time I ran into a problem was when I wanted to see football highlights last night but can't watch the video =D other that tho I love ICS, can't wait for a full and stable release! Highly recommend it! I found I don't need as many 3rd party apps, don't use widget locker or go launcher or go contacts etc anymore, the only one I use now is go SMS pro.
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Same here. ICS is very good and I urge all to give CM9 a try. Of course we cannot mod, theme etc.. at this stage but to be frank there is no need to. Great sensible UI coupled with a very smooth and snappy scrolling and other animations makes it a perfect ROM for a common user. If you are too much into theming, tweaking etc.. stay away from CM9 at the moment until a stable one comes out.
Not much of a battery drain also. Maybe 10% more than stock GB.
ICS KP8
CM9
No thanks no advantage over what i have at present .
Yes to supposed specs when ICS is actually released .
jje
I tested for 2 days the ICS and I must say that the samsung team it's on the good way. ICS will be a wonderful OS to run on SGS2. They still have a lot of bugs to fix, but there are just leaks. We must wait for some official releases.
At the moment you can use ICS just to explore some of the goodies that will be present in the future for our phones. We will have to keep gingerbread for a while
Personally, I want to see the weather on lockscreen fully implemented in the next builds
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
Personally I don't find ICS the revolutionary change that some people were hyping around. It's an improvement, but not super.
And +1 to the people who mentioned the media part. Once it's fixed I might go to CM9.
And frankly I don't find Trebechet launcher on CM9 smoother than Touchwiz on Gingerboard :/
dzel said:
theres no real ICS for SGS2 right?How could we compare?
we still need to go through 2.3.7 am i right?
No, i find cm7 better than cm9 for now
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I am totally agree with Dzel.
Since ICS alpha(not even beta) version. its no good to compare stable GB version.
Again CM9 is much better than CM7.
I am running cm9 as my daily now as most remaining issues are not so important.
I was before on cm7 with Siyah kernel, and honestly, everything was really running smooth. I do not see any big improvment in ICS, and in that point, I am a litle disapointed.
I will stick to cm9 as ICs is now the developped OS, but I was waiting for more big changes from Google.
A litle bit like diff between OSX 10.3, .4, .5 etc etc. No real big changes.
I've installed Zipnet's ICS on my mytouch 4g and now my phone sometimes reboots by itself. its doing it numerous times. When I turn off screen, and just try to turn back on, the buttons would light up, but the screen is still off. And then after a few moments, it restarts.
Anyone else have this problem?
Thanks
I've had that problem with a lot of older ICS ROMs. Try something newer or at least a newer kernel.
Do you have a recommended ICS Rom that I should look into? I'm currently using Zipnet's v.4.05. Also, for the kernel, do I have to look for one that is specifically used on ICS? or can any kernel do? Sorry I'm still new to these things,
Thanks
andiruleu said:
Do you have a recommended ICS Rom that I should look into? I'm currently using Zipnet's v.4.05. Also, for the kernel, do I have to look for one that is specifically used on ICS? or can any kernel do? Sorry I'm still new to these things,
Thanks
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Kernels are Android version specific. You'll need an ICS kernel. I would hate to recommend a ROM because I don't want to insult any dev's. Also, I don't try them all.
Look for anything released within the last month.
Here is a rundown of some ROM types.
AOSP: Also called "Vanilla." Pure or as close to pure Google source as possible. Not really any extra frills.
AOKP: AOSP plus tweaks and mods. These ROMs will contain the ROM Control app and are very customizable. Includes changable battery icons with ROM Control.
CM9 - Compiled (at some point) from CyanogenMod 9 source. Contains AOSP plus CM tweaks and extras including cpu control and power widget in status bar.
Sense 3.6/4: ICS Sense. 3.6 is a little more bloated than Sense 4, but both are nice. Camera does not work yet, but devs are hard at work on this as usual.
MIUI v4: MIUI allows themes galore as well as backup/restore between versions. Weekly updates.
Some others you might look into are MexDroidMod, Paranoid Android and DianXin.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA
I saw this thread over at the Galaxy Nexus forums, and since I figured more people than just me might want to know more about the different ROMs, I thought it was worrth a thread here as well.
What I'm interested is a quick reference thread for the various Jellybean ROMs. Run by who, what's the aim, etc. Basically a quick reference guide to assist people (like me) decide which ROM fits my needs.
So far, these are the Jellybean builds that I know about for the TF101:
Team EOS 3 Jellybean nightlies
RaymanFX's 4.1.1 AOSP builds
CM10 preview edition
JellyBro (CM10 kang)
AOKP KANG
Let me know if you see anyone missing.
It would be nice for each ROM to have a a post which lists its key features:
Aim of the ROM. Tweaks, Stability, Speed, AOSP-like cleanness, etc
State. In active development, experimental, mature, stable, abondoned, etc.
ROM base, if any. Based on AOSP, AOKP, CM, etc.
Release-type/frequency: Nightly, interval, fixed releases, etc.
Non-stock/AOSP features. Swag, Toggles, Theming, OCing, etc.
Basically enough info to assist making a decision, without aiming for pages and pages of stuff which noone will ever bother to write (or read). See this post for an example of what I'm thinking about.
Feel free to recommend a non-default kernel for the ROM, but the focus should be on what the ROM itself offers out of the box.
Sounds good? Anyone wants to give it a go?
User summaries of the various ROMs.
I'm not guaranteeing that I will be able/willing to include all reviews here. If things get out of hand, I will edit this post to indicate so.
Team EOS 3 Jellybean nightlies:
2012.08.02: josteink
2012.08.02: fone_fanatic
RaymanFX's 4.1.1 AOSP builds:
None
CM10 preview edition:
None
JellyBro (CM10 kang):
None
AOKP KANG:
2012.08.02: K900
I've been meaning to make a thread like this, but I still have yet to find the time.
I read through all the JB threads about a week ago and Team Eos seemed to have the least amount of bugs so I chose it over the other options.
I'll start off by saying I've been using it daily since build #53 [2012-07-24] and I'm currently on build #54.
That said, here's what I've noticed so far:
Speaker volume is a bit low.
When using the HDMI out cable, sound plays via TF101 speakers, not TV speakers.
Video effects (Silly Faces) in Camera cause camera to crash.
GPS doesn't work.
Other than that, it's a very stable rom and working great. Dock functions 100%. Very responsive, stable and fast.
Also I'm using Guevor's JB Kernel 693. I just noticed 696 was released yesterday, so flashing that now .
Feel free to ask any questions about the rom. Maybe some time next week I can flash all the JB kernels out there and put them through their paces .
Note this rom is a GREAT daily driver, unless you really need GPS or use HDMI out very often, I highly recommend it.
I'm also running Team EOS nightlies and I'm very happy with it.
Here's my quick summary:
ROM: Team EOS nightlies
Non-stock/AOSP features.. Notification toggles. Overclocking. (Themes added in build #55?)
Aim...................... Stability
ROM base................. Team EOS
State.................... In active development
Release-type............. Nightly
Build(s) tested.......... 2012.07.23 to current (2012.08.01). With and without dock.
Not working / problems:
Audio generally low. (Seems to be a general JB problem across devices?)
HDMI audio out
Have encountered 2 sleeps of death while using it for around 2 weeks.
Everything else seems to be working.
My only complaint so far is lack of a status-bar battery-widget for the dock, like you have in Megatron (ICS). But I don't think any other of the JB ROMs available has that one either.
Great idea!
Will keep this thread under close observation :good:
CalvinH said:
Great idea!
Will keep this thread under close observation :good:
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If you try any of these ROMs out, feel free to contribute
josteink said:
I'm also running Team EOS nightlies and I'm very happy with it.
Here's my quick summary:
ROM: Team EOS nightlies
Non-stock/AOSP features.. Notification toggles. Overclocking. (Themes added in build #55?)
Aim...................... Stability
ROM base................. Team EOS
State.................... In active development
Release-type............. Nightly
Build(s) tested.......... 2012.07.23 to current (2012.08.01). With and without dock.
Not working / problems:
Audio generally low. (Seems to be a general JB problem across devices?)
HDMI audio out
Have encountered 2 sleeps of death while using it for around 2 weeks.
Everything else seems to be working.
My only complaint so far is lack of a status-bar battery-widget for the dock, like you have in Megatron (ICS). But I don't think any other of the JB ROMs available has that one either.
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Check out Dual Battery Widget from the play store. It has an option for having the dock battery level show in the status bar.
Also I'd like to add I haven't had a single SOD on Team Eos nightlies (been on since #53). But I have had a few reboots, all but 1 have occurred while not using the tablet.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Officialzies for AOKP
Aim of the ROM. Tweaks, Stability, Speed, AOSP-like cleanness, etc
AOKP.
State. In active development, experimental, mature, stable, abondoned, etc.
In development.
ROM base, if any. Based on AOSP, AOKP, CM, etc.
AOKP.
Release-type/frequency: Nightly, interval, fixed releases, etc.
Frequent releases but no fixed timing.
Non-stock/AOSP features. Swag, Toggles, Theming, OCing, etc.
AOKP.
I've tried both AOSP build 3, and CM10 Kang.
I am eagerly awaiting a stable jellybean rom I can daily.
Using RaymanFX's 4.1.1 JB
Hi guys, thought I'd share this info. I'm using RaymanFX's ROM and overall it's running well. My only issue so far is that Google Now crashes right after launching. It was working before I started adding new apps, so I'm guessing there is a conflict with another app. Unfortunately I don't know which one it is. I'm guessing maybe gmail, Google maps, or Google +. I haven't tested the HDMI or used in the dock yet but WiFi and graphics seem good. The ROM itself is extremely lean, no bloat to speak of.
I had to flash the ROM a second time to get it working but it's possible that I goofed it up the first time because it does take a bit to do the initial boot and I was getting impatient and thought it locked up and rebooted.
I'll probably try the EOS ROM next.
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Team EOS nigthly.. Rayman has not updated this one in awhile and has been working on other projects. I'm not sure actually how good CM10 is, but I've run both this and TeamEOS and I changed to a TeamEOS / KAT 1.14 (now) combo and I have never looked back.. TeamEOS has the most fleshed out version of JB in my humble opinion.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
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If just install the rom 0.7 from raymanfx. The first time from me i root my tf101 !
It work great, some small functionnality are missing on the keyboard but it gives a second life to our baby.
Sent from my Transformer(4.2.1 rom 0.7) using xda app-developers app
Yep, I' using 0.7 from Raymanfx also. Its great to have the mutli-user support, but I think it comes with significant overhead and I'm not sure the TF101 can handle this.... still testing and will keep everyone informed.
I believe there are three major JB ROMs development going on as far as I can see. Some JB ROMs have more issue than others, some does not. And we are so grateful for these developers taking time and giving us these ROMs. and we should encourage them more, so please donate and say THANK YOU.:good:
and now, I am dead curious who's using which JB ROMs and their feedback, what they run into, issues, suggestions etc.
if anyone gives their feedback here, this would be wonderful for average users who's looking around and trying to figure out each of these JB ROMs.
Looking forward your valuable responses!
XDA Developer Toldo's
[ROM][ICS] JellyBeanRom ICS v5 [P7500][P7510][29.08.2012]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813651
XDA Developer MapleSyrup's - AOSP
[ROM][JB][AOSP][ALPHA] Android 4.1.1 - Jelly Bean - [GT-P7510][SCH-I905]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765254
XDA Developer MapleSyrup's - CM10
[ROM][JB][CM10] Android 4.1.1 - CyanogenMod 10 Preview
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787399
jazzespresso said:
I believe there are three major JB ROMs development going on as far as I can see. Some JB ROMs have more issue than others, some does not. And we are so grateful for these developers taking time and giving us these ROMs. and we should encourage them more, so please donate and say THANK YOU.:good:
and now, I am dead curious who's using which JB ROMs and their feedback, what they run into, issues, suggestions etc.
if anyone gives their feedback here, this would be wonderful for average users who's looking around and trying to figure out each of these JB ROMs.
Looking forward your valuable responses!
XDA Developer Toldo's
[ROM][ICS] JellyBeanRom ICS v5 [P7500][P7510][29.08.2012]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813651
XDA Developer MapleSyrup's - AOSP
[ROM][JB][AOSP][ALPHA] Android 4.1.1 - Jelly Bean - [GT-P7510][SCH-I905]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765254
XDA Developer MapleSyrup's - CM10
[ROM][JB][CM10] Android 4.1.1 - CyanogenMod 10 Preview
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787399
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First of all, the first link is an ICS ROM not JellyBean.
With that out of the way, both CM10 and AOSP are running the same kernel so you will not see much difference in performance. CM10 with have more features then AOSP will have because AOSP is a "pure" experience from Google source.
It depends on your preference but I like CM10.
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First of all, the first link is an ICS ROM not JellyBean.
With that out of the way, both CM10 and AOSP are running the same kernel so you will not see much difference in performance. CM10 with have more features then AOSP will have because AOSP is a "pure" experience from Google source.
It depends on your preference but I like CM10.
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Ooops..I thought I copied correct URL
they are talking about working camera and not working camera...I am a bit confused with that which one is which one...
Rear camera working and front one not working I believe
jazzespresso said:
Ooops..I thought I copied correct URL
they are talking about working camera and not working camera...I am a bit confused with that which one is which one...
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Rear Camera works at the moment for AOSP and CM10. That is why I said the kernel is the same. Right now, pershoot is working on getting CM9 to RC status and then will be working on fixing the front camera and other fixes.
Full charged to dead
nakedninja42 said:
Rear Camera works at the moment for AOSP and CM10. That is why I said the kernel is the same. Right now, pershoot is working on getting CM9 to RC status and then will be working on fixing the front camera and other fixes.
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I'm using CM10 and facing problem like original 3.1 ROM that I let it charging over night and the tab dead could not re-star again .I have to open the back cover removed the batteries socket and put it back and can star again ,is happened to me 3 times .
And other problem is Google play not working properly many time I put the install button but it not response .Almost other works perfect.
I'm using CM 10 and have been for about a week now.
Very nice!
My thanks to all the geniuses that made that possible!
I am, however, considering replacing it with a ROM that allows Flash. Unless I can find a way to get Flash working. Amazon Instant Video runs on Flash, which makes me wonder what they are going to do when the Fire upgrades to JB...
I don't use the tablet much, as my GNexus (also running CM10) does all I really need to do, but I do use it for videos and games.
Can I get any recommendations on whether I should switch to something like Galaxy Task, or just go back to ICS?
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I'm using CM 10 and have been for about a week now.
Very nice!
My thanks to all the geniuses that made that possible!
I am, however, considering replacing it with a ROM that allows Flash. Unless I can find a way to get Flash working. Amazon Instant Video runs on Flash, which makes me wonder what they are going to do when the Fire upgrades to JB...
I don't use the tablet much, as my GNexus (also running CM10) does all I really need to do, but I do use it for videos and games.
Can I get any recommendations on whether I should switch to something like Galaxy Task, or just go back to ICS?
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I downloaded Flash directly from Adobe's site as they pulled out from Play store. I was looking for it, and then read couple of posts, and they said download it directly from adobe. I am attaching Flash apk file here that worked for AOSP ROM that I have on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi (GT-P7510). It is a bit laggy, but it works. Chrome browser has some issue with it too, in fact on Google Nexus 7 has the same thing, so believe it is generic Google JB thingy.
I flashed with AOSP ROM on my galaxy tab (GT-P7510 wifi), and have been using for several days. I was planing to go back to original stick ICS (USA), but decided to not to because it made my galaxy tab (GT-P7510 wifi) very fast, and buttery smooth! it is almost feel like I got 'new' tablet. Even my wife, when she picked my tablet first time after I flashed, said Wow what did you do!? (she has new iPad!). Anyway, so far did not notice any issue (other than we all know front cam does not work), but again I have not done any heavy testing or heavy games yet on it.
I picked AOSP ROM over CM10, because I like pure Google JB experience (like my new Google Nexus 7!). I am closely monitoring the developer threads for any new update. I know they demonstrated working front cam, but it seems like it breaks other part, so I am sure it will be get fixed soon
I've been using CM10 since MapleSyrup started it and continued with pershoot taking over. I really like how nicely it works and the good outweighs the few times for the wifi dropping out or the sod after charging. pretty easy/fast to just reboot so it doesn't matter too much.
plasticsoldier said:
I've been using CM10 since MapleSyrup started it and continued with pershoot taking over. I really like how nicely it works and the good outweighs the few times for the wifi dropping out or the sod after charging. pretty easy/fast to just reboot so it doesn't matter too much.
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Well, I have HP Touchpad with WebOS and Android CM9 installed. Even if there are several issues on TouchPad using CM9, I can still live with it, after all I switch from WebOS to Android to play some games, so considering simple reboot or turn on airplane mode on and off to fix Wifi dropping issue is not really deal breaker for me. It is the JB's smoothness and how fast it is what really attracts me the most.