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I have a BELL DZ which I unlocked, rooted and did s-off. I then flashed it with Paul O'briens sense ROM but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Looking through the development section I notice that pretty much every thread gives very basic instructions on how to flash the ROM but some really make it difficult for a n00b such as myself to understand.
What is de-odexed and what does it do? What is zip-aligned? Many of the ROMs don't say if they are for G2 or DZ. Some of the threads are 200+ pages and it's impossible to find out if there are issues with the ROM quickly and easily.
All I want is to have the following:
-Overlocked to 1.4ghz (or near)
-Wake via trackpad button
-no normal functions broke (wifi, data etc.)
-Sense
-Bloatware removed
-No issues with battery life
Am I better with a stock ROM? Is there a way to get the OC and trackpad button thing without flashing a custom ROM?
alright i am here to help sir. while i do have a tmobile g2, the phone is exactly the same and i believe that the roms work for either phone.
1. if you are going to go with a sense rom, i would HIGHLY suggest going with Virtuous ROM. it is a combined effort with the wonderful devs of rmk and eViL D. the updates and patches are always coming, and the rom is nearly perfect. the thread is awesome and your answer is almost always going to be answered. one of the more favorite things about this is the kernel choices that is offered through rom manager and is always up to date with an update, or patches. there are 5 kerne choices that one allows up to 1.501 GHZ. if there is a problem with the rom there WILL be a fix for it.
2. and of course there is cyanogen. i do in fact love stock android, but i stick with the ROM above because i am really digging sense and all of its goodies. cyanogen has limitless possibilities with custimzations and stuff to make it your own. and always have the options of flashing tons of themes and stuff from people who make them, where there is zero themes going for the virtuous roms.
and to repsond to your waking with trackpad and such, there isnt a way to maintain that with just stock. you would have to flash the cyanogen bacon bits that allows it(i believe) which can be found in ROM manager and is easily flashable. either way you cannot go wrong with whatever you choose, but its all about what you prefer.
Another recommendation for a Virtuous sense rom. I'm running the 8.1 currently...it satisfies all the requirements on your list.
Thanks guys, going to look into the virtuous ROM. Would it be recommended to wipe my phone to go with the Virtuous ROM?
Are you using Rom Manager to do this?
Stealth1985 said:
Thanks guys, going to look into the virtuous ROM. Would it be recommended to wipe my phone to go with the Virtuous ROM?
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Yes everytime you switch from one ROM to another you must do a full wipe (data,cache,dalvik) in order to avoid any issues.
Any of the custom ROMs should work fine on both the G2 and the DZ (unless the thread on the ROM specifically says otherwise), after all they are the same phone. The keyboard mapping is the only real different you'd notice, so this might need tweaking of the ROM doesn't automatically handle it.
As I understand it, apps that have been de-odexed, have effectively been put back in one piece so they can be more easily modified by the developer. Normally the apps are odexed, and have had some extra optimisation done to them which makes them hard to modify.
Zip-aligned is supposed to save RAM, I think ?
I for one am another upvote for Virtuous 8.1 Smooth as silk.
Rom manager will not work on my g2.I always get the red triangle. And have to pull the battery. How can I just start over.by the way I am rooted well I believe so.
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I'd definitely recommend wiping. You can always back up your current ROM and everything else, so no worries.
Another +1 for Virtuous. Cyanogen was awesome and very fast, but Virtuous is as well. I can't get away from the social phonebooks either and the HTC Sense Facebook and Twitter integration is phenomenal. I thought I'd ditch it without looking back but I was sadly mistaken.
Virtuous wasn't slower as I expected either. It's very fast and very stable. I usually run around 1-1.2GHz with the conservative setting in SetCPU with only a couple profiles, mainly just one for things to cool down when the screen is locked. Works great and my battery is loving it too.
I've heard that none of the current ROMs support 4G. Is this true? ...and if so how much speed decrease do you guys notice?
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Rom manager will not work on my g2.I always get the red triangle. And have to pull the battery. How can I just start over.by the way I am rooted well I believe so.
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Flash the clockwork recovery TWICE. That did it for me
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I've heard that none of the current ROMs support 4G. Is this true? ...and if so how much speed decrease do you guys notice?
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I'm getting HSPA+ speeds on CM6 so we definitely do
Hello all im currently looking for a rom for my dinc that doesn't have the sense ui... Wich one the most popular.l?
Your looking for Android Open Source Project, or AOSP ROMs, I'd say Cyanogen Mod is the most popular, current version is CM7 RC1, which is Android 2.3. There's Skyraider Athena and a couple others. If your looking for something like an iPhone go for MIUI. Its all your choice.
Sent from God, who uses CM7 RC1.
Yep, my top choice would be CM7-RC1.5, then CM6.1, MIUI, and the rest I've sorta lumped into a big group- but there are a lot of really great AOSP ROM's.
I agree about miui an d cm 6.1-7
Very stable, amazing battery life.
And ironically my first reboot was writing this as I write it is stable lol. nonetheless, I recommend cm, but miui is nice too.
I'm using incredikernal beta and am on like, 58 hours off the charger with my 3500 seidio at 45%.
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Let me ask you this... whichever rom I decide to choose, will I still have access to my Verizon backup assistant and Verizon exclusive apps like nfl mobile?
I'm currently running Sense(less) rEVOlution 2.0 (its not AOSP) along with
2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010-plus25v. So far I love it. Fast Stable and great battery.
I actually like the senseless ones better than aosp since they keep a bunch of really nice sense stuff while eliminating most of the bloat. Both skyraider athena and senseless revolution (which I also use and love) fall into that category. If you look in the dinc development forum, somebody just posted a nice comprehensive list of the available roms arranged by type. It'd be a great place to start.
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Ok im going to sound real amatureish here i rooted my dinc and used the vitorus rom that is basically stock without the bloatware... That being said i need to know what AOSP means. Also i need to know do i install the kernell seperate from the rom itself or is the kernel included and i just have to find the right one.
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Ok im going to sound real amatureish here i rooted my dinc and used the vitorus rom that is basically stock without the bloatware... That being said i need to know what AOSP means. Also i need to know do i install the kernell seperate from the rom itself or is the kernel included and i just have to find the right one.
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AOSP basically just means it doesn't have sense, a lot of them are generally buggy but you'll find a few that are very nice to have on your phone.
They all have different looks, so I'd suggest you just checking out each one and seeing for yourself.
MIUI has sort of an iPhone look and feel to it.
I wrote up a list of ROM's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
So just check down the list to see how different ones look. Of course many of those also have additonal modifications that you can put on that will further change how things look (changing notification bar color, etc)
> Flashing a Kernel you can do just like flashing a ROM. Every ROM (at least that I know of) comes with a kernel when you flash it. However you'll find that there's a few Kernels that give superior battery life and performance than others.
I decided to try skyraider Athena 1.2 has anyone noticed you aren't able to sync your contacts with Facebook?
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Theteflondon said:
Hello all im currently looking for a rom for my dinc that doesn't have the sense ui... Wich one the most popular.l?
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Check out this post with a link of the most active ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
So I really liked the skyraider Athena rom but it really annoyed me that I couldn't sync my contacts with Facebook so I I decided to try miui and I love it what an awesome rom!
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So now that I have chosen my rom, where do I start to search for the best kernel for battery life.
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So now that I have chosen my rom, where do I start to search for the best kernel for battery life.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953263
Check there. I was using chads .37 kernel and getting awesome battery life, it also has quick charge.
I'm still running Fresh 3.5.0.1 I believe... I've tried the latest 2.3 Fresh Rom, but it's missing features I like, such as the pulldown notification bar toggles, and some other things. Also, there's no custom kernel yet based on the gingerbread kernel. Battery life isn't as good compared to using net's kernels.
Once HTC releases the kernel source then Im sure all the custom kernel development will make an appearance. I don't know about using 2.2 though its lacking some much needed gb features. I can live without the pulldown toggles I actually HATE them lol.
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Once HTC releases the kernel source then Im sure all the custom kernel development will make an appearance. I don't know about using 2.2 though its lacking some much needed gb features. I can live without the pulldown toggles I actually HATE them lol.
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Yeah, I know we have to wait for HTC to release the source.
As far as GB vs FroYo... There aren't many features that I think FroYo is lacking... If I were running AOSP 2.2, the text selection / copy paste would be missing, but that's about it. Since I using Sense, the text selection is already good. It seems that much of the hype around GB is visual... The screen off animation, overscroll glow, darker theme, etc.
I'm not denying that there are tons of under the hood improvements; there are. But in real world usage, I get the same (if not better performance) on 2.2 as of right now. I'm just waiting on the kernels to make the jump.
Side note: Is netarchy the only Sense kernel? It seems that I can name several AOSP kernels off the top of my head (godmode, tiamat, savaged zen) but only one sense kernel.
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Side note: Is netarchy the only Sense kernel? It seems that I can name several AOSP kernels off the top of my head (godmode, tiamat, savaged zen) but only one sense kernel.
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I didn't use to be but anymore I think it's all that's left for Sense, yes.
Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
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Ok ive been doing all this rooting and customization for about 3 months now and i have what i think is a big noob Question!
Q. What is the purpuse of other roms, other then stock or cyanogen?
-Do they offer different things that i dont know about, i mean i know some allow you to get netflix and better batterylife but isnt the batterylife thing really lie in the kernel?
But other then that why get a different Rom if im going to customize it the same way i have now?
And im totally sorry if this sounds dumb...still trying to really get into all this modding thing.
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Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
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Well you bring an interesting spin on a simple thought. With all the options out there you can make a Sense ROM look AOSP or make a AOSP ROM look like sense... 8
Some of the ROMs are just personal preference. I use Cyanogen(mod) because that is what i've used for my entire "android life", it's what i know, it's what i like. I know what going to be included, i know where to find stuff... . I know eViL Dee has some follower in the same case, as well as TeamRoyal. It's a comfort level i guess. I mean with so many Sense Based ROMs, so many AOSP ROMs and some other, it's all about minor tweaks. Like Cyanogen(mod) and Faux123 both offer amazing AOSP ROMs. But Faux is a little more "pure" when it comes from an AOSP end point.
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#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
Don't forget miui, used to hate the ios_esk ui, but there is alot of customizability without having to go through adw or lp. Super smooth super fast. You can change everything from boot ani to fonts/custom lock screen in their there manager.
Use to be a big aosp user, but got a little plain and boring. If I was still on my mt3g I would be using aosp, but with our hardware we can afford a little more eye candy and convenience without performance sacrifice.
I usually rock between evil's vf3 and royal miui. Both get about 2 days of battery life with absolutely no lag
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mightymike889 said:
#1 what is AOSP lol
#2 so really the other roms are the same thing with sort of a different look but in reality you can basically achieve that look by modding it ..
#3 so there really isnt a difference in roms is basically wat your saying..
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AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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The thing is you can replicate the UIs of other phones but you never never perfectly mimic the functionality gained from a specific UI, you cant get certain MIUI features in CM, or get all the integration of Sense into others rom. You can also make you phone look like a Droid, Sony, LG, Sammy, etc... I like MIUI now since it seems to be much quicker than other roms, I've used android since like late 09, and I must say MIUI is so different even though it's android at the core.
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AOSP: android open source project. More of pure vanilla android without all the extra framework and great for performance. I've gotten up to 3500 in quadrant score on aosp and 3 days of battery life.
Sense roms: built off htc sense framework. Tons of pretty interactive widgets but sacrifice battery and performance. Your stock mt4g came with sense stuff like facebook and weather clock animated widgets. And yes you can get sense looking widgets in an aosp, but htc offers much more than you can find on the market.
Miui: kind of like ios meets android. Not everybody likes it,
You can technically make any rom type look like any other rom type. But in the core and functionality, they are world apart
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Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
mightymike889 said:
Hmm ok ...so wat about cm...isnt that Rly aosp Or no
Mytouch 4G, cyg 7.02
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CM straight from their site
"CyanogenMod is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community."
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Someone correct me if i'm wrong on any of this
Cm was developed to work on most android phones. Most of the AOSP roms that you see in the glacier development section are based off of CM but customized to work better for our phone.
Now looking at other roms for instance take Royal Ginger.
"Is built and compiled from CM7 source code with lots of the CM7 extras and other assorted bloatery removed + a custom kernel & numerous tweaks and optimizations added in. It's sleak, it's mean, and it's fast"
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So it came from CM, lets look at the 2.0 channel log to see exactly what the Developer did to it and then after trying CM if the changes look better it may be worth trying
- entire ROM completely rebuilt and compiled from scratch using latest 2.3.4 CM7 source code. i don't just take in all of the updates/code/commits willy nilly. i check them all out and cherry pick the ones i want .. test some out, decide whether or not to keep them in, etc. (more on that later)
- bundled with my first kernel build: ckisgen-smartass-CM7-v1.0 . this is compiled using a base of zinx's latest CM7 stock source but i've added in the smartass governor (with a little inspiration from dumbfuqs source code, thanks df!) and then tweaked a couple of addt'l settings. i've bumped the default max clock to 1.1ghz. this kernel will overclock to 1.8ghz. i've got LOTS of plans for this in the future. i'm going to be working hard on it. i went with something like this for maximum compatibility with this latest 2.3.4 and all the changes that it's brought about. I def gotta give a big THANKS to FauxMoney for the colorful late night conversations and inspiration to make my own kernel...thanks man.
- FULLY working google Talk with video and audio working BOTH ways (ok maybe not 100% .. switching to rear camera FC's but we're working on that..still really solid)
- moved basically all of the remaining 'extra' CM apps and a couple of others to user storage so that they can be easily removed using the traditional uninstall method via the manage applications menu (settings/applications). i call this one the "E-Z AOSP-ify" update. these apps are:
* terminal
* xda
* DSP manager (this is the new one with the EQ presets .. very nice)
* FM
* ROM Manager
* Spare Parts
* stk
* Swype
* Torch
* YouTube
- TONS and TONS of other stuff .. optimizations everywhere .. GPS, radio, data, ETC!!!!!
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After using CM for a while this may look good so read all the comments to see if anyone was having issues and whether they liked it, was it a battery hog to slow to fast etc. Any new rom will have some minor bugs but if all the new pro's outweigh the couple cons try it.
I also saw that it was on version 2.1, so I read that channel log (I won't post here) to see what fixes or changes were made. Maybe a new theme, kernal, some new app's.
It becomes fun, get involved, learn as you go try new stuff and see what works for you. Always ask if you have a question, everyone around here is really helpful.
I just used Royal Ginger as an example to show you the difference between CM and another AOSP rom that is based of CM
Edit: Also look at the pictures that they add, most everything can be changed but a rom's pics may just look really cool that you just have to try it.
Bottom line, try it all and settle with the one you like. It'll keep you busy and entertained for months
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Hi all,
Just a short post to share my experience with ICS.
I moved from HC (Taboonay 3.0) to ICS and install Re-Flexxx ROM. Beautifull ROM but face quickly my first SOD. Discover wakelock application that help to avoid the SOD by the battery life was shortened.
I try differents bootloader, try to wipe all (data/caches...) try to format partitions, try a lot of different kernels , look through last_kmsg log with the hope to find some root cause but never succeed to solve the SOD issue.
I move then to Taboonay 3.2b4 ROM hoping the SOD was ROM dependant but face the same SOD problem.
I was on the way to revert to HC bootloader but decide to try one more ROM not available on XDA: TegraOwner ROM v170. I'm running this ROM since 2 days and did not face any more SOD.
My 2 cents for thoses in the same situation than my with their A500 tab.
Bye
MY "5" cents worth...
Please, in the future, remember that post's like this belong in the "General" forum.
MD
I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.
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I can confirm that TegraOwnera ROM rocks. Gave it a try yesterday and immediately forgot about any Acer update matter. In a couple of days(maybe hours) they'll release JB which i think will be as good as ICS.
So I advice you all forgotting about official update and install ICS mod which is even better than the official would ever be.
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If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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If you think that's good, run aokp ICS or jb, or even cyanogenmod they are the biggest and best out there, and there ROMs come with some many extra features to where you can customize literally just about any detail, from colors to layout design, to integrated settings with features like nova launcher. (Controlling animation effects, changing my desktop to look like a cube went switching desktops, and more)
If you have not ran aokp, or cyanogenmod ICS then no wonder you think tegraowners is the best
Acer stock, is well stock.
tegraowners is tweaked.
aok/cm is tweaked, and have sh** tons more features, like changing themes, changing design, CPU control, UI control, ect...
Maybe tegraowners ROM could be as good if they had a team of hundred programmers with the goal of improving android, and adding additional features.
That's why those ROMs are better than tegraowners will ever be, anyone who has tried cm/aokp can tell you.
By the way the jellybean ROM here is a lot better than ICS,.... not just as good.
And by the way there is already a 99% working cyanogenmod 10 jelly bean ROM here, it just doesn't have all the features cyanogenmod usually have integrated with it yet. Reason people don't like tegraowners is because he keeps his source closed, why hide something if you have nothing to hide? People worry that in his code he can be tracking every little thing you do, even everything you type. Not saying he does, we just don't know that he doesn't, because its closed source. Either way aokp or cyanogenmod are the best ROMs out there with tons of features tegraowners does not have. That's why if you Google it those roms are the biggest and best.
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Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?
@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.
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I've yet to run AOKP (I'm a bit of a cyanogenmod fanboy) but the TO rom is CM9 based.
Simply put, lifeofcoding doesn't know what he's talking about. The TO rom isn't tweaked, it was built from the ground up WAY before there was any official ICS, then it was merged with CM9 sources.
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OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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@lifeofcoding, whops, i thought this thread is about A501 roms, where tegraowners is actually the best one available. And i dont really understand what features do aokp or other roms have that TO doesnt.
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Oh no problem man, I'm not sure if 501 has an official forum yet, but most ROMs will work for 501 if they are for a500 just won't have 3g unless they add support for it, a lot of developers here will make versions for it sometimes.
Trust me man, you will want to look into aokp (android open kang project) which is my personal favorite, which is similar to cyanogenmod, and if i am not mistaken aokp uses some of the CM source. Try googling "aoko features" or better yet, maybe find a list of features it has, or better yet watch a in depth review on YouTube... there is so many extra features I can't even begin to start to name them, for one you can change the design and colors of everything in notifications and task bar.. change transition effects in the apps menu and desktop (like nova launcher, except a lot of times it is integrated) change themes, change layouts, toggle which options you want to show in notification menu, to changing small details of how the icons look like, and add or remove options in it... there is performance where you can change governor and CPU speeds, pretty much it goes in depth if customization, say when I want to scroll through desktops it looks like I'm spinning a cube, or other effects.. you can pretty much change the color, design and layout of everything, add music to boot animations and much more, trust me man you may love it, or you may feel that TO ROM is more for you.
Anyways check out some YouTube videos of aokp, you will see what im talking about
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JBT1 said:
Thanks for sharing your experience. I will give those ROM a try after my vacation, I need in the meantime a stable ROM. What about SOD (witch is my main concern) with those aokp Roms?
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Google aokp and go to there website, they have ICS milestone 6 you can flash, you can Google, or YouTube the features, they have ton customization.
I never experienced SOD on it.
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Tegraowners is just a CM9 Kang, so saying CM9 has more anything is just bad information... just saying... btw, why didn't MD lock this thread or move it?
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He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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OK so TO does not have a tweaked kernel? Not tweaked for over clocked, or faster benchmark? Thought so.
I know what I'm talking about trust me, I am a programmer for a living.
Oh, he built it from the grown up before there was official ICS?
He didn't just start creating his own original clone of ICS...
ICS was leaked online before the official release, so just like every developer here, they got ahold of the leaked ICS which gave the community lots of ICS roms before Acer even official released it.
He customized heavily, and yes some of it is his original code, but it is based on the ICS leak originally... so do some research, educate yourself.
He also maybe using the cyanogen device tree, but does not have there features, not all of them anyways.
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I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
lifeofcoding said:
He may use some of the CM9 source, but he does not have all there features, at least the latest TO ROM I ran did not.
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If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.
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I have v170 on my tablet right now, so let me clear some things up for you about what features it does and doesn't have. What it does have? All of the CM9 features, every last one. All of the home screen animations (cube, stack, etc), all of the drawer options (fade side pages, transitions, merge with widgets, etc), all of the theme and lock screen options, all of the system options (top status bar, inverted status bar, power widgets, quick launches), hell it even has the dock options in case you decide to run a launcher that isn't trebuchet. Its CM9, I don't know why you would think it doesn't. He even uses the CM9 boot animation and in settings, clear as day "CyanogenMod version" and "Tegraowners ICS ROM v170 (thor & digetx)".
As for the Acer ICS leak, the Tegraowners rom was on v96 when the leak came out, all that wasn't working was the camera. It was 100% built from the ground up. I don't give a damn if you're a programmer or not, that doesn't change that thor had built a 99% functional ICS before we got the leak. If thor had the leak from v1 like you're trying to claim, he wouldn't have had "waiting on Acer ICS HAL" next to camera on the to do list until after v96, he would have straight up had working camera. He didn't modify the leak or stock rom, he built from source. AOSP. Android Open Source Project. It is possible to build it from scratch you know.
And his kernel isn't tweaked either, just like his entire rom, he made it from scratch. Its not a tweaked Acer kernel, its his own. Thats why his work isn't allowed to be linked to here, he won't share what he built. Don't tell me to educate myself when you don't know a damn thing about thors CM9, a rom people have been running longer than the Acer leak existed.
If you're a programmer for a living, I would expect you to have a better handle on the English language than this. Just saying.
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Nice to see that someone actually knows what he's talking about in this thread lol
This fixed my sleep of death issue completely, it's been three days, totally stable!
@nifterific, you were faster I wanted to write exactly everything you wrote about functions. Great post!
@lifeofcoding, you know, it's all about 3G support. There are so many ROMs for A500, and I'm sure they're really good, but the worst thing for A501 owner is that they don't support internal 3G. Now I think I could count all A501 ICS ROMs using fingers from one hand: Evil Alex which is almost as Acer official, bugged Acer leak 021 and awesome TegraOwners. And when Thor will release JB for A501, then there will be really no alternative. As long as CM10 will not support 3G.