Database Users

My Experience Thus Far

Just got my shift today, and so far I'm head over heels with it I know I can't give a legitimate review until I've had it for at least a few weeks, so I'll make sure to pop back in after I've had it for a bit. The only complain I have at this point is the volume button placement; I've been accidentally tapping it as I close the slider. I have found a solution though! Get in the habit of placing your thumb a bit more to the right while using the keybboard, OR moving one or both of your thumbs to the top and bottom of your phone before closing the slider.
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Glad to hear you're liking it so far! I've had mine for two days now and I'm proud to say I'm also head over heels.
I didn't think I'd be able to stand running Sense again, but it really flies on this phone. Volume placement doesn't bother me. Only thing that does is bloatware (man HTC really put a lot on this one!) Most of that is already gone, however.

I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
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Nmott93 said:
I was looking around and it seems like there is no permanent root yet. Did you temp root and remove the bloatware? What are the downside to temp rooting over per rooting?
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Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.

Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
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Nmott93 said:
Sorry for the stupid questions, but what exactly is a ROM? I'm still pretty new to the whole Android scene ;( S-off and Fastboot Commands as well
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Think of a rom as a modified, sometimes heavily, version of the phone's operating system.
You'll see AOSP roms, that's Android the way Google meant it to be.
Sense roms, modified versions of HTC's releases.
I would give you a few great links but I'm on phone at the moment. I'll get them to ya a little later.

Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
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Yes I did.
The only downside I see is use of what root users deem necessary apps doesn't stick on reboot. Well, that and the obvious lack of rom selection.
S-Off is just a whole different game. I'm used to using fastboot commands, etc.
We'll see permaroot before too long and I'm sure we'll have great rom and theme selection after that.
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geekdaddy said:
Haven't temp-rooted my shift because I thought I read that any bloatware you remove will come-back after re-boot. Can you comment?
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I've seen reports of both.
Everything that I have removed has stayed gone. I haven't rebooted, but my phone has dies, so that's essentially the same thing.

I'm waiting for perm root and some healthy ROM development before I go back to the Shift. I thought thse things were like roted within 2 weeks of thier release though?

@Nmott93 - I've gathered a small collection of links to better guide you through your questions than I myself can in words.
You'll notice most users in these forums are extremely helpful. I think the biggest pet peeve is when people ask questions that are all ready answered in the op. Don't worry about them though!
Permanent Root or Temporary. Which is for you?
Custom ROMs for Android Explained: Why you want them.
What S-Off Is and How To Gain It - Doesn't apply to our phones, yet, but great read.
AOSP: Android Open Source Project - Home Site, lots of information.
Cyanogen(mod) - The most popular non-stock rom on any phone that I've had, still, not for everyone.
I hope that these links are informational for you, and I've got plenty more saved away if you want anything else!

Jeez, thanks! I'll start reading through these when I get to work
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Dissapointed by the vibrant

I have had the vibrant for a couple of months now, and I must say I am very dissapointed.
I had the chance to try my friends' evo and another friends mytouch 4g and I must say these phones are about 10 times better rhan the vibrant...
No lag, gps works amazingly fast and accurate 9.8 ft accurancy indoors on the evo with 8 sats locked. These phones just work right out of the box. The vibrant is a hyped up phone with very little usability because most times I need something really quick the phone decides to crawl and doesn't respond. Build quality is also better on the mentioned phones. Even my other friends htc aria performs faster and better in every aspect and that on 2.1...
Hopefully someone will solve these issues at some point cause it seems to me it is all software related cause on the spec sheet the vibrant looks to be a great device but in real life it is just a lot of frustration...
This is definitely my last Samsung phone and as soon as I get my hands on a used mytouch 4g I will gladly get rid of the vibrant.
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Just root it go crazy oh baby oh baby .

Root it
Flash voodoo kernel/custom rom
quit whining.

You don't like your Vibrant, great. Leave the forum and stop complaining about it. You can sell it, smash it, trade it, whatever. We don't care. The majority of us are happy with the Vibrant.

Now lets be nice. We havent a reason to be rude. He is unhappy and has a right to be. We dont have to respond to the thread.
I am for one happy with my phone. Gps works! awesome software by teamwhiskey!
Great glasstopia them by mwbehr. Fantastic kernel by the man himself eugene373.
I already learned I dont need samsungs support. Maybe we can help him learn that also.

Well what a friendly community this is...
I felt like venting because using this phone is frustrating. I posted in the general section so if that was wrong let the mods take care of it but don't act like an idiot.
My vibrant is rooted and on official ka6. Rooting has nothing to do with the performance of the device.
Besides a phone should work the right way out of the box without any modification. If you say you are happy then good for you, but you might want to try using other phones and you will clearly see the difference...
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I didnt mean to come off rude, I was giving you the solution man.
I have MANY phones. Rooting doesnt help the performance... but apps that need root access do. And yes, voodoo (converting the file system to EXT 4) WILL fix your complaint.

Hazzard99 thank you for the reply. You are absolutely right and that is why I said it must all be software related since the hardware seems like it is supposed to beat pretty much any device out there.
I am fine with rooting and I did it, I just do not feel comfortable to flash any custom firmware yet...
I am more frustrated with samsung than anything else. I think android is the future definitely and it is growing daily... but Samsung lost me as a customer, that is for sure.
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XPLANE9 said:
You don't like your Vibrant, great. Leave the forum and stop complaining about it. You can sell it, smash it, trade it, whatever. We don't care. The majority of us are happy with the Vibrant.
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I'm sorry, aren't a ton of the threads in this forum dedicated to people's complaints with sammy/tmo/vibrant? Not a whole lot of us are satisfied with the Vibrant stock. Maybe we can educate him just how simple it is to root this device and put it's fantastic hardware to use.
Can you imagine what we'd miss out on if Sombionix or Eugene were basically told to piss off when they first picked up an Android phone and wanted it to do more?
Cut the guy some slack is all I'm sayin.
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Tjbunch1228 thanks for your understanding.
I will be flashing a custom rom and kernel but I think before that I will do a little more reading. I grasp the basics but I still require a bit more education before I proceed and this forum has plenty of step by step guides on how to do it, I just felt the need to bash Samsung. I wish I could do more so that Samsung actually hears my and many other peoples complaints.
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BorisZX6R said:
Hazzard99 thank you for the reply. You are absolutely right and that is why I said it must all be software related since the hardware seems like it is supposed to beat pretty much any device out there.
I am fine with rooting and I did it, I just do not feel comfortable to flash any custom firmware yet...
I am more frustrated with samsung than anything else. I think android is the future definitely and it is growing daily... but Samsung lost me as a customer, that is for sure.
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I understand that the stock version of the phone is truly laggy, and the gps is not that great. But they are many roms or "custom firmwares" that u can flash. They will make ur phone nearly 100x better. Flashing is defnitely worth it. If ur brave enough, you can even add on the ffc.

Dont be scared you dont have to do much but flash the rom of your choice and read up on it a bit.
One of the little pleasures of life Is taking pride in the things that we do for ourselves. I am very grateful for the community everytime I meet someone who has a certain phone and hates it. I let them know that the phone isnt that bad.
Oh and btw I run bionix v and I can underclock to 800mhz and be happy as a pig in poop.
And also we let samsung have it. they got railed via facebook and twitter about how unhappy people were. Tust me they know!!!

BorisZX6R said:
Tjbunch1228 thanks for your understanding.
I will be flashing a custom rom and kernel but I think before that I will do a little more reading. I grasp the basics but I still require a bit more education before I proceed and this forum has plenty of step by step guides on how to do it, I just felt the need to bash Samsung. I wish I could do more so that Samsung actually hears my and many other peoples complaints.
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I recommend both guides in my signature if you have not already. And yeah, we railed samsung pretty hard... got some articles written and voi'la they released froyo (half-assed though)

A little ass is better than no ass! Amirite? lol

Yeah I was scared about f-ing my phone up but with some reading and some trail and error I've learned that without tthe dev community I would truly hate and more then likely would have broke this phone out or frustration. Wait till you get a whiskey or axura or eugene or the other guys.(sorry I just don't know the developer name but they so trigger and couple others) you will be floored. I know I am
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Well guys thanks for your input. I will have to do some more reading and definitely some flashing (this just sounds weird)
One question though. Would flashing eugenes kernel but remaining with stock ka6 fix the lag on this device?
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Dont flash that!!!!!
Not cause its bad or anything.. but it could possibly erase your sd card and mess with your internal memory if you dont watch out
You are warned

Got it. I will stay away for now.
Thank you!
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Sorry I meant supercurio not eugene.
Supercurio is the one that mentioned odin flashable kernel + voodoo but using stock firmware ka6 if I understood correctly...
I feel comfortable using odin, so if this will speed up the vibrant I would gladly try it...
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It has a big impact on the speed. And sound is freakin sweet!

No More Rooting Our Little Friend...

Just a FYI, I was on the phone with one of my friend HTC engineers, long distance from outside the USA, which he gave me some good gossip about the G2.
*Take it for what is worth. I do admit this my not be new info to some.
1) There is a OTA update coming for the G2 which will DEFINITELY cause you to loose root, and A LOT OF WORK has gone into the update to prevent rooting. Matter of fact, my HTC friend tells me that the encryption algorithm will almost make it impossible to root. My opinion, nothing is impossible!
2) BTW, there IS MAJOR development in up coming new tech with 3D displays. My little 'rumor mill' friend informed me that he seen a Android live wallpaper in 3D fire that looks so realistic that when you tilt the device forward, the icons actually go through the flames.
3) He told me that when the G2 was originally released, it was purposely done to make it hard to root, and now with the Gingerbread OTA update just around the corner (he said it may happen in July) by the time IF anyone figures out how to root it, the phone will be completely outdated.
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So after weeks of saying they're unlocking bootloaders, opening sense to developers and changing their ways... You're saying your friend knows they're lying?

katiepea said:
So after weeks of saying they're unlocking bootloaders, opening sense to developers and changing their ways... You're saying your friend knows they're lying?
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I dunno, but its true that bootloaders and rooting are 2 separate things anyway. He's referencing rooting this latest stock GB rom, not unlocking bootloaders.
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It seems there is an 'official' leaked rom out there that is digitally signed by HTC and also T-Morgul (misspending is applied) that after flashed, perm-root has not yet been achieved. Now the great devs that stripped the GB rom (from the raw, has rooted it), so you can flash a rooted version, but hasn't yet rooted after flash.
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hard to believe.

I find when people are lying they add useless information like "a long distance phone call" and "out of usa."
Were this true imd expect somthing like "i was talking to a buddy of mine that works for htc. He heard they had some new encyption that will take forever to root!"
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I would say he is lying, but after spending some time in the irc its not looking so good. They even blocked the fail safe goldcard method for downgrading. I think this is bad news being one of the first to receive a 2.3 device back from them I have tried everything to help get this thing rooted hope there is a way to root it soon before all the devs leave for newer devices.

thugjedi said:
I would say he is lying, but after spending some time in the irc its not looking so good. They even blocked the fail safe goldcard method for downgrading. I think this is bad news being one of the first to receive a 2.3 device back from them I have tried everything to help get this thing rooted hope there is a way to root it soon before all the devs leave for newer devices.
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Hi !
We gonna see about that!
But just to put some things straight:
- The goldcard to downgrade method also needed temp-root to change the main version in the misc-partition.
- At the moment we do not have a working temp-rooting method for gingerbread (besides gingerbreak but this has been patched in our version)
- We are not working on a new temp-root very urgent but this will change
Comes time, comes root.
Have fun - Guhl

Where there's a will, there's a way,
i'm sure one developer will manage to find an exploit, some way or another.

No way.... Is there no way not to accept the ota update when it comes to our phones
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Even those running a custom rom?

well if you think about it, if GB update from htc has been in development for the past 6 months (with specific configurations for different phones). and during this development phase they're stance was to still lock rooting and bootloaders. it would be near impossible to get a release June/July with a different development path based on the statement by the CEO.
either they will push back the OTA update, or roll out and meet the deadlines with their current path and with other phones already getting updates the past few months. I would say they're rolling it out with just configuration testing and QA on our phones

Why not just do this...sell rooted devices and locked devices. Or just sell all devices rooted. Lets face it most people now with android phones have no clue what the os is capable of and buy it off of hype.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.

scottmahoney said:
Even those running a custom rom?
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I dont think they can just ota overwrite the custom rom. When you have a custom rom you dont receive the other ota updates why would you receive this one.

It's true or not, but: No root - not buying HTC phone.
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Dont worry anout the OTA you dont have to install it. Just dont break your current device and get a replacement.... Or pay to fix the one you got.
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root suggestion

I'm sure this was probably already suggested but instead of trying to fool/force the bootloader to go s-off or something, why not try this (warning: stupid content ahead) You could actually push a known exploitable source such as flash (wait until latest update, flash is known for being better than swiss cheese when it comes to holes) and trying to get that to have an arbitrary code injection. Why not instead of treating it like android and linux, just treat it as linux.
I'm not an android dev but I was just offering thoughts.
Or you could even just start poking through apk's that are allowed system level access if there are any without root and make an apk to gain system access to break in by tricking the file system?

Indirect said:
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I'm not an android dev ...
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I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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Well its good of you to post ideas and sorry this section is full of flamers
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I don't think it is appropriate to insult someone for offering suggestions, regardless of whether you feel they are right or not. Progress does not exist without new ideas, which more often than not, are wrong.
Try some helpful input instead of just being rude.
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Posted something in this thread I think certain people need to read
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Vegasden said:
I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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no need to be rude...

It's not really rude. Just kind of accurate.
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I'm just offering suggestions. It actually was rude.

Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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lithid-cm said:
Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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Psh, 6 weeks is too long. Just nail the damn thing to a tree. Technically, rooted.

lithid-cm said:
Cover your phone with gorilla glue, put a mixture of seeds on the glue. Dig a 12 inch hole and bury your phone. Water it everyday for 6 weeks. Dig up your phone and shazam! Rooted
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I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.

Indirect said:
Psh, 6 weeks is too long. Just nail the damn thing to a tree. Technically, rooted.
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This is actually quite funny and I think someone needs to open a new thread in the gen. forums along the lines of android/phone jokes... we need some good humor now and then (along w/ the dirty minded stuff)
edit* sorry this has nothing to do with OP

rofl this is why i love my xda fam, the good and the bad its all funny,
but to stay on topic:
This has more than likely already been thought about so as android is android,
and java is java, and linux is linux, programs without root access are sandboxed, and only programs with root access can run as root, and if user does not have some way shape or form access to the superuser then there is no way there can be any permission changes to anything above the current users, or programs sandbox, if that makes any sense....

androidsupra said:
I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.
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Lithids just a huge flamer..
Jk
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androidsupra said:
I like your method. Is this the final result of your attempt at root. Or did this non dev poster hit too close to one of your ideas and you want to discourage him before someone else beats you to it.
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I think this is the funniest post so far.

Vegasden said:
I left the more accurate points made by the OP in the quote.
If you're no dev, then this is not the place to be posting.
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Free thinkers are dangerous

Since no one answered I'll take a shot. There would need to be a permissions escalation exploit in flash or other app for this to work. Others have thought of this for sure already and you first need to find an exploit in flash or some other app.
Likely if any exploits do exist no one knows about them. We don't need people to suggest the idea at a high level. We need people to search and find such exploits. Or figure out another way.
It's either a waiting game or buy a new phone.
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JUST REMEMBER ONE BIG HUGE THING! WHEN YOU FIND A BUG. PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ DO NOT IN ANY FORM OR WAY POST IT ONLINE!
NEVERNEVERNEVERNEVERNEVER
That's because sprint and HTC monitor these threads 100% OF THE DAY. in fact, I know for a fact that a few of these guys that talk on here all the time are employees and little rats. they won't come out and say it because this is what their job is. to monitor us.
Send the Information to a few limited dev's and wait for a response.
ACTUALLY!!!! I think another way to do this is to make a thread*not thread, but like a folder/area we can make threads* and put a lock on it to prevent anyone under 300ish posts from even reading them. :-D then that thread will only have the smarter guys in it or people that have been around for a while. :-D
LMAO!!!! okay, now to do what I just said not to do....... okay, so tell me guys. where does the OTA get saved at? That certain object has root. Is it possible to send us an OTA over the radio over our OWN radio? you know those radio booster things they send customers when they are too far out for service that the customer hooks up to their wifi? I wonder if it is possible to hack that and get it to think you're downloading a new OTA but really would be changing it to root. lol. actually. I honestly think that would truely work.
I didn't really word that right. but I think you guys get the point. I know it is possible. cause think about it. if the thing is going through YOUR OWN network... you control what is on your own network. :-D therefore, you could tell it anything you wanted it to know. :-D

Yeah, but wouldn't the image you push as a fake OTA need to be signed like everything else? Maybe we could trick the OS into installing an older OTA, but even then I bet it would give an error about the version being older.
Still, anyone know how one could try to trick it? I believe the updates are stored in cache, and otherwise I don't know how the system knows that there is an update downloaded and ready to be installed.
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That's because sprint and HTC monitor these threads 100% OF THE DAY. in fact, I know for a fact that a few of these guys that talk on here all the time are employees and little rats. they won't come out and say it because this is what their job is. to monitor us.
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I'm a Sprint employee but I'm more of a bear than rat

Root

Has it been made possible to root 2.3.4 as of late?
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No. Only downgrading will work. IMO, gingerbread for our phone will never achieve full root and S-off... But I had to downgrade and its not that hard! Go here to downgrade. good luck.
Thanks if I helped

Lol u like your thanks dont you
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Yup.
10 char

Im thinking by the time I get all this downgrading, rooting,and flashing.....ill be due for my upgrade and rockin my sgs2
I originally had the vibrant but broke it aonth ago and am now using a friends backup phone....I learned to temp root this thing then had tmobile update it now im back to this? Lol.....cant wait for april
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All of that should take 30minutes to an hour lol. Not days or weeks

The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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Yeah but the mytouch 4g root with a computer is so much more worth it

Shortbus-Driver said:
The galaxy s series is so easy to root and flash ....all done without the need for a computer
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No, after Gingerbread update you have to use a computer with ODIN to root, and once rooted, it's much more painful to flash the idiotic partition system of Galaxy S, requiring you to reflash bootloaders and kernels from PC before flashing the actual ROMs or even for backup restorations, being unable to flash kernel from recovery - because kernel contains the recovery. Actually, if there is a phone that requires PC almost for any type of flashing - that would be Galaxy S.
IMHO, as stated many times - if you can't follow a simple guide to downgrade and root your MT4G, you shouldn't be rooting anyway.

Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up

Shortbus-Driver said:
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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@jack_r1 makes a very valid point. rooting this phone when it had 2.2.x was STUPID easy. Easy and quick enough that i had it rooted before i left the T-Mobile Store, when i bought the phone.
The new method is simple. you downgrade then you use one of two VERY simple methods to root your phone.
If you cannot follow directions and need to rely on a one click root. Either based from the phone or on the PC then you shouldn't be messing with SU access.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Lmao what a tard
That reply isnt even worthy of a responce....buckle up
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That's what a clueless person would say, I guess. If you had ever tried to flash anything on Galaxy S type phone, you'd know. Pretty much all the ROM flashing instructions contain ODIN versions and instructions that require flashing at least bootloaders and mostly kernels too (see "Flash a stock Gingerbread ROM" step as an example), for a reason. Moreover, you can try flashing Gingerbread MIUI and then reverting back without ODIN. Good luck.
And whoever messed with rooting and flashing one phone, if he didn't just have to click "root" button on 1-click-rooter of some kind, but at least to work out ADB, wouldn't be afraid of rooting MT4G. I guess your mouth is going far ahead of your knowledge. It's good that rooting became complicated on all phones, because it keeps dummies from messing with things they don't understand.

This is what happens when one is having a friendly conversation with another and a third party joins in with a ” im better than you complex” and runs his/her trap and makes insults for no apperent reason all in his/her very first post .....if you cant be nice and put in helpful info without insult stay out kiddo......or buckle up and enjoy the ride....I dont care either way I deal with dumbasses on a daily basis and your not gonna find my nerve
lol
I dont let children and childish adults get to me lit-alone on a keyboard
Yes you can root and flash a galaxy s without ever touching a comp.
Yes in some cases odin is required,inwhich involves using a comp.....omg Im so sorry ..... Although that was further along than the conversation I was having with invasion....lol you just wanted to come here and play the ”all knowing” part and the ”im also a cyber tough guy” part wich are both laughable and pathetic at the same time.
Now you can stop your childish anticks and allow hair to grow on your balls or continue crying like a little girl.....either way im done with you youve already waisted enough of my time inwhich im certain you were not worth! :-D
Go ahead, feel free to make another attempt to make yourself feel big and bad.....after all thats what you came here to do in the first place.....and seeins as im giving you the oppertunity to have the last word.......nows your chance to turn it around or fail as you so boldly have.
Have a nice day kiddo

Or should I rephrase:
You posted without searching, one of, if not the most posted question on the forum. Then, when you got the response that indicated you as a not-so-brave person, you tried to start bragging to lift your self-esteem, taking this thread off track. Then, when you understood you've got caught bragging, you've read the regular line that shows on these forums 3 times a week - "if you can't follow the guide, you shouldn't be rooting anyway" as a personal insult - and got all cocky and started name calling. When you got paid with the same money, you still keep being cocky.
The funny thing is that I didn't write to catch you on your bragging, I couldn't care less. I just can't stand wrong info, which you happened to be spilling, so I corrected. This is not a private chatroom, there are no "friendly conversations" here. This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-group-hugging-team.
Waste of time, indeed.
Grow up.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.

invasion2 said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = Burn. I think we should stop arguing.
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+100
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Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol

...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.

Shortbus-Driver said:
Thank god this is just a loaner phone.
I guess its true.....that with cheap low quality phones comes cheap low quality followers.....have a nice life lol
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That's cool too. You're welcome for the help. -_____-
saranhai said:
...why are you not banned yet?
everything Jack_R1 said is absolutely true.
he is a very great helper, and many people respect him. if you don't have the quality of respect, then i'm sorry, but you must not have been taught any morals.
i COMPLETELY disagree with anything you said. Samsung makes the worst products out there. i mean seriously? WHY DO I NEED TO FLASH MY GALAXY S VIA ODIN OR WHATEVER GARBAGE TO GET A NEW ROM??? that's plain crap! pointless. you must not have very good experience with HTC devices.
let me show you how HTC does it:
Rooting
very easy and simple on most devices, main thing is to obtain S-off.
Flashing
even easier.
this procedure goes for every HTC device out there:
reboot to recovery
make a nandroid backup
wipe
flash
DONE.
what about Samsung?
oooh first you gotta flash the "bootloader" or whatever crap, then the "modem", then this, then that via ODIN, and then you gotta do this this and this, THEN you finally reboot into recovery and flash.
i will let you decide which you think is easier, but don't go about saying that i have "no idea what i'm talking about" because i do. my dad has a Galaxy S, and flashing to that device is complete crap. i don't know WHERE you got that info that "flashing to a Galaxy doesn't require a computer". BECAUSE IT DOES.
stupid ODIN...
anyway, back on point. if you think you're so great and pro, maybe YOU can make an easier way to root 2.3.4 Stock MYTOUCH. cause i think a lot of us would appreciate it. maybe then, you'll be worthy enough to be here. because all you've done so far, is fill up xda with your retarded garbage.
have a nice day.
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LMAO. ^^^^^^^^^^ = 2ND STRAIGHT BURN!!!
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Lol this is funny ****