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2.2 root exploit suggestion!!

Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?

Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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Joeriginal said:
Makes sense to me but I'm also a novice but good contribution dude. Maybe it could get the ball rolling on this thing.
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heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.

IRepTheKing said:
heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.

now we just need a hacker
So... thanks for the chime-ins on the idea. I thought it was a good one too. I am curious now to see what one of the big hackers has to say about it. Knowing my luck, it would be a squashed dream.

SilverZero said:
Come on, you know that's not true. The reason people get crap for asking about rooting 2.2 is that the info and answers are all already here on the front pages.
But I like that people are still thinking and suggesting like the OP. That's how things are going to keep moving.
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Hummm "crap" to "veal" I love it you know what some developer thinks of veal LOL

IRepTheKing said:
heck yeah, cause it's long overdue. You even mention 2.2 root in here, and you get barked at like you're in "The Village" and that is "the thing of which we don't speak." LOL
Well, frankly, it's the only reason I check XDA daily: to see if someone finally rooted 2.2, so like it or not, it's gonna be what many people are waiting for....
So, way to go on the idea. This at least gives hope that we are still looking for an exploit.
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That's the main reason I check in daily too...
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Not bad......
Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.

edufur said:
Ok, so I was going a lot of playing around with my phone last night. On the scale of hacking, I am not even in the same realm as the skilled folks here. I tinker with things now and then... and sometimes I get ideas... like now.
So, my EVO is setup to work with my corp exchange server for work emails. I noticed that under Settings / Security / Select Device Administrators, the exchange security policy is in there. This section also seems to suggest that you can "add / remove" but it appears to only allow removal from the UI.
Then I got to some more thinking... an app essentially installed itself and granted itself this right. Why cant we study what that app is doing a do something similar? Or at a minimum, exploit those very roles that are already there on the device?
Am I even thinking along the right lines? Or am I way off?
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Not to burst your bubble or anything, but I'm pretty sure this is mostly related to corporate security so that IT can lock the phone down even more than carriers/manufacturers do. Think stuff like not being able to install apps, email restrictions, password management, etc.
Breaking this security feature will at most give you the access non-corporate users enjoy with their unrooted phones.

I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.

SilverZero said:
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....

bluediablito said:
Not bad......
Just had an idea ( warning I am a noob.) So the previews exploit was found by running flash. If any developer can create an app and install the old flash to allow the old exploit. Then this will allow us to flash.
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I asked same thing other day... They said that htc closed thee flash exploit and reverting to an older version won't be able to access that same exploit since they closed and patched thee exploit
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sprink0281 said:
You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.

sk63 said:
To further derail this thread, this "easter egg" is actually a feature from Google, the reasoning being that is probably better to send a nonsensical word over a swear word in case you didn't actually mean to write the swear word.
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Still derailing I understand what your saying as you are probably correct, its just funny how they related crap to veal...as you know lots of people don't approve of veal, so the code writer must be one of them...there are so many different words they could have chosen..just funny that's all! Done with the derail, back on this exhausted topic

SilverZero said:
Side note: My Evo just spell-corrected "crap" to "veal." It was like an Easter egg or something.
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Sorry... I hate to be off topic, but this sparked a memory. I was sending my wife a txt a couple weeks ago and I can't remember the word I was typing, but it was definitely a legitimate word--no reason for Android to mess with it anyway. It effectively turned that word into "gay"...go figure.

Like sk63 said, that just relates to the Exchange admin role. Nothing to do with root access on the device.

sprink0281 said:
You know I noticed that the other day when I sending a text and thought the same thing.. I couldn't figure out how spelling crap was even close to the spelling of veal! So yes I think it was on purpose too! I wonder how many other 'Easter eggs" are programmed into this phone......where is the root egg...hehe....
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OK -
V is to the right of C
E is to the left of R
A is the same as A
L is left under P
I hope this puts an end to this veal crap!

ok, back to topic
So, for the point about exchange administration... I am aware of what it is used for... since I myself am a user of it. My point was that it has administrative power over the phone since it can perform a wipe (among other highly privileged tasks)... so the idea was to try and use that system somehow to exploit.
I also liked the thinking behind installing old flash. That is at least a good question. One that I would love to hear the answer to.

Any time I spell Uber it tries to write ubersexual lol
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N00dle said:
I'm sure there are plenty of dev's looking for exploits on a daily basis. No need to get peoples hopes up early is why there isn't much talk about it. Same reason people get dumped on for asking on a daily basis. If there was one found already it would be posted so quit asking sort of issue.
I like the thoughts though.
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Wow! So (1) we aren't allowed to make any kind of new thread about 2.2 and rooting and (2) we can't share ideas about possible exploits, at least not in your presence.
I gotta say, kick me, kill me, put me on probation, but you are truly one GIANT ASS. Who put you on that high horse? What an Asshole. Hey, what prompted you to open this thread? Was it to review some interesting literature tied to an intriguing title, or did you open it knowing full well when you clicked that you were going to scroll to the bottom and post the most close-minded, rude, obtrusive comment you could think of?

GPS Restore Program

Androidcentral just posted this article talking about a GPS setting restore program that Samsung has released. Link is below for any who are interested.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-gps-restore-app-vibrant-captivate-does-it-work
Note: It was originally intended for the Captivate so use at your own risk

Yeah, just saw that Samsung posted the announcement via Twitter. Wonder if it actually works.

imnuts said:
Yeah, just saw that Samsung posted the announcement via Twitter. Wonder if it actually works.
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DJ05 works, not something that resets your GPS values.
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I saw a comment on the article that it could be Samsung planning an update that requires the default settings for GPS to work properly. Why they wouldn't just have the update reset the data is beyond me, but it's a possibility. I'll just stick with DJ05.

I have to agree about DJ05. Incredible improvement. If I put my Fascinate in my windshield mount and start the GPS, it's locked on, and giving me directions by the time I back out of the driveway.

Have to third dj05. Gps is now spot on. I get a 15 second lock every time. Also get twice as many sats to lock in now than I did with di01.
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How do u guys get that dj05 or whatever its called.
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really wish this forum would not turn you on to information then withhold it
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neh4pres said:
really wish this forum would not turn you on to information then withhold it
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No one is withholding anything silly. Its just a matter of peoples jobs and such.
Google is your friend , your phone os, and your means of information. I bet if you spend like 5 mins searching you will be able to find just about anything you're looking for.
good luck

I installed it, works perfectly fine...
I'm kidding. I don't think it applies to our phone.

slvrevoix said:
No one is withholding anything silly. Its just a matter of peoples jobs and such.
Google is your friend , your phone os, and your means of information. I bet if you spend like 5 mins searching you will be able to find just about anything you're looking for.
good luck
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the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
my 2 dinars
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BTW; I'm back with my Incredible, which locks instantly, until the GPS is fixed or an easy to find, easy to install fix is available. Over all I prefer the Fascinate but the sucky GPS is a deal breaker.

balaams_ass said:
the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
my 2 dinars
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BTW; I'm back with my Incredible, which locks instantly, until the GPS is fixed or an easy to find, easy to install fix is available. Over all I prefer the Fascinate but the sucky GPS is a deal breaker.
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Then install dj05 and have a working GPS. I am not seeing any relevance to your post.
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balaams_ass said:
the logic problem with this is that if Samsung (who I strongly suspect knows about the leak) really wanted to find the leaker they could just as easily as any one else go to the IRC and obtain it. Not trying to be obtuse but are we really protecting the leaker by talking about, alluding to how to get it but simply not posting it ? I doubt it.
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The primary reason that it's not posted here is that the update may never be an official update. Since there is a risk in updating to DJ05, as well as going back to DI01, it's better to keep it where it currently is until the update is official or something else that is newer/better comes out.

adrynalyne said:
Then install dj05 and have a working GPS. I am not seeing any relevance to your post.
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And I'm not seeing a link to the downloadable file in yours. Adrynalyne your Omnia ROM is still on the phone in the old phone drawer and I have the greatest respect for the work all the devs do. I wish I had the skills and time. I am capable of understanding the risks involved in modding my phone and consider them in every instance.
The dj05 leak is not readily available, the reason that has been most often offered is that the leaker will be put in jeopardy if it is. I don't agree with that logic. That is the only relevance I was hoping for.

imnuts said:
The primary reason that it's not posted here is that the update may never be an official update. Since there is a risk in updating to DJ05, as well as going back to DI01, it's better to keep it where it currently is until the update is official or something else that is newer/better comes out.
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This makes much more sense. Minimize the access to the less skilled. In my case I think I could find it and install it. I choose not to probably because it seems less supported then makes me comfortable. So the logic and the result are proven.
I'm good now. Thanks

Anyone needs to root? [Making automatic rooter]

If anyone needs to root, please post here
Im making an automatic rooter for this phone.

I will need it tomorrow after i pick mine up
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phone really?

Phone lawl
Edit: I couldn't resist. Props though, thus would be appreciated by many I'm sure
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Uhmm, you're gonna build an auto-root for the Xoom?!
I'm the proud owner of a rooted Droid running UD7, and have rooted friends' Droids, too. But STILL, I read the instruction in the root Xoom "how-to" in the dev forum, and I can't for the life of me figure it out enough to have any confidence what so ever while trying it!
-It's the same thing as when root came out for the Droid; there's the "know wtf it all means" crowd getting pelted with redundant Qs from us "can't figure it out" guys!
-So what's the usual donation for this?

I'd probably use one instead of ADB.

alright, so who wants to test it out?

I'd love it. Then I wouldn't my settings and apps.
Mike

I'd love to try it as well
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Just got my wifi Xoom today, so yeah, definitely interested!

im just used to saying "Phone" from modding so many phones.. -__-
lol bare with me..

Does it wipe data and unlock the radio? I'd like to try it but wondering what unlocking would do to my Verizon account and I've installed and setup a lot on this thing and I'm having trouble locating a good pre-root backup app.

xologist said:
alright, so who wants to test it out?
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Just curious, do you have a xoom to test it on ??

Honestly, I'm afraid to go first.

I would assume this is for Xoom 3G and not Wifi only?

Someone point me towards a good backup program for unrooted Xooms so I can backup all my apps and configs and I'll go first

keep in mind that the wifi and 3g xooms appear to be different when it comes to rooting...

I hope you can get this to work for the Wifi version. I never learned to use SDK and adb commands. Used Unrevoked for my Dinc.
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cam30era said:
I hope you can get this to work for the Wifi version. I never learned to use SDK and adb commands. Used Unrevoked for my Dinc.
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Its not a bad thing to learn ;-) and its really not that difficult to use adb.. people are just so damn lazy in this day and age.. its like "what I have to type something?!?! I can't just click something?" Lol god you younger people would have flipped if all you had was dos when you were a kid like me. Hell back then everything was on 5 1/4 floppy disks Lol
I'm taking classes (I'm 35) and the professor asked the class if anyone remembered before there was an internet.. 3 people raised their hands.. lol so if people now a days can't remember when there was no internet its almost impossible to think people know what it was like before windows, when everything was command based.. me I'd much rather type I to a prompt then click a button
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Gosh, thanks for that.
I do remember DOS. I also remember when my school got the new TRS80s during my sophomore year. I remember learning BASIC.
I also remember having to sell my prized posession, a beautiful Fender bass, to pay my rent because my landscaping job wasn't paying me well enough. Thank God I found the part time job shoveling **** at that horse farm. It wasn't so bad because it's cool at night.
Nuttin' like shovelin' **** for five hours after a 10 hour day baking in the sunshine smashing your finger all to hell building rock walls.
What I DON'T seem to remember are any times when I had a spare thousand bucks to set fire to.
Now from all that you might gather that I'm just some dumb ass laborer with no need to even HAVE a Xoom, let alone root the thing, but I'm not. I've hacked my Canon cameras, my K1m, my Droid, and now I want to take my Xoom to its limits.
What I DON'T wanna do is turn it into a friggin paperwieght for my desk (...yes, years later I now work at a desk).
I agree with you that there are a lot of lazy folks these days, and being 8 years your senior, I've witnessed this regression more so than yourself. However, I don't think "lazy" is nearly as accurate as "fearful" is for the true description of folks here looking for a sure-fire way to root with the least amount of possibility of catastophic failure.
Sorry for the rant, but this has always been an issue for me from guys that share your perspective on this.

Is it true??? Root maybe coming??

So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100

tnerb123 said:
So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
See the links listed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?

there is a whole evo 3d forum here on XDA which would be a better place to talk about it

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I love all the posts about just watch here and they'll be tons of posts about the new root. now that one is close.
One post

Right now, there is NO new root. I guaranty you there will be people Fighting to be the first to post when it actually drops. Plus, if you read the thread, they state that it seems to be very device specific...meaning it may not help us, we don't know yet. Unless you are a dev or a tester, we are still in wait-and-see mode.

True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it

rezistrat said:
True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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Why get the hopes up of all of the noobs that took the OTA. The smart ones that got unlucky with a warranty swap or an insurance claim that got 2.3.3 on a new/refurb phone knows where to look and when to ask about it.

I heard unrevoked has a solution. They appear to have bootloader loop issue to resolve before they can publish a solution.
Hope this is true.
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MrDSL said:
I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
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It went over your head completely. Derty-der...
Many people with unrooted phones and GB 2.3.3, S-ON, are waiting for a solution to get flipped over to s-off. So they can root.
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Im sure xda devs are hard at work I will wait as long as it takes them or until they say it can't be done
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sweet i heard they rooted the cdma hero

True, yes it may be coming. Quote the maybe part ok let's all move on.

They actually said last night in IRC that it's unlikely that the exploit will work on Sense 1.0 roms.

Hey HTC,..

You know you are the reason xda came to be. A massive community forged behind your products, and your old model of 'keeping things open'.
Xda has become a HUGE COMMUNITY.
you will become zero and lose your place in the US if dev HTC unlock continues to be the halfass joke that HTC made and that actually is more likely to screw HTC users. We need full unlock, then we can fix our own software, not rely on you.
I love HTC hardware, but I'm buying galaxy or something in about 10 days.
Please listen to our recovery builders and take into consideration the VALID points I KNOW they have brought to your attention. They know Android better than YOU, HTC.
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I agree completely. It is sad to have one of the only manufacturers outside of Google phones that offer an "unlockable" product, yet see so many struggling almost more than without unlock!
Looking a device is understandable from both manufacturer and carrier points of view. When a grown adult, who spends their hard earned money on a device, wants to upgrade and develop their own software why lock them out? HTC will only benefit from the developer community as Android a a whole exists on the theory of open source. CID was found out explored and corrected all within this community and HTC got praise for it. Where is our returned gratitude?
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Bump!
Plus I have written an article on the situation, including the full quote from @toascfh from the discussion in the One X forum!
http://goo.gl/3T4NK

Great job! Hopefully HTC will listen. I know they'll listen to $, but I don't know how much of a dent the custom community would really put in their pocket.
Also, I cleaned up my post. It was written last night with anger/frustration and liquor. Lol
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Could you please clarify for me, and others who aren't completely sure, how this affects devs and users? For example:
1. Can I root?
2. Can I get superuser access and use SetCPU?
3. Can I flash a custom kernel?
4. Can I flash a custom ROM?
Those are some things I'm wondering. All I want development wise on my new toy is improved battery life, which I assume will come via kernel change or SetCPU. Does this seem possible?
Thanks in advance!
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PsiPhiDan said:
Could you please clarify for me, and others who aren't completely sure, how this affects devs and users? For example:
1. Can I root?
2. Can I get superuser access and use SetCPU?
3. Can I flash a custom kernel?
4. Can I flash a custom ROM?
Those are some things I'm wondering. All I want development wise on my new toy is improved battery life, which I assume will come via kernel change or SetCPU. Does this seem possible?
Thanks in advance!
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Do you currently have your EVO with s-off?
The new bootloaders are locking us out from flashing the boot partition from recovery. This means that if you want to flash a ROM you need to flash the boot.img from the ROM through fastboot first, then enter recovery and flash the ROM. Also, you are blocked from flashing from system, i.e. flashing from inside the ROM, like using ROM manager or something like that. As for the kernel I am not so sure... but maybe, unless it is in the boot partition, which I actually think it is...
So, you will use htcdev to "unlock" your phone, then you can use:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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This will get your custom recovery, however your options from there are limited as stated above.
Then, to flash a ROM, you need to issue:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Using the boot.img from the ROM, then enter recovery to flash the rest of the ROM... As far as I understand. Then you will be able to use recovery to flash su binaries gaining superuser access, if necessary.
So, really you are going to be tied to your computer, issuing a lot of fastboot commands just to update ROM's, this severely slows down, and complicates the process, however, it will still be possible.
This all stems from more of a frustration, that HTC is locking things down making hell for users to customize their own device. This is what some 3vo users and many Sensation users and almost all Rezound users are experiencing. With the One series there are many working on this but it is difficult and frustrating.
I do plan to get the EVO LTE, despite the turmoil, and am trying to quickly learn some dev work so I can be a contributing member to the community. Believe me there will be those that stick around, but to lose the likes of toastcfh and cyaniarb... that would be a major set back...
Viperboy has opted for the Galaxy Nexus, but may still come to the EVO LTE, which would be a big help as he has done some great work for locked HTC devices. Though, in the long run, we do need to let HTC know what we want and that we are valuable and indispensable as a consumer group.

Thanks a ton! That is very encouraging to hear that there are still ways to go about doing things, just not as easy to do them. Honestly, the only reason I am a flashaholic now is that there is nothing that satisfies all of my needs. I feel like the EVO 4G LTE will satisfy everything I am looking for, and I'll only need to do little tweaks instead of massive wholesale changes regularly.
Now that being said, I'm still not happy to hear it is making devs run elsewhere, because we need them to create stuff so we have an opportunity to tweak our phones, whether in terms of big changes or not. Is there a way we can draft an email together and everyone who cares on this site can send it to them? Kind of flood their email to send a message?

scottspa74 said:
Great job! Hopefully HTC will listen. I know they'll listen to $, but I don't know how much of a dent the custom community would really put in their pocket.
Also, I cleaned up my post. It was written last night with anger/frustration and liquor. Lol
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I went into there Facebook told them I'm the tech of the family and they ask me what's the next good phone told them to go with the iphone or Samsung since HTC is locking down yup I'm the one that convinced them to get evo's and evo3D in the first place. You see what they dont take into consideration is we tell people what's the next up in coming hot phone including me I could sway away 8 potential customers not one. Just my two cents
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Someone from the One X thread, where toast laid out the rant I quoted, already submitted said rant to HTC Facebook page.
Another problem with S-on is you can't flash radios. And from what I've seen in the rezound forum, once you update your main version (or firmware), like 4.54 to 4.67 for the Evo, you can't go back. So I believe it you wanted d to test an ICS ROM, and it was buggy, you couldn't go back to GB (using Evo current situation for reference).
As for kernel, I'm not sure how that is affected. As for recovery, I've changed recovery on my Evo using terminal emulator, meaning from within system (android). That can't be done in the current state of development, hence the need for fastboot and to do everything from a computer. I'm not fond of that.
The best way to see the current state of affairs is to do some serious browsing in the one x and rezound forums to see what users are up against.
Glad to hear you're studying up imheroldman. I need to, too. Hell, idont even know how to use cmd prompt or fastboot or adb. Never had to with Evo. Lotta people gonna have to study up, it seems.
Unless HTC gets their **** together. **cough cough cold day in hell**
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imheroldman said:
Bump!
Plus I have written an article on the situation, including the full quote from @toascfh from the discussion in the One X forum!
http://goo.gl/3T4NK
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I tweeted it, not like any one follows me but ...

With HTC claiming boot and USB are locked out because of "security reasons" is their way of saying "screw you, we will only give you a worthless partial unlock and still void your warranty for using it" and the htcdev.com method flags the device so they know you used it so your warranty can't be "reinstated" by relocking your phone like when they exploit and turn s-off then returning s-on so they don't know reinstates your warranty as far as sprint or HTC are concerned. This is the reason HTC locks the bootloader and requires a tool to "unlock" it. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader at all, they implemented what is called a custom binary flash counter which triggers a number increase when ever you flash a custom kernel that has been modified. And they put the recovery partition in the kernel so it triggers when you install a recovery. However there are ways to reset the flash counter so they can't tell you've modded your phone. I'm not a brand loyal person, I will go with whoever has the device I want. Which is why for now I'm using Samsung. The build quality while made of a plastic is solid, so solid in fact I spilled some water on my phone on accident and it didn't even seep under the battery cover, my evo was laying right next to it and it had water all inside the cover and enough to trigger the water marks. They have really improved their build quality since my intercept which left alot to be desired but it was also a very cheap budget smartphone to begin with. The epic touch and note are very well built pieces of technology they are solid, the joins are smooth where the pieces are attached or the battery cover meets the housing, and still extremely light weight. Even with my snap on hard shell on my et4g its so light I can't tell its in my pocket alot of times I always double check to make sure it didn't slip out.
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Thank you guys for your participation, I have 115 views on the blog entry just today!
I want to believe in HTC, that they will listen and lighten the lock down. We just need to speak up. This is a good start and yes hitting their pages and voicing our opinions as consumers will get their attention!

imheroldman said:
Thank you guys for your participation, I have 115 views on the blog entry just today!
I want to believe in HTC, that they will listen and lighten the lock down. We just need to speak up. This is a good start and yes hitting their pages and voicing our opinions as consumers will get their attention!
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The bad part is them claiming they did it for security reasons, it will be hard to get them to unlock something they are claiming they are doing for security. If we can get them to unlock it, its gonna take a lot of convincing. A better option would be to ask for detailed instructions on how to flash firmware to the device with their setup. Obviously they have to flash firmware via OTAs so if they would outline the ROA for the OTA firmware install we could use that to flash our customs
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That is the second option that toastcfh laid out. Apparently that is what the G1 had, full documentation on how to flash firmware. This might be the ultimate option, seeing as they want things to be locked but give those who just want an unlock that ability and for those wanting to go further the opportunity and the tools to do so.

Hahahaha.
Just saw the same thing CM9 on One X
Just saw this in the Evo 3d forum. So yeah, that's encouraging. But, it doesn't have camera working, and I wouldn't be surprised if that remains the case, due to HTCs new image chip and closed code. Decisions decisions 
Granted, this doesn't negate the frustration with S-on.
Edit: see what I did there imheroldman ? Thanks buddy. :thumbup:
Evil, what is the tampered watermark you speak of?
Also, in the 3d thread where I saw CM9 link, I swear I saw they have S-off now! That's great.
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I really like their new "tampered" watermark
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....tampered watermark? Whuuuuu?
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scottspa74 said:
....tampered watermark? Whuuuuu?
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Instead of unlocked it now says ****TAMPERED**** at the top of an unlocked bootloader
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Has anybody ever tryed doing a petition that people can sign to HTC for a full unlock?
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UberJams said:
Has anybody ever tryed doing a petition that people can sign to HTC for a full unlock?
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I think this is a great idea as well. Let's speak up!