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G-Tablet Or Nook Color???
I want to run honeycomb but i want a big screen i want it to be fast but if i got the gtab then i also want a camera but if i put honeycomb on it then there would be no camera! If i put on nook it would be slow but i openGL would work right???
which also means flash player!!
I'm So confused and i need help badly.
If there is another tablet in the 250 to 300 range that can run honeycomb smooth and that also has a camera please tell otherwise please HELP!!!!!
I do not think you can get any other tablet for less than $300 that has any many options as the Nook.
A big screen, 10 inch tablet, running Honeycomb, for under $300.... does not exist at all as far as I know. If it DOES exist it is crap
If you want a camera then the Nook wont work for you. If you want a camera, and you want to run Honeycomb, then you are looking at shelling out a LOT more than $250.
My friend has the g tablet (I have the NC). I was going to help him root it last night but he canceled on me at the last minute. I was really anxious to see what the g tablet could do with CM7. But the thing is really smooth, probably a bit above the NC. But a lot of it comes down to personal preference. The 7 inch form factor is so nice and small, yet its plenty big enough to watch movies on. The 10 inch is very bigger in my opinion.
Viewsonic has the viewbook 730 coming out soon. It has a camera and other hardware the Nook doesn't. Its a 7 inch screen for the same price as the Nook. Might be an option.
There's a thread comparing the two: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948348&highlight=viewsonic
The consensus seems to be that the Viewsonic is...bad. The screen in particular is...very bad. A couple people were satisfied with it.
If you really want all the features you listed, save up and get an ASUS Transformer; it seems like the next step up from the NC that's actually worth what you pay for it.
In particular, if you're dead set on Honeycomb, get a Honeycomb tablet. There are no good Honeycomb custom ROMs for any device and won't be for at least several months, because no one has the source code--Google is holding onto it. If you're getting an NC, run CM7 with Honeybread or a similar theme. It's not playing make-believe any more or less than running one of the proof-of-concept HC demo ROMs, and you can actually have access to features like bluetooth, tegra2 games (running chainfire), Netflix, overclocking, and USB host, to name a few.
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There's a thread comparing the two: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948348&highlight=viewsonic
The consensus seems to be that the Viewsonic is...bad. The screen in particular is...very bad. A couple people were satisfied with it.
If you really want all the features you listed, save up and get an ASUS Transformer; it seems like the next step up from the NC that's actually worth what you pay for it.
In particular, if you're dead set on Honeycomb, get a Honeycomb tablet. There are no good Honeycomb custom ROMs for any device and won't be for at least several months, because no one has the source code--Google is holding onto it. If you're getting an NC, run CM7 with Honeybread or a similar theme. It's not playing make-believe any more or less than running one of the proof-of-concept HC demo ROMs, and you can actually have access to features like bluetooth, tegra2 games (running chainfire), Netflix, overclocking, and USB host, to name a few.
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thank you i read all 7 pages of that thread and i want to go with the asus transformer but this is just if i cant get it there is a possibility of me getting it tho
So I have had my Nook Color for about a year now. My wife had one and I decided I wanted one to root. I have been running with it rooted and got rather comfortable with it, I am stuck on Android I admit. Of course now I am having issues with the latest rooting so I am thinking "Hmm new Nook out maybe I should consider it"
So I am asking the community what is the real differences?
I know I could go online and read through 100 reviews all by different people who spend all their days with gadgets and I have no clue if they play with it the same way I do, and I am fairly certain they aren't going to hack it like I am.
So what do you think? Is it just a slightly updated Nook Color or is there more? What is making you excited that you couldn't nicely do with a rooted Nook Color? What do think will be lost in the transition? Also how long do you think it will take until there is a simple rooting solution?
Totally based on specs, the big differences are more internal memory (16GB vs. 8GB) and more CPU power (dual-core and faster clock speed). Oh, and I think the Nook Tablet does have a mic which is interesting if for no other reason than voice recognition-based input.
The screen size is the same, though I've read several articles saying the new screen is pretty gorgeous. I don't know if it's the same screen (the one on the Nook Color is no slacker!) and this is the first time some people have seen it, or if it's an improved display.
I have a TouchPad running CM7 and I believe it has the same dual-core CPU as the Nook Tablet (if not the same, it's very similar), and I can say that there's a significant difference between the two in terms of fluidity. Things scroll smoother, load faster, render faster, etc. I would assume the Nook Tablet would be similar.
So in the end it depends on what you do with your Nook. If you're primarily reading books on it and playing Angry Birds, you're not going to see much of a difference most likely. I'm pretty sure the browser is going to be MUCH smoother on the Nook Tablet, though, as is the overall experience.
I remember reading that the Nook Color will also be getting the same 1.4 stock firmware update that the Nook Tablet will have, so if you're a rooted stock guy, that's a good thing, and even if you're not it may mean an updated kernel and/or drivers for a smoother experience on the Nook Color similar to what happened when 1.2 was released.
So ultimately it comes down to whether a smoother experience on what will otherwise be similar hardware (physical dimensions and appearance, not internals) and software is worth $250 to you.
I've looked at the Nook Color and Nook Tablet side by side.
In my opinion the overclocked, rooted Nook Color is excellent.
Aside from the increased memory, microphone and faster processor, there isn't enough difference to warrant "side" grading (Not enough difference for me to call it an 'upgrade') to the Nook Tablet.
Bluetooth?
Does anyone know if the Nook Tablet has Bluetooth?
IMO, if money is an issue, buy a refurb nook color. If you have a problem with refurb stuff and would rather have a new one, spend the extra 50 bucks on the nook tablet. Some beefier internals for the money and will be more futureproof.
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Another consideration in my opinion is that ICS will come to the Tablet first. I have no inside info, it just makes sense that the devs will want to update the most advanced device first, unless of course there is no actual coding difference between the two.
The way pricing is dropping on the 10" tablets and with ICS coming I couldn't see paying $250 for a Nook Tablet that is a minor improvement over the rooted NC.
I recently picked up a new Xoom for $320 from BJ's that they were discontinuing, my recommendation is that if you can afford $250 to upgrade to the Nook Tablet throw in another $100 and go for one of the 10" tablets.
I got my Nook Tablet last night and have been using a rooted/CM7 Nook Color since launch, so to answer your questions:
1. It is *much* faster. Web browsing is light years faster, especially with sites that have a great deal of visual content.
2. Speaker is slightly better.
3. Has a microphone, which will be an answer to my Skype-based prayers.
4. Screen *is* better, but not enough better that I'd switch on that alone.
5. Rubberized bezel makes gripping a bit better.
6. Double the ram of the NC - will be important in later versions of Android.
7. 16gb storage...CAVEAT: you only get access to 1gb in stock rom. (rooting and CM7 or 8 will of course fix this)
8. It is noticeably lighter when the two are held at the same time.
The device appears to use the exact same charger/cable, and I have used them here interchangeably.
At the end of the day, it is the vastly increased speed that wins me over. Everything is faster from scrolling, to video playback (damn good), to web browsing. That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
Thanks goldenu. Having someone compare side by side is very helpful. I think for me I do some browsing and such but usually I use it to access picture files in Dropbox. I don't think that it will specifically be worth the money for me to up grade. I have rerooted my NC and hopefully will not repeat the mistakes that kept killing it for me. But really the main question is how will the Nook Tablet handle porn?
There is always a problem being responsible with your money but loving gadgets. Maybe I will win the lotto and I will just buy them all, maybe hang them all on the walls and create an app to make one giant touchscreen wallboard. Ok enough day dreaming and silly ideas
But what if one has neither? The NC has just gone back to $199, but there's some money involved in rooting and upclocking--if a 4gb SD or whatever isn't on hand. Which would you buy if not full geek capable, but not too dumb to follow good rebuild instructions? That $199 is looking good all over again, but I'm $poor.
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goldenu said:
I got my Nook Tablet last night and have been using a rooted/CM7 Nook Color since launch, so to answer your questions:
1. It is *much* faster. Web browsing is light years faster, especially with sites that have a great deal of visual content.
2. Speaker is slightly better.
3. Has a microphone, which will be an answer to my Skype-based prayers.
4. Screen *is* better, but not enough better that I'd switch on that alone.
5. Rubberized bezel makes gripping a bit better.
6. Double the ram of the NC - will be important in later versions of Android.
7. 16gb storage...CAVEAT: you only get access to 1gb in stock rom. (rooting and CM7 or 8 will of course fix this)
8. It is noticeably lighter when the two are held at the same time.
The device appears to use the exact same charger/cable, and I have used them here interchangeably.
At the end of the day, it is the vastly increased speed that wins me over. Everything is faster from scrolling, to video playback (damn good), to web browsing. That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
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Whoa! Thanks! THAT is what I've been needing someone to go into. Did I say Thanks?!! WaywardPilgrim, Evergreen Colo @7,500 and CHILLY!
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That said, I am *seriously* missing my CM7.
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So root it!!!! lol. Seriously though has anyone checked to see if CWM SD card will still work, if so I'd imagine its filesystem is still the same.
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So root it!!!! lol. Seriously though has anyone checked to see if CWM SD card will still work, if so I'd imagine its filesystem is still the same.
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No, it will not. Different kernel and processor.....
NC vs NC Tablet
I do not have or tried a NC Tablet. It sounds good....but if you want just a GREAT e-reader w/loads of Apps (Google Mkt), both B&N & Kindle, Flash 10.1, access to internet, great screen, ......No money? Buy a referb NC for $100+, then buy a N2A card for $35 and have fun. I bought a NC new for $147 (1 year ago, during one of theirB&B specials, + got 5% off by using a cash back CC, then got a N2A card and i'm in hog heaven.. Even bought my wife a refurb and N2A....same thing. GREAT "E-Reader" w/lots of goodies.
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Does anyone know if the Nook Tablet has Bluetooth?
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It does, but it is not activated on the nook interface.
I think it will be activated once we get a custom ROM for the NT.
My question is:
Does it still boot first from the MicroSD card?
I have no desire to root or run from internal memory any android OS, I absolutely love the un-brickable nature of the Nook Color.
I know off the bat an sd-install isn't happening, but if it boots from sd first there's nothing stopping it from eventually happening.
The un-brickable nature of the sd boot first option is the biggest draw for me, from a developer standpoint it makes a fantastic playground where you can explore whatever you want without consequence.
Having a device with better hardware specs will make development of ICS and forward software much nicer.
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My question is:
Does it still boot first from the MicroSD card?
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Yes, but so far it appears that the bootloader is locked down and will only accept signed images.
It it still very early in the game and only a couple people have poked at the bootloader so far so there is still hope that something can be achieved, but it's definitely a different set of problems than the Color ever had. No one has been able to root it yet either so that doesn't help either. I don't doubt that there are a number of very intelligent and determined people who are interested in the challenge though
Thanks for the quick reply.
That was all I needed to know to put this on my shopping list. Not sure when i'll pick one up, but it's definitely in my sights now.
Sooner or later we'll crack it open, as long as boot first from SD was worked into the model the rest is just a matter of time.
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......No money? Buy a referb NC for $100+, then buy a N2A card for $35 and have fun.....
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Roxors of NC's from B&N are $149 now, plus the $35 for the card you have to order is $184 plus shipping.
You can get a fully rooted NC off Craigs List for $170 all day long. I talked a guy down to $100 because he tried to dump a 3rd party power brick on me. Picked up a B&N brick, (and spare cable), for $27. Put the lame 2G PNY he had in it in my Fuze, put the Fuzes 8 in my phone, put my phones Sandisk 16 class 4 in the NC, made sure 8+1 works and haven't looked back. VV0o7!
The Tablet is now rooted....... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
Rooted Nook vs. Nook Tablet
Hey Guys,
I just bought a new NT Saturday, it's still in the box. I've been reading a few post and I'm not sure but everyone seems to be having more fun with the NC. I went to get the NC originally but I'm a sucker for latest and greatest. I'm still not sure if it was the best choice. And oh yeah, I get one shot at this, the wife says " Make a choice and stick with it." Do you think the NT will receive the same attention as it's older brother. I'm the kind of user that likes my gadgets to do all that they can. Thanks in advance for any replies.
Hi All...
1st time poster on these boards. I have a tremendous amount of respect for all of you, especially the developers who've donated their time and efforts.
I just received my refurb Nook Color (which got the OTA last night to 1.4.2) and I have not done anything to it. Love it so far as a reader. Performance so far is OK but I'm used to my Droid Inc 2 which is very snappy.
I do plan to use CM7 on an SD card (8GB?). I HATE B&N's selection of Apps and hate even more that they're gauging by charging higher prices than the Android Market.
Here's the question: If you had the opportunity to swap the Nook Color for an 8GB Nook Tablet (without having to pay anything extra for the swap) and you were using CM7 (or whatever iteration is out at the time) on both, would you swap? Or would you keep the Color and pass on the Tablet? Why?
If using it as purely an eReader, jump on NT8G is a good decision.
If using it as "hacked" tablet, NT is still at alpha (or pre-alpha) stage for custom ROMs.
everything i've read and seen has pointed to the NookColor as a tablet/e-reader combo and the NookTablet as a simple e-reader with some tablet tendencies.
but as for your question, no...i would keep my NC...the development for it has yet to halt and there is so many things i can do to this device whereas the NT is so limited
Based on the replies...RIGHT NOW, it sounds like keeping the Nook Color is a better way to go rather than swapping it for the Tablet because so far more development has been done on the Nook Color than the Tablet. But from a hardware potential perspective, is the Tablet going to have great longevity and capabilities once the developers here and elsewhere are able to crack it like they have the Nook Color?
Hi fine folks on Xda....surely there are more opinions here. Not that I don't value and appreciate the two posts already on this thread but I sure would appreciate some more opinions, advice before I go forward and make this decision to swap my new NC for a 8GB NT.
I've read through so many of the threads on here and this is my understanding of the current status:
The 8GB Nook Tablet having an improved processor (and some say better screen) has a better overall hardware package than the aging Nook Color BUT the 8GB NT is not fully functional YET by sideloading CM7 while the NC is.
That it sounds like B&N is continually trying to (and suceeding) at limiting the use of the NT (esp the 8GB) for anything more than what they want you to and all within B&N's lame-ass walled city.
That the regular Nook Color is well vetted and thoroughly explored by the smart people here and elsewhere and thus far has greater capabilities as an Android Tablet.
That some of you are hard at work to crack the code here trying to figure out how to sideload the 8GB NT in order to make it as fully funtional an Adroid Tab as the NC. BUT because the NT (even the 8GB version) has better hardware, IF this puzzle gets figured out, it will ultimately be a more capable device than the NC, even if it's just a faster processor and the same amount of RAM.
That at this point, there is no known solution for the 8GB NT and as of now, it's basically just an e-reader.
As I'm new here.....I just don't know enough to know whether or not it's worth the gamble to pick up the 8GB NT because it has greater POTENTIAL to be a better android tab than the NC.
Incidentally, others on the Nook Tablet thread believe I should go with the Nook Tablet b/c of it's potential over the Color so it's interesting to see different opinions here than there.
Do you all more experienced folks believe that a solution is right around the corner?
Please weigh in. Thank you again.
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I am new to the development world and have yet to root/sideload/etc. anything. I have been researching a budget tablet to use and your thread was very helpful, if just a little sparse in info. so far.
I recently bought the 8GB Nook Tablet for $149 from Barnes & Nobles' ebay account. It just arrived yesterday, but I already have buyer remorse because of the research I've done so far. I'm beginning to think a Nook Color may have served my needs just as well (after rooting or using a ROM off a card), and would be cheaper.
Thanks to all those who contributed to this thread so far. OP, your rundown of NC vs 8GB NT was very helpful. It summarizes mostly what I've found so far on the subject.
For the same price, go for the Nook Tablet. It is better hardware and the reports that it is locked down are exaggerated. While it isn't completely unbrickable and as fully developed like the Nook Color it is already capable of being rooted or running bootable SD cards for CM7 (with CM9 in the works).
If you are getting the thing to tinker with, customize and learn how to hack then the Nook Color. Otherwise go for the Nook Tablet root it or throw a bootable CM7 SD card in it and have a faster better tablet.
JP
I have two Nook Colors, both running CM7 from SD card. Just got my son an 8GB tablet last weekend and also running CM7 (alpha final) on it. He seems to be happy with it so far. The only problem I have seen with it was running Pinball Arcade. I have this on my Color and most of the tables work well, but Funhouse (one of my favorite pinball machines) was a little slow and caused it to be hard to follow the ball motion. On the tablet, it was smooth, but both times I tried it the game crashed during play. Hopefully, CM7 development continues and this gets worked out. For the same price, I would probably take my chances on the Tablet. If it doesn't work out, I'm sure you could sell it and get most of your money back out of it.
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
I'm weighing this against the Sony Experia Z tablet, which is roughly twice the price... take away the great screen / price and I'm wondering if the Nook has anything else going for it? Thoughts?
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard). I'd have picked the Google Nexus 7 but no HDMI output kills it off, and the Nexus 10 doesn't seem to be widely available in the UK (I prefer to buy from places with exteneded warranties and the Nexus 10 only seems to be selling directly from Google).
Thanks.
Snoogy said:
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard).
Thanks.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
I did Vellamo HTML5 benchmark with CM10.1 on emmc and scored very impressive score of 1861.
I think I'll use Nexus 7 for my gaming needs (when it's not occupied by my kids) and Nook HD+ for web, movies, and books.
I have a free Kindle Fire HD for HDMI output...(when kids not using it...) The KFHD HDMI cable is cheaper..
But it's much harder to get "stock Android experience" with Kindle Fire HD.
Hope the above info helps.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
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...to add to the above, the build quality is good, appears to be similar to my nook color which has held up very well. The stock rom is usable now that gApps and the play store is on it. The stock rom also has very good battery standby, like in the multiple days range. The negatives are no cameras or GPS but I've never really seen the utility in those if you already have a smart phone. The other negative is that stock rom is pretty customized towards being an E-reader and media consumption device with the B&N store baked into the UI. The big + is the uSD slot for expansion and the ability to boot off it & install CM
I have just got my second Nook HD+ 32GB from Game in the UK for £130 Used with 12 months warranty ( if they last that long Game that is )
Great tablet scores just over 3000 in quadrant the nexus 7 32gb is around 3600.
I have the Google Play store update and I have installed the Free version of the Apex Launcher, that makes it look like stock Android.
Only returned my Brand new one as had charging problem.
its not the fastest at loading web pages but it does work and I feel the screen size @ 9" is very good at Full HD res.
Around 28 GB left on the storage. but MicroSD slot so films etc can go on that. As it still will not allow apps to SD.
Some Popular Games do not install.
But for Web browsering its great and in the UK its only £189 at PC World with a £20 store credit
Games look great films do to.
I have used the N2A and I found it very buggy and slow, I installed in onto a Sd card make and speed they said and it kept slowing right down and hanging for a while.
Just install Apex and you should find it like most other Android Tablets.
CEX in the UK do the 32gb version around 120-145 still with 12 months warranty plus you can trade in too.
For the Money its a Very good by. The closest to it brand new for the money here is a Galaxy tab 2 7, which only has 4gb free memory. to what I payed for it used
Thanks for the info. So, in short, running Android from SD card won't provide smooth performance but installing to emmc (which will void warranty) turns it into a fine android tablet... alternatively, use a launcher app to make the stock rom look more android like (but some apps won't work with the nook os).
Went in store to look at one yesterday and the screen was great, but looking at the 10.1 inch tablets I think I'm going to get one of them instead. Either the Asus Memo Pad, Galaxy Note or Sony Experia. The Asus and Samsung screens are not as sharp but I didn't find the lower pixels per inch to be as obvious as I expected.
Still, the Nook price still makes it a really strong consideration...!
Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
I have had a number of tablets and not all of them can install all apps etc from google play.
I had the tegra 3 based memo 10.1 and the screen is only same res as the nexus 7 and its slower for some strange reason. Mine went back as it would not charge while turned off. As the makers said it should.
But the Nook hd + needs to be on while charging lol.
Like I said the 9" is a nice size to hold and its not that heavy.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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Also gta 3 and vice city do install
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I have a review channel on youtube under atc9000 I can do a nook hd+ review in the next few days if that helps you ?
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Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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I tried a different launcher with stock which helped a bit but still a few annoying things -- library syncing message while playing game, no standard 3 buttons,...,etc. Also system settings are very limited. CM10.1 RC1 and RC2 both ran very well on emmc...for warranty, it is good to have a backup to restore to stock if needed, or an image of stock rom will do.
Gaming performance - per Epic Citadel 3D benchmark it's about 20% FPS reduction from Nexus 7. But to be fair, Nexus 7 has a much lower resolution so it's not completely apple to apple comparison. Unfortunately the FPS is even worse if you lower the resolution on Nook HD+.
So gaming experience is definitely better on N7.
For web browsing I used Vellamo HTML5 benchmark. Stock has almost identical performance as Nexus 7. But with CM10.1, surprisingly out performed Nexus 7 stock by about 40%. Web browsing with CM10.1 works really well actually.
Finally, the deciding factor---#1 is the price. #2, I checked a few 10" tablets at Best Buy including iPad and Transformer Infinity, they are nice but noticeably heavier than Nook HD+. For the primary purpose I want to use a 10" tablet for---web, reading, movies, and light gaming, it is the right one for the right price. So it really depends on the use cases.
One difference using CM10.1 with Nook HD+ vs CM10.1 on a phone is that Nook HD+ has much less functionalities therefore easier to run a custom rom with. On a phone there are so many more functionalities and usually there is always a feature or two that you need to give up or may have issues when running a custom rom. (FM radio, Wi-Fi calling...,etc.)
Of course, that's also thanks to verygreen and other xda developers who did a tremendous job porting CM10.1 to Nook HD+.
Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all of my media as good as my other tablets, Flash plays great and ditto for most games, beyond a few like Asphalt 7 and NFSMW that load unusually super slow (makes no sense, since no others tested seem to be as bad).
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
Snoogy said:
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor.... My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix....
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I'm not quite clear from your post if you want HDMI output for watching Netflix. If so, the video out is great, but, at least running CM10.1 on emmc, there is no audio out on the HDMI. So if you want to watch movies on your home theater system, the only sound you'll get is from the tiny nook speaker. That'll probably get cleared up as the Devs have time to figure it out, but, if you're still considering the nook, I wanted to point that out, since I hadn't seen in mentioned in any of the other replies.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
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TF300 has the same issue, though not as burdened due to half the pixels for the GPU to push. I always thought it was the Tegra 3, but the Excite 7.7 has a Tegra 3 and is not laggy like the TF300 and is very fast. There is a Quake emulator called "Quake Touch" that was released and is great, BTW. The Open GL game plays perfectly & fast on the Excite, S3 and HD+, but is SLOOOOW on the TF300.
There is also a new app called Quake 2 Touch which is also great and works fine on the TF300 as well. The issue though is how the data is pulled for Quake 1. Very old school in that is pulls data bits and pieces. This would stick out on a device with i/o issues.
The HD+ plus though is not out of the woods, since the game loads up in two seconds or less on the Excite and S3, but a little slower on the TF300 and a LOT slower on the HD+. The slow file load issues like Quake 2, Asphalt 7 and NFSMW make no apparent sense. None the less, Quake 1 and 2 play better on the HD+ than the TF300.
Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day Sale
Nook HD+ 16 GB - $149
Nook HD+ 32 GB - $179
Nook HD 8 GB - $129
Nook HD 16 GB - $149
Free shipping on all devices.
shadabt said:
Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day.
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Thanks...I should have waited to save $30. But it has been fun playing with it for a month so time is money.
shadabt said:
Barnes & Noble have started Father's Day Sale
Nook HD+ 16 GB - $149
Nook HD+ 32 GB - $179
Nook HD 8 GB - $129
Nook HD 16 GB - $149
Free shipping on all devices.
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I saw this and started to poke around this forum. Seems like it's a pretty decent little tablet. I'd ask how you folks feel about it but since you're already owners the opinion may be a little biased.
Seems like too good of a deal to pass up!
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Hmmm... Maybe now my wife can have the iPad.
My wife decided to get the HD+ 32GB for me as an early Father's Day present. She was worried that they'd fly off the store shelves at that price.
The tablet updates twice after initial install to get to the latest version. Google Play is an awesome addition, however a lot of the really popular apps already have Nook versions. So if you install the version from the Play store, you'll see two version in the apps menu.
just picked up another 32
Great deal on these.
Just got one Saturday also.. too good of a deal to pass up. enjoying it for the most part so far... i like that google play come with it now.
my only real issue is trying to rearrange items on the screen is terrible! You cant tell when its ready move (like with iPhone/iPad.. they wiggle.. this.. nothing) and its hard to line them up . i have other questions, but will start a new thread
Just heard about this promo. I was going to get a Kindle Paperwhite for Father's day. But, for $10 more (I didn't want to deal with the ads, or hacking it at all, so I was going to get the $139 version) the Nook HD+ seems like a much better value.
I have a HP TouchPad, don't use it as much as I did when I first got it. I have my phone for apps and web browsing. I was going to replace an aging 1st gen Nook I got at a yard sale for $10. My main use is as an eReader. I wasn't looking forward to converting all my epubs to the Kindle format. With Google Play access I don't really even see a need to Root and CM the tablet, but I would need to use the device to make that decision.
Those that have one already, how are they for eReading? I was looking forward to better battery life on the Kindle, because the Nook I have needs to be charged at least once a week whether I use it that week or not. I can put up with that battery life on a tablet that can browse the web, watch videos etc, but as an eReader that has been a pain.
But, for $149, worst case is the kids no longer have to fight over the TouchPad.
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Those that have one already, how are they for eReading?
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That's the best part of this tablet. I feel B&N intentionally downgraded the capabilities of the hardware to make it more a reader and less a tablet.
If you only use it for reading you may be able to tolerate the stock rom. (Though you may get 30%-40% boost on some web browsing with CM10.1) For book reading you can check this review at 7:14 or so (try the HD version of the video--more accurate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtTvNsgJR4I
I use it mainly for reading and web but tried online streaming videos for few minutes(on CM10.1) and they seem to work fine.
Battery life is also very good (was told the deep sleep is a strong feature in stock rom, the feature was later implemented in the CM builds)
I really love the nice screen for reading books and tech manuals. Mobi and epub books work the best. PDF books are good but could be better...
JeauxAdam said:
I saw this and started to poke around this forum. Seems like it's a pretty decent little tablet. I'd ask how you folks feel about it but since you're already owners the opinion may be a little biased.
Seems like too good of a deal to pass up!
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
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Been looking for a tablet to use to transition from iOS development to Android development, so I snapped one up Sunday when I saw the deal. Liked it enough that I picked up another for my daughter today. Will leave her's stock, but mine is running CM10.1 and works great.
Thoughts on Nook HD+ after owning it for 8 hours.
Screen: 9.5/10. 8.9" IPS Panel with 1920x1280 Resolution. Gorgeous screen. Sensitivity does not seem to the best. 10/10
Performance: 7/10. Solid enough with OMAP 4470. Feels lightly sluggish in operation, possibly due to the amount of pixels that needs to be pushed. Someone comment? We all know that OMAP 4430/4460 can push out CM 10.1 flawlessly in many devices. Is it our pixel count or the lack of optimization the builds?
Build/Design: 8/10. Plasticity but refined.
OS: 6/10. CM 10.1 for this device is mature enough, but lacks polish. Stock OS lags to high noon. Might need another few months to work out more kinks.
Value: 9.5/10 at $150. I bought this tablet for the screen and was satisfied.