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So, I'm an android fan and have been thinking about selling my iPad 1 and taking the cash and picking up the Fire. I've played with my co-workers and realize they are supposed to be compared. Was just wondering what you guys think?
You will probably be able to sell your ipad1 for at least 300 dollars. I guess it really depends what you want to do with the tablet. There are Android tablets out there with better specs than the Fire that you could get for 300 dollars, maybe cheaper with holiday sales. However, if you are mainly interested in surfing the web and consuming Amazon content, the Fire is the way to go. It probably meets my needs/wants about 80% of the time.
The main issues I have are that browser is not faster than my other tabs, not much storage space for offline content, and keypresses don't always respond.
Edited to add: lack of bluetooth is also a bummer.
brocja01 said:
So, I'm an android fan and have been thinking about selling my iPad 1 and taking the cash and picking up the Fire. I've played with my co-workers and realize they are supposed to be compared. Was just wondering what you guys think?
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There are plenty of tabs out there that will service you better than the KF. If you get $300 for your iPad1 seriously think about looking around at other options. After using an iPad I truly doubt, in the long run, the KF will satisfy you. More memory, more options, a much better chance at HC or ICS (very much doubt the KF will get either) and overall better android experience. Comparing the iPad (any version) to the KF is not really valid no matter who says so IMO. The only things they really share, IMO, is that they are both serviced by closed gardens.
That said, welcome back from the "Dark Side".
What I wish I could do is have both. But the wife says only one tablet. Just kind of ready something for something new. The majority of what I do is Netflix, Hulu, and web browsing. I'm thinking the fire will do all those things well and hoping the developer community gets behind this and we get some fun roms.
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What I wish I could do is have both. But the wife says only one tablet. Just kind of ready something for something new. The majority of what I do is Netflix, Hulu, and web browsing. I'm thinking the fire will do all those things well and hoping the developer community gets behind this and we get some fun roms.
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I can respect that. But don't buy something mainly because it's "new" and "flashy" or "because everyone is getting it". Get something that is scalable, stands good chance of upgrading and will provide you with a learning milieu that truncated e-readers likely will not.
Just food for thought.
Check out the HTC flyer at Best Buy for $299 and look at forums here. It has much better specs and will run netflix and hulu plus.
Edited to add link: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ga...ablet-dont-forget-the-powerful-htc-flyer/5271
I really like the 7 inch size. The iPad can be too big sometimes.
It all depends on your needs. I for one love my fire. But you have to keep in mind it does have its limitations, aka memory. It has "only" 6.5 Gb of useable storage, personally I feel that is plenty of storage for my needs. I mean I've downloaded a ton of apps and have barely made a dent, but, if you plan on loading up the kindle fire with a ton of music and movies, you may want to think twice, me personallly ill just stream everything. I might load some music on it for a trip, but beyond that I don't see the point. Enough with my storage rant though. I'm really enjoying the kindle fire, I actually have grown to love Amazons custom skin it just makes sense to me, even though at times it can be a little frustrating because of some.minor lag, which I'm sure can be fixed with a software update. But, one thing I enjoy about the interface, is depending on what section you are in, aka books, apps, you can quickly access the store for that content, very User friendly, but if you don't like it then side load go launcher ex and you got an experiance like other android counterparts. And another feature I feel is well done is the search with a quick click of a.button you can choose to search device or web, fantastic. Plus watching Hulu plus on the fire is great, the $199 price tag is really a steal in my opinion.
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I sold my ipad 1 around 2 weeks ago to make a switch to the kindle fire and loving it. The whole experience is much smoother, no more checkboards when I scroll down webpages and having multiple tabs open didnt make the tablet unusable. Though I do kinda miss the app store and itune university. I use my tablet mainly for browsing and reading so the smaller form factor is perfect. Before the kindle fire I thought about switching to the galaxy tab 8.9 its significantly easier to handle than the ipad weight just under a lb. I really liked it but for less than half the cost and comparable specs I took the kindle fire over it
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I really like the 7 inch size. The iPad can be too big sometimes.
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The flyer is 7 inches. I don't have any big problems with Fire, you just might want to check all your 7 inch options before you decide. Of course with the Fire, you can't beat the price.
I sold my 16GB iPad 1 (WiFi) for ~$225 and got a Fire, I couldn't be happier.
I use an ipad2 as a college book and internet lol... if you can justify using it and getting a better experience go for it. I have an android phone so that would be too much android in my life. I'm sticking with the ipad and android together. Makes the one offset the other when one becomes lacking.
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I sold my ipad earlier this year and picked up a nook. I just couldn't stand iOS. Sold the nook and now i have a Fire. I like it a lot, and i'm really tempted to keep it. I have to say I am disappointed with the lack of storage. As far as i am concerned that is the only major drawback, albeit a large one for me as I can at times be without internet for several months at a time. This is primarily when I want a tablet for movies and reading.
As far as its intended function, as an e-reader, it performs quite well. With wi-fi turned off and the brightness at about 80%, i'm seeing an hour for every ten percent down to 15% before I plug it in.
I think it is a great size. For the most part it is quite portable. Its got some heft to it, but it feels right and solid. I'm sure you have read plenty of reviews by now, so no point in me going on about it.
I say bite the bullet and pick one up as it is quite cheap. If u don't like it sell it, i'm sure these things will be sold out for an amount of time some where, at that point you definitely shouldn't have a problem getting your money back. Heck, pick one up locally, most places now have an extended return policy because of the holidays. I've already bought two as gifts for my family when I go to visit them.
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I sold my ipad earlier this year and picked up a nook. I just couldn't stand iOS. Sold the nook and now i have a Fire. I like it a lot, and i'm really tempted to keep it. I have to say I am disappointed with the lack of storage. As far as i am concerned that is the only major drawback, albeit a large one for me as I can at times be without internet for several months at a time. This is primarily when I want a tablet for movies and reading.
As far as its intended function, as an e-reader, it performs quite well. With wi-fi turned off and the brightness at about 80%, i'm seeing an hour for every ten percent down to 15% before I plug it in.
I think it is a great size. For the most part it is quite portable. Its got some heft to it, but it feels right and solid. I'm sure you have read plenty of reviews by now, so no point in me going on about it.
I say bite the bullet and pick one up as it is quite cheap. If u don't like it sell it, i'm sure these things will be sold out for an amount of time some where, at that point you definitely shouldn't have a problem getting your money back. Heck, pick one up locally, most places now have an extended return policy because of the holidays. I've already bought two as gifts for my family when I go to visit them.
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If you have access to usb power source when you are away from internet, you might check out the seagate go flex satellite( 500gb hdd with built in wifi). You can sideload the app and stream media from the drive to your device. The app isn't terrific, but it does work on the fire. The hdd acts as a router and creates a network between it and your device.
Well, my problem has been fixed. I'm keeping the iPad, so the kids and wife can use it and I'll be buying a Fire right around Xmas. Talked the wife into letting me buy one after saving up some money. Thanks all for the recommendations.
I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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Nook = locked bootloader. Not for me.
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It's also $50 more. I like the Gorilla Glass the Kindle has a well. Does the Nook have that?
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Nook = locked bootloader. Not for me.
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The bootloader has been unlocked for a while now
Nook has a microscope so you can duel boot.
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Personally I would go nook tablet. I have a fire because I bought it from some kid on craigslist for 100 dollars. Actually a 50 dollar bestbuy giftcard and 50 cash
This week at Walmart B&M stores only, you can get a Fire with a $50 WM GC, so basically paying $149 for the Fire. The Nook Color is $249 (but there is also a $25 GC if you are a MasterCard holder).
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The bootloader has been unlocked for a while now
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And I still have no interest in it. My Nook Color was great to mess around with but the tablet doesn't do it for me (had one for a week, grew tired of waiting).
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If the bootloader is truly unlocked, then go with the device that has the better Dev support. Check out both forum's and make your choice.
In my opinion the only real downside of the kindle-fire is the way too little 512mb of ram. Apart from that's its a gorgeous device. Its cheap, it feels good in hands, kinda pocket, it will fit in your pocket while the nook is fairly bigger, and it has pretty much the same hw as the nook has, apart from the 500mb of ram more (which is a damn good thing) and the SD slot which is definitely good if you need to increase storage. Although that doesn't really bother me much as 8gb are more than enough for me on a tablet, especially when you can benefit of 2.5gb of drop box, 50gb of box.net along with every other Google cloud services such as picasa, docs, Gmail etc.
Also, the kindle-fire has a better dev support so far, CM7 is way too damn good, we have a pretty stable ICS rom and it's still an early alpha, while the nook only offers an early CM7 alpha (for sure the locked boot loader had significantly slowed down the development).
So my advice is to go cheaper and actually to go for at some points a better device, indeed the kindle-fire
Maybe you are interested in reading some detailed comparison of the two:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/18/kindle-fire-vs-nook-tablet-fight/
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57330571-251/kindle-fire-vs-nook-tablet-how-to-choose/
Having a Fire myself I'm somewhat biased. The fire, quite frankly, is a bit heavy. I don't know how it compares to the Nook, but having played with an iPad2 before, the iPad _seemed_ lighter - maybe that was just my compensating for the larger form factor; the Fire feels like a brick in my hands - too heavy for its size.
But, I purchased it for a cheap tablet to play with Android, so really no major complaints.
And THANKS to all the devs that are working tirelessly to put ICS on the Fire - even as it stands now it looks/works great. Yes, yes, there are a few missing pieces, but I'm quite willing to overlook them for the moment.
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Having a Fire myself I'm somewhat biased. The fire, quite frankly, is a bit heavy. I don't know how it compares to the Nook, but having played with an iPad2 before, the iPad _seemed_ lighter - maybe that was just my compensating for the larger form factor; the Fire feels like a brick in my hands - too heavy for its size.
But, I purchased it for a cheap tablet to play with Android, so really no major complaints.
And THANKS to all the devs that are working tirelessly to put ICS on the Fire - even as it stands now it looks/works great. Yes, yes, there are a few missing pieces, but I'm quite willing to overlook them for the moment.
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I can second that. I actually bought a Nook Tablet first, then returned it and got the Kindle Fire instead. My wife still has a Nook Tablet of her own.
Looking up the specs, the Nook Tablet is only a tiny bit lighter than the Kindle Fire (400 g vs. 413 g), but it is lighter, and larger. It feels much lighter because of the materials they use - it has a nice soft, almost padded edge around the screen, and the screen is set in from the face of the device so you won't accidentally touch it. All in all the Nook is probably a better device for reading or if you value ergonomics highly.
I ended up with the Kindle mainly because I wanted the larger developer community, the lower price, and because I don't need SD card storage. Some people need it, but I don't. I didn't notice any difference in performance so apparently the lower RAM on the Kindle doesn't actually change much.
They're both good though. I think the largest, most important distinctions are the price and the SD card slot. Take those into account before anything else.
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I am looking at buying either one of these. I like the way the kindle fire looks better, but I don't like it's lack of sd card support. They both seem to have good development for rooted users and I plan on rooting. I am leaning towards the Nook, but haven't decided for sure yet. Please offer your opinions and why you would choose one over the other.
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The Kindle Fire is miles ahead in terms of the speed of homebrew development, thanks to its unlocked bootloader. You could root it and install a custom ROM today if you went and purchased it. The locked bootloader on the Nook Tablet slowed development down a lot, but I'd say the developers working on it have done amazing things so far; it shows promise.
My Nook Tablet is running the CM7 alpha that Celtic released a few days ago but the ROM was taken down because Celtic wants a more polished ROM to be available to users. Both have unlocked bootloaders but the Kindle, having been more hack-friendly, already has a full CM7 release and the Ice Cream Sandwhich/CM9 development seems to be going swimmingly as well. The previously-locked bootloader is indeed what slowed down Nook Tablet homebrew devs.
The NT dev community's catching up, but if you're a bit more impatient and want a cool 7-inch Android tablet right away, go with the Fire. If you're more patient and don't mind waiting, the Nook Tablet has better hardware all around and is well worth the $50 more that it costs. It weighs a little less, its battery lasts a little longer, it has double the RAM and expandable micro-SD storage. I'm also told that the screen resists glare better than the Fire's, but I haven't had a chance to play with the Fire much myself so I can't judge that aspect.
tl;dr: If you want a great hacked Android tablet right now, go with the Fire. If you can stand the wait a little longer, go with the Nook Tablet. The Nook Tab devs have been making amazing progress so a release of CM7 is probably not far off (maybe this month!) but like I said, you could have CM7 on a Kindle Fire today.
I looked at both devices before I made my purchase, and price was not a considering factor cause when I went shopping the NT was on sale for the same price as the KF, I just like the look of the KF better, plus I like Kindle as a name, my name being kinda close to it too. That and some of my friends have the KF and they love it, and they told me the Dev section on XDA was ahead of the NT. Support is a major factor for me when I get a device.
My dad has a 200 dollar 'tablet' with a bigger screen and all that, but the support for it is awful. He plays order and chaos online like I do and he can't get it to run on his device, or other gameloft games, where as I have the game on mine.
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Sorry, I meant micro sd. My kindle Auto corrected.
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why get a nook? "a nook can't read so a nook can't cook. so what good to a nook is a hook cook book?" -Dr Seuss
I actually traded my Dell Streak 7 for the Fire and like it, but if I was buying it, I would go with the Nook Tablet. I just got a coupon good till the end of the month for $50 off either a Nook Color OR Nook Tablet (so $149 and $199). Dang tempting, but I gotta quit buying tablets until one comes out that fits all my needs...and honestly, as fun as the Fire is and the Nook probably is...without a front camera for Skype and stylus support, neither will cut my mustard. Also, I've had a Nook Color and I really like the feel of the Fire better. I'm pretty sure the Nook Tablet feels the same as the Color...for what that's worth.
I got the Fire because:
- neither it or the nook is a full featured tablet and the fire is cheaper (nook is too "middle ground" price/features)
- it doesn't weigh more than my hardcover copy of Harry potter 7, and is thinner and much smaller besides
- amazon sold a ton of them and isn't going anywhere, meaning lots of aftermarket support
- my phone and camera make up for the features it lacks; mainly I just wanted browsing, email, and IM without being stuck at my desk or at a wall (with my short-battery-life laptop)
I never do any videoconferencing.
A bluetooth keyboard would've been nice, but for the price I can do without.
Im really in to moddibg and flashing roms onto my inspire 4G and am close to finally getting around to getting an Android tab. After reading countless reviews for $200 it seems the Kindle Fire is by far superior to other competitors around the $200 or less range. I have played with one several times and I'm just not too sure that I like how it moves around between the apps and books and things, I don't plan on reading very much, just an occasional java development book or two because I am just starting, but I prefer the hard copies. So, I like how tabs that aren't as good such as the coby kryos functions, more what I think to be "actual android" like you would find on a android phone or the all-mighty Samsung galaxy tab. I'm thinking about just getting the fire and flashing some custom roms, but are there and solid ones floating around on xda that offer more of an android experience with the fire? And is the fire even really the best choice for around $200? Please reply with your opinions!
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If all you want is a better interface than what the stock experience offers and helps switch between apps, you could just install a different launcher and obtain the same results you would have with a custom ROM. However, if you want to have total control over the overall experience using the tablet, rooting and installing a custom ROM is the way to go.
I've had my Fire for about a month or so, I do like it but miss the screen estate found on larger tablets. I am trying to sell or trade mine in for something else and eventually buy an Asus Transformer or something comparable.
i've been looking at these low cost tablets.. they look pretty amazing for the price:
google ainovo and check them out (can't post links yet)
look in Dev section.
I think its great
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Personally for a sub 200 (USD) tablet I think it's amazing. I was rather cautious buying mine because I had heard some harsh reviews and heard that Fire 2 was right around the corner. So I waited until someone I knew physically had one so I could "test drive" it so to speak. I was really amazed that a lot of the initial bad reviews were solved with the latest software updates. So I bit the bullet and went and got one of my own. Probably the best 200(USD) I have spent of 2012.
For me personally the Pros far outweigh the cons of the system.
Pros:
Lightweight, portable, elegant
Hundreds of hours of reading material
Tinkering gadget (Ability to run CM7 and CM9 for full blown tablet access)
Instant access to internet/news without the need to get out the laptop (2007 style desktop replacement can you say HEAVY)
Built in comic book reader with 1000's of free name brand comics (Ironman, Avengers, Marvel, Vampire Hunter D, Dr. Who)
All within a frame that is about as heavy (if not lighter actually) as a hardback novel.
Cons:
No bluetooth. (Personally I haven't used bluetooth since 2006'ish).
No "external" storage i.e. Sd card reader. (Again personally this is not a problem because between Dropbox, Skydrive, Amazon Cloud, and Google Music I have well over 50 gigs available "on demand" in the cloud. 5 gigs is more than enough for a plane, train, bus commute.)
7 inch screen. (Some people complain and say it's not big enough, but I find the iPad to be too unwieldy and cumbersome for what is basically a glorified e-reader.)
So there you go. Personally like I said I don't think you are going to get much better for under 200(USD). Dual Core, 512mb of ram, 5 gigs of internal storage, 3 gigs for OS and App installs.
Hope this helps
Just got kine this past weekend and put cm7 on it and have it set up to use for work while i am on the road by teathering it to my phone and i love ot it has good power for a cheap tabley and makes my life so much easier while on the road
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The only thing is that the KF does not have an sdcard slot
Yeahh Buddy!! Kindle Fire all the way!!
powerpoint45 said:
The only thing is that the KF does not have an sdcard slot
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Hopefully we will be able to use a USB flash drive soon...
Hmm I have definitely been tempted to get a kindle fire. What's the battery life like on CM9?
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Hmm I have definitely been tempted to get a kindle fire. What's the battery life like on CM9?
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I'm using cm7 for stability and battery life is pleasingly good. Blows my phone away by far.
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For the price point, I don't know that you can really beat this tablet.
Bought mine because I wanted an E-reader for my graduate studies and have been itching to get my hands on an Android Tablet. Development is steady and there are certainly plenty of ROMs to choose from.
My only complaint, like others, is the lack of an SD Card slot. 8gb can go by very quickly but I'll make it work. I think the size is a personal preference. For my tastes, its perfect.
The price is why I bought it. Its awesome is why I keep it.
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After I got my Fire, I actually gave my iPad my niece because I love the 7 inch size (it fits into my larger pockets even) and it is lighter which makes reading in bed easier (read: I've dropped my iPad on my face to often while dozing off).
The price was a big factor at the time, but now that I have it I think it is worth at least $100 more. Amazon has all the content (books, music and movies) of the Apple and Google markets and often will automatically drop prices to match those stores.
One of the biggest pluses is the fact that the dev subforum and this Fire forum in general is one of the most useful and kind in all of XDA (and that's becoming more rare these days). And because the Fire was such a great seller there a lot of active development and cool things to try out.
My only concern at this point is the rumors of a Fire 2 coming sooner than later (and the price should remain the same...if they raise out at all they would kill the success of this original Fire) and the possibility of a Nexus tablet from Google that would be priced similarly (if not cheaper...rumors put it at $150-250). If those rumors are true, it would likely have superior specs and ICS out of the gate. However, it's hard to tell if those rumors are accurate and what the time frame is.
All in all, I love my Fire and have bought two others as gifts and out has been my favorite tablet yet. You probably won't regret the purchase if you take the jump.
Please excuse typos as I'm typing this on my phone
Honestly can't go wrong for the price. If you live with not having the storage space and, can root and install a different rom. Great buy for $200. Craigslist have ones for cheaper.
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Honestly can't go wrong for the price. If you live with not having the storage space and, can root and install a different rom. Great buy for $200. Craigslist have ones for cheaper.
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Once haschode has HWA working properly in ICS for the KFs you definitely cannot beat them for the price.
It feels as zippy as the galaxy tabs I have played with. I am currently running AOKP and it is like a new tablet.
Like many others though the main downfall is the 8gb storage limit.
However, books do not take up that much room, I stream my music from Google Music, and I stream most video. I have watched a movie on there, but I knew I was gonna need one to watch for a couple of hours so I preloaded it and then deleted it after viewing so it was not a big deal.
its a great purchase especially with the wonderful community here.
Great tablet. no issue. with $199, all the short coming can be worked around and lived with it.
if you don't like the way it looks and wants to have total control, just flash it with custom rom and that works great. I have mine running with Energy's rom.
Battery life is great after the custom rom. 7" is great. I stored music on the cloud. For video, just download what is needed and delete afterward.
If anyone is so concerns on Fire2 coming out soon, just get an used one.
Can't beat the price. Hardware keeps up with more expensive tablets and you can accessorize .___. If that's your kind of thing.
I really like mine, and I was adamant about never having a tablet because of lack of a real function (my wife bought this one for me).
I don't mind the lack of space. I don't do movies ever and my music stays on my phone (which has a much nicer DAC).
Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
I'm weighing this against the Sony Experia Z tablet, which is roughly twice the price... take away the great screen / price and I'm wondering if the Nook has anything else going for it? Thoughts?
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard). I'd have picked the Google Nexus 7 but no HDMI output kills it off, and the Nexus 10 doesn't seem to be widely available in the UK (I prefer to buy from places with exteneded warranties and the Nexus 10 only seems to be selling directly from Google).
Thanks.
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Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor. My big concern with the Nook is that it's not going to provide a fast, stable android experience (running from SD card must slow performance?).
My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix, internet, using Evernote and other writing related apps (hence need to output to monitor for lengthy work / use a bluetooth keyboard).
Thanks.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
I did Vellamo HTML5 benchmark with CM10.1 on emmc and scored very impressive score of 1861.
I think I'll use Nexus 7 for my gaming needs (when it's not occupied by my kids) and Nook HD+ for web, movies, and books.
I have a free Kindle Fire HD for HDMI output...(when kids not using it...) The KFHD HDMI cable is cheaper..
But it's much harder to get "stock Android experience" with Kindle Fire HD.
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I am running CM10.1 on emmc and it is fast and 99% stable(no reboots so far but has some minor technical issues like random screen flickering in settings screen which does not always happen.) I would not pay full price for the device. However, if you can get it for around $145 to $179 USD it is hard to beat for the 1920x1280 display and reasonable amount of horsepower. I think for movies and simple apps--reading, writing and web browsing it's perfect. For gaming it is okay but still lag behind Nexus 7. HDMI is available but you need to buy a specialized adapter so it will add to your costs. I tried the CM10 and CM10.1 on an SD card as proof of concept but the web browsing performance sucked....
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...to add to the above, the build quality is good, appears to be similar to my nook color which has held up very well. The stock rom is usable now that gApps and the play store is on it. The stock rom also has very good battery standby, like in the multiple days range. The negatives are no cameras or GPS but I've never really seen the utility in those if you already have a smart phone. The other negative is that stock rom is pretty customized towards being an E-reader and media consumption device with the B&N store baked into the UI. The big + is the uSD slot for expansion and the ability to boot off it & install CM
I have just got my second Nook HD+ 32GB from Game in the UK for £130 Used with 12 months warranty ( if they last that long Game that is )
Great tablet scores just over 3000 in quadrant the nexus 7 32gb is around 3600.
I have the Google Play store update and I have installed the Free version of the Apex Launcher, that makes it look like stock Android.
Only returned my Brand new one as had charging problem.
its not the fastest at loading web pages but it does work and I feel the screen size @ 9" is very good at Full HD res.
Around 28 GB left on the storage. but MicroSD slot so films etc can go on that. As it still will not allow apps to SD.
Some Popular Games do not install.
But for Web browsering its great and in the UK its only £189 at PC World with a £20 store credit
Games look great films do to.
I have used the N2A and I found it very buggy and slow, I installed in onto a Sd card make and speed they said and it kept slowing right down and hanging for a while.
Just install Apex and you should find it like most other Android Tablets.
CEX in the UK do the 32gb version around 120-145 still with 12 months warranty plus you can trade in too.
For the Money its a Very good by. The closest to it brand new for the money here is a Galaxy tab 2 7, which only has 4gb free memory. to what I payed for it used
Thanks for the info. So, in short, running Android from SD card won't provide smooth performance but installing to emmc (which will void warranty) turns it into a fine android tablet... alternatively, use a launcher app to make the stock rom look more android like (but some apps won't work with the nook os).
Went in store to look at one yesterday and the screen was great, but looking at the 10.1 inch tablets I think I'm going to get one of them instead. Either the Asus Memo Pad, Galaxy Note or Sony Experia. The Asus and Samsung screens are not as sharp but I didn't find the lower pixels per inch to be as obvious as I expected.
Still, the Nook price still makes it a really strong consideration...!
Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
I have had a number of tablets and not all of them can install all apps etc from google play.
I had the tegra 3 based memo 10.1 and the screen is only same res as the nexus 7 and its slower for some strange reason. Mine went back as it would not charge while turned off. As the makers said it should.
But the Nook hd + needs to be on while charging lol.
Like I said the 9" is a nice size to hold and its not that heavy.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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Also gta 3 and vice city do install
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I have a review channel on youtube under atc9000 I can do a nook hd+ review in the next few days if that helps you ?
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fantomv50 said:
Now nook has google play and chrome etc in lastest update it is a andriod tablet, the nook default front end not good. But with apex it seem to work better.
But if you want to play high end games then get tegra 3 based tablet.
You cannot go wrong for the money.
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I tried a different launcher with stock which helped a bit but still a few annoying things -- library syncing message while playing game, no standard 3 buttons,...,etc. Also system settings are very limited. CM10.1 RC1 and RC2 both ran very well on emmc...for warranty, it is good to have a backup to restore to stock if needed, or an image of stock rom will do.
Gaming performance - per Epic Citadel 3D benchmark it's about 20% FPS reduction from Nexus 7. But to be fair, Nexus 7 has a much lower resolution so it's not completely apple to apple comparison. Unfortunately the FPS is even worse if you lower the resolution on Nook HD+.
So gaming experience is definitely better on N7.
For web browsing I used Vellamo HTML5 benchmark. Stock has almost identical performance as Nexus 7. But with CM10.1, surprisingly out performed Nexus 7 stock by about 40%. Web browsing with CM10.1 works really well actually.
Finally, the deciding factor---#1 is the price. #2, I checked a few 10" tablets at Best Buy including iPad and Transformer Infinity, they are nice but noticeably heavier than Nook HD+. For the primary purpose I want to use a 10" tablet for---web, reading, movies, and light gaming, it is the right one for the right price. So it really depends on the use cases.
One difference using CM10.1 with Nook HD+ vs CM10.1 on a phone is that Nook HD+ has much less functionalities therefore easier to run a custom rom with. On a phone there are so many more functionalities and usually there is always a feature or two that you need to give up or may have issues when running a custom rom. (FM radio, Wi-Fi calling...,etc.)
Of course, that's also thanks to verygreen and other xda developers who did a tremendous job porting CM10.1 to Nook HD+.
Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all of my media as good as my other tablets, Flash plays great and ditto for most games, beyond a few like Asphalt 7 and NFSMW that load unusually super slow (makes no sense, since no others tested seem to be as bad).
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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Nook HD+ overall rocks for the price. I use it more now than my way more expensive iPad 4.....
Plays all my emulators better than my other tablets and blue tooth gamepads work great as well. IMO, even at $300 this is a better buy than the TF700.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
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Hey,
Been looking into buying a tablet and the rcent price drop is making the Nook HD+ an attactive option. I want a stock android experience though, particularly looking for the functionality of multiple user accounts and HDMI outputing to a monitor.... My usage is mainly going to be watching Netflix....
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I'm not quite clear from your post if you want HDMI output for watching Netflix. If so, the video out is great, but, at least running CM10.1 on emmc, there is no audio out on the HDMI. So if you want to watch movies on your home theater system, the only sound you'll get is from the tiny nook speaker. That'll probably get cleared up as the Devs have time to figure it out, but, if you're still considering the nook, I wanted to point that out, since I hadn't seen in mentioned in any of the other replies.
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tf700 has stronger cpus but it's plagued by poor io. Xda members have reported Nook HD+ having as much as 3x better ios(on emmc) than tf700...Nook HD+ still has minor glitches once in a while(likely hardware related) but can be fixed by turning off and turning on the display.
But I agree it's better than tf700 because tf700 is somewhat buggy to the same extent. And the price is less than half of tf700.
There is just one thing other than the CPU that the tf700 is much better than Nook....that's the availability of official updates.
(less camera and gps which I don't need)
Asus is providing software updates much more often than B&N for sure and will likely continue to do so.
That's another good reason to use CM10.1 because stock almost has 0 possibility of getting even 4.1 update...
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TF300 has the same issue, though not as burdened due to half the pixels for the GPU to push. I always thought it was the Tegra 3, but the Excite 7.7 has a Tegra 3 and is not laggy like the TF300 and is very fast. There is a Quake emulator called "Quake Touch" that was released and is great, BTW. The Open GL game plays perfectly & fast on the Excite, S3 and HD+, but is SLOOOOW on the TF300.
There is also a new app called Quake 2 Touch which is also great and works fine on the TF300 as well. The issue though is how the data is pulled for Quake 1. Very old school in that is pulls data bits and pieces. This would stick out on a device with i/o issues.
The HD+ plus though is not out of the woods, since the game loads up in two seconds or less on the Excite and S3, but a little slower on the TF300 and a LOT slower on the HD+. The slow file load issues like Quake 2, Asphalt 7 and NFSMW make no apparent sense. None the less, Quake 1 and 2 play better on the HD+ than the TF300.
With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
With the HD screen, decent cpu, ability to easily root or run cyanogen mod, for the price I think it's very much worth it.
>My main influence is the aspect ratio
My criteria were aspect ratio, size, and ongoing OS support. Nowaday there are many cheap tabs at close to $100 mark, but they're all 7" 16:10 AR, and most without continuing OS support. Thanks to verygreen and other helpful people here, the Nook HD/HD+ will live on past the B&N era. AFAIK, the Nooks--NC, NT, and HDs--are the only cheap tabs to have official CM support.
But as you mentioned it comes down to your uses. 7" is better for travelling, as well as things like GPS, cams, etc, which the Nook lacks. The HD+ is better if simply for its larger size and res, which are optimal for long-form reading and web browsing.
As for pricing, at some point it becomes petty to harp on the few dollars' difference. Yes, there's a big diff between $500 and $200, but $150-vs-200, not so much. Would you be willing to go across town to buy a 15-penny egg vs a 20-penny one here? Price shouldn't be the end-all. But if it comes to that, my last HD+ was a $120 refurb I bought for my mom, and I'm entirely satisfied with its like-new condition. It probably is new, but marked as refurb for clearance.
In addition to what e.mote already said (which I fully agree with), I think the main thing you have to decide is what you'll be using it for. It all comes down to personal use. Since you said it will be for reading books and mags and occasional browsing, the HD+ is perfect for that. I use it for the same purpose + watching TV with Dish Anywhere around the house + streaming movies / shows from my PC with Plex for Android. On the other hand, if you're going to be doing CPU/GPU intensive stuff like gaming, get the new Nexus 7. I got my HD+ for $120 @ Staples and that was too good to pass up and don't regret the purchase at all, especially with official CM support.
I paid $ 180 for my HD+ and am very satisfied with it.
Watching movies I encoded, browsing web, checking email, playing
the latest games...it does it all quite well.
I have seen as low as $120 refurbished units from B&N which is pretty good. I bought mine at $149 and I have no regret even with all the crazy deals popping up later.
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With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
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e.mote is spot on, but as for my $0.02 I am very happy with my nook HD+. It's my first tablet and I love the high resolution screen and it's plenty portable. I'm using it to watch my favorite tv shows from anywhere I happen to be and I love it! Not to mention that due to a shoulder injury I have been limited on how much I can sit at a computer and work, but with the tablet I can use it for hours without aggravating it. It is well worth the money in my mind.
aGoGo said:
With the price going down to 149$ is this a good buy?
My main use is reading books, magazines and occasional browsing with flipboard and pocket.
My main influence is the aspect ratio, since it's more suitable for magazines compared to other android tablets. not to mention the screen size for such price.
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I have a Nook Tablet. Still love it. The 7" format fits for my uses. Never the less. The HD+ is the biggest bang for the buck. Good engineering. It is quality. I read a lot and the HD+ 9" format is a big improvement. I watch Netflix on occasion and with this tablet it is big enough to enjoy a video without having to use glasses.
It will always be a good (great?) portable media player. That's how I would view the HD+. Gorgeous screen, solid sound via headphones. Other tablets are going to have more cores and features and higher AnTuTu scores but this is a 1920x1280 IPS with 32GB on board for a low price. AND we're in Cyanogen builds -- support for the foreseeable future. That's a huge plus that everyone doesn't have.
I have an Acer a500 that is in a bad place and began looking for a tablet to replace it. Started out with a 7" 32GB Nexus v.1, but service plan and all was $248.00 - and right now we can't afford it. Read some more and the Nook HD+ really began to catch my eye...but again at that time, felt it was too much and took it back. Tried refurbed Acer A100 and it was AWFUL due to my high degree of near-sightedness. Took it back and went back to B&N and repurchased Nook HD+ with 16GB storage. As files are now accessible from cloud or google drive, and Nook has SD card slot, storage is not a huge issue.
Reason? I missed that 9" HD display for reading and web browsing, I'm not a huge B&N fan, but man did the HD+ sell me...and at $150, it's a definite steal. Seriously thinking about saving up enough money to buy a second one before too long, just to have to tiinker with.
think there might be a $20 gift card too if from b&N
Howdy,
Is the $20 gift card thing new? I bought mine in person a couple of weeks ago at a b&n and there was no gift card advertized or involved...
It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
I was going to post this, and also I'm ordering. Just spotted this about 3 hours ago.
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It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
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It's only $109 with free shipping for the next 2+ hours at http://1saleaday.com/main/
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I grabbed one from this deal too.
Wonder when we'll get them?
First shipment estimated to leave on
Thursday, September 12th, 2013
Orders usually ship within 7-10 business days
Under limited circumstances, up to 30 days
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When my Nexus 7 (2012) and HD+ are both available I consistently pick up the HD+ for the vast majority of uses. The screen size of the HD+ makes standard websites much easier to read, allow for more ebook content on the screen, and make it better for watching videos. In addition the sound of the HD+ is much better than the Nexus 7's. The Nook's negatives are that it is heavier and not as comfortable to hold but those are trade offs I'm happy to accept for the increased screen size. For my uses I don't notice much of a difference in speed.
Another thing to consider is the Nook's ability to run a custom ROM from an SD card without modifying the tablet's internal software. I'm running CyanogenMod 10.2 (the 4.3 version of Jellybean.) It's not perfect and has occasional problems including random reboots, but so does my Nexus 7 (to a lesser extent) when running stock software.
Overall after 4 months of ownership of the HD+ and 12 months with the Nexus 7, I think the Nook HD+ is well worth the $150 price even if it's being discontinued.
I have heard that the nook will be discontinued and that new versions will be released at the end of the year, I don't know which is true. Still a good device for the money. What makes this a great device are the smart people on this forum, verygreen especially (hat tip to you) and cross pollinators from other similar devices. It gets better with every release.
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New Nook from 1SaleaDay has arrived
My 16GB Nook HD+ from 1Sale-a-Day arrived yesterday in pristine condition (likely completely unused, but refurbished in original box and with a warranty). I opened it up and went thru registration, and it immediately updated to 2.0.6. I added a few apps and then checked the software update button and it then updated to 2.1.1. Finally, I backed up, rooted, and added extras from Leapinar's thread. This was a little tricky and seemed to not work until I pushed in on the microSD while booting. That worked! I now have a perfectly functional Nook HD+ !! I love the great features, especially the screen resolution, and it is much more nimble than my old HP Touchpad. Overall I am VERY satisfied.
You got yours already?
Mine hasn't even shipped.
I did snag a groovy case for it on ebay for $18
The Nook HD+ is a bargain. I've owned the HP Touchpad and now after upgrading to the Nook HD+, I couldn't be happier.